Casino workers forced into unpaid leave

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~ The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

What's weird about that? Those who worked with them for a short period of time were probably forced to resign and not a forced leave.

thats not weird but that is an example of unprofessionalism . professional company will value workers that are already working for them for too long or to those that are already regular employees .

 when regular employees leaved or resign they can get a seperation pay and that amount can be huge depending on how long you have been working on the company . forcing to resign is simillar to being forced to leaved but both of them shouldnt be done for employees if they are working properly .

Easy for you to say that what they did is unprofessional because you are still thinking these casinos are operating under "normal" conditions but they are obviously not. I'm just gonna leave it at that. Think of the things you'll do when you are in a losing business because of a special condition like this pandemic.

~ But they could've at least be a bit humane about it. These people they forced to unpaid leaves have mpuths to feed, and most probably would not have much power in theur hands to find a new job right away especially given the fact that the skills required for you to work in a casino don't usually cope well with skills required in other fields, a stipend of some sort can alleviate their employee's problem first and foremost.

Why did you assume they were inhumane? Did you not read their proposals to the Government to help out? Like I said, these businesses are trying to survive too. It would be easy for them to go the easier route which is to completely seize operation after months operating at a loss.

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[lienfaye]

Nowadays that there's an ongoing pandemic its not new anymore.
Casinos and other companies are still struggling to survive, the virus is still existing therefore people are not allowed or has a restriction when going out.

So we're not yet back to normal thus this kind of situation is already expected. It seems unfair but we cant do anything about it, they need to operate with less employess to somehow recover their losses and to not end up closing down permanently.

[Pamadar]

Nowadays that there's an ongoing pandemic its not new anymore.
Casinos and other companies are still struggling to survive, the virus is still existing therefore people are not allowed or has a restriction when going out.

So we're not yet back to normal thus this kind of situation is already expected. It seems unfair but we cant do anything about it, they need to operate with less employess to somehow recover their losses and to not end up closing down permanently.

Even there are establishments who are now operating the threat of this pandemic still exist.

Casinos are not exempt so in order to continue and survive they needed to do things like this, not just with this business but everything needs to face this new normal settings, There's no way for the operator to continue paying those people as customers are not being met for the whole operation expenses.

We  are not totally back in a normal that we really knew, it will take much longer as vaccines is not yet available.

[maydna]

The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too. If we are still at the pandemic, and the government is hard to control their economy, they will not regulate the unpaid leave because that can make the business owner feel difficult to pay their employees. It happens to all businesses with many employees because many businesses have suffered in this pandemic. But many are trying to survive.

[Fundamentals Of]

The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too.

If you are referring to this as normal even if there is no pandemic, I don't agree with you. I am not familiar with the labor laws of Macau but it is probably not allowed to just fire old employees without giving any payment for the sake of new employees with a lower salary.

Casinos can force them to quit working for the casino but only under valid grounds. They cannot just tell an employee that he is done with his job and that he will not be paid anymore.

[Lorence.xD]

The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too. If we are still at the pandemic, and the government is hard to control their economy, they will not regulate the unpaid leave because that can make the business owner feel difficult to pay their employees. It happens to all businesses with many employees because many businesses have suffered in this pandemic. But many are trying to survive.

That is what businesses has been for a long time, it is not exclusive to casinos. If this was around the pandemic peak, this will raise some eyebrows but they pulled this off in a struggle phase which means this could be a problem for the businesses. This sounds scummy because revenues in casinos are still high which means more takeaway for the owner.

[Genemind]

The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too.

If you are referring to this as normal even if there is no pandemic, I don't agree with you. I am not familiar with the labor laws of Macau but it is probably not allowed to just fire old employees without giving any payment for the sake of new employees with a lower salary.

Casinos can force them to quit working for the casino but only under valid grounds. They cannot just tell an employee that he is done with his job and that he will not be paid anymore.

It's hard to comment on this since Macau might have a different labor law than other countries. But looking at it, it seems unfair to the old employees to be forced to quit and be replaced for a new one with lower pay. We understand that businesses are striving to survive, but employees should be compensated well amidst pandemic, if your business cannot afford to give what is right for the employees the business might close as well.

Anyway, workers can file a complaint at their labor department if they think the casino had violated and labor code. Same as businesses each of us are striving to make a living.

[shoreno]

The casino can force its old employee without giving any payment to recruit new employees with a small salary. It is normal to see that it happens, and perhaps, that is not just happening in Macau, but in the other place, that happens too.

If you are referring to this as normal even if there is no pandemic, I don't agree with you. I am not familiar with the labor laws of Macau but it is probably not allowed to just fire old employees without giving any payment for the sake of new employees with a lower salary.

Casinos can force them to quit working for the casino but only under valid grounds. They cannot just tell an employee that he is done with his job and that he will not be paid anymore.

It's hard to comment on this since Macau might have a different labor law than other countries. But looking at it, it seems unfair to the old employees to be forced to quit and be replaced for a new one with lower pay. We understand that businesses are striving to survive, but employees should be compensated well amidst pandemic, if your business cannot afford to give what is right for the employees the business might close as well.

Anyway, workers can file a complaint at their labor department if they think the casino had violated and labor code. Same as businesses each of us are striving to make a living.

if they think thier business is having a hard time why will they still continue but why not if they take a rest for a period of time  , pay all the employees including the newer ones but they must pay a little large for the older ones to make it fair . whenever they open up again its up to them if they replaced new employees or not but older employees must be kept because they are already more trusted and are already part of the company for a long time . if they decide to keep the business running , they can released the newer employees and kept the old employees but with a cut in payment if the company is really suffering . employees will understand it

[Ucy]

I guess the government depends more on visitors from other countries for the revenue earned from casinos?
Well, I wish government could focus more on having good/safe gaming or casino businesses than focusing on their continuous revenue growth. The focus on having casinos or gaming industry earn huge revenues for countries is probably why they don't impose good standards on lots of them

[Vaculin]

This is not illegal, business can't give people a paid leave when the business is not making money as usual.

The economy has been struggling due to the pandemic, so with what is happening, its not wise to stick again in an industry that is not making good revenue anymore, if they will switch job and they can find it, why not find a new one, but we can also understand that the loyalty is there and this pandemic is not permanent so they also don't want to lose their permanent job that could give them a good benefit and assurance once the operation is back to normal.

[Renampun]

Not only casino workers are suffering from this kind of change.
There are other businesses that are forced to implement this strategy to their employees in order to survive.
For the employees that will experience this kind of change, just be understanding that this is really going to happen.
Look for other alternative jobs while on leave. Employers can't really pay their workers if they are not earning income.

trying to find alternative work is what the worker has to do...
laying off employees without pay is a classic excuse for business owners in this time of the outbreak. my husband just quit his job because the place where he worked was very quiet and had no income. I hope the workers who are terminated without pay by the casino in Macau can find another job they deserve.

[swogerino]

This is not illegal, business can't give people a paid leave when the business is not making money as usual.

The economy has been struggling due to the pandemic, so with what is happening, its not wise to stick again in an industry that is not making good revenue anymore, if they will switch job and they can find it, why not find a new one, but we can also understand that the loyalty is there and this pandemic is not permanent so they also don't want to lose their permanent job that could give them a good benefit and assurance once the operation is back to normal.

I think all companies have cut costs because of the pandemic and places like Macau which rely almost 100% on tourists who go there only for gambling,are facing hard times now that most of international flights have stopped because of a reemerging second wave of the novel Corona virus.I am sorry for the casino workers but they are no different from other workers who have lost their jobs.

[angrybirdy]

There is nothing wrong or weird with what they are doing. It is called cost cutting. They are not capable of paying their employees because of our current situation so they don't have any other choice but to do that. In any part of the world is doing the same thing to avoid more losses, it is not new in the business industry, even casino has been doing it to save their business for their own future.

[sotoshihero]

Nowadays that there's an ongoing pandemic its not new anymore.
Casinos and other companies are still struggling to survive, the virus is still existing therefore people are not allowed or has a restriction when going out.

So we're not yet back to normal thus this kind of situation is already expected. It seems unfair but we cant do anything about it, they need to operate with less employess to somehow recover their losses and to not end up closing down permanently.

I though so, many are being retrenched because of this pandemic. Many people I know  that their company are closed  and did not know when too open as the management instructed just find another job for the meantime.  I pity those  casino employee who are forced to leave and hoping this pandemic will end and to start a fresh beginning to all of us.

[Mauser]

The Macau gaming enterprise have reported that more than 60% of the Workers working in casinos have been Forced to take Unpaid leave.

The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.

Now the steps taken  to tackle that :

That is really sad to read. I mean most companies have the same problem during the corona pandemic. Sales are bad and the companies might even need to close down their business due to the lockdown. But not paying their employee is wrong in my opinion. There will be a time after the pandemic and we need qualified employees than again. Everyone is hurting right now and it would be best if we spread the problems.

[fortunecrypto]

The Macau gaming enterprise have reported that more than 60% of the Workers working in casinos have been Forced to take Unpaid leave.

The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.

In this scenario, we can conclude that the gambling industry in Macau is suffering, unfortunately, the workers are the one badly hit, the management can opt for dialogue and reach a compromise as they urge their workers to accept the decision of forced unpaid leaves while the industry is suffering from the pandemic, when the industry recovers, they can give their workers who help them in times of crisis with additional bonuses when they recover.
This pandemic will not last and good dialogue is what the two-party needs to smooth things out.

[cabron]

I thought the Asian countries are doing good than the westerners in dealing with the virus, the news seems to tell us that Asian countries are doing better and are almost back to normal like how the Chinese are going it.

The new normal really isn't normal at all. Though the virus are very much controlled in their area, the people are still very cautious that they are still not going back to casino like they use to.

[Oasisman]

I thought the Asian countries are doing good than the westerners in dealing with the virus, the news seems to tell us that Asian countries are doing better and are almost back to normal like how the Chinese are going it.

The new normal really isn't normal at all. Though the virus are very much controlled in their area, the people are still very cautious that they are still not going back to casino like they use to.

Well, you just answered your own statement.
Though the virus has been under controlled along this area, but that doesn't mean every businesses has bounced back after a devastating economic crash. Macau has been knowned as the Las Vegas of Asia and are expecting to cater a lot of foreign clients every single day. Without these foreign clients, the casino cannot contain the payroll If all the staff are in full operation.
The casino cannot be blamed here If these employees has been force to have "leave with no pay" . This scenario should be consulted to the government to assist these employees financially.

[avikz]

That's everywhere and not just in casino industry. Travel & hospitality industry has taken a big hit due to covid so majority of the companies in this field have either fired a majority of their workforce or sent them to unpaid leave. So there's no surprise at all!

~ The weird thing was : If the Worker have worked for too long the casinos takes them for granted and they are more likely to loose their payment.

That's a normal mindset of any company and again not just from the casino industry! There's no surprise either! Also people need to understand that staying with the same company hinders their growth potential. In corporate, loyalty is a fugazi that doesn't exist!

[bitbunnny]

I thought the Asian countries are doing good than the westerners in dealing with the virus, the news seems to tell us that Asian countries are doing better and are almost back to normal like how the Chinese are going it.

The new normal really isn't normal at all. Though the virus are very much controlled in their area, the people are still very cautious that they are still not going back to casino like they use to.

Well, you just answered your own statement.
Though the virus has been under controlled along this area, but that doesn't mean every businesses has bounced back after a devastating economic crash. Macau has been knowned as the Las Vegas of Asia and are expecting to cater a lot of foreign clients every single day. Without these foreign clients, the casino cannot contain the payroll If all the staff are in full operation.
The casino cannot be blamed here If these employees has been force to have "leave with no pay" . This scenario should be consulted to the government to assist these employees financially.

That is true, many businesses didn't recover or are still in slow and painful surviving process. That also depends from country to country, in some governments introduced some measurers to help to recover the economy but not equal to all businesses. Unfortunately,  I think that gambling industry is among those who didn't receive much help and government support.
It's not a wonder that workers found themselves in such difficult situation but it's also up to owners to decide how to deal with that. Is it their priority to keep their own economy standard or keep workers at job and help them to survive.