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June 06, 2014, 10:07:16 AM
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when are the stats of which merchants are accepting the coin from phase I going to appear?

as a member of the Israeli Bitcoin community I'm sad to tell you that nobody accept Isracoin because everybody in Israel understood after a week that its a Scam.
And there is one guy that is not from Israel the succeded to fool some good people from our coummunity in the first week of the coin so they did some good PR for him.
I'm not happy to tell you guys that its a scam but I better be honest with you. You should find a good and honest project to support and not a scam.
Isracoin appeared to be a Scam! its not an Israeli project nor Israeli coin!
You seem to be repeating yourself. Just put up some proof or stop.
Since you know everything and so smart,
then give us a clue what to do Smiley
If you are not trading/collecting/digging Isracoin why are you here and be so negative.
Looks to me that you have an agenda here.
Get life my friend and leave us alone  

I told you my agenda
1. this shity coin gives a bad name to Israel and it have no connection to Israel anymore, and since I'm Israeli its important for me that everybody will know it.
3. Everybody in Israel knows that this coin is a scam and there was long discussion about it in the Israeli bitcoin community.
4. And I have something good for you not just bad news Smiley
there is a group that is working on a real Isaeli coin and they said it will
be possible to excange Isracoin for this coin that will be call IsraBit when it will be released.
but only coins that are not from the scammy premine and only coins that was mined by the public will be exchanged so don't buy this coin but hold what you have. 
I hope there will be good news soon Smiley
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June 06, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
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israeli ........ explain me this please..:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TyPtsap9Bo&hl=en&cc_lang_pref=en&cc=1

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June 06, 2014, 11:37:08 AM
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israeli ........ explain me this please..:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TyPtsap9Bo&hl=en&cc_lang_pref=en&cc=1

Thanks

this are 2 of the Israeli group that was part of the project and left about 2 month ago after they understood that Isracoin is a scam
they did an exelent PR for a week, but then they said publicly that its an unreliable coin.
there was a big discussion about it in the Israeli bitcoin community
and some well known members even tried to help without success since there is nobody from this project that lives in Israel.
you can see all this story in the graph, this is why Isracoin lost it popularity in Israel.
https://coinmarketcap.com/isr_90.html
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June 06, 2014, 12:43:50 PM
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Guys, Just an update, while you're battling with trolls, we are inundated with registrations and questions and requests and emails and bugs and so on and so on, hence why we are quiet. several bugs have been fixed and things seem to be going smoothly with the verifications of users. people are very positive about the project and we received some nice press coverage as well and more is expected next week.

We will update more here as soon as we can come up for some air Smiley

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June 06, 2014, 01:11:03 PM
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Guys, Just an update, while you're battling with trolls, we are inundated with registrations and questions and requests and emails and bugs and so on and so on, hence why we are quiet. several bugs have been fixed and things seem to be going smoothly with the verifications of users. people are very positive about the project and we received some nice press coverage as well and more is expected next week.

We will update more here as soon as we can come up for some air Smiley
your success is mine too,
I believe in isracoin and my computer was working hard since it's introduction.
BUT
The registration for the airdrop using Facebook is a joke, even my grandchild can get 100s verifications
and it also kills the anonymity - IRS, Mas-Hachnasa, CIA, NSA....
I'm happy with my 38 friends in Facebook and do not wish to share my wall with 2.8 Israelites Smiley
What guaranty can you provide to secure our info submitted to you?
 
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June 06, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
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Guys, Just an update, while you're battling with trolls, we are inundated with registrations and questions and requests and emails and bugs and so on and so on, hence why we are quiet. several bugs have been fixed and things seem to be going smoothly with the verifications of users. people are very positive about the project and we received some nice press coverage as well and more is expected next week.

We will update more here as soon as we can come up for some air Smiley

can you post some stats on the website? who's accepting, how many companies are accepting, etc.
thanks
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June 06, 2014, 04:21:46 PM
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Guys, Just an update, while you're battling with trolls, we are inundated with registrations and questions and requests and emails and bugs and so on and so on, hence why we are quiet. several bugs have been fixed and things seem to be going smoothly with the verifications of users. people are very positive about the project and we received some nice press coverage as well and more is expected next week.

We will update more here as soon as we can come up for some air Smiley

can you post some stats on the website? who's accepting, how many companies are accepting, etc.
thanks

@Y80: very good suggest.
@IsaelCoin: Can you show it?
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June 06, 2014, 05:15:07 PM
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Quote from: farfiman
Yes , using facebook is a very sad choice if it's the only choice.
no it's not. the site says there'll be more options available. I vote for sending a photo of face next to the ID. A bit rough but simple and a great alternative to Facebook or LinkedIn.

I also vote for completely deleting all data other than an ID hash after the month passes and all ISR have been sent to that person. SECURITY IS VERY IMPORTANT!!
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June 06, 2014, 05:39:49 PM
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I told you my agenda
1. this shity coin gives a bad name to Israel and it have no connection to Israel anymore, and since I'm Israeli its important for me that everybody will know it.
a true altruist who cares for me without profit will not use such dirty language on ANYONE! you know what, you're full of your own crap and now I know why:

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4. And I have something good for you not just bad news Smiley
there is a group that is working on a real Isaeli coin and they said it will
be possible to excange Isracoin for this coin that will be call IsraBit when it will be released.
YOUR coin is a scam! it's so obvious it hurts! even how you claim you, without any reward, will replace my isracoin with your scam-coin Smiley Look, kiddo, here's a bit of very important advice I learned through the years, if you truly believe in something and honestly want to help others selflessly, you will never use bad language. why? because you wont need to. the actions and facts will speak for themselves
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June 06, 2014, 10:32:55 PM
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OK, maybe Israbit is not a scam in the acceptable meaning of that word.

Anyone interested in what's happening behind the scenes here should google translate this article: http://www.themarker.com/wallstreet/1.2341445

I'll give a jist:

Dan is a great experienced Israeli engineer living in NY (according from Dan's facebook account and just the amount of work her put into Isracoin). Dan starts working on the infrastucture for Isracoin (Israeli first cryptocoin). Amnon joins Dan from Israel to help him. Amnon represents a very powerful semi-anarchistic and socialist political movement called Zedek Chevrati.

Amnon asks Dan to give him and his friend full access to premined millions of coins. Dan refuses I'm guessing because of lack of trust. Amnon gets angry, starts spreading rumours about Dan (if not Amnon, then who?) and without actually waiting to see if Dan is indeed a scammer, or not, decides to create his own Israeli cryptocoin called Israbit which can be done HIS way.

To anyone non-Israeli amused by this turn of events, let me tell you that this is actually standard behavior I've been seeing for many years between supposed intellectual adults.

Personally I'm behind the person who didn't start badmouthing and spreading rumours about the other person when he didn't get what he wanted...

Personally I'm much more the sit-respectfully-and-do-your-job kind of guy.
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June 06, 2014, 11:15:30 PM
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Very interesting read pornofish thanks for the link, I stand with Isracoin in this craziness it is kind of amusing watching all the haters.
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June 06, 2014, 11:32:40 PM
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Very interesting read pornofish thanks for the link, I stand with Isracoin in this craziness it is kind of amusing watching all the haters.

Again: List of companies accepting Isracoin = ?
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June 07, 2014, 12:00:46 AM
Last edit: June 07, 2014, 07:26:57 AM by israeli
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Very interesting read pornofish thanks for the link, I stand with Isracoin in this craziness it is kind of amusing watching all the haters.

Again: List of companies accepting Isracoin = ?

There are no companies Cheesy 100%
everybody in Israel knows that its a scam coin
BTW The guy you mention is not the issue, although he is well known in the community its nothing personal as you tried to say, there were 6 people from the community that started that coin, non of them support the coin anymore!
Its also about all the Israeli bitcoin community, if you name one member that didn't understand already that this coin is a scam I'm taking my words back.
its just easy to fool you as long as you fooling yourself! at least some of you.
BTW Mr. Meni Rosenfeld the chairman of the Israeli bitcoin community is interviewed in the article you mentioned, listen to what he says
you can google translate it.
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June 07, 2014, 04:56:19 AM
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you can buy bitcoins with isracoin .. Wink

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June 07, 2014, 06:55:56 AM
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BTW Mr. Meni Rosenfeld the chairman of the Israeli bitcoin community is interviewed in the article you mentioned, listen to what he says
you can google translate it.

He explained what a multisig wallet is.
He  said that compared to bitcoin . Isracoin is too centralized .
He isn't optimistic about Isracoin.
Some of the developers are not interested in it anymore.

That's all he said in the article.


"We are just fools. We insanely believe that we can replace one politician with another and something will really change. The ONLY possible way to achieve change is to change the very system of how government functions. Until we are prepared to do that, suck it up for your future belongs to the madness and corruption of politicians."
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June 07, 2014, 08:07:31 AM
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BTW Mr. Meni Rosenfeld the chairman of the Israeli bitcoin community is interviewed in the article you mentioned, listen to what he says
you can google translate it.

He explained what a multisig wallet is.
He  said that compared to bitcoin . Isracoin is too centralized .
He isn't optimistic about Isracoin.
Some of the developers are not interested in it anymore.

That's all he said in the article.




Yes,... UP and DOWN... like everything in life.....  my suggestion is, WAIT .... and give the coin a chance and time ...
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June 07, 2014, 08:50:44 AM
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The way I see it, the smart argument is not even between the main developer is a scammer or not. It's obvious he's not: no scammer will ever put so much time and effort to develop all the software and technology behind a scam. If I was a scammer I'd just quickly give coins away, quickly hype up the unaware public and sell million as soon as the first spike starts building up. Done. I'm rich. See ya all later.

The (non-trolling, smart) argument is whether the dev has a POTENTIAL to scam through the current, temporary, centralisation. Yes he does. In that way you could say he's like a bank CEO, granted. At the moment: he did express desire to decentralise and, to be honest, I'd rather trust an engineer and a fellow nerd who knows what it's like to work for everyone's benefit rather than a spoiled bank CEO whose only job is to keep rich people rich.
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June 07, 2014, 10:26:45 AM
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The way I see it, the smart argument is not even between the main developer is a scammer or not. It's obvious he's not: no scammer will ever put so much time and effort to develop all the software and technology behind a scam. If I was a scammer I'd just quickly give coins away, quickly hype up the unaware public and sell million as soon as the first spike starts building up. Done. I'm rich. See ya all later.

The (non-trolling, smart) argument is whether the dev has a POTENTIAL to scam through the current, temporary, centralisation. Yes he does. In that way you could say he's like a bank CEO, granted. At the moment: he did express desire to decentralise and, to be honest, I'd rather trust an engineer and a fellow nerd who knows what it's like to work for everyone's benefit rather than a spoiled bank CEO whose only job is to keep rich people rich.

sorry but again this is not the main issue, the main issue is the misleading of the Israeli bitcoin community after the 6 founders (most of them from the Israeli bitcoin community) together agreed to make a multi sig and than after a month Dan refuses and lost the trust of the team.
but this was long ago, its a real shame that nobody let you guys know.
the other problem is by misleading you guys by not telling you that the second phase was a colossal fail and no firm accepted Isracoin.
the thing you should ask yourself is why didn't  you know about all that and thought that everything is ok when most of the Isracoin team and the Israeli community have long left the ship.
the american guy behave and try to treat the public and the community like an asshole.
the problem is distrust in the guy that hold now the 400M coins, this is the reason that there will probably be a true Israeli coin soon.
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June 07, 2014, 10:44:11 AM
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The way I see it, the smart argument is not even between the main developer is a scammer or not. It's obvious he's not: no scammer will ever put so much time and effort to develop all the software and technology behind a scam. If I was a scammer I'd just quickly give coins away, quickly hype up the unaware public and sell million as soon as the first spike starts building up. Done. I'm rich. See ya all later.

The (non-trolling, smart) argument is whether the dev has a POTENTIAL to scam through the current, temporary, centralisation. Yes he does. In that way you could say he's like a bank CEO, granted. At the moment: he did express desire to decentralise and, to be honest, I'd rather trust an engineer and a fellow nerd who knows what it's like to work for everyone's benefit rather than a spoiled bank CEO whose only job is to keep rich people rich.

sorry but again this is not the main issue, the main issue is the misleading of the Israeli bitcoin community after the 6 founders (most of them from the Israeli bitcoin community) together agreed to make a multi sig and than after a month Dan refuses and lost the trust of the team.
but this was long ago, its a real shame that nobody let you guys know.
the other problem is by misleading you guys by not telling you that the second phase was a colossal fail and no firm accepted Isracoin.
the thing you should ask yourself is why didn't  you know about all that and thought that everything is ok when most of the Isracoin team and the Israeli community have long left the ship.
the american guy behave and try to treat the public and the community like an asshole.
the problem is distrust in the guy that hold now the 400M coins, this is the reason that there will probably be a true Israeli coin soon.

I'm listening, what else can you tell us?
And what about the promise of exchanging (for free) israbit for istacoin?
If there are plans to kick in a new israeli coin, then why is it so secretive?
If it is all true, it should be in the open and not just bits and pieces here and there...
Let them (israbit) open a web site and spread their manifest and agenda.
As a side-note, if you want to convey your message, you should change the tone of your voice.
You sound more like a rebel than a businessman - that may be a helpful advice to you.      
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June 07, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
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Probably a good time to state some FACTS:

First off, those "founders" being referred to are a couple of guys, one of which left partly because of personal issues in his life that prevented him from putting any time into the project (to the point where we couldn't even get him on phone calls). The other guy, Amnon, who is most likely the one hiding behind this freshly made user account, did not do practically anything for the project, other than take a few interviews in the media, which is what we needed him for. After he did those, he essentially did mostly nothing (maybe introduce a few people he knew, helped find a tax attorney etc, which was great, yet with all due respect, that is tantamount to almost nothing compared to the insane amount of work other members have put in the past 4 months).

Furthermore, this character also demanded a TON of money be paid to him for his future work and past "work", demanded we put a lot of power in his hands, demanded we sign "napkin" agreements with him and all sorts of other things, while REFUSING to do his work until we did so. This is why our media did not go out, because this guy who was supposed to do it, screwed us over. We are working to rebuild what he has ruined and will make it happen without him.

As for a multisig - we have already implemented brand new code in the 1.7 Alpha wallet that should make it possible to do a broad multisig (as you know, multisigs are now limited to 3 signatures which is very problematic for this kind of project) - This is why there is now a an 8 person Board of Directors to the project and as soon as the new wallet comes out with the multisig code that allows us a broader solution, those directors will be made custodians of the coins. This has been the plan for quite a while now but what some people don't get is the difference between theory and practice. That's why they keep flapping they're yaps, while others actually do WORK.

Meanwhile all this BS doesn't affect the general public who are very interested in the project and we are working on improving out media exposure in order to reach more and more of the general public.

There are several people behind the scenes who normally do not voice off publicly because they concentrate on work, but I imagine they are really starting to get pissed off now so you may hear from them.

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