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I already did similarly—but from an English-language article, and without the #Ratimov tag. Nice touch! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5298710.0It makes a good point, but I don’t want to encourage too much of this. —Well, maybe not. If Ratimov can build up his forum career with copy-pastes and Google Translate, then seriously, why shouldn’t others? wooI_Ioow is well on his way to becoming a merit source and DT1 with >3000 earned merits, and many opportunities! In my evil thoughts, I have also considered that perhaps I should write a script that auto-spams the forum with 10 or 20 or 500 copy-pasted articles per day—with an optional command-line switch for laundering through Google Translate. I would name the script ratimov, because Ratimov himself is such a script. If I were to upload ratimov to Github, it would be a service to Newbies who want to rank up their accounts, get bestest bounties. Is it not a Forum Virtue to help Newbies follow the exemplary achievements of the forum’s high-trust, high-merit users?
Still waiting for links to knowledgeable posts Ratimov has made which aren't copy paste. Why does no one reply? Still no answer. Has Ratimov made any high-quality posts from his own original work!?Perhaps some people may not understand why this case invokes my wrath. But it should anger anyone who has spent considerable time and effort contributing original work to this forum. If I were asked the same question as ScumBuster has asked Ratimov, then I could simply point to my post history! I only make original posts! Want a short list selection? I just tried to pick ten of my own best posts almost at random, and wound up with eleven: - Re: Why do people hate segwit so much? (2017-12-04) 16 merits, even though this Newbie post was made almost two months before the start of the merit system. Original commentary in my own words, supported by a properly cited quotation of Greg Maxwell re ASICBOOST. Post #11 in my post history.
- One of my best-ever posts about privacy. (2017-12-06) This Newbie post also received some merits, even though it was made two months before merits existed. A fully original short essay, with some original ideas that I have never seen expressed anywhere else.
- Bitcoin’s Public-Key Security Level. (2018-01-31) One of my best-ever posts, in my own opinion. Fully original writing, except for one screenshot of a table from the SEC 2 standard (the document that defines secp256k1).
- A post about what standards of evidence should be applied by DT in forum disputes. Fully original writing (except for contextual reply quotes). (2020-02-05)
- Lauda is a WITCH, who cast an evil spell on me! BURN THE WITCH! (2018-02-18) An original satire that influenced theymos’ 2018 April Fool’s joke, and gave Lauda her final permanent avatar.
Note: I was gone from the forum between 2018-04-24 and 2020-01-01, and also from late May–late August 2020. - Project Anastasia: Bitcoiners Against Identity Theft. (2020-01-05) Not only original writing, but a highly original idea: The comparison of Craig Wright’s theft of Satoshi’s identity with the imposters who pretended to be Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova.
- [WO] The banking system doesn’t work (2020-09-18)
- [WO] Brainlaundering about “money laundering” (2020-09-21) A short “Emperor has no clothes!” style post pointing out a fallacy that I don’t see being discussed. Original thinking.
- [WO] Fungibility, Payjoin, and CoinSwap (2020-10-05) Mostly references or quotes other sources; but ties that together with my own commentary, explaining why this is important.
- Why privacy? — Re: Buying a domain (anonymously) using bitcoin (2020-10-28) Centred around properly sourced quotations of some jlopp material, but that is only to support my own commentary.
- Judge concurs with nullius: Keys = titular ownership (vs. beneficial ownership) (2020-11-25) Again! Not only do I use my own words, but I express my own original thinking, or at least independent thinking. To my knowledge, I am the first person ever to identify Bitcoin’s essential nature as a bearer asset, and thereupon to differentiate between titular ownership versus beneficial ownership—at least, I never saw anyone else say this before I did. (I first expressed this idea on 2020-01-19, as thereby self-quoted.)
Imagine what I personally invested here! Now, I feel cheated. For Ratimov to obtain social status, forum merits, DT1 power, and financial compensation by defrauding the public with rip-off posts, it is a slap in the face to anyone who has ever spent real time, effort, and virtù on this forum.It makes me wonder: Why did I ever waste my life contributing to this forum?Of course, I do not mean that to be about myself only. Other contributors, or potential contributors may reasonably feel the same way. This is damaging to the long-term health of the forum: Ratimov has shown that honest hard work is stupid. Hereby, we have the same problem: A generalized version of Gresham’s Law. The bad displaces the good. The result is a state of affairs in which the honest, the truthful ones, are considered the more stupid. It would end in the belief that it is better to have a share in the wrongdoing, than to stand by with empty hands or allow oneself to be wronged.
With due apologies to the gentleman who just started cursing at me under his breath. I realized long ago that this forum is not a place for gentlemen.i would consider it as bad taste. But such jokes is beyond of understanding of any westerner Ah, you are too much of a gentleman! Although nobody understands Russian humour, I hope that this is in somewhat better taste: “DT1 дивa” lovesmayfamilis wants a Prada bag full of merrrritttss!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7xDfqSAdh0Must be viewed full-sized to be appreciated; lovesmayfamilis has my permission to use it as her desktop wallpaper (full HD, 1920x1080): I should elaborate on something that English speakers may not understand from my prior post. In the post that I quoted, wherein lovesmayfamilis depicted Ratimov as Superman, she specifically praised him as a “вceвидящий copc”, ‘all-seeing source’. Whereas “copc” is not even a native Russian word; it is a phonetic transliteration of “source” (compare “oпeн copc”, ‘open source’). In the context of her post, lovesmayfamilis called Ratimov the all-seeing merit source who surely sees many of her own posts. Protip for plagiarists and copy-paste spammers: Get source status, and send many merits to lovesmayfamilis. She will defend your allegedly God- Mod-given right to copy and paste whole posts. But if you have not sent her hundreds of source merits, then she will demand that you should be banned!
And yeah, your try to accuse someone in hypocrisy will not work. Russians (in a a counterweight to ukrainians and belarusians) are well known for their "двoeмыcлиe". Alas—I always tell Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians, sometimes the worst feuds are between brothers. I respect people from all these lands, although I understand why some of them have animosity toward each other. Anyway, no Russian can beat the Americans for “двoeмыcлиe”, at which Americans are history’s past-masters. This being an American forum, perhaps I should not have such high expectations for integrity.
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December 14, 2020, 05:24:55 AM Last edit: December 14, 2020, 06:13:30 AM by wooI_Ioow |
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@nullius, perhaps my thoughts are even more evil. With enough merits I would give anyone the opportunity to try the posting in the Ratimov-style and get merit from me and, eventually, from others. Rules would be as simple as that: find non-English article, feed it to Google Translate, copy-paste output, credit Ratimov's "invention" by placing at the top "#Ratimov's-style". ChipMixer signature holders would be more than welcomed.
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@nullius, perhaps my thoughts are even more evil. With enough merits I would give anyone the opportunity to try the posting in the Ratimov-style and get merit from me and, eventually, from others. But you don’t have enough merits? That is easy to fix: Apply for merit source privileges!For your application, choose some genuinely-faked-by Ratimov rip-offs that you feel deserve an extra +10 or +50 for creative original means of getting away with plagiarism. Stuff your application with some “stuffing” posts by bitcoinst (and all of his alts), to show that you are unbiased and you do not simply favour Ratimov. To show that you bear no grudges or ill-will toward anybody (and to gain political support from someone who will do anything for merits!), also include in your application the copy-paste for which lovesmayfamilis was previously banned. Soon, you will be the Superhero and “all-seeing source” of Newbies who spam the forum with plagiarised articles so that they can rank up, get bestest bounties. I hope that everybody realizes that I am joking.I hope that I am joking. The way this thread is going, it may actually be the state of the forum.
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December 14, 2020, 07:37:55 AM Last edit: December 14, 2020, 08:49:10 AM by wooI_Ioow |
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@nullius, perhaps my thoughts are even more evil. With enough merits I would give anyone the opportunity to try the posting in the Ratimov-style and get merit from me and, eventually, from others. But you don’t have enough merits? That is easy to fix: Apply for merit source privileges!For your application, choose some genuinely-faked-by Ratimov rip-offs that you feel deserve an extra +10 or +50 for creative original means of getting away with plagiarism. Stuff your application with some “stuffing” posts by bitcoinst (and all of his alts), to show that you are unbiased and you do not simply favour Ratimov. To show that you bear no grudges or ill-will toward anybody (and to gain political support from someone who will do anything for merits!), also include in your application the copy-paste for which lovesmayfamilis was previously banned. Soon, you will be the Superhero and “all-seeing source” of Newbies who spam the forum with plagiarised articles so that they can rank up, get bestest bounties. I hope that everybody realizes that I am joking.I hope that I am joking. The way this thread is going, it may actually be the state of the forum.You are genuinely whip-smart devil. That's a chance, perhaps, i'll take it in a while.
Maybe this time I have to challenge Russian section and place there my "genuine" Ratimiv's style article . Ratimov does reverse in the local https://www.fidelitydigitalassets.com/articles/corporate-treasurer-bitcoinhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281318.msg55817867#msg55817867
Their mod is likely to favor my endeavor. Take a closer look at the list of sources from Ratimov. The link to the source that you are quoting is in the list of sources from Ratimov
What do you think?
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December 14, 2020, 12:00:27 PM |
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I confirmed (with a spot check, not word-by-word collation) that the post indeed matches Google Translate’s output. However, this one is clearly attributed at the top, and is therefore not plagiarism. It is a copy-paste, of course. But not plagiarism. “Aвтop” = ‘Author’; “Opигинaл” = ‘Original’I observe that this post was made on 2020-12-13, after this thread was raised on 2020-12-05. Ratimov’s citation is in a format more or less similar to what I myself suggested 2020-12-10; and he uses exactly the format for (human) translations that I suggested to wolwoo on 2020-04-17; thus, I certainly don’t call that plagiarism. (If it were the unattributed copy of a human translation published elsewhere, then it would be a plagiarism of the translation; I have recently begun to suspect that generally, there may be rampant plagiarism of translations by fake translators. But I think that the application of principle to automated translation tools is subtle, and not always so easy to answer. Ratimov’s abuse of Google Translate for his pretense of being a translator (!) to and from languages that he positively claims not to know (!!) is certainly fraudulent, dishonest, and untrustworthy; but is it plagiarism? I lean towards “yes” because he does it habitually, and oftentimes with the explicit claim that he is the translator. I think that the claim of being a translator pushes it over the line. Other cases may differ.) On its face, Ratimov’s post does blatantly violate (at least) Global Rule #27, and also the Russian local rule against “stuffing” that lovesmayfamilis so helpfully raised in the bitcoinst case (plus, perhaps, the rule against low-value posts). As mprep recently noted, moderators have discretion to apply the spirit of the rules, not merely the letter thereof; I appreciate this, and I do not suggest that rules should ever be applied mechanistically. However, if Ratimov does this frequently (let alone makes a career of it), then it clearly must be prohibited unless there are special rules just for him. The spirit of the rules is, after all, to stop sigspammers from making rank, merit, and money with negligible effort by flooding the forum with stuff they don’t actually produce, thus drowning out quality posts and reducing the quality of discussion for everyone. 27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed. Internal quotation expanded:Messages must be original. "Stuffing" the number of messages made by the copy-paste principle from another resource is unacceptable. Such messages fall under the first paragraph of the rules. 7. Cooбщeния дoлжны быть opигинaльными. "Haбивaниe" кoличecтвa cooбщeний cдeлaнныx пo пpинципy кoпи-пacтa c дpyгoгo pecypca нeдoпycтимo. Пoдoбныe cooбщeния пoдпaдaют пoд пepвый пyнкт пpaвил.
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December 14, 2020, 12:41:54 PM |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281318.msg55817867#msg55817867This has reference at the topic ✅ This is not plagiarism ✅ This is not translation ✅ Then what is it ❓ A head to head comparison just to make it as clear as mineral water | | | | | | | | | | | _______________________ | | | _______________________ |
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
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December 14, 2020, 02:25:16 PM |
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I would like to note that I really like to read the materials of the user Ratimov on the forum.
I periodically read articles on various issues of the crypto industry. These articles have been translated from English. Ratimov also writes interesting posts on trading and on general issues of the forum (this is original content).
It seems to me that Ratimov performs a very important function on the forum - he systematizes various content. It seems to me that he motivates other members of the forum to write better content.
There are not very many participants on the forum now. Every active forum member is very valuable to our community.
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December 14, 2020, 02:55:09 PM |
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Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him.
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December 14, 2020, 03:40:34 PM |
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Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him.
My opinion is that there is no plagiarism.
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December 14, 2020, 03:42:42 PM |
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Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him.
My opinion is that there is no plagiarism. My opinion is that there is plagiarism. + I create new topic about Ratimov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300035.0
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December 14, 2020, 03:43:06 PM |
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I often spend hours of painstaking effort on one post. I know that some other high-merit users invest similarly.
It's obvious you do, though that tends to force other members to have to invest tons of time reading what you wrote, which I cannot consistently do I'm afraid. But that's a "me" problem and not a "you" one. Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him.
Yeah. I sort of hate to see Ratimov get banned, but if he plagiarized something then at the very least he deserves a temp or a signature ban--and that would only be if Theymos agreed that he deserved such lenient treatment. I think I've only seen one or two members get their accounts restored, so it's rare.
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December 14, 2020, 04:36:53 PM Last edit: December 14, 2020, 04:58:24 PM by wooI_Ioow |
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On its face, Ratimov’s post does blatantly violate (at least) Global Rule #27, Yes, that was the connotation of my message. Literally the half of his Russian contribution is Google Translate copypasta which violates Rule #27. That Ratimov's rule#27- breaking-copypasta is so wide that it goes far beyond the scope of this thread and requires the new one filled in the details.
Reported with the following comments: Blessing, but "a rabbit hole" is much deeper.
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December 14, 2020, 10:00:23 PM |
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Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him.
Yeah. I sort of hate to see Ratimov get banned, but if he plagiarized something then at the very least he deserves a temp or a signature ban--and that would only be if Theymos agreed that he deserved such lenient treatment. I think I've only seen one or two members get their accounts restored, so it's rare. It’s ironic that at this juncture, you mention theymos’ general hard line against plagiarism. For in the Russian Reputation topic, Ratimov is now claiming that theymos has answered this Meta topic (via global moderator request)—impliedly to his favour. I think that he is playing the language barrier, insofar as many of the Russian readers may not understand this discussion—unless they use Google Translate, of course! (Though every Russian will understand what I said to lovesmayfamilis—etc., etc.)Cлoyпoк, oн yжe кaк 10 днeй тaм гopит, тaм yжe oтвeтили пoчти вce, включaя мoдepoв и тeймoca(чepeз зaпpoc глoбaлa)A LVL F тoлькo peкoмeндyeт. C пoдключeниeм. Ends with usual conspiracy theories. Ratimov claims that only trolls are interested in this hereby Meta topic—indeed, that only trolls say that what he did is plagiarism: Кoтopыe yжe oтпиcaлиcь тaм или пpocтo пpoшли мимo? Cлoyпoк. Taм yжe дaвнo paзoбpaлиcь, чтo этo пoд плaгиaт нe зaпиcaть, тoлькo пaчкa тpoллeй ocтaлacь дaльшe мycoлить этy тeмy. To my awareness, the only staff member who has commented publicly about Ratimov is Xal0lex, whose post on this topic was clearly wrong (as argued by myself and others in the ensuing pages). My discussion with mprep in the Rules thread, and mprep’s request for theymos’ opinion, was about the automated translation Rule #27, not the plagiarism rule; and it was a general question about the rules, not a specific question about the Ratimov case. (I also asked for a review of the plagiarism rule; but mprep declined to proceed with that.)It looks like Ratimov is making this up as he goes along.
I often spend hours of painstaking effort on one post. I know that some other high-merit users invest similarly.
It's obvious you do, though that tends to force other members to have to invest tons of time reading what you wrote, which I cannot consistently do I'm afraid. But that's a "me" problem and not a "you" one. No problem. I know that many of my posts about philosophy, history, art, culture, or politics may be, shall we say, “not of common interest”. It is why I mostly chose to list highly original posts on topics of interest to every reasonably intelligent reader of this forum: Bitcoin, and privacy. (To make some other points by the way, I started with a 2017 Bitcoin post that is very vitriolic toward Bcashers; and I added in a few DT/forum community classics.)That was not to brag about myself, but to illustrate why I care about this topic—and also to illustrate ScumBuster’s point, by contrast. The production of original work would neither justify nor excuse plagiarism; however, there is still a difference in degree between an occasional cheater (= bad), and one who substantially fakes his whole reputation with rip-offs of others’ work (= worse). Ratimov and his supporters claim that he is oh so great. Any monkey can copy and paste articles, with or without Google Translate. If Ratimov is such a great contributor to the community, really, please: Where are his high-quality original contributions? Will the Superhero Ratimov deign to treat us to a portfolio shortlist of his knowledgeable, in-depth original work, like the list that I easily provided for myself? I need not comment on what my list shows about Ratimov’s allegation that only trolls are interested in this Meta topic.
On its face, Ratimov’s post does blatantly violate (at least) Global Rule #27,
Yes, that was the connotation of my message. Literally the half of his Russian contribution is Google Translate copypasta which violates Rule #27. That Ratimov's rule#27- breaking-copypasta is so wide that it goes far beyond the scope of this thread and requires the new one filled in the details. I suggest that it’s unnecessary to proliferate threads about Ratimov. There should probably be a Reputation topic about his DT status; but making too many Meta topics about one person would dissipate the signal, and raise the noise. Neither helps lead to appropriate actions; and it would be inconvenient for people to follow multiple threads about Ratimov. I offer this advice to help the Newbie. If Ratimov is habitually breaking other forum rules, that is a Meta issue. Unless OP objects that it may dilute the focus of the topic on the most serious accusation of plagiarism, I propose that we should discuss that here. I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs.
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.... Blessing, but "a rabbit hole" is much deeper.
Good to see that the posts has been deleted. If anyone expert in spotting this kind of behaviours then I would suggest them to report to the mods and it will be handled. At least this action of my reported posts shows the good interest. Let's not go against mods, admins or anyone here just because a user found a way to abuse a rule. Maybe the officials are still puzzled and looking for a way to stop this kind of activities.
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How can I get such reports status? I don't know how many reports you currently have but from 300 good reports you have access to these statistics. Other source: new report history stats accessed after 300 good reports
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fxpc
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KTO EC/\U HUKTO?
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December 15, 2020, 11:15:08 PM Last edit: December 15, 2020, 11:25:11 PM by fxpc |
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I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs.
Yes, it is. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224353.0Ratimov and zasad@ are corrupt. They both spammed Russian local with Google translations. I doubt very much that these are 2 different persons but it isn't important. Both users are involved in merit abuse to monetize their spam. Bestchange - advertising buyer from zasad@ (not only signature campaign) said: Xoтим пoблaгoдapить zasad@ зa eгo вклaд в paзвитиe кpиптoвaлютнoгo cooбщecтвa.
We would like to thank zasad@ for his contribution to the development of the cryptocurrency community.
Bestchange didn't answer to my public question - how does he measure this "development"? But zasad@ fell into hysterics as it happened many times before, which is surprisingly similar to Ratimov's hysterics. https://archive.is/noAz2Google translations for Bitcointalk is more valuable than anything else? I have no other reasonable explanations for the facts of farming 2 spammer's accounts into heroes in 1 year and for amount of merit exceeding the activity by ~4 times. Satoshi, we fucked everything up. (johhnyUA)
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December 16, 2020, 01:55:01 AM |
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Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles?
Yes, he is. With such brave investigative work, soon you will be a Hero Member with >3000 earned merits, DT1 status, and merit source privileges hated by certain parties. Keep it up!
Maybe the officials are still puzzled and looking for a way to stop this kind of activities. I hope so.
I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs.
Yes, it is. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224353.0Ratimov and zasad@ are corrupt. They both spammed Russian local with Google translations. [...] Google translations for Bitcointalk is more valuable than anything else? I have no other reasonable explanations for the facts of farming 2 spammer's accounts into heroes in 1 year and for amount of merit exceeding the activity by ~4 times. Thanks for the insight from a Russian local regular. I have a question that perhaps may be best answered from your perspective. I detect from your signature (and your previous signature!) that you have a certain... dislike for sigspam. I myself have always refused a paid signature; but I am more moderate toward this issue. I think that some good people get paid for their time and effort on the forum; and because they are good contributors, they only accept signatures from campaigns with the best reputations for zero spam. Now, in the thread to which you linked (and johhny linked before here), I noticed something that made me uncomfortable. Vadi2323 (Legendary, registration date in 2014) has a parody signature hostile to Chipmixer. As a privacy advocate, I have oftentimes defended Chipmixer’s reputation. I even ran my own little custom Chipmixer ad for nine months, with zero payment — not in the official campaign! — only to show solidarity with Chipmixer, and to protest against this type of hostility. I wonder, why the hostility toward Chipmixer? Is the Google Translate spam from Ratimov bringing ill repute to his sponsor inside the Russian forum, where perhaps the campaign manager may not be able to follow all activity? My thanks for any further insight that may be provided by you, or by other Russian forum regulars who despise spam. (Note: This text has been tested and modified, to make it a little bit easier for Russian users to read with Google Translate. Thus, it is not quite my usual writing style.)
Satoshi, we fucked everything up. (johhnyUA) It is a wise quote. On many points. Unfortunately. P.S., fxpc, perhaps I would copy your signature — if my signature were not bought and paid for by my PGP key fingerprint!
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