2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers

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UEFA is the football federation with the most money in existence.

And the money matters the most.


 

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[Sithara007]

Germany, on the other hand, lost to a small team, North Macedonia. No one expected such a bad performance from them. I lost the bet in this match.

I won't bet on Germany's matches as long as Joachim Low is still coach. With his tactics, the matches have become so hard to predict. He should be replaced before the European Championship. He has passed his zenith. For me, he is the Angela Merkel of German football: complete overconfidence and bad timing when to step down.

Germany really don't have a performance like in their old times. They can't even beat a very easy competitor like North Macedonia. How can I wait for them to fight for the World Cup while they are having terrible results?

Fortunately for Germany, they were placed in a relatively easy group. And the other big team in their group (Romania) is also not doing very good right now. I was expecting Germany and Romania to remain as the top two teams in Group J, but right now they are at no.3 and no.4 respectively. Armenia is at the top, with 9 points from 3 matches, while North Macedonia is at no.2, thanks to a better goal difference when compared to Germany. 

[joker_josue]

It is definitely an idiotic excuse, there is no way that we could agree with this excuse and let them get away with it. I do agree that it was definitely something that shouldn't have happened and that is why I think they should put it back. However doing so after this situation would be a bit weird as well, how are they going to end up defending themselves?

I do not think that this is something that could have been defended, it is just pure shame and if they end up changing the rules from now on that is going to be a bit more difficult. This is why I think it is going to be b it harder to explain things to people and they will just let it be and not change anything. That is at least what I imagine will happen, maybe I am wrong and maybe they will change it but I can say with 90% confidence that they will not end up doing anything like this to not piss off people.

I agree! They will now not change anything during the entire qualifying. That would be an assumption of guilt, which they will never do.

It took a lot of pressure from big countries to make this change. But the countries that could really put that pressure on (like Germany), are not going to do that because they ended up benefiting.

And the money matters the most.

You know... FIFA worldcup...  

[W Jr.]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

[jakdanyel]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

It is really sad to see Turkey's many players have got covid-19. I hope they get well soon. I'm not sure about a delay for the group matches in the qualifiers. Because the next matches of the groups will start at the beginning of September.

[W Jr.]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

It is really sad to see Turkey's many players have got covid-19. I hope they get well soon. I'm not sure about a delay for the group matches in the qualifiers. Because the next matches of the groups will start at the beginning of September.

Yes you are right.There won't be any matches until September.Still, these players come together for qualifiers while playing in different clubs around the world.This situation may also affect the clubs they play football with.Thats why I asked.Probably no delay.

[FIFA worldcup]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

It is really sad to see Turkey's many players have got covid-19. I hope they get well soon. I'm not sure about a delay for the group matches in the qualifiers. Because the next matches of the groups will start at the beginning of September.

There is a lot of time in September and it will give enough time to the players to recover from the covid-19 and resume the play. If this was not the case, it could be the end for the Turkish journey for the qualifying the world cup. i hope other nations players who played with turkey are safe.

[joker_josue]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

It is really sad to see Turkey's many players have got covid-19. I hope they get well soon. I'm not sure about a delay for the group matches in the qualifiers. Because the next matches of the groups will start at the beginning of September.

There is a lot of time in September and it will give enough time to the players to recover from the covid-19 and resume the play. If this was not the case, it could be the end for the Turkish journey for the qualifying the world cup. i hope other nations players who played with turkey are safe.

It is true that only in September will there be games to qualify for the World Cup again.
But in the summer, Turkey will participate in the European Championship.

I believe they will recover by then. But it can affect a team, or several in this case, for a while.
Several teams, which had a large number of players with COVID, decreased their performance for a month or two.

[Pulsar77]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

It is really sad to see Turkey's many players have got covid-19. I hope they get well soon. I'm not sure about a delay for the group matches in the qualifiers. Because the next matches of the groups will start at the beginning of September.

There is a lot of time in September and it will give enough time to the players to recover from the covid-19 and resume the play. If this was not the case, it could be the end for the Turkish journey for the qualifying the world cup. i hope other nations players who played with turkey are safe.

It is true that only in September will there be games to qualify for the World Cup again.
But in the summer, Turkey will participate in the European Championship.

I believe they will recover by then. But it can affect a team, or several in this case, for a while.
Several teams, which had a large number of players with COVID, decreased their performance for a month or two.

Yes, there are only 2 months for Euro 2020 to start. Even if the players get well until then, we don't know whether they will show at least the same level of performance in those matches. But we can have some opinion about it after the players start playing at their clubs again.

[bryant.coleman]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

I heard that a number of the players tested positive after they returned home from the qualifying match against Latvia (which ended in a 3-3 draw). However, the exact number is not known. Çağlar Söyüncü (Leicester City F.C.), Kenan Karaman (Fortuna Dusseldorf), Merih Demiral (Juventus) and Zeki Celik (Lille) are some of the players who are confirmed to have returned a positive test result. Fortunately for Turkey, their next match is on 4th Septermber (against the weak Gibraltar).

[W Jr.]

Returning from World Cup qualifying matches, most of Turkey's national team players tested positive for Covid-19.  Turkey's Group G match made in Norway, the Netherlands and Latvia team players would not be wrong to say that at risk.If similar situations occur in other groups, can eliminations be delayed?

I heard that a number of the players tested positive after they returned home from the qualifying match against Latvia (which ended in a 3-3 draw). However, the exact number is not known. Çağlar Söyüncü (Leicester City F.C.), Kenan Karaman (Fortuna Dusseldorf), Merih Demiral (Juventus) and Zeki Celik (Lille) are some of the players who are confirmed to have returned a positive test result. Fortunately for Turkey, their next match is on 4th Septermber (against the weak Gibraltar).

Turkey, Euro 2021 will also attend.There is this tournament before September.So even if it's okay for now, if there is another coronavirus outbreak during the tournament, it would be a disaster for all teams.I hope the pandemic will end as soon as possible.We missed watching football with pleasure.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Turkey, Euro 2021 will also attend.There is this tournament before September.So even if it's okay for now, if there is another coronavirus outbreak during the tournament, it would be a disaster for all teams.I hope the pandemic will end as soon as possible.We missed watching football with pleasure.

I guess the players were not vaccinated? Many of the countries are vaccinating their sports personal, as they need to travel frequently. And the Turkish side had visited various countries for qualifying matches, and on top of that many of the players are taking part in EPL and some of the other premier football leagues across Europe (for example, Soyuncu was part of the Leicester City squad, and was given temporary leave to participate in the qualifiers).

[joker_josue]

I guess the players were not vaccinated? Many of the countries are vaccinating their sports personal, as they need to travel frequently.

I believe that in Europe, this is not happening.
There is a shortage of vaccines, and I have not heard reports that are being given to professional players.

At least in Portugal, this is not happening. I am not sure about other countries.

[sana54210]

there are only 2 months for Euro 2020 to start. Even if the players get well until then, we don't know whether they will show at least the same level of performance in those matches. But we can have some opinion about it after the players start playing at their clubs again.

I am sure that they will be fine when the euro cup starts, but this world cup qualifiers was a proof that players could still be in risk when they go to world cup as well. The registration is not that much for player numbers, and that means if there is something like this in the teams that would make the teams be in trouble to put 18 players in the game, what if they bring 25-30 players and register them and have about 15 players getting covid? That would be very risky and that will end up with problems.

We know how covid is spread and we have to realize that these players fight side by side so it is very risky. Clubs are a bit more careful because they are all on the same place, but national team is different since everyone comes from different nations into their national team and it would be very risky to keep something like that work without covid. I believe world cup should be a bubble type of thing like how NBA did at the end of the last season.

[7788bitcoin]

What the fuck did i saw with Germany loosing to North Macedonia, what is going on with the team and i have not seen  North Macedonia defeating top teams before and my brain is scrambling as i made a parlay bet along with other bets and Germany just lost to some random team which i have not heard before  . It is better to stay away from these mess as i thought these are easy fixtures again smaller teams.

Big teams don't play their greatest players at the start of the match, this is the reason for the defeat of Germany or other top teams.

Did you see how Timo Werner and Ter Stegen performed? They are so messed up, even if you look at the replays, you will see Timo Werner can't score in front of the goal. Be careful if you bet on a weak team match against a strong team.

I understand that they wont play the best players against weaker teams but a defeat cannot be justified and i was watching the match when Macedonia scored the goal in the last minutes of the first half and from then on i was watching the match and when i found that the German players were struggling to score goals even in the open i wanted to cash out as i knew something is fishy but unfortunately the cash out option was not available for the match.

[Saint-loup]

What the fuck did i saw with Germany loosing to North Macedonia, what is going on with the team and i have not seen  North Macedonia defeating top teams before and my brain is scrambling as i made a parlay bet along with other bets and Germany just lost to some random team which i have not heard before  . It is better to stay away from these mess as i thought these are easy fixtures again smaller teams.

Big teams don't play their greatest players at the start of the match, this is the reason for the defeat of Germany or other top teams.

Did you see how Timo Werner and Ter Stegen performed? They are so messed up, even if you look at the replays, you will see Timo Werner can't score in front of the goal. Be careful if you bet on a weak team match against a strong team.

I understand that they wont play the best players against weaker teams but a defeat cannot be justified and i was watching the match when Macedonia scored the goal in the last minutes of the first half and from then on i was watching the match and when i found that the German players were struggling to score goals even in the open i wanted to cash out as i knew something is fishy but unfortunately the cash out option was not available for the match.

But you said above it was one leg of a parlay, so how could you cash out your bet? I don't understand. Very weak teams beating strong teams is not uncommon at all, that's why soccer is such an exciting sport. Germany had "only" 90% chances to win this match according to bookmakers (1.10^-1x100).
https://www.betexplorer.com/soccer/world/world-cup-2022/germany-north-macedonia/ImicFUN3/
That means in 10 matches between those 2 teams, Germany would only win 9 times, when you bet you have to take this percent share of uncertainty into account when odds are above 1.00.

[Sithara007]

I understand that they wont play the best players against weaker teams but a defeat cannot be justified and i was watching the match when Macedonia scored the goal in the last minutes of the first half and from then on i was watching the match and when i found that the German players were struggling to score goals even in the open i wanted to cash out as i knew something is fishy but unfortunately the cash out option was not available for the match.

On top of that, it was a completely one sided match (irrespective of what the stats say about the match). If the referees were neutral, then North Macedonia would have won the match 3-0 (even the tweet from former German international Bastian Schweinsteiger confirmed the same). The small victory margin is not because the match was close, but due to mistakes made by the referee. There is no justification to the loss. The simple fact is that on that day North Macedonia turned out to be a much better team when compared to Germany.

[bitzizzix]

I understand that they wont play the best players against weaker teams but a defeat cannot be justified and i was watching the match when Macedonia scored the goal in the last minutes of the first half and from then on i was watching the match and when i found that the German players were struggling to score goals even in the open i wanted to cash out as i knew something is fishy but unfortunately the cash out option was not available for the match.

On top of that, it was a completely one sided match (irrespective of what the stats say about the match). If the referees were neutral, then North Macedonia would have won the match 3-0 (even the tweet from former German international Bastian Schweinsteiger confirmed the same). The small victory margin is not because the match was close, but due to mistakes made by the referee. There is no justification to the loss. The simple fact is that on that day North Macedonia turned out to be a much better team when compared to Germany.

And the reason Joachim Loew had several reasons behind the defeat to Germany and one of them was the condition of his players, and Loew said the German player was not fit to play the desired tactics.
And if we look at the game Germany is very fast and statistically far superior to North Macedonia, and I don't judge the referee I think the North Macedonia game was played with patience and discipline.

[bryant.coleman]

And the reason Joachim Loew had several reasons behind the defeat to Germany and one of them was the condition of his players, and Loew said the German player was not fit to play the desired tactics.
And if we look at the game Germany is very fast and statistically far superior to North Macedonia, and I don't judge the referee I think the North Macedonia game was played with patience and discipline.

Joachim Löw took a lot of blame for the defeat against North Macedonia (which I believe was unfair). The fact is that the German players have been in very poor form for some time now. This is the same team that got thrashed by Spain 0-6 in November 2020 (which was incidentally Germany's worst defeat since 1931). The recent matches just confirm that Germany hasn't recovered as of yet.

[joker_josue]

Joachim Löw took a lot of blame for the defeat against North Macedonia (which I believe was unfair). The fact is that the German players have been in very poor form for some time now. This is the same team that got thrashed by Spain 0-6 in November 2020 (which was incidentally Germany's worst defeat since 1931). The recent matches just confirm that Germany hasn't recovered as of yet.

In addition to the low physical condition of the current players, we have to keep in mind that Alemenha is going through a phase of renewal of the team.
They still do not have enough young players, able to make up for the wear and tear of the more experienced.