2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers

[famososMuertos]

However, as Ronaldo is a dedicated player who value his performance excellency, it's expected he can stay fit even after 40 years old, still offering a decent contribution to any teams he might play for. I think it's too early yet for him to make a decision like that. On the other hand, it's also speculated that Ronaldo wants to leave the national team with a perfect rating on his history and if he keeps playing for longer, there is some risk his performance may drop considerably due to his age and physical limitations it implies.

You are implicating yourself  
A vibrant young useless player might even be more useful than he would be at that age   wack.!
Already he's diminshing greatly in form, I'd even advise him not to play the 2022 world cup because that would be the beginning of a worthless debut.
The Ronaldo i knew 10 years ago could dribble pass three people in a row, but now he barely goes face to face with a player to dribble
The only thing that's fetching him goals is his positioning.; He's always waiting at the right spot for the ball to get across,his height too.

The idea of longevity in sports is spreading, it is not uncommon to see guys over 35-40 in elite sports, but in football this is strange,  football requires  demands even on goalkeepers, to That adds the talent waiting for an opportunity.

But there are exceptional guys, we have to admit it, I'm not even a fan of CR7 but as a good sports fan we have to recognize their achievements and if Messi's shadow didn't exist it would be the best of his time, well, that is Alisha-k is respect and show what a good fan one can be.

CR7 will surely play the World Cup in Qatar and by the way in that World Cup finally, perhaps we will have at the national team level who with that statistic in his favor can be considered the best player in recent years.

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[Vaskiy]

France, England, Germany and Belgium are stacked with star players. But how many of them are from native families? These countries are just stealing talent from poor African nations and strengthening their national side. Portugal doesn't have to do that, as they have enough talent in their country. Imagine how strong the Congolese national team would have been, if Romelu Lukaku was playing for them instead of Belgium. The same goes for Guinea (Paul Pogba) and Cameroon (Kylian Mbappé).

I do not quite understand what kind of theft you are talking about. Lukaku was born in Belgium. Pogba was born in France. Mbappe was also born in France. If this is stealing then it is level 80 theft: steal the parents who will then give you a super player   I think that many players (of any age) become top players in Europe for other reasons - Europe is the leader in football and here are the best football schools in the world. Therefore, even if a native of another country comes to Europe and becomes a star, this does not mean that someone has stolen a talented player, but means that here he has the opportunity to realize his talent.

In fact, I completely agree with you.
Brazil, for example, annually forms dozens of good players and most of them will play abroad, why? Because the country simply does not give these players the opportunity to develop professionally here, the government itself does not encourage the practice of the sport, this is regrettable.
I don't see it as a robbery either, because in most cases it's the player who prefers to play in another country, even if he has to stay away from his family, to be able to give them more conditions to have a dignified life, because many players are born into a low-income family.

When countries don't recognise, then to have the self respect players starts practicing somewhere else. This isn't with football, in every sports this can be seen. As in the quote, most of the players emerge out of low income families and they depend completely on their playing skills. When they weren't able to make a living out of it, then looking for the available opportunity and getting revealed to the world is the way of getting recognised and not the talents being stolen by someone else for their benefits.

[KTChampions]

To be honest I disagree with you regarding the theft of players. One thing that's important is that what the player wants. For example, players like Aymeric Laporte played for both Spain and France national teams. So if the player wants to shift his citizenship, he can do that the national team has nothing to do with this. But the only thing they can do is they can try convincing the player to not shift national team, but the whole decision depends on what the player wants.

According to FIFA rules, a player cannot change the national team for which he is playing. In 2020, this rule was slightly weakened, but in fact it remains impossible for someone who has already started playing seriously (there are a number of very difficult conditions to fulfill). Aymeric Laporte never played for the French national team as part of the senior national team, so he was able to easily start his performance for the senior team in Spain.

[uneng]

However, as Ronaldo is a dedicated player who value his performance excellency, it's expected he can stay fit even after 40 years old, still offering a decent contribution to any teams he might play for. I think it's too early yet for him to make a decision like that. On the other hand, it's also speculated that Ronaldo wants to leave the national team with a perfect rating on his history and if he keeps playing for longer, there is some risk his performance may drop considerably due to his age and physical limitations it implies.

You are implicating yourself 
A vibrant young useless player might even be more useful than he would be at that age  wack.!
Already he's diminshing greatly in form, I'd even advise him not to play the 2022 world cup because that would be the beginning of a worthless debut.
The Ronaldo i knew 10 years ago could dribble pass three people in a row, but now he barely goes face to face with a player to dribble

I think you are exaggerating. He can do better than a young useless player despite his age.
And actually, as @KTChampions pointed in another post, Portugal doesn't have many options to compose their national team right now. There is a clear lack of key players that may force the federation to insist in Ronaldo for more few years. It might be bad with him, but worse without him.

The only thing that's fetching him goals is his positioning.; He's always waiting at the right spot for the ball to get across,his height too.

A player who knows how to position well is already a valuable strategical advantage for the team.

[DU18]

Brazil scored 4 goals against Uruguay yesterday. Neymar opened the scoring with the first goal from Fred's pass in just 10 minutes. Brazil scored two goals in the first half and two more in the second half. Neymar has made 1 goal and 2 assists. On the other hand, Luis Suarez scored the only goal for Uruguay. Brazil attacked a lot yesterday. The Uruguayan players could not counter-attack. Brazil made 22 shots and 13 on-target shots. On the other hand, Uruguay has only 5 shots.

Brazil has shown us that they are still the rulers of latin american football and even now they have left argentina who are in second place with a difference of 6 points, brazil next match will be against colombia and it looks like it will be an easy win for brazil later.

Brazil seems to be back to its previous form and it seems they are going to be a threat during the next World Cup, the way they are dominating their qualifiers is impressive and even if the quality of soccer played at South America is not as good as what you can see in Europe the level is still very high, which means they will be one of the favorites to win it all during the next World Cup which will be played at Qatar.

Brazil is currently showing quite an impressive performance during the group stage of the Latin America zone and in fact they have not lost at all in 11 matches, I agree with you, if right now Brazil deserves to be favorites to win the 2022 world cup and maybe we will see if they can win their sixth world cup trophy in 2022.

[BALIK]

To be honest I disagree with you regarding the theft of players. One thing that's important is that what the player wants. For example, players like Aymeric Laporte played for both Spain and France national teams. So if the player wants to shift his citizenship, he can do that the national team has nothing to do with this. But the only thing they can do is they can try convincing the player to not shift national team, but the whole decision depends on what the player wants.

According to FIFA rules, a player cannot change the national team for which he is playing. In 2020, this rule was slightly weakened, but in fact it remains impossible for someone who has already started playing seriously (there are a number of very difficult conditions to fulfill). Aymeric Laporte never played for the French national team as part of the senior national team, so he was able to easily start his performance for the senior team in Spain.

Oh, thanks for letting me know, I did not know that. But even if this rule is applied, if a player is born in for example A country but migrates to B country after a while and after being legal play for B country, I wouldn't call that a player theft to be honest. You know, players like Pogba or Lukaku didn't change their citizenship recently, rather they did that years ago. So overall, I think them not playing for their native country is a logical thing in my opinion.

Brazil scored 4 goals against Uruguay yesterday. Neymar opened the scoring with the first goal from Fred's pass in just 10 minutes. Brazil scored two goals in the first half and two more in the second half. Neymar has made 1 goal and 2 assists. On the other hand, Luis Suarez scored the only goal for Uruguay. Brazil attacked a lot yesterday. The Uruguayan players could not counter-attack. Brazil made 22 shots and 13 on-target shots. On the other hand, Uruguay has only 5 shots.

Brazil has shown us that they are still the rulers of latin american football and even now they have left argentina who are in second place with a difference of 6 points, brazil next match will be against colombia and it looks like it will be an easy win for brazil later.

Brazil has long been ahead of Argentina in the points table. The performance of the Argentina team is stable. They don't want to lose any match, they try their best to win the match, otherwise, they play for the draw. Brazil, on the other hand, plays attacking football. And there is a tendency to win by scoring a lot of goals.

[Boristhecat]

Brazil seems to be back to its previous form and it seems they are going to be a threat during the next World Cup, the way they are dominating their qualifiers is impressive and even if the quality of soccer played at South America is not as good as what you can see in Europe the level is still very high, which means they will be one of the favorites to win it all during the next World Cup which will be played at Qatar.

Their statistics in the qualifying tournament is really amazing - 11 wins, one draw and zero losses. Only 4 goals have been conceded and 26 have been scored. But it seems to me that it is too early to draw conclusions that Brazil will seriously claim to win the tournament, after all, the World Cup will be held at the geographical longitude of Europe where Brazil has historically performed very poorly.

[KTChampions]

According to FIFA rules, a player cannot change the national team for which he is playing. In 2020, this rule was slightly weakened, but in fact it remains impossible for someone who has already started playing seriously (there are a number of very difficult conditions to fulfill). Aymeric Laporte never played for the French national team as part of the senior national team, so he was able to easily start his performance for the senior team in Spain.

Oh, thanks for letting me know, I did not know that. But even if this rule is applied, if a player is born in for example A country but migrates to B country after a while and after being legal play for B country, I wouldn't call that a player theft to be honest. You know, players like Pogba or Lukaku didn't change their citizenship recently, rather they did that years ago. So overall, I think them not playing for their native country is a logical thing in my opinion.

I also do not see any problems in playing for any country (were you born there or not), this is the player's choice and it is not surprising that the best players choose the best options. But by the way, I must remind you that Pogba and Lukaku did not change their citizenship, when he was born in France and Lukaku was born in Belgium.

[BALIK]

@KTChampions, One thing is as human beings people always try to consider what would be best for them, right? They are footballers but they also have a family to support. So for example, Pogba is given the choice to play for his native country and France, he would definitely choose France as he'd get more recognition and fame and money over there. So it is only normal for them to choose so.

[KTChampions]

@KTChampions, One thing is as human beings people always try to consider what would be best for them, right? They are footballers but they also have a family to support. So for example, Pogba is given the choice to play for his native country and France, he would definitely choose France as he'd get more recognition and fame and money over there. So it is only normal for them to choose so.

I think that, firstly, the earnings from playing in the national teams are scanty compared to other earnings (salary in the club + contracts with sponsors), and secondly, Pogba was born in France and he did not have any need to choose between his parents' homeland and France since he personally is 100% French.

[cryptofrka]

So, apparently FIFA told all national football associations yesterday that they plan to host the World Cup every 2 years now. The general consensus among the nations associations is that they do not want this to happen, with some of them (reported as more than dozen) even furious enough to consider withdrawing from FIFA if that happens.

After the Super league fiasco, it will be interesting to see how this will end up.

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Sorry if there is a general thread for the World cup, this one seemed most appropriate from the ones I found using search.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Brazil seems to be back to its previous form and it seems they are going to be a threat during the next World Cup, the way they are dominating their qualifiers is impressive and even if the quality of soccer played at South America is not as good as what you can see in Europe the level is still very high, which means they will be one of the favorites to win it all during the next World Cup which will be played at Qatar.

Their statistics in the qualifying tournament is really amazing - 11 wins, one draw and zero losses. Only 4 goals have been conceded and 26 have been scored. But it seems to me that it is too early to draw conclusions that Brazil will seriously claim to win the tournament, after all, the World Cup will be held at the geographical longitude of Europe where Brazil has historically performed very poorly.

Well, but it should be noted that the qualifying rounds for the World Cups in South America are one of the most difficult, in fact, they are not like in Europe that are done through groups, there they are a all against all because it is the only way To see which is the strongest team, there are no groups of death or advantages over countries, it is one of the toughest qualifiers in the world.

However you are right to see that Brazil does not perform well on European soil in a World Cup, but the majority of Brazilian players play for European teams and are already familiar with their soccer climate and other factors to determine.

[KTChampions]

So, apparently FIFA told all national football associations yesterday that they plan to host the World Cup every 2 years now. The general consensus among the nations associations is that they do not want this to happen, with some of them (reported as more than dozen) even furious enough to consider withdrawing from FIFA if that happens.

After the Super league fiasco, it will be interesting to see how this will end up.

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Sorry if there is a general thread for the World cup, this one seemed most appropriate from the ones I found using search.

Everything is fine. I have already suggested making a separate thread about the crazy Infantino, but most likely it will not be very popular.
You are in vain talking about the collapse of the Super League, nothing is over yet, I think that after the courts finally reason with UEFA with their impudent attempts to monopolize football, the Super League will be launched. All these initiatives with the World Cup and others are just the agony of officials trying to maintain control over someone else's business, but it seems to me their time has passed and they are doomed.

[DU18]

@KTChampions, One thing is as human beings people always try to consider what would be best for them, right? They are footballers but they also have a family to support. So for example, Pogba is given the choice to play for his native country and France, he would definitely choose France as he'd get more recognition and fame and money over there. So it is only normal for them to choose so.

I think that, firstly, the earnings from playing in the national teams are scanty compared to other earnings (salary in the club + contracts with sponsors), and secondly, Pogba was born in France and he did not have any need to choose between his parents' homeland and France since he personally is 100% French.

Actually both of Pogba'l parents  from Guniea but have settled in France, actually Pogba who was born in France can choose between defending the French or Guniea national team, but instead Pogba prefers France while his two brothers are currently defending the Guniea National Team
Defending the National Team is a form of our loyalty to country and I think, every player certainly has the desire to defend their respective country regardless of the salary they get, but obviously the salary they get from the country is not as big as what they get from the club, but of course defending the country in international tournaments is a matter of pride invaluable to a football player.
I personally hope that if Pogba, who is a in France, does not experience the same thing as what Mesut Ozil got when he was still with the German national team, which when Ozil performed well and Germany won they would treat him quite well, but when Germany lost of course ozil will be blamed and considered a turkish immigrant.

[Silberman]

Brazil seems to be back to its previous form and it seems they are going to be a threat during the next World Cup, the way they are dominating their qualifiers is impressive and even if the quality of soccer played at South America is not as good as what you can see in Europe the level is still very high, which means they will be one of the favorites to win it all during the next World Cup which will be played at Qatar.

hmmm i think brazil never been in bad form    , since the copa america , they never lost except in the final and get two draw only since then. it was against ecuador and colombia which its not an easy game to play.

anyway yesterday wining against uruguay is an outstanding result , given the fact that they are a tough opponent with suarez in front and win it with 3 goals difference  (4-1) . the world cup qualification getting heat with uruguay at 5th , not a good situation for uruguay.

Sorry for not being clear, it is obvious they have been playing very good soccer during the current qualifiers and they are one of the favorites to win the world cup, however I meant this in historic terms, as during some of the recent World Cups they have been always been mentioned as part of the favorites but when I watched them play I thought they had no chance to win and will be eliminated the moment they faced a really good team, this time is different as I really think they have a chance to win it all.

[alegotardo]

hmmm i think brazil never been in bad form    , since the copa america , they never lost except in the final and get two draw only since then. it was against ecuador and colombia which its not an easy game to play.

In fact, Brazil has been playing good games lately.
Despite being a favorite team, in previous years their record was not the best, I think that since that 7-1 rout for Germany in the semifinal of the 2014 World Cup, it has never been the same... until now, it seems be recovering.

I would really like to have seen that World Cup qualifier between Brazil and Argentina, unfortunately it didn't happen.

[Boristhecat]

Their statistics in the qualifying tournament is really amazing - 11 wins, one draw and zero losses. Only 4 goals have been conceded and 26 have been scored. But it seems to me that it is too early to draw conclusions that Brazil will seriously claim to win the tournament, after all, the World Cup will be held at the geographical longitude of Europe where Brazil has historically performed very poorly.

Well, but it should be noted that the qualifying rounds for the World Cups in South America are one of the most difficult, in fact, they are not like in Europe that are done through groups, there they are a all against all because it is the only way To see which is the strongest team, there are no groups of death or advantages over countries, it is one of the toughest qualifiers in the world.

However you are right to see that Brazil does not perform well on European soil in a World Cup, but the majority of Brazilian players play for European teams and are already familiar with their soccer climate and other factors to determine.

Still, I think the European qualifiers are the most difficult. A very common scenario is that there are two strong teams in a group, one of them takes second place and meets with the same strong team that got into a similar situation in the other group. Thus, one team does not qualify for the World Cup. And this happens regularly, since the number of tickets to the World Cup from Europe is less than the number of top teams.
Now let's look at the difficulties of the qualifying tournament in South America. For whom do they arise? What must happen to prevent Argentina or Brazil from qualifying? They can perform as badly as possible, but their places are practically guaranteed due to the low level of other teams. As for other teams that from time to time become strong (Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, etc.), they have as many as 2 laps to prove their strength and get a ticket. The result of the long draw reflects the strength of the teams much more strongly than the shorter group stages in the European qualifiers.

[Davidvictorson]

To be honest I disagree with you regarding the theft of players. One thing that's important is that what the player wants. For example, players like Aymeric Laporte played for both Spain and France national teams. So if the player wants to shift his citizenship, he can do that the national team has nothing to do with this. But the only thing they can do is they can try convincing the player to not shift national team, but the whole decision depends on what the player wants.

According to FIFA rules, a player cannot change the national team for which he is playing. In 2020, this rule was slightly weakened, but in fact it remains impossible for someone who has already started playing seriously (there are a number of very difficult conditions to fulfill). Aymeric Laporte never played for the French national team as part of the senior national team, so he was able to easily start his performance for the senior team in Spain.

I think the rules states that if the player played for the first nation before turning 21 then he can switch national teams. The only condition where this can't happen is when the match was in the tournament phases of the World Cup or a continental competition

[minairia3]

Actually both of Pogba'l parents  from Guniea but have settled in France, actually Pogba who was born in France can choose between defending the French or Guniea national team, but instead Pogba prefers France while his two brothers are currently defending the Guniea National Team
Defending the National Team is a form of our loyalty to country and I think, every player certainly has the desire to defend their respective country regardless of the salary they get, but obviously the salary they get from the country is not as big as what they get from the club, but of course defending the country in international tournaments is a matter of pride invaluable to a football player.
I personally hope that if Pogba, who is a in France, does not experience the same thing as what Mesut Ozil got when he was still with the German national team, which when Ozil performed well and Germany won they would treat him quite well, but when Germany lost of course ozil will be blamed and considered a turkish immigrant.

Same for me. I just pray and hope he doesn't get the same treatment as Ozil did. What happened with Ozil is very unfortunate and I still think he should not have been treated like that. It's like when they are winning Ozil was one of there, but once they were losing, it felt like everything was going south because of Ozil which is unfair. Pogba is born to French but his parent is from Guinea. So I think there's less chance that he might experience what Ozil had previously.

[Juggy777]

Actually both of Pogba'l parents  from Guniea but have settled in France, actually Pogba who was born in France can choose between defending the French or Guniea national team, but instead Pogba prefers France while his two brothers are currently defending the Guniea National Team
Defending the National Team is a form of our loyalty to country and I think, every player certainly has the desire to defend their respective country regardless of the salary they get, but obviously the salary they get from the country is not as big as what they get from the club, but of course defending the country in international tournaments is a matter of pride invaluable to a football player.
I personally hope that if Pogba, who is a in France, does not experience the same thing as what Mesut Ozil got when he was still with the German national team, which when Ozil performed well and Germany won they would treat him quite well, but when Germany lost of course ozil will be blamed and considered a turkish immigrant.

Same for me. I just pray and hope he doesn't get the same treatment as Ozil did. What happened with Ozil is very unfortunate and I still think he should not have been treated like that. It's like when they are winning Ozil was one of there, but once they were losing, it felt like everything was going south because of Ozil which is unfair. Pogba is born to French but his parent is from Guinea. So I think there's less chance that he might experience what Ozil had previously.

I think Ozil caused some controversy if I remember correctly meeting with some president and commenting on China and that’s when he started receiving backlash, do correct me if I’m wrong cause I remember this in bits only.

Also Pogba is a global star and if France tries to screw him they’ll suffer the wrath of his fans, so rest assured he’s not going to suffer the same fate as Ozil, and I do believe that he’ll play an important role for France in 2022 World Cup.