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December 17, 2020, 01:39:32 PM
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When many people get addicted to gambling, that will become a serious matter to the government because it can trigger another problem. The level of crime can also increase, so the government should think much about that.

In reality, the government has nothing to do with that. The post-gambling effect is a behavior that only a gambler knows.

Crime related to gambling can't be controlled by the government no matter how strict the regulation is.

What the government's concern is illegal gambling operators and that's a big problem compared to that gambling behavior related stuff.

The government can investigate the crime in their city, and they can find out why that person does the crime. I watched on the local television, people who commit crimes want to have money to buy alcohol, having fun, and some of them using that money to gamble. All of that thing needs attention from the government.

The government conducts raids in illegal gambling places, and they found that some people are someone they search for because of doing crime.

They certainly have the statistics, but sometimes they will focus on a crime that is more serious, not everyone who commit crimes are related to gambling, so gambling isn't that bad, it's just there are people who really are irresponsible and have become drug addict and they think of committing crime. Usual cause of crime are illegal drugs and alcohol, so gambling is out in the picture because most gamblers are not criminals, meaning people enjoy gambling.


We can't blame gamblers committed crimes in gambling because not all gamblers are in the same perception and gambling were not a crime. We have our own choices in life and being a gamblers isn't bad as long as we know how to handle our emotions and how to control the way we commit ourselves in gambling. We also have our own reasons why we are here in the world of gambling, some were aiming for a high profit, some were here for entertaiment and that's totally fine because it isn't a crime.

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December 17, 2020, 01:57:43 PM
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But i don't think that there are even single country that has no media exposure as long as the gambling in that country is legal and not banned.
Perhaps, one or two countries will expose gambling and tells that gambling is legal, and the other will tells gambling is banned. It depends on each government's reaction.
well you have a point and i may agree on that since we don't know how each government manage their system specially in gambling.
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actually the issue here is that the capacity to list those given details and i believe that there are some changes here in benefits of each one,i don't know who does the list but for sure there is something inside.
I guess the list will be changing soon. Perhaps, the next year, that lists will replace by other countries since many people work from home, and that can lead them to try to playing gambling. I don't know what benefits of each one. But the casino will get the benefit.
I have read the couple of posts and yeah that Statistics done in 2017 so there are many changes for the last 3 years.
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Yeah and not just because they are gaining revenue but also what is the effect for those gamblers that has no self control.
When many people get addicted to gambling, that will become a serious matter to the government because it can trigger another problem. The level of crime can also increase, so the government should think much about that.
Yeah and the main objective of the government is to attract gamblers from Outside their countries to become addicted and not their own citizen as what i am viewing the trend.

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December 17, 2020, 02:42:26 PM
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When many people get addicted to gambling, that will become a serious matter to the government because it can trigger another problem. The level of crime can also increase, so the government should think much about that.

In reality, the government has nothing to do with that. The post-gambling effect is a behavior that only a gambler knows.
Some of them don't Know about post-gambling effect because they had been lured just for having fun and not warned about the Bad effect in case.
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Crime related to gambling can't be controlled by the government no matter how strict the regulation is.
I think strict more can limit not totally controlled ,If the Losing amount will be limited then the chance of being engaged into more gambling will be lessen, make the limit depend on the People status and capacity in life,this will be a good action if well implemented ,
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What the government's concern is illegal gambling operators and that's a big problem compared to that gambling behavior related stuff.
If the government is serious? this can be beaten by the government but the problem is even their own people are inside this illegal operation and there is the problem stick .









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December 17, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
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something else to take into consideration is that tourists sometimes have more disposable income and are more willing to spend when travelling abroad them people who live in the country.

anybody knows more websites where we can get reliable stats (like each industry income and revenue) on several sectors besides gambling, separate per country?

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December 17, 2020, 04:09:00 PM
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Yeah and not just because they are gaining revenue but also what is the effect for those gamblers that has no self control.
When many people get addicted to gambling, that will become a serious matter to the government because it can trigger another problem. The level of crime can also increase, so the government should think much about that.
There are cases like that but I think the majority of the crimes are not related to gambling so even if the government focuses on gambling addiction, there would still be a lot of crimes that are actually bigger than gambling-related crimes happening around them. Also, not all who commits crime uses their money for gambling or any other vices. But for those who do such terrible things for gambling, that's already a result of addiction.
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December 17, 2020, 06:41:31 PM
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Yeah and not just because they are gaining revenue but also what is the effect for those gamblers that has no self control.
When many people get addicted to gambling, that will become a serious matter to the government because it can trigger another problem. The level of crime can also increase, so the government should think much about that.
There are cases like that but I think the majority of the crimes are not related to gambling so even if the government focuses on gambling addiction, there would still be a lot of crimes that are actually bigger than gambling-related crimes happening around them. Also, not all who commits crime uses their money for gambling or any other vices. But for those who do such terrible things for gambling, that's already a result of addiction.
Actually this isnt really a solid indication that those criminals are gambling addicted person which means it cant really be blamed off directly because of gambling.
There's no point on making some assumptions that this would really create more problem.I would see its benefit or pro's instead rather than on the negative ones.
We know on whats happening in reality where crimes do happen for whatever reason it is which cant really be avoided yet people do have always that intent in mind but of
course it would really be having a corresponding reason.Its not bad for a country to revert its decision for the sake of benefit for the economy then its never been a bad decision.

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December 17, 2020, 07:42:59 PM
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Yeah and not just because they are gaining revenue but also what is the effect for those gamblers that has no self control.
When many people get addicted to gambling, that will become a serious matter to the government because it can trigger another problem. The level of crime can also increase, so the government should think much about that.
There are cases like that but I think the majority of the crimes are not related to gambling so even if the government focuses on gambling addiction, there would still be a lot of crimes that are actually bigger than gambling-related crimes happening around them. Also, not all who commits crime uses their money for gambling or any other vices. But for those who do such terrible things for gambling, that's already a result of addiction.
Crime related to gambling is out of the chart cause it only occurred when there is no rules and restrictions which casino have to pursue to customer/user that is already gambling addict and if you check all online/physical casino they have the policy to help addicted customer to gamble responsibly.

something else to take into consideration is that tourists sometimes have more disposable income and are more willing to spend when travelling abroad them people who live in the country.

anybody knows more websites where we can get reliable stats (like each industry income and revenue) on several sectors besides gambling, separate per country?
I don't think there is a site that provides such information but which sectors are you saying in particular?

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December 17, 2020, 08:55:26 PM
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why the country name is Macau and Hong Kong,why not called China,Macau and Hong Kong are just two cities in China.
They are special and autonomous region and they are likely called as individual places near to being a country.
Hongkong is much fighting for that freedom that they've been tied with China for a long time.
That's what I understand from these two small places, can't still call it a country although there is a belief that they should be already.
When people think of China, gambling is illegal in China so it's not attractive, in Macau though it's part of China, gambling there is legal. Just like the Vegas, why isn't it listed or called USA, because Vegas is specific and people would easily know where to gamble, that's my thoughts.
That's right and that's why Chinese gamblers are flying to these nearby places to gamble. Some are in Macau and other neighboring Asian countries which gambling is allowed.
Las Vegas is part of USA and it's not a special autonomous region just like Macau, they have different situation. Well, I'll leave that to their history or whatever is cause of that separation or inclusion up to date.

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December 17, 2020, 09:31:39 PM
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something else to take into consideration is that tourists sometimes have more disposable income and are more willing to spend when travelling abroad them people who live in the country.

anybody knows more websites where we can get reliable stats (like each industry income and revenue) on several sectors besides gambling, separate per country?

Naturally, most of the casino profits come from tourists. Especially if we are talking about such large cities with gambling as Macau and Las Vegas. They were created specifically for tourists to come there and leave their money there. Therefore, statistics will differ on how much money casinos received from their citizens and how much money they received from tourists.
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December 18, 2020, 12:33:49 AM
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They certainly have the statistics, but sometimes they will focus on a crime that is more serious, not everyone who commit crimes are related to gambling, so gambling isn't that bad, it's just there are people who really are irresponsible and have become drug addict and they think of committing crime. Usual cause of crime are illegal drugs and alcohol, so gambling is out in the picture because most gamblers are not criminals, meaning people enjoy gambling.

You are right. The government will not waste their time handling someone who doesn't have serious crime, but they can delegate the cases to the officials who have low ranks. I don't say that if someone addict to gambling will commit a crime, some people can do that to other local people. Drugs and alcohol are two serious problems in a city, and many crime cases because of those things.

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The government will know how they should react to that, and they will regulate based on their country's situations. Many changes that we don't know about the statistics, so I am sure that the lists will always change in the future. The government wants to use tourism besides gambling to attract more visitors, whether they invite real tourists or gamblers to come to their country.

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There are cases like that but I think the majority of the crimes are not related to gambling so even if the government focuses on gambling addiction, there would still be a lot of crimes that are actually bigger than gambling-related crimes happening around them. Also, not all who commits crime uses their money for gambling or any other vices. But for those who do such terrible things for gambling, that's already a result of addiction.

Indeed. But still, perhaps, the government needs to focus on gambling addiction and build a rehabilitation center for the addicted person to gambling. At the same time, the government needs to focus and to try to handle the crimes too. Some people use the money from committing crimes for gambling, but we don't know how many of them. It really needs hard work from the government to control the crime of growth rate.
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December 18, 2020, 08:49:54 AM
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have you ever wondered which are the countries where gambling is more popular?

and in which people lose more money for gambling?

this website gives us a clue about it.

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Rank   Country   Gaming Losses Per Adult
1   Australia   $1,288.00
2   Singapore   $1,174.00
3   Ireland   $588.00
4   Canada   $568.00
5   Finland   $553.00
6   Italy   $517.00
7   Hong Kong   $503.00
8   Norway   $448.00
9   Greece   $420.00
10   Spain   $418.00

do you live in any of these countries? it'd be nice to hear more on the opinions of someone who knows the gambling scene on each place.

this other website tell a slightly different story



I never expected Singapore to be on the list but seeing on how that country is full of "fines" whenever you do something not allowed in public might really put people on the edge on how to come up with money. Most countries are really expected to be up on that list since their economic status is fine and casino's are a great help to their economy since every establishment is registered and governed finely.

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December 18, 2020, 08:59:12 AM
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something else to take into consideration is that tourists sometimes have more disposable income and are more willing to spend when travelling abroad them people who live in the country.
Of course that's why they travel just to gamble ,Maybe to apply their freedom as their country has no that much and also try applying their strategy that has been known in their places.
But one is for sure that they are there to make it gambling activities more functional and sustainable in their side.
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anybody knows more websites where we can get reliable stats (like each industry income and revenue) on several sectors besides gambling, separate per country?
But those countries might have a difficult rules in what game they wanna play, so choosing the right one and being aware of the system will save them more.









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December 18, 2020, 09:06:09 AM
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it's obvious that we have different gambling which a country likely to play with seriousness and assurance hoping that they will win, like in my country many people adventure into soccer gambling from eighteen years upwards, which both father and mother go into soccer gambling center to play bet, that does not mean that they have higher rate in gambling, the statistics should have been specified the particular gambling, normally every country are into gambling now so no one can tell the highest gambling country because you have not move around the countries to know the rate other adventure into gambling.
Yeah, in other to put this in different category, there are some country that's basically in the soccer/football prediction as a major gambling priority, while some countries spent much on dice, casino, and slot gambling. In this case, it solely depends on the knowledge one is taught about the genesis of gambling in that country. For instance, in African countries, the only gambling prediction they take part is football which basically its easy and prediction because everyone has a specific club of fan
We don't know if that list is a valid source that gives us the valid list of the 10 countries that gamble the most.
I expected to see Macau or the USA like @TimeTeller says to be the first place on that list.
The list might not be the latest one as I that also matter to categorising most gambling countries in the world. I know clearly of USA as they one of the casino played country in history if I'm not mistaken.
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December 18, 2020, 02:10:26 PM
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Indeed. But still, perhaps, the government needs to focus on gambling addiction and build a rehabilitation center for the addicted person to gambling. At the same time, the government needs to focus and to try to handle the crimes too. Some people use the money from committing crimes for gambling, but we don't know how many of them. It really needs hard work from the government to control the crime of growth rate.

It seems to me that governments need first of all to raise the standard of living of the population in the country, so that people do not rely on gambling as the only way to get rich. Then fewer citizens will gamble for the purpose of earning money. Governments should also create special zones where you can build a casino and control it. Here are the initial steps that should reduce the number of playing citizens.
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December 18, 2020, 03:48:16 PM
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There are cases like that but I think the majority of the crimes are not related to gambling so even if the government focuses on gambling addiction, there would still be a lot of crimes that are actually bigger than gambling-related crimes happening around them. Also, not all who commits crime uses their money for gambling or any other vices. But for those who do such terrible things for gambling, that's already a result of addiction.
Indeed. But still, perhaps, the government needs to focus on gambling addiction and build a rehabilitation center for the addicted person to gambling. At the same time, the government needs to focus and to try to handle the crimes too. Some people use the money from committing crimes for gambling, but we don't know how many of them. It really needs hard work from the government to control the crime of growth rate.
I feel like this is a hard task for the government since they cannot control every action of gamblers. Once a gambler becomes addicted to it, they can commit a crime to satisfy their addiction. Also, gamblers would not admit they are already addicted to it and would not want to be rehabilitated. I don't know if this kind of thing really works but maybe, they can start by organizing something that would educate people of different ages about gambling and addiction.
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December 18, 2020, 09:02:13 PM
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BTW, just out of my curiosity, does this thread counts the illegal gambling of the Countries? or is it only for legal purposes fkr legal gambling?
Anyways, I think it's  not as illegal gambling are way too impossible to count (maybe?) ?

And I think this comes for another discussionLoL
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Indeed. But still, perhaps, the government needs to focus on gambling addiction and build a rehabilitation center for the addicted person to gambling. At the same time, the government needs to focus and to try to handle the crimes too. Some people use the money from committing crimes for gambling, but we don't know how many of them. It really needs hard work from the government to control the crime of growth rate.

It seems to me that governments need first of all to raise the standard of living of the population in the country, so that people do not rely on gambling as the only way to get rich. Then fewer citizens will gamble for the purpose of earning money. Governments should also create special zones where you can build a casino and control it. Here are the initial steps that should reduce the number of playing citizens.

Government wont really be minding out this kind of issue and come to see some countries which are included on 3rd world or developing countries
where there are still casinos that had been built or allowed.

It isn't just right for them to think about their citizens financial state yet its up to someones responsibility on making out some decision neither
he would gamble or not.

Losses in gamble cant really be blamed off into others yet its your money and its your own decision that you had made.

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December 18, 2020, 09:45:08 PM
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Government wont really be minding out this kind of issue and come to see some countries which are included on 3rd world or developing countries
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Well of course,as long as they can get taxes they wouldn't  mind on how you run your business, or whatsoever you can come off with.
Just look at them whenever they can't  put their damn taxes, they are quite aggressive  against it and so does with Online Gambling, most of them sees it as illegal LoL.
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Losses in gamble cant really be blamed off into others yet its your money and its your own decision that you had made.

Of course, we can't shift the blame for the loss of money due to losing in gambling to other people. However, it is worth remembering that if in the country people has very small salaries and casinos are located in easy access, then this pushes they  to try their luck and try to earn a lot of money on gambling to improve their lives..
As a rule, when people have a normal income, they go to the casino from time to time to tickle their nerves.
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December 18, 2020, 10:32:46 PM
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Indeed. But still, perhaps, the government needs to focus on gambling addiction and build a rehabilitation center for the addicted person to gambling. At the same time, the government needs to focus and to try to handle the crimes too. Some people use the money from committing crimes for gambling, but we don't know how many of them. It really needs hard work from the government to control the crime of growth rate.

It seems to me that governments need first of all to raise the standard of living of the population in the country, so that people do not rely on gambling as the only way to get rich. Then fewer citizens will gamble for the purpose of earning money. Governments should also create special zones where you can build a casino and control it. Here are the initial steps that should reduce the number of playing citizens.

Government wont really be minding out this kind of issue and come to see some countries which are included on 3rd world or developing countries
where there are still casinos that had been built or allowed.

It isn't just right for them to think about their citizens financial state yet its up to someones responsibility on making out some decision neither
he would gamble or not.

Losses in gamble cant really be blamed off into others yet its your money and its your own decision that you had made.

If we were going to connect the two scenarios, government implements or allows the operation of the said casinos and the country benefits because of the tax fee of the casino business and this collected taxes are what the country uses to run the state, to sustain the needs of their peope and to build infrastructure that their state needs but in some cases the risk in gambling shouldn't be blamed to the government or to anyone else because its the sole gamblers responsibility on itself.

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