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January 14, 2021, 10:30:54 AM
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Well you really can't beat the casino unless you will be cheating however that's a good option let's just accept the fact that we can't beat the casino well there are people who might be lucky enough but that's very rare case.
Do you Read the OP? or Just posting with no Meaning at all? Those others that Made a winning does not cheat but uses their Skills and Knowledge , Math is Involved at some way though the majority is cheaters .

But we must realized that we are Humans ang gambling is only created by Humans so at some chances it can be beaten though not in all the time.

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January 14, 2021, 11:17:47 AM
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I think I have heard the news in a well-known casino in Asia, where they are cheating the casino together with the banker, they were betting without any money going out, instead, the banker is giving them chips, they were groups in the table, maybe they are doing it in a long time but the bad things is they were caught when an officer of the casino saw the banker giving the guest chips and bets it, they were also monitored in the CCTV for a while then approach by the management and with the guards.
That's yet for these guys no more gambling for a while. I expect the consequences among other things would mean banning from not just that casino but others too.

It is interesting, though, how careless they were in their operation...Anyway, it sets a good example to people who want to cheat the system
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January 14, 2021, 12:04:37 PM
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I think I have heard the news in a well-known casino in Asia, where they are cheating the casino together with the banker, they were betting without any money going out, instead, the banker is giving them chips, they were groups in the table, maybe they are doing it in a long time but the bad things is they were caught when an officer of the casino saw the banker giving the guest chips and bets it, they were also monitored in the CCTV for a while then approach by the management and with the guards.
sounds like an interesting. any article for this? this seems like a big case of fraud of some kind. I'd appreciate if a link to an article is shared.


I don't remember that person but there was a man who programmed slots and included secret combination in it that only he know. By following that combination, he won a lot of money. It happened years, years ago.
Btw at the moment situation has changed. They learnt from mistakes, games are built in a way where you can't mathematically beat it, so in the long term, casino is the winner. Also, if you play online, every casino has a team of risk analysts that carefully keep an eye on your gambling behaviour.

So, during the covid pandemic when real life casinos are closed and online ones are seriously developed with good and almost bug free codes, no one would inspire me to gamble and beat the casino.
are you talking about? Ronald Dale Harris? I've checked google for story about slot machine that has been programmed with secret combination and his name came up. Ronald dale harris is a computer programmer and his job was looking for a flaw on the slot machine software system. reading the link of an article below it sounds like he is the guy you are talking about

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January 14, 2021, 02:03:21 PM
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Here's the thing, these people here didn't juat knew how to cheat on a casino after a feverish night. No, they painstakingly trained themselves and researched on the ups and downs of the business in order to win and to cheat without getting caught. And more often than not, knowing how good casinos are at catching black-footed people, they will most likely get banned. So if you want to be banned in several houses with no hope to ever play in there again, then becoming a gambling pro is your best bet.

Precisely, cheating on gambling or specifically cheating on casino didn't learn by just sitting on the game in one night. These for me are considered as a skill of the gambler that requires to be enhanced, and train well to be able to execute these type of cheating. But at the same time it also need to have a strong guts to execute it since it is cheating and the probable to get caught while doing it was a lot more intense to be think of.
It indeed requires skills and effort just to beat the casinos and they are blessed to have such great skills and knowledge to execute those cheating methods they have. But no matter how smart they are, that's still cheating and for sure there will be someone smarter than them who can catch them. If a gambler is continuously winning big time, the casino will be suspicious about it and will strictly monitor every action of the gambler, and that's probably how they get caught. But other gamblers on the list still manage to win a huge amount of money even without cheating, they also used their skills and knowledge in a fair manner. Still, it's their choice to cheat so they should face the consequences like not being able to gamble again when caught.
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January 14, 2021, 02:33:02 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't think there are some legitimate methods to beat the casino, usually such gamblers use fraud methods. As far as I know no one hasn't made it with honest way and luck so it's not good to keep people in belief that is possible.

The only legitimate method is through luck and the right mindset but just playing will not give you a lot of wins the other method of course is through cheating but like all the people listed here, they are all caught, publicized, and banned from casinos premises, they can still try their luck on online gambling but they cannot cheat the system, they have to tey other methods.

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January 14, 2021, 02:33:25 PM
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Here's the thing, these people here didn't juat knew how to cheat on a casino after a feverish night. No, they painstakingly trained themselves and researched on the ups and downs of the business in order to win and to cheat without getting caught. And more often than not, knowing how good casinos are at catching black-footed people, they will most likely get banned. So if you want to be banned in several houses with no hope to ever play in there again, then becoming a gambling pro is your best bet.

Precisely, cheating on gambling or specifically cheating on casino didn't learn by just sitting on the game in one night. These for me are considered as a skill of the gambler that requires to be enhanced, and train well to be able to execute these type of cheating. But at the same time it also need to have a strong guts to execute it since it is cheating and the probable to get caught while doing it was a lot more intense to be think of.
That person will still try his "secret method" to test if that will work or it needs to modify. If his "secret method" works, he will use it for some time to win and make money. But if the casino suspicious and want to know how he can win many times, the casino will find out, and if the casino knows that person cheat on their place, they will ban and block his account without any chance to withdraw his win money. It is too risky, but some of them still trying to do that thing.

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January 14, 2021, 04:55:44 PM
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Here's the thing, these people here didn't juat knew how to cheat on a casino after a feverish night. No, they painstakingly trained themselves and researched on the ups and downs of the business in order to win and to cheat without getting caught. And more often than not, knowing how good casinos are at catching black-footed people, they will most likely get banned. So if you want to be banned in several houses with no hope to ever play in there again, then becoming a gambling pro is your best bet.

Precisely, cheating on gambling or specifically cheating on casino didn't learn by just sitting on the game in one night. These for me are considered as a skill of the gambler that requires to be enhanced, and train well to be able to execute these type of cheating. But at the same time it also need to have a strong guts to execute it since it is cheating and the probable to get caught while doing it was a lot more intense to be think of.
That person will still try his "secret method" to test if that will work or it needs to modify. If his "secret method" works, he will use it for some time to win and make money. But if the casino suspicious and want to know how he can win many times, the casino will find out, and if the casino knows that person cheat on their place, they will ban and block his account without any chance to withdraw his win money. It is too risky, but some of them still trying to do that thing.


Don't you think most of these guys who tried cheating casino were once casino owners?

There had been several instances were the house just bann then because of IP adress and i think for these cheaters to learn how to do it, they must have learned the back ends of these casino. Its not just having a strategy to cheat the casino but they also learn from the inside.



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January 14, 2021, 08:25:03 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't think there are some legitimate methods to beat the casino, usually such gamblers use fraud methods. As far as I know no one hasn't made it with honest way and luck so it's not good to keep people in belief that is possible.

The only legitimate method is through luck and the right mindset but just playing will not give you a lot of wins the other method of course is through cheating but like all the people listed here, they are all caught, publicized, and banned from casinos premises, they can still try their luck on online gambling but they cannot cheat the system, they have to tey other methods.
You cant apply those cheats that you had made on physical casinos into an online one which means to those cheaters who do get used to on point interaction games will really be finding other places
on where they can cheat on but to know that they had been blacklisted or been caught then you would really be a hard time on finding one.
Getting money by off these means is really not ethical and its just normal for casino owners to do those appropriate actions because this is a business
and losing much of money or revenue due to player been cheating would really be a big issue.

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January 14, 2021, 09:06:18 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't think there are some legitimate methods to beat the casino, usually such gamblers use fraud methods. As far as I know no one hasn't made it with honest way and luck so it's not good to keep people in belief that is possible.

The only legitimate method is through luck and the right mindset but just playing will not give you a lot of wins the other method of course is through cheating but like all the people listed here, they are all caught, publicized, and banned from casinos premises, they can still try their luck on online gambling but they cannot cheat the system, they have to tey other methods.

Only luck will not get you to big winning or this might be just an exception. Cheating is the only way but that also doesn't give results over night and it takes a lot to get known the system. However, this is illegal and I'm strongly against such methods. Besides, that can never last for long and sooner or later they'll get busted.
I'm also against with cheating and he should face the consequences of being a cheater. It's not a skill that is based on your character so cheating shouldn't be tolerated on different kind of games. Many people have lost their money and some of their futures have been ruined, it's very unfair if you'll fight hsing cheats.
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Unfortunately, I don't think there are some legitimate methods to beat the casino, usually such gamblers use fraud methods. As far as I know no one hasn't made it with honest way and luck so it's not good to keep people in belief that is possible.

The only legitimate method is through luck and the right mindset but just playing will not give you a lot of wins the other method of course is through cheating but like all the people listed here, they are all caught, publicized, and banned from casinos premises, they can still try their luck on online gambling but they cannot cheat the system, they have to tey other methods.

Only luck will not get you to big winning or this might be just an exception. Cheating is the only way but that also doesn't give results over night and it takes a lot to get known the system. However, this is illegal and I'm strongly against such methods. Besides, that can never last for long and sooner or later they'll get busted.
I'm also against with cheating and he should face the consequences of being a cheater. It's not a skill that is based on your character so cheating shouldn't be tolerated on different kind of games. Many people have lost their money and some of their futures have been ruined, it's very unfair if you'll fight hsing cheats.
Be fair and square but there are people who do have intent to take advantage via cheating and it is really not a good thing not only in gambling but in all sorts
of things in life.Its never good to take advantage just because you do know on how to cheat up the system.Its true that there are lots who do ruined up their
lives because of gambling but i dont think it would be right for you to mentioned in out because once you do deal with gambling then you are
basically accepting the risk.Beating up casino through cheating isnt counted because it hadnt been gained in a right way.

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Unfortunately, I don't think there are some legitimate methods to beat the casino, usually such gamblers use fraud methods. As far as I know no one hasn't made it with honest way and luck so it's not good to keep people in belief that is possible.

The only legitimate method is through luck and the right mindset but just playing will not give you a lot of wins the other method of course is through cheating but like all the people listed here, they are all caught, publicized, and banned from casinos premises, they can still try their luck on online gambling but they cannot cheat the system, they have to tey other methods.

Good thing with online casino, nobody is above the security when it's not really an explorer. Of course there's few of them who desires to cheat or dig deeper into the system of a gambling casino, because in my perception their firewall is really hard to break. Most probably cheats happened on localized Casino that doesn't use online method but rare cases only found on defective machines.
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January 14, 2021, 11:20:07 PM
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A funny selection, but I can't say that any of them did something extraordinary. In fact, such scams occur everywhere - in any business where there is cash or electronic means of payment. And personally, in my opinion, the most successful scammers were not caught (this is quite logical) and they should be looked for among those who suddenly became rich "accidentally" by winning at a casino or a bookmaker.

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Unfortunately, I don't think there are some legitimate methods to beat the casino, usually such gamblers use fraud methods. As far as I know no one hasn't made it with honest way and luck so it's not good to keep people in belief that is possible.

The only legitimate method is through luck and the right mindset but just playing will not give you a lot of wins the other method of course is through cheating but like all the people listed here, they are all caught, publicized, and banned from casinos premises, they can still try their luck on online gambling but they cannot cheat the system, they have to tey other methods.
It possible to make huge winning in gambling just through luck but the gambler needs to understand the rules of the game which I believe will help his mindset and understanding the genuine of the game concept.
Let's use Richard Marcus (who is among the gambler who manage to beat the casino) as an example. He lost a lot and sleep under the bridge when he's yet to understand the game rules which hinder him from creating his cheating strategy.

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January 15, 2021, 02:21:48 AM
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It possible to make huge winning in gambling just through luck but the gambler needs to understand the rules of the game which I believe will help his mindset and understanding the genuine of the game concept.
Let's use Richard Marcus (who is among the gambler who manage to beat the casino) as an example. He lost a lot and sleep under the bridge when he's yet to understand the game rules which hinder him from creating his cheating strategy.

Many people don't realize that their luck will not always come to them every time they play gambling. They are still playing gambling and spend more money just because they want to see they can win with their luck. Instead of controlling their mind not to playing gambling for more, they try to use different methods or cheating strategies because they really want to win. That is a good lesson for us, so we don't have to think much about using the cheat strategy because we know the consequences by using that strategy.
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January 15, 2021, 02:53:31 AM
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Here's the thing, these people here didn't juat knew how to cheat on a casino after a feverish night. No, they painstakingly trained themselves and researched on the ups and downs of the business in order to win and to cheat without getting caught. And more often than not, knowing how good casinos are at catching black-footed people, they will most likely get banned. So if you want to be banned in several houses with no hope to ever play in there again, then becoming a gambling pro is your best bet.

Precisely, cheating on gambling or specifically cheating on casino didn't learn by just sitting on the game in one night. These for me are considered as a skill of the gambler that requires to be enhanced, and train well to be able to execute these type of cheating. But at the same time it also need to have a strong guts to execute it since it is cheating and the probable to get caught while doing it was a lot more intense to be think of.
That person will still try his "secret method" to test if that will work or it needs to modify. If his "secret method" works, he will use it for some time to win and make money. But if the casino suspicious and want to know how he can win many times, the casino will find out, and if the casino knows that person cheat on their place, they will ban and block his account without any chance to withdraw his win money. It is too risky, but some of them still trying to do that thing.

Better to try to take the risk, as one good win do counts when you are developing patterns to cheat out with gambling sites.

like the post above you it's not something that being done in a night of playing, but it's a continuous efforts of finding ways to cheat out and try to win against the house.

There's always a risk where  house facilitator will caught you doing this action,
but cheaters always find the best way to come-out clean and take the slice of house earnings.


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January 15, 2021, 03:49:57 AM
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Here's the thing, these people here didn't juat knew how to cheat on a casino after a feverish night. No, they painstakingly trained themselves and researched on the ups and downs of the business in order to win and to cheat without getting caught. And more often than not, knowing how good casinos are at catching black-footed people, they will most likely get banned. So if you want to be banned in several houses with no hope to ever play in there again, then becoming a gambling pro is your best bet.

Precisely, cheating on gambling or specifically cheating on casino didn't learn by just sitting on the game in one night. These for me are considered as a skill of the gambler that requires to be enhanced, and train well to be able to execute these type of cheating. But at the same time it also need to have a strong guts to execute it since it is cheating and the probable to get caught while doing it was a lot more intense to be think of.
That person will still try his "secret method" to test if that will work or it needs to modify. If his "secret method" works, he will use it for some time to win and make money. But if the casino suspicious and want to know how he can win many times, the casino will find out, and if the casino knows that person cheat on their place, they will ban and block his account without any chance to withdraw his win money. It is too risky, but some of them still trying to do that thing.
Of course he will use that method to win as if this is not gambling talks lol.

Kidding aside mate , casinos now are very Hightech and can detect each method we will perform , yeah we can win in short time but sooner ? they will find out and surely blocked our method or the worst will banned us , they will point issues and we have bnothing to do against them.

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January 15, 2021, 04:44:58 AM
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Don't you think most of these guys who tried cheating casino were once casino owners?

There had been several instances were the house just bann then because of IP adress and i think for these cheaters to learn how to do it, they must have learned the back ends of these casino. Its not just having a strategy to cheat the casino but they also learn from the inside.
I do not know about that because I am not a casino owner. At least, if those people got a ban from the casino, they can find the other way to still playing gambling on that casino. Or they can search for another casino that does not ban them, so they can continue playing gambling. If about getting ban from the casino, most gamblers know how to back to the site, but to cheat the casino, that will be only a few people who will know how to cheat the casino.

Better to try to take the risk, as one good win do counts when you are developing patterns to cheat out with gambling sites.

like the post above you it's not something that being done in a night of playing, but it's a continuous efforts of finding ways to cheat out and try to win against the house.

There's always a risk where  house facilitator will caught you doing this action,
but cheaters always find the best way to come-out clean and take the slice of house earnings.
Some people will try to take the risk, but for the other, they will not do that because they care with their account. If they still want to test their method, they will try it to find which "method" that will work to win on that game, and maybe they will know how to modify the "method." The worst risk that we can get is banning our IP if they found us cheat their game and system. But I think they will have the other way to still back on that site.

Of course he will use that method to win as if this is not gambling talks lol.

Kidding aside mate , casinos now are very Hightech and can detect each method we will perform , yeah we can win in short time but sooner ? they will find out and surely blocked our method or the worst will banned us , they will point issues and we have bnothing to do against them.
Yes, the casino will not stand idly by seeing cheating happening on their site, and they will search for what is happening and maybe they will investigate the case. But the first thing that the casino will do is block the account of those people, so they can not play gambling while the casino investigate.

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January 15, 2021, 08:28:04 AM
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A funny selection, but I can't say that any of them did something extraordinary. In fact, such scams occur everywhere - in any business where there is cash or electronic means of payment. And personally, in my opinion, the most successful scammers were not caught (this is quite logical) and they should be looked for among those who suddenly became rich "accidentally" by winning at a casino or a bookmaker.

Referring to your last line, isn't that the purpose of gambling though? To hit one big win and win instantly and be rich overnight?! I think most of the players who got rich overnight in gambling are the ones who are not scammers lmao. Because scammers in general don't try to win one big, they try to hide their scamming techniques and try to slowly scam profits which will escape the radar instead of winning one big and getting all the attention and scrutiny!
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January 15, 2021, 08:41:16 AM
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What? They are all cheaters!

I will be agreeing with some of the most popular gamblers that construct strategies to some games that are banned right now in most of the casinos. This list just proves that most of the time if we wanted to beat the casino or the house, you need an accomplice, tricks and cheats, or maybe some exploits to machines that the casino is using.
Yeah, cheaters are cheaters and that is not a good thing to be, it is still better to idolize those gamble who became rich with their skills and knowledge in the world of gambling, you can do that without any cheating, just spend your time learning a certain game in gambling that you want to get focused, there are still some game that gives you an advantage if your skills or knowledge about it.

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January 15, 2021, 09:44:14 AM
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What? They are all cheaters!

I will be agreeing with some of the most popular gamblers that construct strategies to some games that are banned right now in most of the casinos. This list just proves that most of the time if we wanted to beat the casino or the house, you need an accomplice, tricks and cheats, or maybe some exploits to machines that the casino is using.
Yeah, cheaters are cheaters and that is not a good thing to be, it is still better to idolize those gamble who became rich with their skills and knowledge in the world of gambling, you can do that without any cheating, just spend your time learning a certain game in gambling that you want to get focused, there are still some game that gives you an advantage if your skills or knowledge about it.
I wouldn't also do that, just cheating because of the money you will earn, that's not a good idea. That's pure greed because of taking advantage of the casino house edge for your own benefits. It is also risky if the gambling site will be caught you, it will surely freeze your fund.

It gives courage to us especially those people who won on the mega lotto jackpot, which is a huge amount, it's pure luck, not skills needed just luck. Rather than these cheaters which is we can consider cancer of the gambling industry.

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