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January 15, 2021, 10:49:07 AM
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A funny selection, but I can't say that any of them did something extraordinary. In fact, such scams occur everywhere - in any business where there is cash or electronic means of payment. And personally, in my opinion, the most successful scammers were not caught (this is quite logical) and they should be looked for among those who suddenly became rich "accidentally" by winning at a casino or a bookmaker.

Referring to your last line, isn't that the purpose of gambling though? To hit one big win and win instantly and be rich overnight?! I think most of the players who got rich overnight in gambling are the ones who are not scammers lmao. Because scammers in general don't try to win one big, they try to hide their scamming techniques and try to slowly scam profits which will escape the radar instead of winning one big and getting all the attention and scrutiny!

Yep, that looks much more realistic, imo. But actually I'm wondering are there any casino cheaters today? All stories I can find are old,  the slot machine hack by a Russian team in 2014 being the newest one. It seems to me that some measures have been taken to prevent casino cheating and it has become impossible since 5 years ago or so.

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January 15, 2021, 10:59:35 AM
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A funny selection, but I can't say that any of them did something extraordinary. In fact, such scams occur everywhere - in any business where there is cash or electronic means of payment. And personally, in my opinion, the most successful scammers were not caught (this is quite logical) and they should be looked for among those who suddenly became rich "accidentally" by winning at a casino or a bookmaker.

Referring to your last line, isn't that the purpose of gambling though? To hit one big win and win instantly and be rich overnight?! I think most of the players who got rich overnight in gambling are the ones who are not scammers lmao. Because scammers in general don't try to win one big, they try to hide their scamming techniques and try to slowly scam profits which will escape the radar instead of winning one big and getting all the attention and scrutiny!

Yep, that looks much more realistic, imo. But actually I'm wondering are there any casino cheaters today? All stories I can find are old,  the slot machine hack by a Russian team in 2014 being the newest one. It seems to me that some measures have been taken to prevent casino cheating and it has become impossible since 5 years ago or so.

Maybe there are few but it does not affect casinos profitability so much so they don't feel it. Land based casinos nowadays are hard to cheat, they have cameras everywhere and we can tell that they have a very sophisticated securities, they invested big money for that to protect their business and I guess the industry are sharing their secrets to ensure no cheaters will succeed in taking advantage of their business.

On the other hand, there are some cheats online, it's prone like an exchange prone to hack.

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January 15, 2021, 03:04:46 PM
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A funny selection, but I can't say that any of them did something extraordinary. In fact, such scams occur everywhere - in any business where there is cash or electronic means of payment. And personally, in my opinion, the most successful scammers were not caught (this is quite logical) and they should be looked for among those who suddenly became rich "accidentally" by winning at a casino or a bookmaker.

Referring to your last line, isn't that the purpose of gambling though? To hit one big win and win instantly and be rich overnight?! I think most of the players who got rich overnight in gambling are the ones who are not scammers lmao. Because scammers in general don't try to win one big, they try to hide their scamming techniques and try to slowly scam profits which will escape the radar instead of winning one big and getting all the attention and scrutiny!

Yep, that looks much more realistic, imo. But actually I'm wondering are there any casino cheaters today? All stories I can find are old,  the slot machine hack by a Russian team in 2014 being the newest one. It seems to me that some measures have been taken to prevent casino cheating and it has become impossible since 5 years ago or so.

Maybe there are few but it does not affect casinos profitability so much so they don't feel it. Land based casinos nowadays are hard to cheat, they have cameras everywhere and we can tell that they have a very sophisticated securities, they invested big money for that to protect their business and I guess the industry are sharing their secrets to ensure no cheaters will succeed in taking advantage of their business.

On the other hand, there are some cheats online, it's prone like an exchange prone to hack.

Cheaters well definitely make a way to cheat and that's why casino business owners should really invest big money for the security purposes. But yeah, land based casinos nowadays have many cameras scattered in their perimeter and some other casino business also shared their tactics on how to prevent casino cheaters hacked. However cheating was a relevant concern which primarily concern to online casino which i bet every online casino should prioritize.

Base on my experience of just having a good time with the casino getting curious what is the ambiance want to play around and observe ( I just went to a casino lurking around nothing to do. This happens mostly). When I try to check it out some of the cameras are not too much catchy on the eyes like they are just simple holes in a desk or any part of the building and some of those are a camera.

I just wondering HOW MANY monitors and cameras they are watching in the Security room to observe a suspicious activity of a player.

Also what are the things they do after they caught a cheater on their casino. Is this the same with the movies? Just curious.

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January 15, 2021, 03:50:52 PM
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A funny selection, but I can't say that any of them did something extraordinary. In fact, such scams occur everywhere - in any business where there is cash or electronic means of payment. And personally, in my opinion, the most successful scammers were not caught (this is quite logical) and they should be looked for among those who suddenly became rich "accidentally" by winning at a casino or a bookmaker.

Referring to your last line, isn't that the purpose of gambling though? To hit one big win and win instantly and be rich overnight?! I think most of the players who got rich overnight in gambling are the ones who are not scammers lmao. Because scammers in general don't try to win one big, they try to hide their scamming techniques and try to slowly scam profits which will escape the radar instead of winning one big and getting all the attention and scrutiny!

Yep, that looks much more realistic, imo. But actually I'm wondering are there any casino cheaters today? All stories I can find are old,  the slot machine hack by a Russian team in 2014 being the newest one. It seems to me that some measures have been taken to prevent casino cheating and it has become impossible since 5 years ago or so.

Maybe there are few but it does not affect casinos profitability so much so they don't feel it. Land based casinos nowadays are hard to cheat, they have cameras everywhere and we can tell that they have a very sophisticated securities, they invested big money for that to protect their business and I guess the industry are sharing their secrets to ensure no cheaters will succeed in taking advantage of their business.

On the other hand, there are some cheats online, it's prone like an exchange prone to hack.

Cheaters well definitely make a way to cheat and that's why casino business owners should really invest big money for the security purposes. But yeah, land based casinos nowadays have many cameras scattered in their perimeter and some other casino business also shared their tactics on how to prevent casino cheaters hacked. However cheating was a relevant concern which primarily concern to online casino which i bet every online casino should prioritize.

Base on my experience of just having a good time with the casino getting curious what is the ambiance want to play around and observe ( I just went to a casino lurking around nothing to do. This happens mostly). When I try to check it out some of the cameras are not too much catchy on the eyes like they are just simple holes in a desk or any part of the building and some of those are a camera.

I just wondering HOW MANY monitors and cameras they are watching in the Security room to observe a suspicious activity of a player.

Also what are the things they do after they caught a cheater on their casino. Is this the same with the movies? Just curious.

I haven't been gone to the Land Based Casino and i have just know from you mate that some cameras were built in some desk or any part of the area which are not visible and couldn't be classified as camera. I am also curious how the cctv room personnel manage to look for any detail of every camera catched. Well maybe there is not only one personnel in there and maybe they have their certain cameras that they are specified to look upon.
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January 15, 2021, 11:09:22 PM
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A funny selection, but I can't say that any of them did something extraordinary. In fact, such scams occur everywhere - in any business where there is cash or electronic means of payment. And personally, in my opinion, the most successful scammers were not caught (this is quite logical) and they should be looked for among those who suddenly became rich "accidentally" by winning at a casino or a bookmaker.

Referring to your last line, isn't that the purpose of gambling though? To hit one big win and win instantly and be rich overnight?! I think most of the players who got rich overnight in gambling are the ones who are not scammers lmao. Because scammers in general don't try to win one big, they try to hide their scamming techniques and try to slowly scam profits which will escape the radar instead of winning one big and getting all the attention and scrutiny!

I only speculated about the lucky scammers. Of course, most of the people who hit the jackpot are honest players. But this is exactly what makes sense - the easiest way is to hide among honest people, therefore, in my opinion, this method of legalizing money as a big win is very suitable for fraudsters.

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January 16, 2021, 07:38:27 AM
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What? They are all cheaters!

I will be agreeing with some of the most popular gamblers that construct strategies to some games that are banned right now in most of the casinos. This list just proves that most of the time if we wanted to beat the casino or the house, you need an accomplice, tricks and cheats, or maybe some exploits to machines that the casino is using.
Yeah, cheaters are cheaters and that is not a good thing to be, it is still better to idolize those gamble who became rich with their skills and knowledge in the world of gambling, you can do that without any cheating, just spend your time learning a certain game in gambling that you want to get focused, there are still some game that gives you an advantage if your skills or knowledge about it.
Definitely you will become rich without doing any cheating , in the world of gambling only the owner will become rich and team. The players yes let say they become rich also but some of them only like getting jackpot prize in casinor or maybe they win on the lottery who is very little percentage to happen. But cheating is not the answer to become rich a person have skills or without can have business to gain more money.

But would that be the same reaction of other people?

I know cheating is bad but there are a lot of people that are cheating in order to lift themselves up. We may think that cheating is bad but other people would still use it and continue using it as long as they are earning money. Because at the end of the day, people are still gambling for the sake of earning a lot of money and cheating can give them a huge amount of it.
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January 16, 2021, 08:11:16 AM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich. There are many gamblers who manage to beat the casino but at the present time the crowd at the casino has decreased a bit. This does not mean that gambling addiction has decreased except for a handful of people everyone's income is now lower than usual as many people as come to play in the casino have been cheated and left the game.
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January 16, 2021, 11:46:00 AM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich.
Even you are good at gambling, with a full of knowledge but it can't be enough to make you rich in here. You got millions but actually, you lose millions also before you won the jackpot. If you have the tally of your bets, your gambling losses, it for sure you can notice that.

There are many gamblers who manage to beat the casino but at the present time the crowd at the casino has decreased a bit. This does not mean that gambling addiction has decreased except for a handful of people everyone's income is now lower than usual as many people as come to play in the casino have been cheated and left the game.
Some gamblers do cheating because they think that this is a way for them to win. Not exactly they are thinking right but somehow, they got successful. They are knowledgeable enough TBH, that is a reason why they beat the casino. But I don't think if this is still possible in the modern times.



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January 16, 2021, 12:01:00 PM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich. There are many gamblers who manage to beat the casino but at the present time the crowd at the casino has decreased a bit. This does not mean that gambling addiction has decreased except for a handful of people everyone's income is now lower than usual as many people as come to play in the casino have been cheated and left the game.
I think right now no have any way for cheating with gambling site but still have ideas if you are playing with your friend and get cheating trick, I am looking maybe some gambling site have bug how to get cheat and always win, right now we always make as income money for gambling site almost every day we give them much money with lost when betting. How come if we get back our money from gambling site and getting their bug on website, last time I got gambling site when betting soccer but not update and have separated time between gambling site and match begin.

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January 16, 2021, 02:08:23 PM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich. There are many gamblers who manage to beat the casino but at the present time the crowd at the casino has decreased a bit. This does not mean that gambling addiction has decreased except for a handful of people everyone's income is now lower than usual as many people as come to play in the casino have been cheated and left the game.

I don't think that you could become rich just by applying your knowledge if we will be talking about gambling. I think you can win for some time and if you can manage those winnings well like starting a business and doing well on that, that could be something but still, you didn't beat the casino. You just used or managed your winnings well the reason you are rich.

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January 16, 2021, 02:46:46 PM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich.
Even you are good at gambling, with a full of knowledge but it can't be enough to make you rich in here. You got millions but actually, you lose millions also before you won the jackpot. If you have the tally of your bets, your gambling losses, it for sure you can notice that.

We can say that we have full knowledge, but if we don't have luck, that will not work. At least, the chance of luck will give us more chances to win. Perhaps, we already see some gamblers who know many techniques of playing gambling, but they don't have luck, then they can't win. And the worst is they are losing their money without a chance to win the money. If you are trying to cheat the casino, that can work for some time, which doesn't always work. If you want to cheat the casino, you don't have to do that too often because they can be aware of that and try to find the cheater.
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January 16, 2021, 03:17:34 PM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich. There are many gamblers who manage to beat the casino but at the present time the crowd at the casino has decreased a bit. This does not mean that gambling addiction has decreased except for a handful of people everyone's income is now lower than usual as many people as come to play in the casino have been cheated and left the game.

I don't think that you could become rich just by applying your knowledge if we will be talking about gambling. I think you can win for some time and if you can manage those winnings well like starting a business and doing well on that, that could be something but still, you didn't beat the casino. You just used or managed your winnings well the reason you are rich.
Very few people successfully managed to invest their winnings from gambling.All the others even the ne who won lotteries just spend the money it get exhausted then they will get back to their day job. You guys heard a most popular story? a sanitory worker won millions in lottery but after few years he came back to the same work when he lost all the money back in the same gambling.









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January 16, 2021, 03:31:25 PM
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Luck can be on everyone's side, I believe everybody has a chance to be extremely lucky in life. Regarding money though, luck is not enough because risk management and great planning make the difference between rich and poor people. Whenever luck strikes you, say thanks and get your turn back at her or you may end up losing everything!
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January 16, 2021, 10:55:50 PM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich. There are many gamblers who manage to beat the casino but at the present time the crowd at the casino has decreased a bit. This does not mean that gambling addiction has decreased except for a handful of people everyone's income is now lower than usual as many people as come to play in the casino have been cheated and left the game.

I don't think that you could become rich just by applying your knowledge if we will be talking about gambling. I think you can win for some time and if you can manage those winnings well like starting a business and doing well on that, that could be something but still, you didn't beat the casino. You just used or managed your winnings well the reason you are rich.
Very few people successfully managed to invest their winnings from gambling.All the others even the ne who won lotteries just spend the money it get exhausted then they will get back to their day job. You guys heard a most popular story? a sanitory worker won millions in lottery but after few years he came back to the same work when he lost all the money back in the same gambling.

Yeah, I've heard of that. As far as I know, there is this curse about lottery winners where they mysteriously die or be in this situation that would lose all of the money they've won and just get back to where they started. Still, there are those few that actually managed their money well like someone I knew here in the province.

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January 17, 2021, 12:53:39 AM
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Is cheating in gambling allowed?

There should be persecuted for cheat and others who have same intentions will learn their lesson. If it continues then he gambling system will be messed up .

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January 17, 2021, 02:34:57 AM
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Luck can be on everyone's side, I believe everybody has a chance to be extremely lucky in life. Regarding money though, luck is not enough because risk management and great planning make the difference between rich and poor people. Whenever luck strikes you, say thanks and get your turn back at her or you may end up losing everything!

Yes, they can have lucky in life, and I believe that they will get lucky many times. But in gambling, I am not sure if they can repeatedly get lucky every time they play gambling. Yes, you are right, when the luck comes, and you can win the money, you need to stop playing gambling because we never know if you can win again in the next round. Before we lose the chance to stop, we need to quit gambling as soon as possible, so we can save the money and withdraw it into our wallet.

Is cheating in gambling allowed?

There should be persecuted for cheat and others who have same intentions will learn their lesson. If it continues then he gambling system will be messed up .

Cheating in gambling is not allowed, but some gambler cheats the game to win. Not many people can get lucky while they cheat because that needs something to win. You could get ban by the site if they caught you cheat the game.
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January 17, 2021, 04:10:04 AM
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Is cheating in gambling allowed?

There should be persecuted for cheat and others who have same intentions will learn their lesson. If it continues then he gambling system will be messed up .
No.

But it wouldn't messed up. Casinos have their own way of detecting cheaters through their anti cheat system.

And the people who are on the list broke the traditional games on casino.



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January 17, 2021, 06:16:51 AM
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The cheating thing is very bad gambling for cheating is rich but if you have no idea about the game then it brings danger later on therefore you have to master the gambling techniques by applying your knowledge and intellect it will not require cheating and will easily become rich. There are many gamblers who manage to beat the casino but at the present time the crowd at the casino has decreased a bit. This does not mean that gambling addiction has decreased except for a handful of people everyone's income is now lower than usual as many people as come to play in the casino have been cheated and left the game.
Cheating is indeed one of the worst thing in crypto industry whether the player is cheating the casino or it is the other way around.

I don't know how one can beat the casino in the long run because lets be honest we have all gambled and how many of us can say we are in profit? I think none of us are in profit and that is because if you wager 100 dollars then you are expected to lose 1 dollar if the house edge is 1% which is the standard for most crypto casinos. Now there is a healthy chance that you still managed to win but that would be hard to replicate regularly no matter what strategy you use and how smart you are.

There ain't a way of beating the casino without cheating it so some players will always find holes in the casino while others will keep losing and casino will still remain in profits.
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January 17, 2021, 10:04:21 AM
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What? They are all cheaters!

I will be agreeing with some of the most popular gamblers that construct strategies to some games that are banned right now in most of the casinos. This list just proves that most of the time if we wanted to beat the casino or the house, you need an accomplice, tricks and cheats, or maybe some exploits to machines that the casino is using.
Yeah, cheaters are cheaters and that is not a good thing to be, it is still better to idolize those gamble who became rich with their skills and knowledge in the world of gambling, you can do that without any cheating, just spend your time learning a certain game in gambling that you want to get focused, there are still some game that gives you an advantage if your skills or knowledge about it.
Definitely you will become rich without doing any cheating , in the world of gambling only the owner will become rich and team. The players yes let say they become rich also but some of them only like getting jackpot prize in casinor or maybe they win on the lottery who is very little percentage to happen. But cheating is not the answer to become rich a person have skills or without can have business to gain more money.

But would that be the same reaction of other people?

I know cheating is bad but there are a lot of people that are cheating in order to lift themselves up. We may think that cheating is bad but other people would still use it and continue using it as long as they are earning money. Because at the end of the day, people are still gambling for the sake of earning a lot of money and cheating can give them a huge amount of it.

Cheating is cheating and yeah it is bad, it is somewhat you are using some people's weakness to lift up yourselves. Bit at some point we couldn't blame those people who choose to cheat because if they think it was only the easiest way for them to earn high profit. Everyone wants to have or to earn a high profit but we do also have our own strategies in life to be able to met our daily needs, to sustain the needs of our family and so on.

There are those people.

These people either needed the money so badly or they just want to earn a lot of money by cheating the syatems of these casinos or gambling sites. It might be true that they can earn a lot of money from it but they could sacrifice their lives and went to life inside bars and if they are not caught, that will live in their conscience as long as they are alive.
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January 17, 2021, 10:22:32 AM
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What? They are all cheaters!

I will be agreeing with some of the most popular gamblers that construct strategies to some games that are banned right now in most of the casinos. This list just proves that most of the time if we wanted to beat the casino or the house, you need an accomplice, tricks and cheats, or maybe some exploits to machines that the casino is using.
Yeah, cheaters are cheaters and that is not a good thing to be, it is still better to idolize those gamble who became rich with their skills and knowledge in the world of gambling, you can do that without any cheating, just spend your time learning a certain game in gambling that you want to get focused, there are still some game that gives you an advantage if your skills or knowledge about it.
Definitely you will become rich without doing any cheating , in the world of gambling only the owner will become rich and team. The players yes let say they become rich also but some of them only like getting jackpot prize in casinor or maybe they win on the lottery who is very little percentage to happen. But cheating is not the answer to become rich a person have skills or without can have business to gain more money.

But would that be the same reaction of other people?

I know cheating is bad but there are a lot of people that are cheating in order to lift themselves up. We may think that cheating is bad but other people would still use it and continue using it as long as they are earning money. Because at the end of the day, people are still gambling for the sake of earning a lot of money and cheating can give them a huge amount of it.

Cheating is cheating and yeah it is bad, it is somewhat you are using some people's weakness to lift up yourselves. Bit at some point we couldn't blame those people who choose to cheat because if they think it was only the easiest way for them to earn high profit. Everyone wants to have or to earn a high profit but we do also have our own strategies in life to be able to met our daily needs, to sustain the needs of our family and so on.

There are those people.

These people either needed the money so badly or they just want to earn a lot of money by cheating the syatems of these casinos or gambling sites. It might be true that they can earn a lot of money from it but they could sacrifice their lives and went to life inside bars and if they are not caught, that will live in their conscience as long as they are alive.

If you look objectively at these people there is no big difference between stealing from the casino or the bank. A bank robber also looks for easy money and is willing to do whatever necessary and accepting the consequences. Stealing ATMs became very common in my country, its done at night without violence or guns. No one getting hurt except the insurance companies. Cheating the casino has similar effects and there can also be jail time in the end. Or bring blacklisted from casinos for the rest of your life.
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