The gambler who manages to beat the casino through cheating

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They've able to find the tweak and enjoy the benefits before they've been caught by the casino owners. It's cheating as most of them played illegally or use something that not allowed from the house.

Cheating is cheating, regardless of its form and reason for doing it. I am not saying that it is right to do it for the first time, but they could at least regret it and refrain from doing it again, and maybe that could make it less of crime. But, as you have said that when cheaters went greedy enough to do it over and over again, that is on another level of cheating and crime indeed.

when a person earns money by doing it, there will be no regrets happening until they get caught. they will instead enjoy the money they got and have a party. there are even cheaters who will influence more gamblers to do the same by teaching how to cheat. put them behind bars and that's the time they regret doing it after losing years of their lives in a cell.

What I still wonder to what extent something falls under the term cheating. Cheating is different than breaking the rules.

there are rules just like any other game. but most of all when it doesn't feel right, it falls under cheating.

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[finaleshot2016]

They've able to find the tweak and enjoy the benefits before they've been caught by the casino owners. It's cheating as most of them played illegally or use something that not allowed from the house.

Cheating is cheating, regardless of its form and reason for doing it. I am not saying that it is right to do it for the first time, but they could at least regret it and refrain from doing it again, and maybe that could make it less of crime. But, as you have said that when cheaters went greedy enough to do it over and over again, that is on another level of cheating and crime indeed.

Yeah, I agree with you, no matter what is the reason and your purpose of doing it, once you bypass the platform, it's forbidden and against the TOS. So we should refrain from using cheats from any gambling platforms because they might ban and can no longer enjoy the benefits you've gained in the platform. Even if you do it just because you're curious, it's still wrong and not tolerable.

[mardaed]

They've able to find the tweak and enjoy the benefits before they've been caught by the casino owners. It's cheating as most of them played illegally or use something that not allowed from the house.

Cheating is cheating, regardless of its form and reason for doing it. I am not saying that it is right to do it for the first time, but they could at least regret it and refrain from doing it again, and maybe that could make it less of crime. But, as you have said that when cheaters went greedy enough to do it over and over again, that is on another level of cheating and crime indeed.

Yeah, I agree with you, no matter what is the reason and your purpose of doing it, once you bypass the platform, it's forbidden and against the TOS. So we should refrain from using cheats from any gambling platforms because they might ban and can no longer enjoy the benefits you've gained in the platform. Even if you do it just because you're curious, it's still wrong and not tolerable.

I am glad we’re on the same page. Many cheaters are up for justifying their deeds, and many of the cheaters use poverty and their financial crisis as alibi for cheating. But honestly, nothing could really justify for it, yes it may sound like it calls for humility and equity but in reality in doesn’t. We cannot really help and be of help to others if we tolerate cheating.

[Fredomago]

They've able to find the tweak and enjoy the benefits before they've been caught by the casino owners. It's cheating as most of them played illegally or use something that not allowed from the house.

Cheating is cheating, regardless of its form and reason for doing it. I am not saying that it is right to do it for the first time, but they could at least regret it and refrain from doing it again, and maybe that could make it less of crime. But, as you have said that when cheaters went greedy enough to do it over and over again, that is on another level of cheating and crime indeed.

Yeah, I agree with you, no matter what is the reason and your purpose of doing it, once you bypass the platform, it's forbidden and against the TOS. So we should refrain from using cheats from any gambling platforms because they might ban and can no longer enjoy the benefits you've gained in the platform. Even if you do it just because you're curious, it's still wrong and not tolerable.

I am glad we’re on the same page. Many cheaters are up for justifying their deeds, and many of the cheaters use poverty and their financial crisis as alibi for cheating. But honestly, nothing could really justify for it, yes it may sound like it calls for humility and equity but in reality in doesn’t. We cannot really help and be of help to others if we tolerate cheating.

Correct! there's nothing that you can do once you've been caught, whatever reasons or alibis cheating is cheating.

You needed to face it to the point of losing everything that still have inside the house / platforms that you are using, the owners have the rights to freeze or compiscate your balance since you are breaking the TOS, there's no justifications since you are dealing with illegal activities taking advantage from the house.

Better to play the right way and hope that luck will permits you to win. 

[KTChampions]

I am glad we’re on the same page. Many cheaters are up for justifying their deeds, and many of the cheaters use poverty and their financial crisis as alibi for cheating. But honestly, nothing could really justify for it, yes it may sound like it calls for humility and equity but in reality in doesn’t. We cannot really help and be of help to others if we tolerate cheating.

In fact, if a person is in a consistently bad situation, then cheating is quite logical (I do not make excuses for such people). But in fact, most cheaters are either just lazy people who do not like to work or adrenaline addicts who engage in criminal activities (I mean serious cheating) not only for money but also for entertainment.

[nakamura12]

Cheating doesn't always brings good results but also brings bad consequences and I don't want to get that consequences instead i'll gamble without cheating. Some people may cheat for a reason but it's not a good choice to cheat just because you are doing it for a good cause. Gambling is for entertainment and to try their luck to earn huge amount of money or lose huge money overall.

[panganib999]

Cheating doesn't always brings good results but also brings bad consequences and I don't want to get that consequences instead i'll gamble without cheating. Some people may cheat for a reason but it's not a good choice to cheat just because you are doing it for a good cause. Gambling is for entertainment and to try their luck to earn huge amount of money or lose huge money overall.

People always believe that gambling is one of the best ways to earn and makes profit. And always people thinks thay whenever they played gambling is that their earnings is guaranteed. And that's lead them to their greediness when their experience losing rather than earning. That attitude will lead them to plau gambling with cheating. But not all gambling sites or game may be cheated because of the reputations. Cheating isn't always the answer. Before you play gambling, you must be aware that there are 50/50 chance of winnings and be sure to play fair game just like what others did.

[boyptc]

What I still wonder to what extent something falls under the term cheating. Cheating is different than breaking the rules.

I think they're similar.

If you fell into breaking the rules of a game, then that's considered cheating. Well, it depends upon to the situation and what the casino sees. But most likely, if someone breaks the rule for their own benefit and with the abuse of the casino, that's cheating.

[Xxmodded]

Cheating doesn't always brings good results but also brings bad consequences and I don't want to get that consequences instead i'll gamble without cheating. Some people may cheat for a reason but it's not a good choice to cheat just because you are doing it for a good cause. Gambling is for entertainment and to try their luck to earn huge amount of money or lose huge money overall.

People always believe that gambling is one of the best ways to earn and makes profit. And always people thinks thay whenever they played gambling is that their earnings is guaranteed. And that's lead them to their greediness when their experience losing rather than earning. That attitude will lead them to plau gambling with cheating. But not all gambling sites or game may be cheated because of the reputations. Cheating isn't always the answer. Before you play gambling, you must be aware that there are 50/50 chance of winnings and be sure to play fair game just like what others did.

Looks easy when betting on soccer then give us bigger odds just waiting when match ended and we know how much profit earn from soccer betting, but never like expectation because have match get wrong prediction. But sure best and easy way how to earn money in gambling site just happening when you choose correct team for betting. Maybe you know how many people still lucky always when choose their team football for betting, I never get lucky any time because always have match with wrong prediction.

[ice098]

People always believe that gambling is one of the best ways to earn and makes profit. And always people thinks thay whenever they played gambling is that their earnings is guaranteed. And that's lead them to their greediness when their experience losing rather than earning. That attitude will lead them to plau gambling with cheating. But not all gambling sites or game may be cheated because of the reputations. Cheating isn't always the answer. Before you play gambling, you must be aware that there are 50/50 chance of winnings and be sure to play fair game just like what others did.

Well there have some people who thinks that gambling was one of the sensible idea of earning a profit nowadays which of course due to pandemic that brought a huge percentage of non employment this past year. Which i guess doesn't bad if people would try to online gambling that wouldn't compromise their health and if ever they have an idea about gambling, also seeking for a legit online gambling. But in some aspects, cheating in gambling really happens and some of the gamblers made a huge profit from it, which i guess i couldn't question why they do that but for me cheating is cheating, and it is never become good even you have a noble reason behind it.

[mardaed]

They've able to find the tweak and enjoy the benefits before they've been caught by the casino owners. It's cheating as most of them played illegally or use something that not allowed from the house.

Cheating is cheating, regardless of its form and reason for doing it. I am not saying that it is right to do it for the first time, but they could at least regret it and refrain from doing it again, and maybe that could make it less of crime. But, as you have said that when cheaters went greedy enough to do it over and over again, that is on another level of cheating and crime indeed.

Correct just as you've said cheating is cheating and no matter how small you've thru doesn't justify what you've done. If you've been caught early while cheating then you can't reason it out that you only have started, it doesn't work that way. No matter how much you've gain and profited by your cheats will not make it less of a crime. There is no such thing a less of crime when cheating casinos, you'll end up in jail even if just a penny that you've gain if you are proven to be cheater.
Better to avoid cheating and be honest or cheat and hope that you never get caught or spend time in jail.

You got me with the “lazy people” and I agree with you. Personally, I know a few who resorted to cheating, and it is because by doing so, they do not have to go the rough road but would be able to have a good outcome “instantly.” And I think that is being lazy for choosing to do something irrational knowing that you had to go through the rough first before being successful.

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I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.

[FlightyPouch]

This story inspires me. It takes a lot of guts to pull it off. I wonder how it turned out for the students their techniques. Did such skill work for them also? Or did the casinos get smarter? Anyways it feels good to know the house doesn't always win 

I don't know how that inspired you since they are cheating. I don't know if you want to cheat to beat the casino or you just want to beat the casino. With the system that we have now, that is not a skill, that is cheating. Obviously, the casino banned these because it is cheating, I don't think they would be allowing that for so long unless someone knows something and kept it for himself.

[Becky666]

I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.

There are those who don't have such mindset like yours, they will continue with their gambling even when the luck doesn't be with them. It's better to always be mindful of what we spend on gambling casino becasue lack of control won't bring something good into a gambler's life if he or she continue with gambling. Personally, whenever i gamble and come up with some good winnings then i will opted out immediately.

[Fredomago]

I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.

There are those who don't have such mindset like yours, they will continue with their gambling even when the luck doesn't be with them. It's better to always be mindful of what we spend on gambling casino becasue lack of control won't bring something good into a gambler's life if he or she continue with gambling. Personally, whenever i gamble and come up with some good winnings then i will opted out immediately.

Good priorities if you have such kind of plans, if you already have something better to quit and enjoy, most of those who continue chasing more luck suffered from losing their entire bankroll.

It doesn't matter how big you win what is important is you have something that you win out of luck or any legal strategy
that leads you to win over the house.

Cheating won't last so better to take some earnings out of your well manage bankroll and luck
while playing your games.

[seleme]

This story inspires me. It takes a lot of guts to pull it off. I wonder how it turned out for the students their techniques. Did such skill work for them also? Or did the casinos get smarter? Anyways it feels good to know the house doesn't always win  

I don't know how that inspired you since they are cheating. I don't know if you want to cheat to beat the casino or you just want to beat the casino. With the system that we have now, that is not a skill, that is cheating. Obviously, the casino banned these because it is cheating, I don't think they would be allowing that for so long unless someone knows something and kept it for himself.

It is not only about inspiration and it is mathematically impossible to beat the casino in the long term. Cheaters are cheaters and they have been banned to enter casino buildings, the houses never like winners no matter gamblers win with legit or illegal methods. Of course, the bribery facts will lead to other heartbreaking consequences if the mafia controls the whole administration of the casino.

I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.

There are those who don't have such mindset like yours, they will continue with their gambling even when the luck doesn't be with them. It's better to always be mindful of what we spend on gambling casino becasue lack of control won't bring something good into a gambler's life if he or she continue with gambling. Personally, whenever i gamble and come up with some good winnings then i will opted out immediately.

Not everyone has the same luck, some slots can go badly for a long time. In this case, the loss is inevitable and the red trading will go longer than your casino balance will handle. Until the big hit, the cold slots can take up to 4000 spins, RTP can stay dead for hours. Anyway, you will get bust if this ever happens and you opt-out from that unlucky slot.

[Lorence.xD]

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I don't know how that inspired you since they are cheating. I don't know if you want to cheat to beat the casino or you just want to beat the casino. With the system that we have now, that is not a skill, that is cheating. Obviously, the casino banned these because it is cheating, I don't think they would be allowing that for so long unless someone knows something and kept it for himself.

I think the reason that he/she was inspired is because of the courage to pull off such an act, I do admire courage no matter how legal it is, I give them the slack. Obviously they are cheating and it is an unfair practice against other player, but don't you think that casinos should get a taste of their own medicine from time to time? They do some form of cheating too, they just call it a house edge and gambling.

[Jesabela04]

This story inspires me. It takes a lot of guts to pull it off. I wonder how it turned out for the students their techniques. Did such skill work for them also? Or did the casinos get smarter? Anyways it feels good to know the house doesn't always win 

Any form of cheating couldn't justify the means. They might succeed yet there are still consequences. It's better to play fair and have peace of mind than to win or even beat the casino but has to face charges that could also ruin your reputation. I don't think they deserve admiration. We all want fair play and casinos also deserve that. We don't know the possible consequences that we might face in the future if we'll cheat today.

[Betwrong]

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I don't know how that inspired you since they are cheating. I don't know if you want to cheat to beat the casino or you just want to beat the casino. With the system that we have now, that is not a skill, that is cheating. Obviously, the casino banned these because it is cheating, I don't think they would be allowing that for so long unless someone knows something and kept it for himself.

I think the reason that he/she was inspired is because of the courage to pull off such an act, I do admire courage no matter how legal it is, I give them the slack. Obviously they are cheating and it is an unfair practice against other player, but don't you think that casinos should get a taste of their own medicine from time to time? They do some form of cheating too, they just call it a house edge and gambling.

If you are openly declaring the rules of the game(terms and conditions) beforehand, this is not cheating. Players can examine them, and decide whether they want to play on the site. No pitfalls will be left for someone who read the ToS carefully(talking about honest gambling sites here, of course). Cheaters do not disclose their methods beforehand, and that's the difference. There's nothing to admire in their actions. Cheating is bad.

[boyptc]

I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.

But what you're saying is off from the topic which is about those gamblers who have won against the casino through cheating.

It's not about our profit as we gamble and taking it out before they take it back.