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January 09, 2021, 10:26:53 AM
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Setting up a platform without registration and login? And then you think you can get customers? sorry but you really have to work with a login. Customers need security and their own personal account.

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they dont need a login or a signup page anymore but you can pick and place a bet imediately by using only your btc address  .

 i guess this is more secure than having an account because no hacks will happen because you dont have an account and i never see anyone being hack by only using their btc public address but i already seen a gambling site with the same concept like this one  . they arent that much but i also dont think this concept is new ? because that was long time ago after i see one like this
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January 09, 2021, 10:29:25 AM
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Gambling in Costa Rica is not regulated. That means that there is no control and supervision whatsoever. If you still want to gain trust and credibility, I recommend that you publish the company details of your company.
Which also means they do not have a gambling license.

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January 09, 2021, 10:45:43 AM
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Lots of sportsbook business is established in Costa Rica, including NitrogenSports.

you can check their trust page you will see how many complaints they have. i think you should first improve your website and follow some users suggestion looks like some users have trouble with loading on your website in my case i am curious how much would be the maximum bet on your website.

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January 09, 2021, 10:48:05 AM
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welcome to the forum it's so nice to see another sports betting website on the forum. I think you should upgrade your account to copper member in order for you to post images and make this ann thread more attractive to players.
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January 09, 2021, 11:26:43 AM
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Despite the sloppy start and lots of negative comments, I like the approach, the responsiveness of @betraft and also the design of the page - I like clean and lean more than lots of bling-bling in a betting site. I want to bet there and see the odds and matches; if I want a nice looking page, I can go to some fashion site.
Navigating is a bit weary though, since there are no under-menus for example for soccer and a lot of scrolling or ctrl+f is needed to get to the game you are looking for. This is maybe something you want to improve in the future.

I don't know, if this is legit, but I would recommend to try with small amounts first. But not too small, because the withdrawal tx fee might eat up all your winnings and even parts of your deposit, if you play low odds with small stakes.
And make sure, if the odds you are getting, are better than elsewhere taking the tx fees into consideration, because you pay them twice yourself for each bet you make. So @2.00 is actually net lower and the vig is already at ~7% by default.

I placed a little bet and will report back, if it wins Grin

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January 09, 2021, 11:29:22 AM
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I also think it is good that the person does not feel attacked and answers every question. Experiences of players will show whether this is a reliable site or not. There's nothing wrong with small bets. How fast are the payouts? I only miss the live games, which are very popular for the audience.

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January 09, 2021, 04:01:28 PM
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May I know if your instant deposit and withdrawal feature will also include btc? I am not so sure if what you are referring to instant withdrawal either it will instantly deposit upon receiving a certain confirmation or you mean automatic deposit and withdrawal instead of instant? Your 25% is like a rakeback? This is pretty good promotion if in case this is like a rakeback where we can get back 25% from our losses.
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January 09, 2021, 04:38:03 PM
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Despite the sloppy start and lots of negative comments, I like the approach, the responsiveness of @betraft and also the design of the page - I like clean and lean more than lots of bling-bling in a betting site. I want to bet there and see the odds and matches; if I want a nice looking page, I can go to some fashion site.
Navigating is a bit weary though, since there are no under-menus for example for soccer and a lot of scrolling or ctrl+f is needed to get to the game you are looking for. This is maybe something you want to improve in the future.

I don't know, if this is legit, but I would recommend to try with small amounts first. But not too small, because the withdrawal tx fee might eat up all your winnings and even parts of your deposit, if you play low odds with small stakes.
And make sure, if the odds you are getting, are better than elsewhere taking the tx fees into consideration, because you pay them twice yourself for each bet you make. So @2.00 is actually net lower and the vig is already at ~7% by default.

I placed a little bet and will report back, if it wins Grin

With these types of bookmakers who are new without a license, you better send a message when you have received a payment  Smiley

May I know if your instant deposit and withdrawal feature will also include btc? I am not so sure if what you are referring to instant withdrawal either it will instantly deposit upon receiving a certain confirmation or you mean automatic deposit and withdrawal instead of instant? Your 25% is like a rakeback? This is pretty good promotion if in case this is like a rakeback where we can get back 25% from our losses.


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May I know if your instant deposit and withdrawal feature will also include btc?
Yes, currently we support BTC only, and BTC is included in that promotion.

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I am not so sure if what you are referring to instant withdrawal either it will instantly deposit upon receiving a certain confirmation or you mean automatic deposit and withdrawal instead of instant?
Instant deposit means your bets are confirmed as soon as you send any BTC to your bet slip. Instant withdrawal is when events in your bet slip are graded, your winning amount is sent immediately. 

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Your 25% is like a rakeback? This is pretty good promotion if in case this is like a rakeback where we can get back 25% from our losses.
You get a 25% refund from your winnings or losses, so it is similar to rakeback. That promotion will end on 1/31/2021.

Hopefully, it's clear for you now.

Does that mean the win is automatically send to the bitcoin address from the players?

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January 09, 2021, 04:52:21 PM
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The idea of no registration is nice.

What i didn't like is the poor availability of soccer games.

A bettor need more leagues except the mainstream ones
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January 09, 2021, 05:38:46 PM
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No KYC might be attractive to some people, but it's not enough to make a name in the current market, as great sportsbooks like Sportsbet.io already exist and are well-known.
It's good that you've solved the issue DarkStar pointed out, and that you're planning to get a license. At least it shows that you're trying to improve.
I'm geoblocked from accessing the website, though, 'cause apparently you don't allow people from certain countries even though you don't have a license yet...?

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January 09, 2021, 07:14:27 PM
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Welcome to bitcoitnalk forum.
There is no kyc and no registration on Betraft and that is good, but new betting websites always have to work harder to prove it is legitimate and that people can trust it with their coins, and I don't see enough information for betraft.
You have twitter social media with only one member and follower, and betraft website does not have any license except some claims about Costa Rica San José without any proof.




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January 09, 2021, 09:40:16 PM
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We temporarily blocked some countries but will lift the block soon.
May I ask why you restricted access from certain countries although there is no kyc requirement? What will you do if you find out that someone from a blocked country accessed your website using a vpn, will you accept his bet?
Also, I noticed that you can put anything in the "receiving address" field which means that you don't check if the provided address is valid or not! You should fix this to protect your customers from losing their money by mistakenly typing a wrong address.

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January 09, 2021, 09:55:23 PM
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We temporarily blocked some countries but will lift the block soon.
May I ask why you restricted access from certain countries although there is no kyc requirement? What will you do if you find out that someone from a blocked country accessed your website using a vpn, will you accept his bet?
Also, I noticed that you can put anything in the "receiving address" field which means that you don't check if the provided address is valid or not! You should fix this to protect your customers from losing their money by mistakenly typing a wrong address.

That's a good suggestion there. About the receiving address field. Because there are really people who can make mistakes and those that are not double checking their transactions. Better if they can provide also a counter check from their end.

And with regards to having restricted access, I believe use of VPN is still ok for now as they also give a go on this one. But what if in the future you will acquire your gambling license, are you still ok with the use of VPN?
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January 09, 2021, 09:58:08 PM
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With these types of bookmakers who are new without a license, you better send a message when you have received a payment  Smiley

My bet won and I can confirm that I received my winnings shortly after the game had finished. Due to low-ish stakes and odds I actually "lost" a good part of the money via tx fees again as described above, so think twice and do your calculations beforehand.

(This does not mean that Betraft is legit - only time will tell - judge/try yourself and make your own experiences)

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January 09, 2021, 10:11:31 PM
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We added following Soccer ⚽ leagues for those interested:

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nice. hope you add more in the future.

P.S Since you accept Serie D bets, i see no logic not accept at least all 1st division games worldwide. I mean, Algeria, Tunisia, UAE, Greece, Bosnia etc
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January 09, 2021, 10:28:30 PM
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Hi @khaled0111

It's already fixed, thanks for informing us though.
That was quick.. or were you already working on it!

I just reloaded the page and found out that access from my country is not allowed anymore:
Code:
Country XX is not allowed to access.
Does this has anything to do with me attempting to fill an invalid address? If so, then this is not the way to go. You don't simply block a whole country just because someone tried to abuse your system.

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January 09, 2021, 11:05:16 PM
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Just want to say if the betraft admin will continue to be active in addressing each and every concern by the players here, I believe in time, they will get loyal supporters. Sometimes it is how you treat your players, small or big, and resolving or answering satisfactorily those issues. Good luck to betraft and hopefully grow your community.
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January 09, 2021, 11:23:50 PM
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Just want to say if the betraft admin will continue to be active in addressing each and every concern by the players here, I believe in time, they will get loyal supporters. Sometimes it is how you treat your players, small or big, and resolving or answering satisfactorily those issues. Good luck to betraft and hopefully grow your community.

Community support is one of the factor what people will like to them but to be honest this is a little things only since many people still looking for best promotion since remember there are other casino and sportsbook who offer a good promotion/contest to the gamblers here, so betraft should compete these tight competition in this industry.

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January 09, 2021, 11:30:02 PM
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Just want to say if the betraft admin will continue to be active in addressing each and every concern by the players here, I believe in time, they will get loyal supporters. Sometimes it is how you treat your players, small or big, and resolving or answering satisfactorily those issues. Good luck to betraft and hopefully grow your community.

When you are just starting with this business into this industry then it is just  right that you should really be attentive on what the publics concern and complaints nor those suggestions.
You cant really expect that your site would already be perfect once it had been launched, you would normally get some criticism and there might be issues that had been seen which would really
be a good thing for you to make out some fix or adjustment according on what they do like, once you do able to get their attention then this is where the public or the community might
consider to hang out into this place. This is just new and there are lots of things to improve on and lets see if they could able to sustain that.

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