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June 23, 2021, 08:56:28 PM
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Okay so people keep saying holding is more important and things like its better because if you hold, you pay less in taxes because of long term capital gains.


However, what if the crypto or stock increases like 50% or even double in a few days time or weeks time etc?  Yea so you are paying a lot in taxes if you trade... but if you wait for a year or longer, now you could have no gains or just 5% gain.  Whereas you trade for a few days and make 50%... sure you pay a lot in short term capital gains... but if after a year, the gain is only 5%, well you made more trading than holding. 


Thoughts on this for trading whether crypto or stocks?
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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing

For me, Trading is more profitable for short term, but investing for long term is also good and with higher return if your investment is good. Actually, it depends on what you want and depends on your knowledge and capital. Trading is more risky but if you are knowledgeable in trading then it will give you a good return. Well, if you have enough capital, you can invest for long term while doing trade.

I agree, both sides have their advantages but if you do have enough money to invest splitting between or allocating funds for both long and short-term is the best action to take.

You can split between day trading and long-term investing, it's  a matter of how good your knowledge within this venue of investment.

For those who have skills, they can see every opportunities. Buying low and hold it for long-term or it's also possible to rinse just the
same, buy low then sell when the value rises up, collecting decent amount of profits to add for your initial investment.
Of course it would be sensible to you on making out investment when you do still have money to spare on doing so because diversifying into several businesses could really give out advantage over into those people who don't have make out any steps.

It is just a matter of on how you do divide out your time and resources and how you do well on dividing up your time to make it more efficient.

Of course it wont really be success from time to time but you wont really able to know if you wont try and not all would really means success.

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June 24, 2021, 07:02:32 AM
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Okay so people keep saying holding is more important and things like its better because if you hold, you pay less in taxes because of long term capital gains.


However, what if the crypto or stock increases like 50% or even double in a few days time or weeks time etc?  Yea so you are paying a lot in taxes if you trade... but if you wait for a year or longer, now you could have no gains or just 5% gain.  Whereas you trade for a few days and make 50%... sure you pay a lot in short term capital gains... but if after a year, the gain is only 5%, well you made more trading than holding. 


Thoughts on this for trading whether crypto or stocks?
Trading is more profitable than investing just like buying and selling of goods, making profits or loses every time transactions are made.  Trading gives daily returns without waiting for long duration of time or waiting for centuries for profit to be made.
Both trading and investing has their own affiliated risks that are involved in the market.

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June 25, 2021, 01:28:48 AM
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Cryptocurrency markets are very risky now because of increasing crypto in daily basis. Trading and investing both are different scenario in market. As my experience investing will be always going to give big profits then trading. Trading is also good but for a very experienced traders. In investing if your fortune is right then you can make a history in your family financially. In trading I don't think you going to secure you life by anyway. As an expert you can do both and in any market trading and investing both will make you happy all time.
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June 27, 2021, 03:12:02 AM
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Cryptocurrency markets are very risky now because of increasing crypto in daily basis. Trading and investing both are different scenario in market. As my experience investing will be always going to give big profits then trading. Trading is also good but for a very experienced traders. In investing if your fortune is right then you can make a history in your family financially. In trading I don't think you going to secure you life by anyway. As an expert you can do both and in any market trading and investing both will make you happy all time.
It is very difficult, because you have to take into account the skills that the person has as a trader, when talking about fortune, the best thing for me is investment, but in this case with so much market uncertainty, it is best to diversify in other markets or in Real Estate, of course, the investment is superior as long as the money that is destined does not have to be used for any eventuality, and that you have to wait as long as necessary until you obtain a profit.

The good investor has patience, in crypto most stages such as accumulation usually last around 3 to 4 years, currently I think that the accumulation stage is over, and that we are experiencing the bullisu trend stage, of course one cannot rule out re-accumulation, but it's all a matter of waiting. In general terms for me, if you have enough money, the investment is much better, in the case of BTC the HODL.

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June 27, 2021, 11:56:32 AM
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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing

For me, Trading is more profitable for short term, but investing for long term is also good and with higher return if your investment is good. Actually, it depends on what you want and depends on your knowledge and capital. Trading is more risky but if you are knowledgeable in trading then it will give you a good return. Well, if you have enough capital, you can invest for long term while doing trade.

I agree, both sides have their advantages but if you do have enough money to invest splitting between or allocating funds for both long and short-term is the best action to take.

You can split between day trading and long-term investing, it's  a matter of how good your knowledge within this venue of investment.

For those who have skills, they can see every opportunities. Buying low and hold it for long-term or it's also possible to rinse just the
same, buy low then sell when the value rises up, collecting decent amount of profits to add for your initial investment.
choosing to invest long term and trading short term can give us an advantage. Of course, short-term trading can give us short-term profits, but this is for those who already have experience in short-term trading. For beginners, of course, long-term investments will be better, while learning to trade short-term

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June 30, 2021, 09:18:19 PM
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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing

For me, Trading is more profitable for short term, but investing for long term is also good and with higher return if your investment is good. Actually, it depends on what you want and depends on your knowledge and capital. Trading is more risky but if you are knowledgeable in trading then it will give you a good return. Well, if you have enough capital, you can invest for long term while doing trade.

I agree, both sides have their advantages but if you do have enough money to invest splitting between or allocating funds for both long and short-term is the best action to take.

You can split between day trading and long-term investing, it's  a matter of how good your knowledge within this venue of investment.

For those who have skills, they can see every opportunities. Buying low and hold it for long-term or it's also possible to rinse just the
same, buy low then sell when the value rises up, collecting decent amount of profits to add for your initial investment.
choosing to invest long term and trading short term can give us an advantage. Of course, short-term trading can give us short-term profits, but this is for those who already have experience in short-term trading. For beginners, of course, long-term investments will be better, while learning to trade short-term

It's easy to tell that if you both have the skills on how to be profitable whether you are investing in the short term or long term, just compare to see the result. However, IMO, the short term always gives more profit provided you are good in short-term trading as that would easily make you grow your capital.

Remember that the market does not sleep, so you can trade 24/7 and you'll grow your money in time.

I think most of us here are short term traders, that's the reason why the market remains volatile.

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June 30, 2021, 10:39:45 PM
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Okay so people keep saying holding is more important and things like its better because if you hold, you pay less in taxes because of long term capital gains.


However, what if the crypto or stock increases like 50% or even double in a few days time or weeks time etc?  Yea so you are paying a lot in taxes if you trade... but if you wait for a year or longer, now you could have no gains or just 5% gain.  Whereas you trade for a few days and make 50%... sure you pay a lot in short term capital gains... but if after a year, the gain is only 5%, well you made more trading than holding. 


Thoughts on this for trading whether crypto or stocks?
Trading is more profitable than investing just like buying and selling of goods, making profits or loses every time transactions are made.  Trading gives daily returns without waiting for long duration of time or waiting for centuries for profit to be made.
Both trading and investing has their own affiliated risks that are involved in the market.
You can never say that unless if you are lucky enough that every day the market gives you a favor. Maybe you are right in saying that trading is more profitable but you can't deny also the risk inside which is the reason why many people who try trading went losing their money after.
I won't argue with you which one is profitable because all the results will depend on individuals decisions and market strategy.
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July 01, 2021, 05:27:51 AM
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Contrarily, you need only one bad trade to lose all the profits you made for the day/week that is why trading is risky as well as profitable.

You can make a good amount of profits with the investing on more of the times than your trades in reality because your trades will eat the profits you made and at the long run you will be with the same or little higher amount than your capital while being an investor there will be the certain percentage you will be having after few years.
I agree with your claim but that's the thrill of trading, you never know if your trade is going to make you money or not also a bad trade will only happen if you are stupid enough to trade without any knowledge about the coin that you are trading or you didn't do any analysis. Investong is still a good way to go though because it's much safer than trading in every aspect.
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July 01, 2021, 06:52:30 AM
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I think it is ideal for newbies since they don't have to make a top to bottom investigation of the market since you might have recently gotten some great level coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum then, at that point hold it's anything but a period, needn't bother with that much experience. However, in exchanging you can create benefit regular in the event that you can exchange like a victor. Recall nor a dealer can win or benefit ordinary.

Yes this definitely needs to be understood by every newbie who shows interest in cryptos.
Trading is like risking your money on something unpredictable.
But yes trading can give you quick cash oftenly.
Trading can dominate Investing, as trading gives profit on regular basis.
Where as investing is very slow process and it will give profit in later part of time.
Hope you get this mow OP.

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July 03, 2021, 10:28:49 AM
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Trading can be an exciting way to win fast cash. Be that as it may, like with betting, it can moreover rapidly lead to huge misfortunes. Contributing, as a rule, implies littler short-term wins, but moreover less serious misfortunes. On the off chance that you're comfortable with the dangers, exchanging with a parcel of your cash can be agreeable and might lead to benefits.

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July 03, 2021, 12:59:08 PM
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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing
I think there is no advantage on trading and investing because they are both risky and sometimes profitable. The profit that you can get on trading or investing is always depend on how you do it by yourself with your own strategy with the help of your knowledge or experience on both trading and investing.

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July 03, 2021, 05:04:59 PM
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I think that one can be advantageous over the other according to the person’s forte and skills as well. If you are knowledgeable in trading and is not fond of waiting for the “time”, then trading is an advantage. But if you are someone who takes all the time as necessary and doesn’t have capacity to do trading, investment is more of an advantage. But either of the two, risk is an accompanied aspect.

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July 03, 2021, 11:18:11 PM
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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing
I think there is no advantage on trading and investing because they are both risky and sometimes profitable. The profit that you can get on trading or investing is always depend on how you do it by yourself with your own strategy with the help of your knowledge or experience on both trading and investing.
Trading is riskier than investing, the only does trading have is we can make a profit every day if we are too lucky but that also we might lose if the market gives no favour to us. While investing it is just like you are sitting on the chair waiting for the next rally and then sell.
However, if we get wrong in choosing coins, it is our absolute loss as well.

It is either we go trading or choose to invest, it still needs to invest time in the market for additional knowledge and also to be aware.

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July 05, 2021, 03:51:21 AM
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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing
I think there is no advantage on trading and investing because they are both risky and sometimes profitable. The profit that you can get on trading or investing is always depend on how you do it by yourself with your own strategy with the help of your knowledge or experience on both trading and investing.
Trading is riskier than investing, the only does trading have is we can make a profit every day if we are too lucky but that also we might lose if the market gives no favour to us. While investing it is just like you are sitting on the chair waiting for the next rally and then sell.
However, if we get wrong in choosing coins, it is our absolute loss as well.

It is either we go trading or choose to invest, it still needs to invest time in the market for additional knowledge and also to be aware.
right, both trading and investing have their respective consequences. trading is more fun for me, because I have a lot of time to be in front of the market, so every day if we are lucky we can withdraw profits, because I aspire to be able to live from trading later, and I consider trading the same as any other job

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July 05, 2021, 06:36:13 AM
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It's easy to tell that if you both have the skills on how to be profitable whether you are investing in the short term or long term, just compare to see the result. However, IMO, the short term always gives more profit provided you are good in short-term trading as that would easily make you grow your capital.

Remember that the market does not sleep, so you can trade 24/7 and you'll grow your money in time.

I think most of us here are short term traders, that's the reason why the market remains volatile.

There are lots of people who engage with short-term trades, traders who loves shorting the market.  Seeing that the opportunities is better when you place your entry in the right position.

With this volatile nature most big whales loves to play with this  market, making it as easy target for short-term manipulations to earn really quick.

Assess your capabilities and never to play without proper knowledge it will save you a lot both time and money.


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July 05, 2021, 06:41:15 AM
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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing
I think there is no advantage on trading and investing because they are both risky and sometimes profitable. The profit that you can get on trading or investing is always depend on how you do it by yourself with your own strategy with the help of your knowledge or experience on both trading and investing.

Hmmm. Both are ways to earn profit so basically there is an advantage on each one. All profit generating activities has always a risk since it's not job with a regular wage. There's a lot of different elements on how you will earn profit and how much but as you stated, Strategy plays a big role for that. The advantage of trading was you can earn for a short period of time while investing is for long run. On the other hand, The advantage of investing was you can earn in the future while leaving your investment and continue the job you are doing.

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Trading or investing ..does Trading pay more than investing
I think there is no advantage on trading and investing because they are both risky and sometimes profitable. The profit that you can get on trading or investing is always depend on how you do it by yourself with your own strategy with the help of your knowledge or experience on both trading and investing.
Indeed both has risk and profitable but this depends on our plan and strategy. Some people are earning huge on trading because they take time learning on how it works to execute a good result. It is also an advantage if you know how to make a TA because thats how you can predict the next move to do for the coins that you're planning to buy or sell.

On the other side investing is less stressful (atleast for me) because you're not often monitoring the market and has a plan on when to take profit base on the market's situation. Thus it depends on which is more profitable for us thats why it would be better to have an experience on trading and investing to know whats best that suits us.

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July 05, 2021, 02:52:56 PM
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Yes trading has some extra benifit than investing. Well invest has one option to generate profit which we have to hold until the price up and we reached our goal but trading has some extra features like we can generate profit by trading not only that we can also generate profit no matter market gose up or down.  Trading has this best option no matter what is market condition? By trading we can generate profit. Plus there has some trading options like margin trading, futures trading which is risky but profitable. Its my opinion others can be different. Thank you.
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July 05, 2021, 04:47:49 PM
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right, both trading and investing have their respective consequences. trading is more fun for me, because I have a lot of time to be in front of the market, so every day if we are lucky we can withdraw profits, because I aspire to be able to live from trading later, and I consider trading the same as any other job
So how's your day trading going? I guess you're making a lot from it. Although the definition of being lucky is commonly used in gambling, there are also traders that have been also telling and asking the same thing.

You're not lucky if you're withdrawing daily. That means that you're good with your trades and that reflects your analysis and decision making as you trade.

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