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March 07, 2021, 10:10:54 PM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.

I think they are not ready to make it legal there, the way you see countries like India, Sri Lanka, Philippines and many which do not appreciate any gambling activities, yet their citizens gamble on various online gambling platforms. We are very small scale people and discussing it here will not bring any changes there in Thailand. If people of Thailand want a change, they should file a petition and sign it and legally request their government to make gambling legal in their country.
Results of said petition or proposal wouldnt really give out guarantees or high chances for it to be approved because it all matters with governments decision in the end of the day.
Every country does have their own jurisdiction on things this is why we do see some citizens do really come out into a certain extent just for them to deal up with gambling
even though they do know that it is prohibited but still they decide to continue and embrace up the risk.They cant do anything as long it is banned or illegal then
they would really be playing with fire.

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March 07, 2021, 10:45:37 PM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
This doesn't guarantee that illegal gambling will be eliminated as even in some countries where gambling is legal, there are still a lot of illegal gambling establishments operating because the government can't monitor everything, it will only minimize the problem but it will not eradicate.

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March 08, 2021, 12:42:43 AM
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Online gambling is banned in thailand the government does not issue any licenses that allow operator VAT sites to gamble online in thailand. In reality the country has never considered such a possibility as worldly forms of gambling are generally banned despite the ban local players enjoy foreign services there are many online gambling sites that take thai players, although a few of them are available in thai. At the same time the ministry of information and communication technology periodically tries to control the situation these will be banned if the government imposes taxes on them.
It is surprising they are so against gambling when it is an industry that it is impossible to stop, gambling can be done now from the comfort of your own home, there was a time before the Internet that if you wanted to gamble and it was forbidden you needed to go to the ugly part of your city and know where the underground casino was placed, but now you can gamble with just a few clicks, governments need to realize the change in the technology and instead try to regulate gambling on their countries, not only this will benefit their citizens but this will benefit them as they get more taxes as a result of such regulation.
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March 08, 2021, 03:03:21 AM
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Or he can use the third service to help them convert their bitcoin easily, so they can use that money for whatever they want. Maybe that will not be easy for them, but I think they will search for the right answer by getting information from the internet. With the internet's help, I am sure before they travel to the other country, they will make sure that they have enough information about the destination country so they will not get into trouble while they stay.

Most of the third party services require KYC, and that is a massive handicap when you go against the law. One option is to go for virtual prepaid debit cards such as Ezzocard, if you want to convert your coins to cash. They require no KYC, up to a certain limit and may be more attractive than dealing with unknown traders in various P2P platforms. Anyway, in the end the gambler will chose the option which looks the most convenient and safe.

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March 08, 2021, 04:17:30 AM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.

I think most problem is people in Buddhism religion are anti this solution.

May be not pass Public hearing from Buddhism anti

See just company sell alcohol drink like Thai Beverage move to trade on stock market at Singapore because people in Buddhism religion are anti
Why Buddhism not anti same

How can make people in Buddhism religion accept this gambling legal, Think, How solution.? please advice? how make them all agree with?
they don't understand just believe and anti.
85-95% Buddhism in Thailand.

People become government may be want to make it legal because all are business man
political still talk about casino or entertainment complex already
most business man are agree with gambling legal idea.
(I agree too) new generation people still fine with gambling legal

How to process without anti? (from both Buddhism and old fashion people)

Think easy but real world very hard.

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March 09, 2021, 10:19:48 AM
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^^^ You need to stop mixing religion in to this. Oriental religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism are much older than Semitic religions such as Christianity and Islam. But at the same time, they are much more progressive when compared to the Semitic religions. Take the case of countries such as Indonesia, Philippines, Afghanistan and Iran. They became less progressive when the religion was changed from oriental to semitic.

Buddhism as such as no restriction against gambling, alcohol, porn or prostitution. If you compare countries such as Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos with Philippines and Malaysia, it becomes clear. If countries such as Thailand and Japan are trying to ban any of these sectors, then I would say that it is due to the Western influence. Because Asian countries have absorbed both good and bad from the Western culture.
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^^^ You need to stop mixing religion in to this. Oriental religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism are much older than Semitic religions such as Christianity and Islam. But at the same time, they are much more progressive when compared to the Semitic religions. Take the case of countries such as Indonesia, Philippines, Afghanistan and Iran. They became less progressive when the religion was changed from oriental to semitic.

Buddhism as such as no restriction against gambling, alcohol, porn or prostitution. If you compare countries such as Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos with Philippines and Malaysia, it becomes clear. If countries such as Thailand and Japan are trying to ban any of these sectors, then I would say that it is due to the Western influence. Because Asian countries have absorbed both good and bad from the Western culture.
I think the west is very divided on this matter. Mostly protestants are against gambling, but in catholic religion I can see it's not totally frowned up, because there are local communities which make saints' parties yearly where one of the main activities is the bingo game rewarding prizes which were donated prviously to those who play. In exchange, the money goes to the catholic church.
In fact Islamic countries seems much more strict about gambling than western countries and I think their influence affects countries like India and Pakistan.

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March 09, 2021, 06:48:24 PM
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Or he can use the third service to help them convert their bitcoin easily, so they can use that money for whatever they want. Maybe that will not be easy for them, but I think they will search for the right answer by getting information from the internet. With the internet's help, I am sure before they travel to the other country, they will make sure that they have enough information about the destination country so they will not get into trouble while they stay.

Most of the third party services require KYC, and that is a massive handicap when you go against the law. One option is to go for virtual prepaid debit cards such as Ezzocard, if you want to convert your coins to cash. They require no KYC, up to a certain limit and may be more attractive than dealing with unknown traders in various P2P platforms. Anyway, in the end the gambler will chose the option which looks the most convenient and safe.

It's the gamblers who will choose among those available channels to where they'll want to convert their money, those options that being provided are all considerable.

But in the end, the gambler itself will find suitalbel exchange that he saw he's comfort, KYC though interfere with gamblers who
love to keep their privacy, if there's kind of service though limitations are always required by every government jurisdictions,
considering p2p if taking such risk is very easy to convert your hold cryptos.

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March 09, 2021, 06:49:47 PM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
They can make it legal but if those operators are not willing to follow such laws, they have no choice but to hide and be in the chase because of being declared as illegal activity.
Also, the country or the place if there's a certain locale rule about gambling, even if they want to become legal, that will stop them from being legal if it's related to religious or traditional setup. In that way, they have to find a better place where they're welcomed.

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March 09, 2021, 10:52:58 PM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
They can make it legal but if those operators are not willing to follow such laws, they have no choice but to hide and be in the chase because of being declared as illegal activity.
Also, the country or the place if there's a certain locale rule about gambling, even if they want to become legal, that will stop them from being legal if it's related to religious or traditional setup. In that way, they have to find a better place where they're welcomed.
These illegal operators will be very confident if they know the government has struggle in cracking down illegal gambling operators. It should start from the government or the regulators itself, if they showed their strict implementation, then those running illegal casinos will hesitate as they might face a serious consequences.

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March 10, 2021, 06:02:13 PM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
They can make it legal but if those operators are not willing to follow such laws, they have no choice but to hide and be in the chase because of being declared as illegal activity.
Also, the country or the place if there's a certain locale rule about gambling, even if they want to become legal, that will stop them from being legal if it's related to religious or traditional setup. In that way, they have to find a better place where they're welcomed.
These illegal operators will be very confident if they know the government has struggle in cracking down illegal gambling operators. It should start from the government or the regulators itself, if they showed their strict implementation, then those running illegal casinos will hesitate as they might face a serious consequences.
The government are doing their thing if we're going to talk about their side. But I think both have their own shortcomings in, the other isn't willing to follow.
While the other is doing their thing but not enforcing what they have to enforce. It varies from situation to situation and if they are strict, then that should make the operators stop and not willing cooperate and coordinate with them.

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March 10, 2021, 11:28:52 PM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
They can make it legal but if those operators are not willing to follow such laws, they have no choice but to hide and be in the chase because of being declared as illegal activity.
Also, the country or the place if there's a certain locale rule about gambling, even if they want to become legal, that will stop them from being legal if it's related to religious or traditional setup. In that way, they have to find a better place where they're welcomed.
These illegal operators will be very confident if they know the government has struggle in cracking down illegal gambling operators. It should start from the government or the regulators itself, if they showed their strict implementation, then those running illegal casinos will hesitate as they might face a serious consequences.
The government are doing their thing if we're going to talk about their side. But I think both have their own shortcomings in, the other isn't willing to follow.
While the other is doing their thing but not enforcing what they have to enforce. It varies from situation to situation and if they are strict, then that should make the operators stop and not willing cooperate and coordinate with them.
Once government do take out some action then you wont really be having any choice but to follow it or would totally be getting some violation or charges if you do really insist.
They wont really be making such laws or prohibitions if they do saw that it will really be giving out some negative effects.Illegal places do really exist in spite even if the government
of said country do really legalize gambling on where there are business owners will really be trying to evade taxation via means on building those illegal ones.
It is just right that those illegal or not registered will really be hunt down.

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March 10, 2021, 11:56:26 PM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
They can make it legal but if those operators are not willing to follow such laws, they have no choice but to hide and be in the chase because of being declared as illegal activity.
Also, the country or the place if there's a certain locale rule about gambling, even if they want to become legal, that will stop them from being legal if it's related to religious or traditional setup. In that way, they have to find a better place where they're welcomed.
These illegal operators will be very confident if they know the government has struggle in cracking down illegal gambling operators. It should start from the government or the regulators itself, if they showed their strict implementation, then those running illegal casinos will hesitate as they might face a serious consequences.
The government are doing their thing if we're going to talk about their side. But I think both have their own shortcomings in, the other isn't willing to follow.
While the other is doing their thing but not enforcing what they have to enforce. It varies from situation to situation and if they are strict, then that should make the operators stop and not willing cooperate and coordinate with them.
Once government do take out some action then you wont really be having any choice but to follow it or would totally be getting some violation or charges if you do really insist.
They wont really be making such laws or prohibitions if they do saw that it will really be giving out some negative effects.Illegal places do really exist in spite even if the government
of said country do really legalize gambling on where there are business owners will really be trying to evade taxation via means on building those illegal ones.
It is just right that those illegal or not registered will really be hunt down.

Better follow the government's regulations, else, forget to have gambling business. You are right, if you don't want to hide and run, just follow what is needed to legalized your business. It is tiring if you are always on the run. The government just want to get what is right as you also want to earn a living. You can also operate better if you know no one is after you.
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March 11, 2021, 02:06:01 AM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
Not only it will be many times more easier they will get some taxes out of gambling which are so needed during this time, due to the pandemic and the economic effects that it brought governments are facing a lot of trouble, they should not be wasting their time trying to apply such restrictions especially against a hobby like gambling that is enjoyed by the majority of people without any repercussions, and for the few that suffer from a gambling disorder they can use part of the money they get in taxes to help them to overcome those problems.
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March 11, 2021, 03:30:39 AM
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Not only it will be many times more easier they will get some taxes out of gambling which are so needed during this time, due to the pandemic and the economic effects that it brought governments are facing a lot of trouble, they should not be wasting their time trying to apply such restrictions especially against a hobby like gambling that is enjoyed by the majority of people without any repercussions, and for the few that suffer from a gambling disorder they can use part of the money they get in taxes to help them to overcome those problems.

Here in India, the government has increased the taxes on alcohol. But no one seems to be having a problem with it, and most of us understand that the government revenues have gone down during the pandemic period and they need to increase the taxes. But in Thailand, the situation is different. They are using the pandemic as an excuse to further clamp down on the gambling industry. I am afraid that they are going in the wrong direction and this move will have just the opposite effect than what it is intended to bring.

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March 11, 2021, 04:44:07 AM
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Would be much easier just to make gambling legal, that way you will avoid all the illegal gambling problems and you have more supervision.
You will also avoid money laundering that way.
Not only it will be many times more easier they will get some taxes out of gambling which are so needed during this time, due to the pandemic and the economic effects that it brought governments are facing a lot of trouble, they should not be wasting their time trying to apply such restrictions especially against a hobby like gambling that is enjoyed by the majority of people without any repercussions, and for the few that suffer from a gambling disorder they can use part of the money they get in taxes to help them to overcome those problems.

If our business is legal, we don't have to worry about the government because they will protect us from the corrupt officials who want to ask for the "security money." By having legal gambling, it can also help the government get additional income to help the country's economy, which can also help all people in this pandemic. But still, it is hard to eliminate illegal gambling because many people are not telling the officials where that place is. They don't want to tell because they can bond with the government's regulation, and they need to pay the taxes. The owner of illegal gambling doesn't want to pay on that taxes, so they don't want to cooperate with the government and hide their business.
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March 11, 2021, 01:25:24 PM
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The government are doing their thing if we're going to talk about their side. But I think both have their own shortcomings in, the other isn't willing to follow.
While the other is doing their thing but not enforcing what they have to enforce. It varies from situation to situation and if they are strict, then that should make the operators stop and not willing cooperate and coordinate with them.
Once government do take out some action then you wont really be having any choice but to follow it or would totally be getting some violation or charges if you do really insist.
They wont really be making such laws or prohibitions if they do saw that it will really be giving out some negative effects.Illegal places do really exist in spite even if the government
of said country do really legalize gambling on where there are business owners will really be trying to evade taxation via means on building those illegal ones.
It is just right that those illegal or not registered will really be hunt down.
Yes, they will be hunted down by the government if they don't want to follow what's with the law says about their operation. I've understood why some of them don't want to cooperate and keeps on remaining illegal because of the tax and possible under the table money that the corrupt officials would ask them. Since it is related to gambling, it's not hidden anymore that there really are people who would milk them because they knew it that profits in gambling for the operators are quite good.

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March 12, 2021, 03:35:08 AM
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Yes, they will be hunted down by the government if they don't want to follow what's with the law says about their operation. I've understood why some of them don't want to cooperate and keeps on remaining illegal because of the tax and possible under the table money that the corrupt officials would ask them. Since it is related to gambling, it's not hidden anymore that there really are people who would milk them because they knew it that profits in gambling for the operators are quite good.

If someone is operating an illegal casino despite the ban, then you can assume that he'll be having powerful connections (either with the politicians or with the police officials). Corruption is very prevalent in Asian countries (perhaps with the exception of Japan and Singapore), and Thailand is no different. The only outcome from this ban is going to be the shift of gambling industry from legal or semi-legal sector to the underground sector. The ordinary gamblers will face an increased risk of becoming victims of fraud, and the government will lose valuable tax revenue.

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Yes, they will be hunted down by the government if they don't want to follow what's with the law says about their operation. I've understood why some of them don't want to cooperate and keeps on remaining illegal because of the tax and possible under the table money that the corrupt officials would ask them. Since it is related to gambling, it's not hidden anymore that there really are people who would milk them because they knew it that profits in gambling for the operators are quite good.

If someone is operating an illegal casino despite the ban, then you can assume that he'll be having powerful connections (either with the politicians or with the police officials). Corruption is very prevalent in Asian countries (perhaps with the exception of Japan and Singapore), and Thailand is no different. The only outcome from this ban is going to be the shift of gambling industry from legal or semi-legal sector to the underground sector. The ordinary gamblers will face an increased risk of becoming victims of fraud, and the government will lose valuable tax revenue.
That's already an illegal operation during the ban if they operate and even without the ban if they're not permitted for doing so, that's illegal which will make them pay more what the permission has to be paid. It is the common scene that we know when there are operations keep happening and if people knew that they're illegal and people come and by there, they would really be assumed that they're protected by high position officials.

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March 12, 2021, 11:16:18 PM
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If someone is operating an illegal casino despite the ban, then you can assume that he'll be having powerful connections (either with the politicians or with the police officials). Corruption is very prevalent in Asian countries (perhaps with the exception of Japan and Singapore), and Thailand is no different. The only outcome from this ban is going to be the shift of gambling industry from legal or semi-legal sector to the underground sector. The ordinary gamblers will face an increased risk of becoming victims of fraud, and the government will lose valuable tax revenue.

Yes, when the government intervenes in the relations of adults, it always only hurts. If a person is considered mentally healthy, then he is free to decide where and how to spend his money. All these regulations and prohibitions waste taxpayers' resources and squeeze honest citizens into semi-criminal and criminal spheres.

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