Thailand government seeks measures to tackle the problems of illegal gambling.

[KTChampions]

Lottery is completely upon luck. We take the ticket, and wait for the announcement of the winner through random pick of lotteries. Yes, lotteries have a fixed value and there is no need to risk big amounts to receive big return as we do with casinos. Different forms of lotteries are in usage around the globe. As users stated, lottery is just a game, which is being played regularly by people depending on luck nothing more than that. There are rare incidents where people have made calculations on the buying of tickets and succeeded.

The fact that they did some calculations does not mean that it had any impact on the result. Many players think that they have a "system" and they will beat the lottery/casino, but in fact everything is going as it should go according to math. I do not mean those cases where errors were made in the lottery number generator or in the casino software.

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[maydna]

definitely, govt cant get tax the black market. but the govt should reconsider how they approach the gambling community. they can always legalise it in a way, it is not too taxing for the owners as we are still in crisis. these business owners will be forced to follow the legal process in order to continue their business. so it is a win-win situation for the govt and business owners. they need to thrive both during these times to support their people.

I think the owners better not be forced to follow the legal process, but the government can provide a solution that will provide them with benefits by getting legal with the government. It is like legalizing their business by following the government's procedure so that they can run their business without worry. Legal can prevent bribing corrupt officials, and they can give the money for paying the tax. The government needs to find ways to benefit illegal gambling to follow them, and the government can get more taxes. If much illegal gambling can follow the government's suggestions, it can give the country the income to help them survive in these times.

[uneng]

definitely, govt cant get tax the black market. but the govt should reconsider how they approach the gambling community. they can always legalise it in a way, it is not too taxing for the owners as we are still in crisis. these business owners will be forced to follow the legal process in order to continue their business. so it is a win-win situation for the govt and business owners. they need to thrive both during these times to support their people.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there is no way for illegal casinos to be legalized in Thailand, because only horse races and national government lottery is allowed there. Any other kind of casino game won't be able to be legalized even if the owners paid the necessary taxes to run the business. It would be a win-win situation if the government was open-minded regards gambling activity.
Thailand government is so strict about this subject that individuals can't own more than 120 playing cards.
If you own 3 decks you are already in trouble!
Playing Cards Act

[Reatim]

i believe that a country somewhere in Europe also has this same issue last year? when they are extending the Illegal gambling fight in their region?

though i cant remember it well and cant find the thread i'm sure European country is also moving in this actions.

Thailand Make it better in having this measures because many countries in Asia specially those who had Chinese Businesses or operators comes with illegal businesses also.

[Wexnident]

I think the owners better not be forced to follow the legal process, but the government can provide a solution that will provide them with benefits by getting legal with the government. It is like legalizing their business by following the government's procedure so that they can run their business without worry. Legal can prevent bribing corrupt officials, and they can give the money for paying the tax. The government needs to find ways to benefit illegal gambling to follow them, and the government can get more taxes. If much illegal gambling can follow the government's suggestions, it can give the country the income to help them survive in these times.

I think it isn't an issue of money or anything, just of morality itself. Not from Thailand, but I suppose by the fact that they haven't legalized allowing casinos under their country, it seems to me that the government there generally frowns upon it, whether it could bring profit or not isn't really a matter they would take into account. Although I do agree with legalizing it instead of letting it stay as illegal, it also means that they basically gave in to the community of gamblers, which may paint them as an irresponsible government (at least, in their own eyes).

[Mauser]

i believe that a country somewhere in Europe also has this same issue last year? when they are extending the Illegal gambling fight in their region?

though i cant remember it well and cant find the thread i'm sure European country is also moving in this actions.

Thailand Make it better in having this measures because many countries in Asia specially those who had Chinese Businesses or operators comes with illegal businesses also.

The big problem is that we can't travel at the moment. If you really wanted to gamble you could have just gotten on to a plane to Macau and gamble legal. But right now we are stuck at home and using a casino locally might be illegal. So we are kind of forced into online gambling even though its illegal. Which makes it very hard for the government to control the Internet.

[KTChampions]

Fortunately, we have online gambling or sports betting websites that we can use to bet on our favorite sports or visit the crypto gambling site, so we can still playing gambling from home. That will be safe for us as we do not have to go to other places, and we do not have to worry about the government's regulations as they will hard to control their people to gambling using the internet.

The problem is that the Internet becomes more and more regulated every year and soon it will be necessary to create some new protocols for decentralized interaction of people. The existing methods for bypassing blocking are no longer enough. Perhaps the crypto will be the prototype for this new network.

[maydna]

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I think it isn't an issue of money or anything, just of morality itself. Not from Thailand, but I suppose by the fact that they haven't legalized allowing casinos under their country, it seems to me that the government there generally frowns upon it, whether it could bring profit or not isn't really a matter they would take into account. Although I do agree with legalizing it instead of letting it stay as illegal, it also means that they basically gave in to the community of gamblers, which may paint them as an irresponsible government (at least, in their own eyes).

Perhaps, the government can educate them about the danger of playing gambling. Instead of saving their money to buy their daily needs, they just use it for playing gambling, which they can't always win. It needs awareness from people themselves to know that playing gambling needs responsibility to control themselves and not use the money for their needs. By legalizing illegal gambling, the government can get more income from the gambling business, which can be their additional income source.

[Xinarae*]

Casinos are illegal not only in Thailand but in many countries of the world gamblers gamble to meet their social and economic needs if you think from the person's place there are many benefits to gambling in a casino. There is no limit to participation or income in gambling there is no time constraint there is no such thing as hard work that is a person can earn a lot of money without going through any difficult rules. But the reality is that without gambling skills it can be detrimental and you can lose everything and become your own it is easier to deal with if the government has legitimacy.

[Fredomago]

Fortunately, we have online gambling or sports betting websites that we can use to bet on our favorite sports or visit the crypto gambling site, so we can still playing gambling from home. That will be safe for us as we do not have to go to other places, and we do not have to worry about the government's regulations as they will hard to control their people to gambling using the internet.

The problem is that the Internet becomes more and more regulated every year and soon it will be necessary to create some new protocols for decentralized interaction of people. The existing methods for bypassing blocking are no longer enough. Perhaps the crypto will be the prototype for this new network.

Censorship if the government insist to add more strict rules is very possible, Internet access are not exempted if the government really take it seriously.

Gambling though is a big market  and adding more rules to really combat those illegal facilitator needs to have a strong iron hands.

If Thai's leadership are serious about this, they can use all channels of the government to start tracking those onshore and offshore gambling activities government if they are really going to bring this down have all the means and power inside their own country.

[just_Alice]

I think the owners better not be forced to follow the legal process, but the government can provide a solution that will provide them with benefits by getting legal with the government. It is like legalizing their business by following the government's procedure so that they can run their business without worry. Legal can prevent bribing corrupt officials, and they can give the money for paying the tax. The government needs to find ways to benefit illegal gambling to follow them, and the government can get more taxes. If much illegal gambling can follow the government's suggestions, it can give the country the income to help them survive in these times.

I think it isn't an issue of money or anything, just of morality itself. Not from Thailand, but I suppose by the fact that they haven't legalized allowing casinos under their country, it seems to me that the government there generally frowns upon it, whether it could bring profit or not isn't really a matter they would take into account. Although I do agree with legalizing it instead of letting it stay as illegal, it also means that they basically gave in to the community of gamblers, which may paint them as an irresponsible government (at least, in their own eyes).

If you're talking about morality driven by religious views in the country - then Thailand shouldn't be against gambling. In Thailand, the vast majority of people follow Buddhism, which, unlike Islam, doesn't forbid gambling.

If you mean morality in the sense that the government takes care of citizens and worries about their financial state, emotional health, then why don't they ban alcohol instead? It literally kills people, undermines their health, and accounts for numerous accidents. As for me, alcohol abuse is way more common and much worse, than gambling.

[Silberman]

definitely, govt cant get tax the black market. but the govt should reconsider how they approach the gambling community. they can always legalise it in a way, it is not too taxing for the owners as we are still in crisis. these business owners will be forced to follow the legal process in order to continue their business. so it is a win-win situation for the govt and business owners. they need to thrive both during these times to support their people.

It's kind of a difficult situation for the government of Thailand, while I can understand why they may want to close down casinos that are not following their regulations a good compromise could be to allow those casinos to keep operating as long as they began to pay their taxes and they followed all the necessary regulations that every single casino needs to adhere in the country, but we must understand that many if not all of those that operate those illegal casinos are not interested in complying and if you give them a chance they will just disappear and create another casino as soon as they have the chance.

[Bitcoinislife09]

If they having a problem in quarantine to prevent the COVID-19 from spreading the virus in Thailand they should definitely close every possible business that is not necessary just to contain or quarantine the virus. But they should manage to close all of the illegal gambling first before closing the legal gambling businesses. Legal gambling casinos might comply to open but it seems good since the government is thinking to close this casino because of the pandemic in other countries mostly governments would just care about the money.

[ecnalubma]

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

[jaberwock]

The problem is that the Internet becomes more and more regulated every year and soon it will be necessary to create some new protocols for decentralized interaction of people. The existing methods for bypassing blocking are no longer enough. Perhaps the crypto will be the prototype for this new network.

Well blocking sites and messengers will never help because new ones are created daily and you cannot block all the new sites. Personally if you ask me I do not see any problem if people earning money are throwing in on the casino tables because it is their earned money and they should be allowed to do whatever they want.

Crypto has helped illegal gambling a lot, I am not saying bitcoin was made for illegal purposes but because of the decentralized nature it somehow helped fueling the illegal gambling. Even today with so much control one can just make an account on any of the gambling casinos, make their bets and if the casino is honest they don't even ask any questions to approve massive amounts of withdrawals.

[madnessteat]

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

[DarkDays]

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

Precisely. There are ways to reduce gambling, and if the stats are correct circa 70% of the entire population being involved in gambling, then this is clear call for immediate measures.

Without knowing the situation, gambling in many parts of the world is tightly regulated and if Thailand was to take control over their situation, then it would need to take careful steps considering that the majority of the people will not be in favour.

[Sithara007]

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

Gambling is one of those trades that you can't eradicate. Humans have been indulging in gambling for many thousands of years and just because the government makes it illegal, it won't vanish. If the involvement of criminal gangs is the main issue, then the government must work in that direction. Banning gambling all together in order to combat the gangs sounds like disproportionate as well as inefficient response. Essentially the government is trying to hide its incompetence in dealing with the gangs.

[Janation]

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

That would be really hard to accomplish.

The same as corruption, I don't think it would be that easy to be able to take down these illegal gambling as there are a lot of people that for sure back them in these kinds of activities that might be a member of the government. In our country, gambling is not illegal but there are this illegal cockfighting and some of them could just get out because an officer knew them or someone close to these officers talk them out for their freedom.

[bitterguy28]

The big problem is that we can't travel at the moment. If you really wanted to gamble you could have just gotten on to a plane to Macau and gamble legal. But right now we are stuck at home and using a casino locally might be illegal. So we are kind of forced into online gambling even though its illegal. Which makes it very hard for the government to control the Internet.

What do you mean that in your country gambling is illegal ? but Thailand only extend their measures from the Illegal gambling sites and stations but it is not illegal totally.

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

Precisely. There are ways to reduce gambling, and if the stats are correct circa 70% of the entire population being involved in gambling, then this is clear call for immediate measures.

As long as legal gambling why does the government cares? they are only curious now because of the illegal gambling and  not the whole institutions .

Without knowing the situation, gambling in many parts of the world is tightly regulated and if Thailand was to take control over their situation, then it would need to take careful steps considering that the majority of the people will not be in favour.

People cannot do anything if the law will be implemented , people are tend to follow.