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January 26, 2021, 02:51:31 PM
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Shut down the illegal gambling will not succeed because there will be much more illegal gambling running in a secret place without the government knows. Maybe the government does not need to shut down the illegal gambling, but they can use another approach to the owner and give an offer that can benefit the owner and the government.
Run into a secret place or not, they'll take them down. Why do you think illegal gambling shouldn't shutdown? The owner should be the one to approach the government.

Not the government approaching and pleasing them to become legal. That's why they are illegal, they're up to something against the law.



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January 26, 2021, 02:55:13 PM
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If what they consider "gambling" are businesses that allow or encourage customers to take big risk then I think it's OK they eliminate gambling altogether. But if the government considers all kinds of bettings as "gambling" then I think they should only allow the Safe Betting Businesses. That will probably mean a massive regulation of the Betting/Prediction Market to reduce or eliminate things that may be harmful to customers and society in general. 

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January 26, 2021, 03:51:41 PM
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https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/10900/thailand-government-announces-sub-committees-to-combat-illegal-gambling

 
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There is a lot of gambling in Thailand. An estimated 70 percent of adults gamble regularly, and the total value added involved is huge—possibly over 200 billion baht a year. With some small exceptions, all of this gambling activity is illegal.


Now most of the activities are illegal , so the government would shut down these businesses and at the same time might force some of them to work towards legally starting a new casino , which would be in the favour of the government. Though I don't understand why the revenues is so high ? Since most small businesses won't be able to handle such restrictions.

I do believe that the government with regards to shutting down such business should also think about decreasing the tax revenues for them since most of them are small shop owners and they will continue to do so legally or illegally what matters is how better the government integrates it in the society.

What do you think ?
Should they make reforms before shutting down the whole thing ? I think this could benefit people and the government as a whole.


Regarding the legality of these gambling businesses, only the government of Thailand could decide. Especially during this pandemic.
However, stipulation with regards to the permits and tax required should be done in my opinion, to give way for both businesses and government.
Truly, with the 70% of the adults who gambles, the nation could benefit by taking on its economic benefits like as employment opportunities.

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January 26, 2021, 09:28:31 PM
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Now let's look at some quote taken from google :
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There is a lot of gambling in Thailand. An estimated 70 percent of adults gamble regularly, and the total value added involved is huge—possibly over 200 billion baht a year. With some small exceptions, all of this gambling activity is illegal.
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70 percent of thai adults?  Shocked Wow that's a really high rate! What's your exact source for those figures please?
It implies that most of thaï women are regular gamblers too. That's crazy!

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January 26, 2021, 09:56:12 PM
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Now let's look at some quote taken from google :
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There is a lot of gambling in Thailand. An estimated 70 percent of adults gamble regularly, and the total value added involved is huge—possibly over 200 billion baht a year. With some small exceptions, all of this gambling activity is illegal.
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70 percent of thai adults?  Shocked Wow that's a really high rate! What's your exact source for those figures please?
It implies that most of thaï women are regular gamblers too. That's crazy!
Maybe he do get those figures or percentage on these websites.

https://www.mdgasiapacific.org/gambling-in-thailand/gambling-in-thailand-market/

"The national lottery game is a primary game which is played by the Thailand players. Thailand initiates strict laws to play the game. In a recent survey, approximately 70% of the adult populations gamble regularly."


It hasnt been clarified if women is included into this one though.


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January 26, 2021, 10:17:30 PM
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"The national lottery game is a primary game which is played by the Thailand players. Thailand initiates strict laws to play the game. In a recent survey, approximately 70% of the adult populations gamble regularly."[/b]

It hasnt been clarified if women is included into this one though.



With this figure I don't think the Thailand government can curb gambling activities in their country, it's just to high to contain, they will have to allocate a lot of manpower just to to contain gambling and I don't think they can even do that to 50% of the population that is involved in gambling, they should address this issue differently.

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January 26, 2021, 11:38:20 PM
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If they have a mature regulatory framework in place, then sure.

If not, then how are they ever going to enforce a crackdown? The demand for gambling won't just disappear overnight because of a restriction the government put in.

In terms of the motivations, I don't think that this has anything to do with COVID. More likely than not, this is simply a way for the government to assert its control over the industry in order to reap tax revenues, which is fair enough to them - but they obviously need a better sounding reason than that.
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"The national lottery game is a primary game which is played by the Thailand players. Thailand initiates strict laws to play the game. In a recent survey, approximately 70% of the adult populations gamble regularly."[/b]

It hasnt been clarified if women is included into this one though.



With this figure I don't think the Thailand government can curb gambling activities in their country, it's just to high to contain, they will have to allocate a lot of manpower just to to contain gambling and I don't think they can even do that to 50% of the population that is involved in gambling, they should address this issue differently.

With such amount of people who gamble there are many illegal facilitators that will take the risk of opening their own platforms.
It's tough call for the government to supress this people and like what you have said, if they really planning to succeed with this
action, they needed to add more manpower not just for primary role but also those behind it's a lot of workloads to everyone.

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January 27, 2021, 04:23:45 AM
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"The national lottery game is a primary game which is played by the Thailand players. Thailand initiates strict laws to play the game. In a recent survey, approximately 70% of the adult populations gamble regularly."[/b]

It hasnt been clarified if women is included into this one though.
With this figure I don't think the Thailand government can curb gambling activities in their country, it's just to high to contain, they will have to allocate a lot of manpower just to to contain gambling and I don't think they can even do that to 50% of the population that is involved in gambling, they should address this issue differently.

It is difficult to curb gambling activities in that country since 70% of the adult population gamble regularly. That means they enjoy playing gambling while they also have a hope to win from the lottery game. If they need to have many human resources, they can open recruitment to people in every city in that country. I think that can also help people who already lost their job before to try to fill the position. It can solve the problem that many people face to make money again by sign in as the employee.
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Shut down the illegal gambling will not succeed because there will be much more illegal gambling running in a secret place without the government knows. Maybe the government does not need to shut down the illegal gambling, but they can use another approach to the owner and give an offer that can benefit the owner and the government.
Run into a secret place or not, they'll take them down. Why do you think illegal gambling shouldn't shutdown? The owner should be the one to approach the government.

Not the government approaching and pleasing them to become legal. That's why they are illegal, they're up to something against the law.
It will relate to many people out there who want to play gambling, but they do not want to get a formal situation. If the government can use a different approach to the owner and invite them to communicate, I think they will realize that they do not have to be an illegal gambling place.

Illegal gambling is against the law because they do not register their place to the government, and the owner does not want to pay any taxes. But they pay the fee to some people who have the power to protect them from the law. If the government can use this to give the owner a chance to be on the government side, it could give more income to the government, and the owner does not have to worry or worry if they break the law.

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January 29, 2021, 01:12:00 AM
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Now let's look at some quote taken from google :
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There is a lot of gambling in Thailand. An estimated 70 percent of adults gamble regularly, and the total value added involved is huge—possibly over 200 billion baht a year. With some small exceptions, all of this gambling activity is illegal.
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70 percent of thai adults?  Shocked Wow that's a really high rate! What's your exact source for those figures please?
It implies that most of thaï women are regular gamblers too. That's crazy!
Maybe he do get those figures or percentage on these websites.

https://www.mdgasiapacific.org/gambling-in-thailand/gambling-in-thailand-market/

"The national lottery game is a primary game which is played by the Thailand players. Thailand initiates strict laws to play the game. In a recent survey, approximately 70% of the adult populations gamble regularly."


It hasnt been clarified if women is included into this one though.
Thank you for the link.
Well if they include national lottery games in what they call "gambling" I'm a little bit less surprised after all.

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January 29, 2021, 03:39:07 AM
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Thank you for the link.
Well if they include national lottery games in what they call "gambling" I'm a little bit less surprised after all.

Lottery is a form of gambling. Do you want to consider only casino games under this category? And that is one of the reasons why other forms of gambling are banned in Thailand. The profits from national lottery goes to the government. And as far as I know, less than 25% of the revenue from the ticket sales are used for the prize pool. It is like a casino having house advantage of 75%. And therefore it is not surprising that they don't want competitors in that field.

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All countries of Southeast Asia and not just Thailand has an enormous gambling problem. I am not sure for the muslim countries but in the Philippines as well, we have a big illegal gambling activity for many many years now. All the presidents since the '60s I think have tried it but failed. Cockfighting was illegal before but right now it was legalized but with certain conditions. Most common illegal gambling activities would be the electronic horse races and also what we call Jueteng which is a numbers game. Maybe the situation is similar in Thailand possibly with racing and illegal lotteries.

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January 29, 2021, 04:48:54 AM
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All countries of Southeast Asia and not just Thailand has an enormous gambling problem. I am not sure for the muslim countries but in the Philippines as well, we have a big illegal gambling activity for many many years now. All the presidents since the '60s I think have tried it but failed. Cockfighting was illegal before but right now it was legalized but with certain conditions. Most common illegal gambling activities would be the electronic horse races and also what we call Jueteng which is a numbers game. Maybe the situation is similar in Thailand possibly with racing and illegal lotteries.

Nost gambling forms in the Philippines which was illegal had been permitted by the government with certain restrictions. Gambling is a big industry and it will be impossible to fully control or stop such activities, so they chose to govern and make it legal and give some restrictions so that they can also benefit from it through taxes. Which is a win-win situation for gamblers and the government. Gambling is part of our culture, even with the government's restriction people will find ways to gamble.
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Nost gambling forms in the Philippines which was illegal had been permitted by the government with certain restrictions. Gambling is a big industry and it will be impossible to fully control or stop such activities, so they chose to govern and make it legal and give some restrictions so that they can also benefit from it through taxes. Which is a win-win situation for gamblers and the government. Gambling is part of our culture, even with the government's restriction people will find ways to gamble.
They are not even to stop because of the authorities' laxity. The sad thing is that some of the authorities are running such illegal gambling, who wants to stop them, none? It is just the way we think that illegal gambling will still exist for the next generation and I don't believe there was an end to this issue.

As the spread of gambling continues, more young adults get into trouble and addiction. It's up for us to stop our own rather than to stop the whole thing of gambling. Less hopes it become possible since the government also benefiting from this.

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It's good to see OP that you are searching the world in regards gambling regulation , From Argentina ,Japan and Cambodia ? and now it is Thailand that you are spreading the gambling news .

But this is one of the most interesting because this tackles Illegal gambling that we knew how damaging the taxation of the government.

Hope that they will End this even not totally but at least more than half will be put to Justice.









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January 29, 2021, 06:41:56 AM
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Well if they include national lottery games in what they call "gambling" I'm a little bit less surprised after all.

What do you mean by here? A lottery is a form of gambling. By far, it's the biggest legal gambling in every country.

In most countries, lotteries are backed by a government. Some proceeds here are used in infrastructures, charities, and many more.

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January 29, 2021, 07:20:40 AM
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What do you mean by here? A lottery is a form of gambling. By far, it's the biggest legal gambling in every country.

In most countries, lotteries are backed by a government. Some proceeds here are used in infrastructures, charities, and many more.
I agree with you, legal casinos are profitable just like the lottery because our government gets something from it.  And the lottery company itself can assist just like medical and charity work.

As for the closure of illegal gambling in Thailand, it really should be shut down because it is illegal.  And let them continue to operate legally and licensed gambling because even if they involve small gambling businesses, they will lose their jobs, especially if this is what they expect daily.  It also depends on how the steps their government will take, whether the outcome will be successful.  They just tighten the rules instead of closing them, just like having a limit or number of clients or customers, and schedule the opening and closing of the casino.  Of course, followers must also adhere to the applicable laws or protocols and apply the discipline to themselves.

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January 29, 2021, 08:19:10 AM
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Now let's look at some quote taken from google :
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There is a lot of gambling in Thailand. An estimated 70 percent of adults gamble regularly, and the total value added involved is huge—possibly over 200 billion baht a year. With some small exceptions, all of this gambling activity is illegal.
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70 percent of thai adults?  Shocked Wow that's a really high rate! What's your exact source for those figures please?
It implies that most of thaï women are regular gamblers too. That's crazy!
I doubt it's up that percentage. Even the safe bettors who bet regularly would not be upto that percentage atall, not to talk of 70% of the country's adult population engage in very risk bettings. It's possible that number of people who bet occasionally in the country is up to that percentage though. Calling 70% of the adults gamblers (gamblers in betting) is likely an exaggeration

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January 29, 2021, 10:13:03 AM
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See this is why most gambling should shift to a online platform.. even the small street corner gambling operations should shift to mobile phones. So that you can still gamble against your friends from the safety of your home.  Wink

Where are the software developers? Why can they not create an online version of these street games and then create an option where you can group friends together to gamble in a safe way? (They can take 1% of each round that are played to cover their expense for hosting these games and the players can get the lion share of the winnings)  Wink

Make this decentralized so that the governments cannot shut it down.  Cool

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