94 year old healthy woman gets the vaccine.

[BADecker]

Substantially over 1000 deaths from the vaccine. These are just the ones we know about.

Oh, sure. Nobody did much of any testing to determine if it really was the vaccine. But the timing shows that it was.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/cna-nursing-home-whistleblower-seniors-are-dying-like-flies-after-covid-injections-speak-out/

Videos - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/HealthImpactNews/

Vaccine Syndrome: How the Experimental Anthrax Vaccine Killed 35,000 Military Men and Women - https://www.bitchute.com/video/IFVeYUExDJzJ/. Why would the Covid vaccine be any different? Just not enough time, yet, to prove it out through the actual deaths happening. Probably the flu vaccine has killed way more than this over the years.

[Cnut237]

Experimental Anthrax Vaccine Killed 35,000 Military Men and Women [...] Why would the Covid vaccine be any different?

"Smallpox is estimated to have killed up to 300 million people in the 20th century and around 500 million people in the last 100 years of its existence, as well as six monarchs. As recently as 1967, 15 million cases occurred a year."

Smallpox has now been eradicated. Why would the Covid vaccine be any different?

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Of course I'm being flippant, but it's a fair point. In practice the Covid vaccine is more likely to be similar to the flu vaccine, and probably administered as an annual shot to cover new variants. Covid is unlikely to be eradicated, but the vaccine will be a life saver on a huge scale.

[virasog]

My partner has a 94 year old friend. She is healthy and active, and has an alert mind. She has no health issues other than poor eyesight. Her daughter pushed her into having the Covid vaccine, even though she is self-isolating and gas no symptoms. Within 5 days she has been rushed to hospital with diarrhoea and other medical problems. This is yet another case of the murderous so-called health services that are pushing their poisons to enrich the pharma companies.

If she is healthy, she should not have opted to get vaccinated for covid-19. I wish her get well soon.  We have discussed many times here that no covid-19 vaccine is reliable and we should avoid it. The  pharma company are no longer the ones which are meant to save people life, they only want their business running at any cost.

[o_e_l_e_o]

We have discussed many times here that no covid-19 vaccine is reliable and we should avoid it.

False. Largest study to date of 1.2 million people confirms Pfizer's vaccine is 94% effective: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765

[Poker Player]

What I see in this topic are visceral positions that are closed to evidence. On any topic under debate I may have a prior opinion or a first opinion in view of the initial facts, but I am open to the fact that the evidence may change it.

The opposite is prejudice.

Here I see prejudices that are slapped in the face by reality and yet refuse to change.

[BADecker]

We have discussed many times here that no covid-19 vaccine is reliable and we should avoid it.

False. Largest study to date of 1.2 million people confirms Pfizer's vaccine is 94% effective: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765

This probably really does have some meaning to somebody somewhere. But by the time we figure out what the meaning is, and compare it with all the sideways potential and possible meanings, it'l be the 25th century.

Results

Each study group included 596,618 persons. Estimated vaccine effectiveness for the study outcomes at days 14 through 20 after the first dose and at 7 or more days after the second dose was as follows: for documented infection, 46% (95% confidence interval [CI], 40 to 51) and 92% (95% CI, 88 to 95); for symptomatic Covid-19, 57% (95% CI, 50 to 63) and 94% (95% CI, 87 to 98); for hospitalization, 74% (95% CI, 56 to 86) and 87% (95% CI, 55 to 100); and for severe disease, 62% (95% CI, 39 to 80) and 92% (95% CI, 75 to 100), respectively. Estimated effectiveness in preventing death from Covid-19 was 72% (95% CI, 19 to 100) for days 14 through 20 after the first dose. Estimated effectiveness in specific subpopulations assessed for documented infection and symptomatic Covid-19 was consistent across age groups, with potentially slightly lower effectiveness in persons with multiple coexisting conditions.

[o_e_l_e_o]

This probably really does have some meaning to somebody somewhere. But by the time we figure out what the meaning is, and compare it with all the sideways potential and possible meanings, it'l be the 25th century.

Documented infections - 46% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses
Symptomatic infections - 57% reduction after 1 dose, 94% after 2 doses
Hospitalizations - 74% reduction after 1 dose, 87% after 2 doses
Severe disease - 62% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses

Don't confuse your inability to understand the science as meaning the science is somehow flawed or inaccurate. The facts are very clear.

[BADecker]

This probably really does have some meaning to somebody somewhere. But by the time we figure out what the meaning is, and compare it with all the sideways potential and possible meanings, it'l be the 25th century.

Documented infections - 46% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses
Symptomatic infections - 57% reduction after 1 dose, 94% after 2 doses
Hospitalizations - 74% reduction after 1 dose, 87% after 2 doses
Severe disease - 62% reduction after 1 dose, 92% after 2 doses

Don't confuse your inability to understand the science as meaning the science is somehow flawed or inaccurate. The facts are very clear.

Well, thank you. Now that we have all this info, we can compare it with how many of them got sick from the vaccine, and for how long, and how many other things they caught that they wouldn't have gotten. But most of all, this tells us what happened 5 years down the road because of the vaccine, right?

[o_e_l_e_o]

Well, thank you. Now that we have all this info, we can compare it with how many of them got sick from the vaccine, and for how long, and how many other things they caught that they wouldn't have gotten.

Certainly. Please provide a link to the data which show millions of people "catching other things" because of the vaccine. I'm sure you have those data to hand. No way you are just making stuff up, right!?

[BADecker]

Well, thank you. Now that we have all this info, we can compare it with how many of them got sick from the vaccine, and for how long, and how many other things they caught that they wouldn't have gotten.

Certainly. Please provide a link to the data which show millions of people "catching other things" because of the vaccine. I'm sure you have those data to hand. No way you are just making stuff up, right!?

Good. Now that we know how safe this so-called vaccine is, especially when comparing the safety and effectiveness to all the nutritional controls, we can safely cross the vaccine off our list.

[o_e_l_e_o]

As I thought. No evidence for position, just mindless ramblings. Glad you finally understand that the vaccine is safe though.

[BADecker]

As I thought. No evidence for position, just mindless ramblings. Glad you finally understand that the vaccine is safe though.

As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

[Natsuu]

As I thought. No evidence for position, just mindless ramblings. Glad you finally understand that the vaccine is safe though.

As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

Vaccine is not a medicine, its a preventive measure for the virus. simple knowledge my dear.

[franky1]

As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

paracetemol has been around for many many decades. but it is not a cure for a gunshot.
it wont prevent gunshots

a malaria drug that handles parasites in the gut wont help virus in the lung

they tried it. it didnt work. people are still getting severely ill, needing to be intubated and dying. if there was a cure they would have used it

[BADecker]

As I thought, no evidence for safety, or comparison of with the many nutritional and other, simpler medicines that work better, safely.

paracetemol has been around for many many decades. but it is not a cure for a gunshot.
it wont prevent gunshots

a malaria drug that handles parasites in the gut wont help virus in the lung

Interesting that you should say that. Standard f-1 distraction. Guns have been around for many years, but they don't cure gunshot wounds, either.

So, let's get some studies about the things that vaccines shoot and kill. Oh wait. Previous posts in this thread, and in many other threads, show links to some of those studies.

In fact, doctors and nurses around the world are warning against those things. In fact, the US government made rulings about there being such studies over 30 years ago. And nobody in Big Pharma can even come up with one study throughout the more than 30 years.

[o_e_l_e_o]

You claimed the COVID vaccine causes people to catch other diseases. Present the evidence to support your claim. Failure to do so means you are lying.

[BADecker]

You claimed the COVID vaccine causes people to catch other diseases. Present the evidence to support your claim. Failure to do so means you are lying.

Only if you want to call illness and death "other diseases."


CORONAVIRUS: WHAT THEY AREN'T TELLING YOU

Expert Scientist and M.D. Weigh in on Coronavirus Chaos; An Injured Adult on the Next ‘Ex-Vax Files’; NJ State Assemblyman Jamel Holley Joins Del In-Studio

CORONAVIRUS: WHAT THEY AREN'T TELLING YOU

https://www.brighteon.com/105ddb05-07ab-4ef8-8e08-e029dbe5e75c

[o_e_l_e_o]

A video blog by a deranged anti vax conspiracy nut is not evidence. I'll keep waiting.

[BADecker]

A video blog by a deranged anti vax conspiracy nut is not evidence. I'll keep waiting.

If you wait long enough, you might miss the vaccine, and be saved.

You don't realize that Del Bigtree is simply a "journalist." He interviews loads of professionals, doctors and professors, and they tell it like it is.

You are doing yourself an injustice.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I've already been vaccinated, thanks.

An interview is not evidence either. Links to large randomized control trials please.