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February 23, 2021, 06:12:40 PM
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⚡️Betplay.io now live! ⚡️



Hi all,

We have just gone live with our brand new Crypto currency casino, Betplay.io!

We are the industry first to announce ⚡️Bitcoin Lightning Payment⚡️, this means that you can now both deposit and withdraw your money in seconds!

We are very excited to join Bitcointalk and get as much feedback as possible from you guys for us to grow and potentially be the biggest and greatest Crypto Currency Casino.

Our goal is to always offer our players the highest RTP option that the providers offer and also have the fastest withdrawal time in the industry. We will be releasing our Cashback feature as well as our Mystery cash drop feature very soon, so keep your eyes open! On top of this we are working everyday on coming up with new fun features for our players.

Please don't hold back on your feedback and don't forget that this is a soft launch so we have time to work on your feedback and ideas! We will have a team behind this account to help you out with any questions and thoughts that you may have.

We hope you will enjoy Betplay.io as much as we do. Smiley

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February 23, 2021, 06:17:27 PM
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finally, I have something to do with my bitcoin lightning network. I will test your platform.
however, I think it would be better if you could move this thread to the gambling section.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0

or

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling > Gambling discussion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265053.0
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February 23, 2021, 06:44:49 PM
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Thanks! Try it out and give us any feedback you might have. I have moved this topic to the gambling section now  Smiley
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February 23, 2021, 07:28:00 PM
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Welcome to worlds largest crypto community Bitcointalk and good to see that you guys are happy to join this forum. I just made a short visit on your casino website and it looks overall fine to me. Specially the design and i haven’t faced any loading issues during my visit although i am not using high speed internet this time. Good to hear that your casino user will get faster withdrawal experience including new features. Keeping everything aside i can only suggest that most gamblers like to play in a trusted platform who have honest service and special care for their users. Its the only way by which you can bring players on your platform.

I hope you guys will implement more features with plenty of games before your final site launch which will helo you to get crypto oriented gamblers on your platform.

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February 23, 2021, 07:36:21 PM
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Welcome to BitcoinTalk forum, best place to advertise your service with campaigns and promotions!
Nice to hear that more and more services are accepting Lightning Network and I hope people will start to use it more than now.

Do you have any license for your casino, and do customers need to pass kyc verification for playing and withdrawing coins?

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February 23, 2021, 08:26:31 PM
Last edit: November 27, 2021, 11:49:05 AM by mprep
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Welcome to worlds largest crypto community Bitcointalk and good to see that you guys are happy to join this forum. I just made a short visit on your casino website and it looks overall fine to me. Specially the design and i haven’t faced any loading issues during my visit although i am not using high speed internet this time. Good to hear that your casino user will get faster withdrawal experience including new features. Keeping everything aside i can only suggest that most gamblers like to play in a trusted platform who have honest service and special care for their users. Its the only way by which you can bring players on your platform.

I hope you guys will implement more features with plenty of games before your final site launch which will helo you to get crypto oriented gamblers on your platform.

Note: Please spend some time by reading forum rules.

Thank you for taking a look! We have additional premium providers & games on the way, as well as more promotions and features Smiley



Welcome to BitcoinTalk forum, best place to advertise your service with campaigns and promotions!
Nice to hear that more and more services are accepting Lightning Network and I hope people will start to use it more than now.

Do you have any license for your casino, and do customers need to pass kyc verification for playing and withdrawing coins?

We also hope that more people will start to use and see how awesome Lightning Network is, it's truly a game changer for Bitcoin!

Currently we operate out of Costa Rica so we do not have a Curacao license. This might change in the future, but for now we have opted to launch & operate without a Curacao License.

We do not require any KYC for deposits or withdraw. Signing up and playing is anonymous. Withdrawals are often paid out instantly, meaning your bitcoins will be in your wallet in a matter of seconds after you request a withdraw if you use a lightning wallet. If you have a lightning wallet ready to go you can try a small deposit and withdraw in & out to verify this.

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February 23, 2021, 09:45:38 PM
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Welcome to BitcoinTalk forum, best place to advertise your service with campaigns and promotions!
Nice to hear that more and more services are accepting Lightning Network and I hope people will start to use it more than now.

Do you have any license for your casino, and do customers need to pass kyc verification for playing and withdrawing coins?

We also hope that more people will start to use and see how awesome Lightning Network is, it's truly a game changer for Bitcoin!

Currently we operate out of Costa Rica so we do not have a Curacao license. This might change in the future, but for now we have opted to launch & operate without a Curacao License.

We do not require any KYC for deposits or withdraw. Signing up and playing is anonymous. Withdrawals are often paid out instantly, meaning your bitcoins will be in your wallet in a matter of seconds after you request a withdraw if you use a lightning wallet. If you have a lightning wallet ready to go you can try a small deposit and withdraw in & out to verify this.

LN-based casino is really needed these days because of the high fees in the regular bitcoin network. though many users are not acquainted with LN, it is good that you also posted the site where they can read how to use LN. some are hesitant because they haven't used it yet. but once they get acquainted, for sure, they will like it because of the very low fees involved.
thought you dont have the Curacao license yet, but your company is a registered one in Costa Rica, right? based from the details at the bottom of your site. right now, you can focus on how to promote and attract more players in your platform. gambling license can be done later.

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February 23, 2021, 10:16:12 PM
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Doing your first lightning transaction is almost like rediscovering Bitcoin again  Smiley

Being able to quickly deposit and withdraw without paying high fees, especially for smaller amounts, is something we believe is really important for players. Not only because it is a nice experience, but you don't have to leave funds on the site when its so cheap to deposit & withdraw your funds from/to your own wallet every session.

We are registered and operating out of Costa Rica yes, and I agree with your comment. We will focus on promotions and letting user try our site first  Cool
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February 23, 2021, 10:34:08 PM
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Welcome to the forum,

It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.

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Excellent initiative op. I am a fan of LN myself even though its adoption rate is significantly low currently, but it's good to see you guys taking a risk here.

I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.

I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.

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Welcome to the forum,

It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.

Thank you for your feedback! We do offer our games in Demo mode, if you want to try them out without a deposit. Smiley



Excellent initiative op. I am a fan of LN myself even though its adoption rate is significantly low currently, but it's good to see you guys taking a risk here.

I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.

I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.

Glad you like LN! Thank you for your kind words on our design and looks. I agree on the Q&A, we will have it updated, ASAP!

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Excellent initiative op. I am a fan of LN myself even though its adoption rate is significantly low currently, but it's good to see you guys taking a risk here.

I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.

I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.

I do agree adding more items in FAQ. Though you are using LN, still it is good to know simple info like min deposit/withdrawal.
And if you are using bitcoin-on-chain, what is min depo/withdrawal? Those info sometimes are important to players especially small time players.
On the other note, when I check your aviator game, there are about 117 bets already. That's a very good start as you are just new here.
Seems that you already promoted it before you introduced it here in the forum.
But it says, there are 2 online, how come there are more than 100 bets placed?

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February 23, 2021, 11:09:35 PM
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Welcome to the forum,

It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.

Thank you for your feedback! We do offer our games in Demo mode, if you want to try them out without a deposit. Smiley

Thanks for your quick response,

If I am already on the platform, I am already testing the games in demo mode, it should be noted that the Eye of Gold game is great.

As it is a nascent casino, have you thought about running a campaign with social networks? and manage a signature campaign with a forum manager? If you look, many casinos have achieved a great margin of success under that advertising parameter.

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February 23, 2021, 11:30:00 PM
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This is nice since everyone is looking for casinos using lightning network, good that I found one. It will be great if you push marketing here to attract more users with your services. I hope more casinos will follow LN adoption its really an asap these days because of skyrocketing fees, congrats on putting LN in your platform thats huge potential.
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February 23, 2021, 11:33:09 PM
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Welcome to the forum,

It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.

Thank you for your feedback! We do offer our games in Demo mode, if you want to try them out without a deposit. Smiley

Thanks for your quick response,

If I am already on the platform, I am already testing the games in demo mode, it should be noted that the Eye of Gold game is great.

As it is a nascent casino, have you thought about running a campaign with social networks? and manage a signature campaign with a forum manager? If you look, many casinos have achieved a great margin of success under that advertising parameter.

We have indeed, we would love to run an exclusive campaign here on this forum as well later on. If you have any thoughts on that, please let me know. Smiley



This is nice since everyone is looking for casinos using lightning network, good that I found one. It will be great if you push marketing here to attract more users with your services. I hope more casinos will follow LN adoption its really an asap these days because of skyrocketing fees, congrats on putting LN in your platform thats huge potential.


Thank you for your kind words and I hope you will enjoy Betplay.io! Smiley We will try to be as active as possible with updates and news.



Excellent initiative op. I am a fan of LN myself even though its adoption rate is significantly low currently, but it's good to see you guys taking a risk here.

I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.

I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.

I do agree adding more items in FAQ. Though you are using LN, still it is good to know simple info like min deposit/withdrawal.
And if you are using bitcoin-on-chain, what is min depo/withdrawal? Those info sometimes are important to players especially small time players.
On the other note, when I check your aviator game, there are about 117 bets already. That's a very good start as you are just new here.
Seems that you already promoted it before you introduced it here in the forum.
But it says, there are 2 online, how come there are more than 100 bets placed?


We have been live for about 3 weeks before joining this forum. We have had friends and colleagues trying out our casino to give us feedback as well.



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Aviator: landing in Gambling, finally ... after a previous stop on another forum board  Smiley ...

-/ The Bonus & Offers is only USDT deposit...?

The other Betplay’s Welcome Bonus  30x, 30 days, 200% bonus, it is very well explained.

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Aviator: landing in Gambling, finally ... after a previous stop on another forum board  Smiley ...

-/ The Bonus & Offers is only USDT deposit...?

The other Betplay’s Welcome Bonus  30x, 30 days, 200% bonus, it is very well explained.

So, bet play./-

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We offer a 100% reload bonus on your second deposit as well! And the currencies we support for our bonuses and gameplay at the moment are USDT and uBTC, but more are coming very soon! Smiley
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i got curious if your tagline is true and if its really the first casino that supports lightning network so ive done some googling and found out  that thier are other casino s that also have a simillar network i only gathered one name so far and that is lightningspin.com  . i was searching for thier start date but i cant find any info in regards to that but that doesnt really matter in the end i think ? but what matters is that there are casinos that are promoting this lightning network and we still need more of them because they are still a few
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wow this was the first Lightning network bitcoin betting site , i have been looking for this kind of site because i have some funds in my LN and now i guess i can use them after a year.
i got curious if your tagline is true and if its really the first casino that supports lightning network so ive done some googling and found out  that thier are other casino s that also have a simillar network i only gathered one name so far and that is lightningspin.com  . i was searching for thier start date but i cant find any info in regards to that but that doesnt really matter in the end i think ? but what matters is that there are casinos that are promoting this lightning network and we still need more of them because they are still a few
so meaning what you find is not yet starting ? so the tagline is indeed correct as they are the first as they are already operating not like the one that you mentioned.

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February 24, 2021, 09:47:42 AM
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I think you need to clarify these terms a little.

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Deposit Bitcoin regular or with our first industry leading Bitcoin lightning solution and receive 200% of you deposit to your balance.  The bonus is awarded when the turnover requirements are fulfilled. You can withdraw the bonus right away when it has been awarded, no strings attached!

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·       The welcome deposit bonus offer is only available to those who have made their first deposit up to a maximum of up to 50,000 u₿.

·       To receive the maximum bonus of up to 50,000 u₿, you must wager an amount equal of 30 times the value of your first initial deposit. The player will then have 7 days to claim the bonus and after that 30 days to complete. If the player fails to do so, the bonus will be forfeited.

Max bet to be able to 100% wager your bonus is set at 1,000 u₿.


Are you saying the bonus can be awarded after the user has wagered their deposit 30x, but after this wagering the user has to manually claim it?

What is this about having 30 days to complete the bonus after it was claimed as well? At the start of the terms it says it can be withdrawn right away.

EDIT:
Went ahead and made a deposit to test this place out. The bonus terms are incorrect, its actually 30x the bonus amount which needs to be wagered rather than the initial deposit.

It seems like the bonus is applied post wager so you can't use it for extra playtime like most other sites. As i'm not particularly a fan of these post wager bonuses, i just turned over my deposit a couple of times and attempted to withdraw. It hasn't dropped back in my wallet quite yet so i'm assuming they require manual approval (to be fair it has only been an hour).

Quite like the site design though, plus it will be good to see the microgaming/netent slots when they are added (their logos show at the bottom of the site but don't seem to be searchable yet)

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I'm not sure that this is the first casino with Bitcoin Lightning Network, but it's surely quite rare to see such things. I can see you also support USDT, but do you support regular Bitcoin transactions or only the Lightning Network?
I also see from the terms that even though you don't normally ask for ID, the casino is not fully anonymous since an ID can be asked when a person wants to withdraw consent, and some info like full name, phone number or Internet connection info can be asked in some cases.

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I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.

I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair Tongue

The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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February 24, 2021, 05:20:18 PM
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*welcome new challenger gambling site...
accept the Bitcoin Lightning Network! seems very interesting. I am still very unfamiliar with the bitcoin lightning network, but what I heard is that the fee is very much cheaper than the usual Bitcoin network. will try later.



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February 24, 2021, 07:21:30 PM
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I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.

I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair Tongue

The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases

Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.
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I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.

I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair Tongue

The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases

Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.

Im presuming that you do talk about this? https://spribe.co/games/aviator

They have other games as well like Mines,Plinko,Hotline and Scratch.



Welcome to the forum Betplay!
Websites name and design are really that attractive plus using LN? This isnt something that you can see everyday.
Just be active on answering people queries and listening up with peoples suggestion and recommendation. Also, dont forget on that marketing side ofthings.

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I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.

I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair Tongue

The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases

Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.

Correct, Aviator is a provided by Spribe so we do not have direct control of it. They do offer a provably fair implementation that takes players' seeds into account. Whether you find their implementation satisfactory or not is something you need to check and decide for yourself of course.



*welcome new challenger gambling site...
accept the Bitcoin Lightning Network! seems very interesting. I am still very unfamiliar with the bitcoin lightning network, but what I heard is that the fee is very much cheaper than the usual Bitcoin network. will try later.

Thank you! Bitcoin Lightning Network will revolutionise the whole online casino industry. Transaction goes within seconds and fees cost only a fraction, then what it would cost from a normal BTC casino. We are very much looking forward to hear your feedback after trying us out! Smiley 



I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.

I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair Tongue

The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases

Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.

Im presuming that you do talk about this? https://spribe.co/games/aviator

They have other games as well like Mines,Plinko,Hotline and Scratch.



Welcome to the forum Betplay!
Websites name and design are really that attractive plus using LN? This isnt something that you can see everyday.
Just be active on answering people queries and listening up with peoples suggestion and recommendation. Also, dont forget on that marketing side ofthings.

Thank you! We worked hard on the design and saw that LN is missing in casino context. Yes, we are more than happy to listen to your suggestions and recommendation, that's why we are here Smiley I'm happy you like the brand!

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Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.

I'm not sure this is entirely relevant. You can't put a game on your website that falsely advertises itself as provably fair and then wash your hands of it.



Or even just hack the DOM to remove that, lol.


I've never heard of their game provider, https://spribe.co/, so I had a look at their website. They call "aviator" their flagship game, and pat themselves pretty hard for cloning bustabit, and changing the provably fair system to one that offers literally no guarantees at all

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We are amongst pioneers to introduce this game to regular online casinos.

and unsurprisingly are licensed by the UK Gambling Commission,  probably one (the?) of the worst gambling regulatory bodies out there. With my dealings with them, they couldn't even bother pretending they care about players interests. So while I have reported Spribe to them for false-advertising, I am almost 100% sure they couldn't care less.  


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Interestingly, the very first iteration of bustabit had a vastly improved "fairness" scheme. Which was simply when the round began, it broadcasted a hash of the (salted) game outcome. This took like ~5 lines of code, really. While it had some benefits (it proved the game was predetermined), it did not prove that it came from a fair distribution. So at the time it was called "provably predetermined" and until (I) implemented figured out how to make it come from a fair distribution it was never marketed as "provably fair". Meanwhile "aviator" offers zero guarantees, yet calls itself "provably fair" ><

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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I was happy to read your post that you wont be collecting personal data for deposits and withdrawals, but your TOS claims otherwise. If KYC wont be asked during deposits and withdrawals, can you give us examples of when and why you might use it? I am interested because you don't have a gambling license. Did I understand correctly that I have the right to refuse submitting my personal data to you? If so, what happens with my funds and my winnings?

My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.   

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I agree, their provably fair implementation is probably one of the easiest to cheat I've ever seen.

Spribe are the only ones who could do the cheating, not Betplay. Also, the game is in an iframe, Betplay can't modify the dom.


I should probably state that I am a security researcher and my job is to protect casinos from losing money. I have no professional interest in protecting players. I don't see any way Betplay could lose money by making Aviator available to its customers.
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I was happy to read your post that you wont be collecting personal data for deposits and withdrawals, but your TOS claims otherwise. If KYC wont be asked during deposits and withdrawals, can you give us examples of when and why you might use it? I am interested because you don't have a gambling license. Did I understand correctly that I have the right to refuse submitting my personal data to you? If so, what happens with my funds and my winnings?

My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.   
You do talk for possible KYC?

This doesnt rule out nor exempt other casinos as well where you can be possibly asked with some verification if they do see something towards your gambling activity.
Its quite common that those are included on most terms and conditions.
About gambling license then this hadnt been an issue because even those famous ones upto now did able to succeed or get some marketshare even
they arent really licensed at all.

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I agree, their provably fair implementation is probably one of the easiest to cheat I've ever seen.

It's so bad, that I have trouble imagining how anyone even thought it was a good idea o.0  Especially when they can just copy the dozen+ casinos who do it properly.

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Spribe are the only ones who could do the cheating, not Betplay.

Well, I don't think it really matters. Either way the player could be getting undetectably cheated.  I'm not sure players really care who is doing the cheating if they're getting cheated (not to mention players don't even know if Betplay and Spribe are actually different entities).

But besides all that, people are connecting (first) to Betplay, not Spribe. If betplay wanted to cheat, it's pretty easy: It could target a person by serving them with an page that mimics the appearance and behavior of Spribes game and abuses the broken provably fair scheme to cheat.

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Also, the game is in an iframe, Betplay can't modify the dom.

Indeed. I guess they could float something over the iframe though, lmao. Although in reality they should be vetting what they put on their website and serving to customers.


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I should probably state that I am a security researcher and my job is to protect casinos from losing money. I have no professional interest in protecting players. I don't see any way Betplay could lose money by making Aviator available to its customers.

Indeed. I agree their provably fair system does not allow players to cheat the casino, only the casino to cheat players.  Grin

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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wow this was the first Lightning network bitcoin betting site , i have been looking for this kind of site because i have some funds in my LN and now i guess i can use them after a year.

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so meaning what you find is not yet starting ? so the tagline is indeed correct as they are the first as they are already operating not like the one that you mentioned.

the one that i linked above is already up and running because i check it already but i mean is the date when this casino first operated ( ex. 2019 , 2020 .. ) but upon writing this i remember a site that is called whois so i pasted the site lightningspin.com on that i found these following values  :

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Domain Name: LIGHTNINGSPIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2276666502_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domainnameshop.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domainnameshop.com
Updated Date: 2020-05-14T12:17:19Z
Creation Date: 2018-06-18T22:55:32Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2021-06-18T22:55:32Z
Registrar: Domeneshop AS dba domainnameshop.com
Registrar IANA ID: 1001
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@domainnameshop.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +47.22943333
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: CORTNEY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LUKE.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned

as we can see on that creation date it was 2018 so this means that this lightningspin.com is really the first before betplay.io started operating on the year 2020
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It's fine if a platform claims to be "first" or "greatest". When players have made a deposit, the currency that showed will still Bitcoin or will it be converted to Fiat?

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Had a visit to the site. Quite good in all aspects, I didn't made a signup. From the overview it looks more of a trusted platform, and it has added games from different development platforms. This will help people preferring different scripts to give a try. However the gambling market is highly competent, and trust is much required to attract gamblers use the platform. Look for all the possible sources and add more trust. Lightening Network is good and adds attraction as very few platforms have started making use of it.

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Welcome to this forum
It's fine if a platform claims to be "first" or "greatest". When players have made a deposit, the currency that showed will still Bitcoin or will it be converted to Fiat?

Thank you! For the moment it only shows in micro-bitcoin (uBTC).

Please note that we are temporarily turning off USDT on Betplay.io due to Ethereum network congestion and high fees. We will reevaluate this later and we are also looking into support for other USDT networks outside of Ethereum. Being able to provide fast and low cost payments are very important to us and right now we do not feel that USDT on ETH network meets our requirements.



Had a visit to the site. Quite good in all aspects, I didn't made a signup. From the overview it looks more of a trusted platform, and it has added games from different development platforms. This will help people preferring different scripts to give a try. However the gambling market is highly competent, and trust is much required to attract gamblers use the platform. Look for all the possible sources and add more trust. Lightening Network is good and adds attraction as very few platforms have started making use of it.

Thank you for your comments.

We are currently integrating more premium providers, such as Netent, Pragmatic, Play'nGo etc, so our players have more variations of games. Any suggestion you might have, for us to gain more trust, are highly welcomed!



I was happy to read your post that you wont be collecting personal data for deposits and withdrawals, but your TOS claims otherwise. If KYC wont be asked during deposits and withdrawals, can you give us examples of when and why you might use it? I am interested because you don't have a gambling license. Did I understand correctly that I have the right to refuse submitting my personal data to you? If so, what happens with my funds and my winnings?

My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.   

Sorry for our late reply on this, so regarding KYC, the reason for why we still have that is because it is a requirement for us to have in our TOS if we want to go for the Curacao license. And as mentioned before we have had in plan to go for that license and that is why we chose to still keep it in our TOS. However, we have spoken internally and will remove that clause from our TOS until we have the license, because as you mentioned it is not necessary while we don't have a license. The "user contributions" is in our TOS because of upcoming promotions where we will show the players chosen username when they have won a big bet for example. Smiley



Hey all,

We are running two promotions now on Friday and Saturday. If you would like to participate we would love your feedback, mostly on the Myster Cash Drop! Smiley I am sure most of you have received the email about the promotion but I will post it here as well.

On Friday the 12th of March we will be running the 25% Cashback Race and on Saturday the 13th of March we will also be running our new promotion called Mystery Cash Drop!

To participate for the Mega Cash Drop promotion simply make a minimum deposit of 1000 uBTC between 12th of March at 23.59 CET and the 13th of March at 23.59 CET to have a chance to get a secret Cash Drop on your account.

The rules are if you get the Cash Drop, then the Cash is yours with no wagering requirements. You will have one hour to either withdraw the Cash or play for it! If you have not withdrawn or played with the Cash before the one hour mark the Cash will go to another lucky player!

Have a great day!





What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?

This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.

Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it Smiley

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What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?

This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.

Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it Smiley

Signature campaigns are straightforward. See how most of us have it just below our post? You design one for those, sign people up to wear those (plus Avatars and profile messages) and then you automatically have your banner displayed below EVERY post the wearer ever made:)

Very effective IF you get high quality posters active in the right sub-forums:)

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I like the design and the layout from the website. It looks decent and attractive. There are also many games to be offered.
The only minus is that there is a license from Costa Rica. It is not an official gambling license, as many people already discussed on the site. On the other hand, there are many other sites from Costa Rica with a reputable name. So the website will be as good as the reputation will be. Let us just wait from some players how they experience this site. I might try it by myself later on.

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Since you have disabled support for USDT over the Ethereum network, may I suggest you consider introducing USDT over the Tron network. We currently find ourselves in a bull market and to save on transaction fees, using the Tron network seems like a convenient alternative. It would also also fit quite well with your ambition of having a casino where players don't have to lose a great deal of money on network fees. 

At the bottom of the website, you have those three buttons for the Windows, iOS, and Android apps. The problem is, only the Windows logo is clickable. The reason could be that the mobile apps have not been released yet, but just in case they have, I wanted to make you aware that the buttons don't work.   

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We will definitely look into it! Thanks for suggestion. Smiley






We are happy to announce support for bitcoin deposits & withdrawals using Liquid Network at Betplay.io. Given the increasing fees and mempool in the main chain we want to offer our users faster & cheaper payment options and seeing how well Bitcoin Lightning is working we think this can be a great complement to that for users who prefer using Liquid instead.

Payments take about 1 minute and fees are quite low. For example, a transfer of 20 uBTC incurred a total fee of 0.2 uBTC which we think is quite good considering the onchain fees right now.  Grin

Lightning payments are still available of course!

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Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it Smiley
To have a general idea of what a signature campaign look like go check the service section
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

It's surprising that you have no idea what a signature campaign is all about, you are running a gambling site and you need to market it and signature marketing is part of it, you have to explore it if you have the funds, it's worth it some signature campaigns are already running for over a year now, this is a big proof that it really works.

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We are happy to announce support for bitcoin deposits & withdrawals using Liquid Network at Betplay.io. Given the increasing fees and mempool in the main chain we want to offer our users faster & cheaper payment options and seeing how well Bitcoin Lightning is working we think this can be a great complement to that for users who prefer using Liquid instead.
you have a good improvement when create deposits using Liquid network, some people didn't how it works cause this little bit different from the lightning network. better to you create on FAQ also in the website.

you use (uBTC) or called you-bit btc. I also suggest you add currency setting (uBTC) to another unit such as satoshi to avoid confusion by beginer.


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We have just gone live with our brand new Crypto currency casino, Betplay.io!

We are the industry first to announce ⚡️Bitcoin Lightning Payment⚡️, this means that you can now both deposit and withdraw your money in seconds!


Welcome to Bitcointalk.org Forum Guys and I was just checked the site now and this amazed me because My kind is just starting to Learn Lightning Network and while you are accepting this then I'll be trying my chance to learn this.

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What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?

This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.

Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it Smiley

Signature  campaign will only be effective when you have sufficient budget to hire top tier quality poster here since competition is very tough here in the forum for crypto casino industry. Having a good promotion such as free rolland exclusive tournament is much effective to attract real user if you have tight budget. There's a lot of players here that didn't wear signature code from campaign.


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What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?

This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.

Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it Smiley

Signature  campaign will only be effective when you have sufficient budget to hire top tier quality poster here since competition is very tough here in the forum for crypto casino industry. Having a good promotion such as free rolland exclusive tournament is much effective to attract real user if you have tight budget. There's a lot of players here that didn't wear signature code from campaign.


They can think of contests also among players, that can trigger their interest and stay long on their site.
Because with sig campaign and if you have tight budget, there is no assurance that you will achieve your goals.
Also, are you going to add other coins other than bitcoin?
I know, people are complaining about high fees of btc and now that there is casino using LN, it seems not so much are interested.
Maybe one reason, is not many people are acquainted or comfortable using LN.
So one suggestion is if you can add other alts with cheaper fees like TRX/LTC, if that is possible from your end.

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What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?

This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.

Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it Smiley

Signature  campaign will only be effective when you have sufficient budget to hire top tier quality poster here since competition is very tough here in the forum for crypto casino industry. Having a good promotion such as free rolland exclusive tournament is much effective to attract real user if you have tight budget. There's a lot of players here that didn't wear signature code from campaign.



You are right, a signature campaign is excellent, especially if the payouts are high, tournaments are also much more attractive, but that is already a matter of how they evaluate it in the team, within the forum when tournaments are organized they are very popular, As Betnomi is currently doing through a great campaign manager, the participation is incredible, Betplay.io has all the possibilities on the table, it is a casino that has great growth every time, whatever they put I´m sure they will succeed.

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We are happy to announce support for bitcoin deposits & withdrawals using Liquid Network at Betplay.io. Given the increasing fees and mempool in the main chain we want to offer our users faster & cheaper payment options and seeing how well Bitcoin Lightning is working we think this can be a great complement to that for users who prefer using Liquid instead.
you have a good improvement when create deposits using Liquid network, some people didn't how it works cause this little bit different from the lightning network. better to you create on FAQ also in the website.

you use (uBTC) or called you-bit btc. I also suggest you add currency setting (uBTC) to another unit such as satoshi to avoid confusion by beginer.



Great advise, thank you!



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We have just gone live with our brand new Crypto currency casino, Betplay.io!

We are the industry first to announce ⚡️Bitcoin Lightning Payment⚡️, this means that you can now both deposit and withdraw your money in seconds!


Welcome to Bitcointalk.org Forum Guys and I was just checked the site now and this amazed me because My kind is just starting to Learn Lightning Network and while you are accepting this then I'll be trying my chance to learn this.


Great stuff! It's very easy to learn, and once you have, it will make your gaming session a lot quicker, smoother and cheaper!

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Tested out the site and it's really fast and had a good slot selection. LN was instant on both deposit and withdrawal.
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Welcome to bitcointalk forum. I'll check it out.

finally, I have something to do with my bitcoin lightning network. I will test your platform.
however, I think it would be better if you could move this thread to the gambling section.
That's good for the casino owner since you will test their site voluntarily compared to paid to test their casino and also good for other people who might get interested trying out the site and they'll know about your review. We all have different likes about a casino so opinions will differ.

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We are the industry first to announce ⚡️Bitcoin Lightning Payment⚡️
This isn't true. See Lightning Network Stores for a long list of online casinos that accepted Bitcoin LN before your site existed.
Yours is the first site I've seen that offers Liquid deposits though, but since I've never used it, I can't test it.

Other thoughts/suggestions:
  • I like that the site just works in a Tor browser, without captcha. However, in said Tor browser, the BTC-symbol doesn't show:
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    ~ up to 50,000 u₿. Withdrawals ~
  • In the same browser, the deposit QR-code doesn't work. I've seen the same problem on another site, but I also know a site where it works. It would be great if you can fix this (I only have LN-wallets on mobile, so I had to create a QR-code by myself now)
  • Amounts are shown as uBTC and UBTC. The correct name would be μBTC, but "bits" is much more common.
  • The email-confirmation for a near-instant LN-deposit is excessive.
  • You're asking for "your wallet address", which doesn't really exist in Bitcoin LN. The wording can be improved.
  • When withdrawing, a "max"-button would be nice.

I deposited 5 bits, played one round of roulette, won, and wanted to withdraw. I see this:
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Create a new invoice with open amount. Do not reuse an invoice. Do not specify amount in the invoice.
I'm used to specifying an amount in my payment request, but this seems to work from Phoenix Wallet too.
After withdrawing 7.5 bits, nothing arrived in my wallet, even though the site says it was successful.
I used this LN payment request:
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lnbc1psf965qpp56mhjcm6j5ehmkjtxldzzxx5ju24uh5jdgkmmj6w6cy86mw4mpgxsdqqxqyjw5q9qtzqqqqqq9qsqsp5gaq5adsnd75638zg2hpgggqjlrc9q6y0aq4xxa0l5ksmyeuhushsrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glcllekzpdf7ckd6cqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqvg8ka9twds20d5j5r4qr09kqtvuxpjhw4a57gp9qqgtgkm6p8zj4y5tuaydc6mdsj4qhpardl7my57gcdat6rwtl49n3rc7eufs5s8gpt7z7je
I've never before experienced a "successful" LN-payment that didn't arrive. Can you check this on your end?

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Hi LoyceV
Thank your for testing our the site and giving some really good feedback!

In regards to being first, most sites offering gambling that had lightning only offered one or two games. We don't really consider this to be a casino where you have slots, table games, live casino games, virtual racing etc. I guess you could argue that definition but that's way we see it.

The thought & suggestions are really good; email, wording and max button will be addressed shortly. It would be nice to fully support TOR, we don't have too much experience with it but it might be something we can look at in the near future.

Micro should really be μ as you say, in the games though we can't really control it as it comes from game providers. But on the site we can, so we will change it  Smiley

Regarding the LN withdraw, we got an error from our node that it was unable to route the payment ("Unable to find a path to destination"). We have seen this happen a handful of times and it is always when using Phoenix Wallet for withdrawals. I am not sure exactly why, I know the dev team have been in contact with the developers on Phoenix to try and sort it out but so far it still seems to happen. Your withdraw was eventually resolved and money was returned. The routing issue happens after a payment has been approved, which is why you got an approved message but actual funds failed to route. This happens very rarely, but we will look into to trying to make sure the routing was successful before notifying the player in the future.

We never had a routing issue with Wallet of Satoshi or Blue Wallet for instance, so I don't really want to recommed to switch wallet - but they seem to work better for some reason, maybe Phoenix wallet being non-custodial makes routing in to the wallet more complicated   Undecided


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Please add sports betting option. And You will be the first sportsbook with lighting payments.
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We are looking at options for sports betting  Wink Wink
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Regarding the LN withdraw, we got an error from our node that it was unable to route the payment ("Unable to find a path to destination"). We have seen this happen a handful of times and it is always when using Phoenix Wallet for withdrawals. I am not sure exactly why, I know the dev team have been in contact with the developers on Phoenix to try and sort it out but so far it still seems to happen. Your withdraw was eventually resolved and money was returned. The routing issue happens after a payment has been approved, which is why you got an approved message but actual funds failed to route. This happens very rarely, but we will look into to trying to make sure the routing was successful before notifying the player in the future.
I've used Wallet of Satoshi and BlueWallet too, they all have their pros and cons. Phoenix Wallet needs to be online to receive the payment, and I tried to make it go online several times last night. I think the LN-transaction just has to keep trying for a while.

As for the "unable to find a path" error: I've seen that before when sending a transaction. It would be great if your website can show that message instead of "success", so the user can just try something else.

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We never had a routing issue with Wallet of Satoshi or Blue Wallet for instance, so I don't really want to recommed to switch wallet - but they seem to work better for some reason, maybe Phoenix wallet being non-custodial makes routing in to the wallet more complicated   Undecided
Custodial wallets use a well-connected node that's online all the time, while Phoenix Wallet needs to actually be online to receive a transaction. And Android probably tries to make it sleep whenever it's on the background. LN is easier to send than receive a transaction as a user.
I tried to use BlueWallet, but I don't think it allows to request a payment without an amount, and your site specifically asks for a payment request without amount specified. Is that really needed, or would a pre-set amount work too? I like how Lightning-Roulette.com does it: I set the amount in my payment request instead of on the site, and they send whatever I requested.

I now used tippin.me to withdraw. That worked.

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I don't really have any further details on the Phoenix issue that happens, but I know that the payment team have been talking directly with the Phoenix guys to try and sort it out.

If you enter the same amount in the invoice as in the withdraw then it will work as well. But if they mismatch then the payment will be failed and refunded to your player account.

Will take a look again at Blue Wallet, if not possible to not enter amount then maybe we need to amend the instructions to leave amount open or enter the same amount.
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Are you planning to add "mining" for players to get dividends at some point? I would be interested. Also it seems to be a great marketing trick considering how well others have done with that. Also do you have any public roadmap or community telegram channel?
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Hi Cryptoperkele (Finnish I presume?  Grin)
There is no official roadmap right now, but we are currently working on a VIP level & bonus program that we hope to roll out in a couple of weeks Cool

I'm afraid we don't have any mining and it's not on the roadmap right now anyway.
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Regarding the LN withdraw, we got an error from our node that it was unable to route the payment ("Unable to find a path to destination"). We have seen this happen a handful of times and it is always when using Phoenix Wallet for withdrawals. I am not sure exactly why,
You have always opened the channel and open the peer, this means 24/7 should be online.



Hi @Betplay Group, I also find buy crypto option on your deposit page, and the user can buy another altcoin such as ethereum, usdt, ripple and etc. where you send the coin after bought it?, cause I didn't find another altcoin wallet such as btc, doge and ltc in the user wallet.

Is there no minimum deposit for the Lightning network? cause I can't find 5 bits in the option deposit.


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Hi @Betplay Group, I also find buy crypto option on your deposit page, and the user can buy another altcoin such as ethereum, usdt, ripple and etc. where you send the coin after bought it?, cause I didn't find another altcoin wallet such as btc, doge and ltc in the user wallet.

Is there no minimum deposit for the Lightning network? cause I can't find 5 bits in the option deposit.


Hi DroomieChikito,
When you buy crypto there will a page with an address input. The address input will be prefilled with your address at Betplay.io, but you can manually change it to another address if you prefer.


5 bits is the minimum for LN deposits. The option buttons will adapt to your previous deposit amounts, but you can always enter a custom amount manually in the amount input field. Looking at this right I see that the min/max help text has disappeared when entering an amount outside of the range so we need to fix that obviously.

 
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Hi @Betplay Group, I also find buy crypto option on your deposit page, and the user can buy another altcoin such as ethereum, usdt, ripple and etc. where you send the coin after bought it?, cause I didn't find another altcoin wallet such as btc, doge and ltc in the user wallet.

Is there no minimum deposit for the Lightning network? cause I can't find 5 bits in the option deposit.


Hi DroomieChikito,
When you buy crypto there will a page with an address input. The address input will be prefilled with your address at Betplay.io, but you can manually change it to another address if you prefer.

5 bits is the minimum for LN deposits. The option buttons will adapt to your previous deposit amounts, but you can always enter a custom amount manually in the amount input field. Looking at this right I see that the min/max help text has disappeared when entering an amount outside of the range so we need to fix that obviously.
 

any contests or promotional activities coming up on your platform aside from the VIP & bonus programs on the works? simple contest programs may attract some interest to play on your site. i believe not many gamblers are familiar dealing with LN the reason why it is hard to get players. though you have other alts now.

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5 bits is the minimum for LN deposits.
i believe not many gamblers are familiar dealing with LN the reason why it is hard to get players. though you have other alts now.
I know in the past when LN just appeared, we can easily take earned 1-5 sat by doing a task or airdropping. but I don't really sure it's still working such as https://microlancer.io/ . by doing the task we can earn some satoshi and playing with Betplay. Maybe doing some task, Betplay should be listing it there or just create a games and around here to test the website using LN. it will get many players to just testing and joining your site, this for my suggestion also.

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Hi AmoreJaz and DroomieChikito,
Thank you for the suggestion! Actually we are seeing a lot of players using Lightning Network, in fact we are now getting more deposits via LN than regular on-chain BTC deposits. This also applies to unique users so we are not just seeing a lot of LN deposits for a few users.

We were taken a bit by surprise by the rapid adoption and increase of LN payments actually. When we launched we figured we were still a bit early to the party, but right now it seems we were just in time. No doubt LN adoption has been accelerated by the extremely high fees we saw a couple of weeks back so that turned out to be a bit of a crisitunity for us  Wink

Liquid Bitcoin on the other hand is still a sleeper it seems  Grin



Betplay.io goes live with ETH  Cool

Hi guys, a little update from Betplay.io, we are now live with ETH, meaning we support BTC, ETH, LTC and Dogecoin as payment option. You can of course buy BTC thru Moonpay or Wyre using a credit/debit card as well  Wink

We're constantly improving our casino, and appreciate any feedback you might have!



Hi again all!

We have now also added "tipping your friends" feature!  Smiley

Best regards,

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Welcome to bitcointalk and a great job there having a bitcoin lightning network in your system to ease the transactions process and speed.
What is the welcome bonus on your site do we have it in form of the deposit bonus or free spins, what are the deposits and withdrawal conditions?

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Hi RILWAN,

Thank you! Smiley You can read about our promotions and Welcome bonus here: https://betplay.io/en/info/promotions. We are continuously updating the site with new features.

 



Hi all,

We are running a 15% extra Cashback today/Sunday. We sent out an email to all yesterday with more information! Smiley

Good luck!




Hi all,

Just an update from us that we have now improved the Weekly Cashback to 10% from first VIP level!  Smiley

Have a great day!

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Hi all,

Just an update from us that we have now improved the Weekly Cashback to 10% from first VIP level!  Smiley

Have a great day!
That's a really big amount for cashback, what does it take to get to the VIP level though? Because I am sure it's going to have requirements to become one right? Hopefully it's not a hard one.

VIP level always related to "wager" activity, so I believe the one in this site is the same as most other VIP level in other casinos.
The more you wager, the higher VIP level you'll reach, the more benefits you'll get.
There is no specific amount on how much to wager to get the first VIP level, there is only progressing bar but no specific amount information.
Perhaps it would be better if betplay give more details about the VIP level especially related to the wager requirement to reach each level.

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@Betplay Group, please be aware that there is a forum policy that prohibits bumping one's own thread more than once within a 24-hour period, and doing so is against the rules.

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Hey,

Oh sorry about that! Will keep that in mind.  Smiley

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@Betplay Group, please be aware that there is a forum policy that prohibits bumping one's own thread more than once within a 24-hour period, and doing so is against the rules.

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These are correct recommendations, proven by many years of experience, you should not argue with them.  Moreover, you yourself understand that everything is written correctly.
However, how else will BTT users find out about the new casino offer if the message does not appear at the top of the "gambling" section?  
If you just add to the last post, for example, through the line "[hr ]", then no one will see the announcement.  

In this case, I suppose OP is doing the right thing by writing separate posts.  And moderators should not pay attention to such a comprehension.  
It is justified by the interests of BTT users... Smiley

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@delfastTions, you don't seem to understand my comment. In my post, I did not discuss how the casino is supposed to announce new casino offers, just that thread bumping should be limited to once per 24 hours, and that multiple replies should be combined into one post, as defined in the forum rules.

@Betplay Group accepted my advice and corrected the mistake, so everything is fine now.

Yeah!  Sorry,  Smiley
I really misunderstood your message, which is then all the more taken into account by the OP.  Since this has already been implemented and agreed upon by devs, it is also correct that news will appear here once a day. 
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It is good that you are now conducting events and competitions but best to ALso put this in Games and Rounds section like what said above

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0

Here's the section that you may Visit everytime you will produce gambling events here and best to make a post at least week in advance .


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I havent checked about this freeroll on your website, but is it one winner only take the whole pot? Is there any specific requirement in order to join or is it available to all players without restriction?
Couldn't find much regarding this event on their website too.
I found this:
https://betplay.io/fr/news/sunday-poker-freeroll
Almost the same message they posted here with no more details. But it looks like there is no specific requirements to participate except having made at least one deposit.
BTW, I tried to create an account but didn't receive the confirmation code. I only received a welcome email!

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Hello! Good day! This is regarding your comment about Betplay.io Poker Free Roll. You are correct, to join the Betplay.io Invitational freeroll you just need to have made at least one deposit. Thank you for creating an account with us as well, may we check if you are still having any concern with your newly created account? please click this link https://betplay.io/fr/poker
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Friendly advice, if u want to attract more players / customers , u need to upgrade your site design, looks very cheap IMO right now
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Hello! Thanks for the feedback we appreciate it and rest assured our team is continuously doing the best effort in updating and creating our promos as well as the website to give the best gaming experience.

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have you posted this also in the games & rounds section? the more people know about this promo, the better. because as i noticed, even if you are using lightning network here seems that people still prefer the regular btc network.
anyway, it will take time before players will appreciate this kind of service. not many users are knowledgeable with lightning network up until now.

Hello! Good day! This is regarding your comment about Betplay.io Poker Free Roll. Thank you for your suggestion. Yes, we will post this event as well in the games & rounds section. You are correct with lightning, but we are also happy that many players are using lightning wallet now. You may also click this link https://betplay.io/en/poker. Keep safe!

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It is good that you are now conducting events and competitions but best to ALso put this in Games and Rounds section like what said above

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0

Here's the section that you may Visit everytime you will produce gambling events here and best to make a post at least week in advance .



Hello! Good day! Thank you for your suggestion. Yes, we will post this event as well in the games & rounds section. You may also click this link https://betplay.io/en/poker. Keep safe!

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Hi Guys!

Log in to your Betplay.io account right now and play your cards right because you could be the lucky poker winner and walk away with 15,000 uBTC in the pot!

I havent checked about this freeroll on your website, but is it one winner only take the whole pot? Is there any specific requirement in order to join or is it available to all players without restriction? It will be nice if you can give more details about this freeroll and as suggested by other previous members, you can create a new thread in the G&R section because there is the place where many members are looking for promotions.


Hello! Good day! Kindly be advised that it’s not winner takes it all, it's distributed depending on the number of players. To join the Betplay Invitational freeroll you need to have made at least one deposit before opening the poker client. You may click this link https://betplay.io/en/poker. Keep safe!

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November 26, 2021, 09:33:13 PM
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Hello! Good day! This is regarding your comment about Betplay.io Poker Free Roll. You are correct, to join the Betplay.io Invitational freeroll you just need to have made at least one deposit. Thank you for creating an account with us as well, may we check if you are still having any concern with your newly created account?
Thank you for the fast reply and the clarification about the freeroll requirements.
Regarding the issue with the verification code, I received it and all I had to do was to reload the website and try to log in. It appears that every time you do this a new code will be sent to the email address used to register.

Note : please avoid writing multiple posts in a row as it's against the forum rules.

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The house edge on the provably fair games leaves a lot to be desired.

For instance, I think that you are actually charging a 3% house edge on dice? That is approximately 3x what the industry standard is given that most places have a house edge of 1% or less.

Definitely take this into consideration as a lot of people care about RTP these days.

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By the way, we want to inform everyone here that Betplay.io now supports Tron & Monero cryptocurrencies. We have all the top-tier game providers, come and join us!

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Good to know that you are still active on this forum. Maybe you should improve now your ANN thread so that all the games you provide, feature and all updates can be easily see by potential investors that will view your thread. It's already a year since your ANN thread and still no update happened on it on that timespan. Maybe hire your bitcointalk representative so that he can handle all things related in the forum.

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Hello Beparanf,

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January 24, 2022, 10:48:16 AM
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this year, what are we gonna see differently from betplay? i have seen you will be having sunday freeroll. but as a casino promoting btc lightning network, what do you think will be your activities that may possibly attract crypto users to finally utilise btc LN? as ive noticed, a lot of crypto users here are not very familiar or comfortable using LN. most still prefer to use the native network of btc.
what do you think will be a good promotion for LN-based casino?

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January 24, 2022, 04:46:07 PM
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Hello Timerland,

Thank you for your suggestion, our team will take this into consideration. Keep safe!


By the way, we want to inform everyone here that Betplay.io now supports Tron & Monero cryptocurrencies. We have all the top-tier game providers, come and join us!

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if you don't bump this topic then I don't know this site ever existed lol. I am a new registrant and am interested in this because it adopts the Lighting Network, very few gambling sites adopt it and I can say this site is a pioneer in adopting the lighting network.

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January 25, 2022, 12:45:28 AM
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Hi AmoreJaz,

Thanks for replying! Our campaign and marketing team is definitely creating something for our players' better gaming experience. Keep safe!


Hello Sirait,

Thank you! Aside from the 100% Welcome Bonus, we also offer 10% Weekly Cashback and Daily Rakeback.

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January 25, 2022, 01:51:25 AM
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This site looks fantastic! And love the LN integration as well, this is truly at the forefront of technological adoption.

As others have suggested I think that it would be a good idea to redesign the ANN thread a bit so that it's a bit more appealing to players that are looking to get involved.

Also, as to the welcome bonuses, exactly what is entailed and where can I find out more about the Terms and Conditions? What wagering requirements are there?
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January 25, 2022, 01:58:28 AM
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Hello magneto,

Good day! Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestion. Regarding our 100% Welcome Bonus, the bonus is awarded after player wagered their first deposit 35 times. For more details please click this link https://betplay.io/en/info/promotions.   

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February 16, 2022, 04:47:30 PM
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Hello magneto,

Good day! Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestion. Regarding our 100% Welcome Bonus, the bonus is awarded after player wagered their first deposit 35 times. For more details please click this link https://betplay.io/en/info/promotions.   

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Excuse my ignorance, in order for me to get the 100% bonus, is a wagering 35x ? What I like most about the platform is that they use LN, but have you thought about adding more currencies? I say this because in these moments of the market that is a bit bearish, many want to bet their altcoins, it is a way to multiply them, since many are desperate to see that their investment in altcoins is getting smaller and smaller, so I think it would be very good opportunity to implement it.

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February 17, 2022, 01:41:57 AM
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Dear LUCKMCFLY,

Good day!

Thank you for your message. For the 100% Welcome Bonus, the player must wager the first deposit 35 times to get the bonus, you may also click this link: https://betplay.io/en/info/promotions to see more about our promotions. Thank you as well for your suggestion, it is highly appreciated. Rest assured that our team is making sure to add more promotions and expand our online casino including adding more cryptocurrencies so our players will have the best gaming experience.

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February 23, 2022, 11:59:15 PM
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Dear SweetL0u,

We are sorry for the frustrations. This has been raised for investigation, we have sent you an email as well regarding the concern.

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February 24, 2022, 12:30:32 AM
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AVOID THIS CASINO

I recommend you don't deposit your money on betplay.io

My funds were stolen while I was playing. Here are the transaction

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February 20, 2022 4:28 PMID 26448952
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I contact support and had to ask myself for the list of IP addresses that connected to my account. In the same hour, 6 other IP connected to my account, I search the IP adresses and it was from 6 different countries.

Maybe the casino should take responsibility to protect their users? I have an account on Stakes, with no 2FA and we have all of the IP log and none of those IPs are showing I even ask their support.
I was playing at both sites at the same time. I also check the IP connection from other casinos that were open like stakes and getslots. (Which had funds in it) and only 1 IP shows up which is mine.

The fact that I was playing 3 minutes earlier and the withdrawal was made is even worse because that means multiple people from different countries can connect to one account at the same time.

Are you using VPN or something that can change your IP address. If you’re not using VPN then the report says your account has been accessed by six user in different country then the site is probably leaking your information to hackers. Please keep us updated their case as soon as it was resolved by betplay. In case they denied your case, just create your own scam accusation thread on the Reputation thread.

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February 24, 2022, 12:40:48 AM
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i got curious if your tagline is true and if its really the first casino that supports lightning network so ive done some googling and found out  that thier are other casino s that also have a simillar network i only gathered one name so far and that is lightningspin.com  . i was searching for thier start date but i cant find any info in regards to that but that doesnt really matter in the end i think ? but what matters is that there are casinos that are promoting this lightning network and we still need more of them because they are still a few

Another one is Thunderpick found it while using Google also there are really few casinos that use the lightning network, I'm sure many more will come out if the feedbacks are all good, just found this article while looking although not a popular review site but at least your casino is included in their list, the list is very short but who knows two or three years from now we'll have more..

Bitcoin casinos that accept Lightning Network payments

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