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My goal is not to make a fuss and cause a huge problem just to get banned there. -snip Well if you are not trying to make a scene then perhaps the only way is to ask them nicely again and probably ask them to return your funds with the promise of leaving the site forever? Pretty sure they would let you do that and its much better than having them seize your account. Probably they dont really allow sportsbettor to bet like and somehow make money from the rakeback though
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It is a great chance for Rollbit to have more gambling on their platform and to get new customers from PEPE users. I believe that PEPE holders are actually degens who are better than degens to bet seriously? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If they want to bet on meme coins, they will not have issue to bet on gambling sites and more possibly to bet on trusted sites like Rollbit. With the big trading volume on exchanges, PEPE token looks to be another SHIBA INU meme coin in future. It must have more token holders to have more decentralization and also have bigger communities which are very attractive target customers for Rollbit. These things that the casino does is because they know how to listen to their players and that is something very good , it will always be excellent that things like these have a good happy Ending and give a better service, I have observed this casino and they have many things that make me happy. gsutan, they have nft, and they have a great Community, the questions here are guaranteed and the best thing is that the casino has a very good reputation, it has a great Acceptance by the people in the forum and the best of all is that I don't see any Problem or any Accusation of this , which makes this casino one of the best and most Trusted.
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May 10, 2023, 08:31:41 PM Last edit: May 11, 2023, 12:50:38 AM by yahoo62278 |
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My goal is not to make a fuss and cause a huge problem just to get banned there. -snip Well if you are not trying to make a scene then perhaps the only way is to ask them nicely again and probably ask them to return your funds with the promise of leaving the site forever? Pretty sure they would let you do that and its much better than having them seize your account. Probably they dont really allow sportsbettor to bet like and somehow make money from the rakeback though He should be making a scene though. IDK if you have seen the ACCUSATION or not, but I'm not sure what they say he abused? He collected rakeback for making legitimate bets that the site accepted. Odds shouldn't matter. They don't want players to make those bets and be able to collect rakeback as well, then don't offer the bets. He didn't win all his bets either, and their excuse for confiscating his account it he is in profit.He is or isn't in profit is irrelevant IMO. If there is some other sort of abuse that I am missing please feel free to enlighten me. If I am wrong I have no problem apologizing!!! From what I see, my account of the situation seems correct.
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May 10, 2023, 11:55:06 PM |
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He should be making a scene though. IDK if you have seen the ACCUSATION or not, but I'm not sure what they say he abused? He collected rakeback for making legitimate bets that the site accepted. Odds shouldn't matter. They don't want players to make those bets and be able to collect rakeback as well, then don't offer the bets. He didn't win all his bets either, and their excuse for confiscating his account it he is in profit.I have read that and so far I think he is not doing anything weird either especially when the site itself offer live betting but Rollbit has yet made any statement regarding this which is why I suggested him the discord community channel if he wants to make a scene that will be seen by larger amount Rollbit's community but he stated he doesnt want to Totally waiting on what's Rollbit has to say on this one as well because Rollbit has kept quiet regarding this and so far we have only heard from one side of explanation regarding this matter
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He should be making a scene though. IDK if you have seen the ACCUSATION or not, but I'm not sure what they say he abused? He collected rakeback for making legitimate bets that the site accepted. Odds shouldn't matter. They don't want players to make those bets and be able to collect rakeback as well, then don't offer the bets. He didn't win all his bets either, and their excuse for confiscating his account it he is in profit.I have read that and so far I think he is not doing anything weird either especially when the site itself offer live betting but Rollbit has yet made any statement regarding this which is why I suggested him the discord community channel if he wants to make a scene that will be seen by larger amount Rollbit's community but he stated he doesnt want to Totally waiting on what's Rollbit has to say on this one as well because Rollbit has kept quiet regarding this and so far we have only heard from one side of explanation regarding this matter Here are the responses to the issue made by rollbit's representative Razor Hey there, Firstly, thanks to holydarkness for letting us know about this thread! This one is a pretty standard Sportsbook abuse case that was flagged to us by our Sportsbook provider. Specifically, they were prolifically abusing bonus features that we offer alongside our Sportsbook offering. As OP has more or less included, they were told the same via our on-site support. This was not at the expense of the player as they finished in profit on Rollbit. Thanks, Razer Hey there, Had some DMs about not replying to this thread. Please find our response earlier in the thread here. This was a case of clear-cut Sportsbook abuse, identified by our provider Betby. We explained the same to OP via our on-site support. To reiterate for anyone new here, the player is in profit. Thanks, Razer I want to know what they consider abuse? I also want to know if they plan on changing their bonus system as it is clearly flawed if they allow users to place bets that they consider abuse.
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May 11, 2023, 12:20:33 AM Last edit: May 11, 2023, 12:52:37 AM by Hhampuz |
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I want to know what they consider abuse? I also want to know if they plan on changing their bonus system as it is clearly flawed if they allow users to place bets that they consider abuse.
Here's a crazy idea, what if players don't deliberately abuse a site, steal money from said abuse, and then come and cry here and win over people like you who'll throw out a red trust right away? Crazy, huh. It's extremely tiresome that people around here claim to want honesty, fairness, trust and so on but whenever a shady claim comes up it's always the usual suspects spamming the thread with massive outcry when in like 90% of cases it turns out that the user was in the wrong (obviously there are exceptions with some scam casinos/sportsbooks). I have seen you yahoo, and many other trusted members of this forum go all CIA style in their questioning and hostility towards any service provider that dares spend time on this forum and then when it turns out they were right there's never any apologies, there's never any tries of making things right it's just "Oh well, on to the next one I guess, at least we could have saved this guy if he indeed had been scammed". Why are half of my clients asking me to deal with any sort of relations on this forum because they just get bombarded unlike anywhere else with threats, bad comments and spam when they show their face here? Keep it up and eventually we'll only have the actual scammers be here and interact with the community while also lining their pockets with advertisement money. "How does it matter that the player was in profit or not" - pfft. Give me a break, yahoo. No service provider, regardless of what field they operate in, have to give you and everyone else here an explanation every time they catch someone for abuse. A detailed explanation can be given to a mediator which is the reason there are mediators out there. Just let them handle it and stop being so horny for attention or approval.EDIT; Yeah this post was a bit of a misfire with putting yahoo on blast, sometimes I get pissed off and just shoot the messenger, whoever is closest, so I'll apologize to you yahoo and would like to like to let everyone know that abusers are real, abusive casinos are real too. I don't think that Rollbit is one of them and I can't remember a single case where it actually turned out they were in the wrong for banning a user. I would urge anyone with a scam accusation to reach out to a mediator and get things sorted out there - if you actually think you've been wronged and aren't just making things up for the crowd here.
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May 11, 2023, 12:28:26 AM Last edit: May 11, 2023, 12:49:23 AM by yahoo62278 |
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I want to know what they consider abuse? I also want to know if they plan on changing their bonus system as it is clearly flawed if they allow users to place bets that they consider abuse.
Here's a crazy idea, what if players don't deliberately abuse a site, steal money from said abuse, and then come and cry here and win over people like you who'll throw out a red trust right away? Crazy, huh. It's extremely tiresome that people around here claim to want honesty, fairness, trust and so on but whenever a shady claim comes up it's always the usual suspects spamming the thread with massive outcry when in like 90% of cases it turns out that the user was in the wrong (obviously there are exceptions with some scam casinos/sportsbooks). I have seen you yahoo, and many other trusted members of this forum go all CIA style in their questioning and hostility towards any service provider that dares spend time on this forum and then when it turns out they were right there's never any apologies, there's never any tries of making things right it's just "Oh well, on to the next one I guess, at least we could have saved this guy if he indeed had been scammed". Why are half of my clients asking me to deal with any sort of relations on this forum because they just get bombarded unlike anywhere else with threats, bad comments and spam when they show their face here? Keep it up and eventually we'll only have the actual scammers be here and interact with the community while also lining their pockets with advertisement money. "How does it matter that the player was in profit or not" - pfft. Give me a break, yahoo. No service provider, regardless of what field they operate in, have to give you and everyone else here an explanation every time they catch someone for abuse. A detailed explanation can be given to a mediator which is the reason there are mediators out there. Just let them handle it and stop being so horny for attention or approval. I know you have to protect your clients but I do not see it as abuse if they make a bet with 1.003 odds. Take a look at the accusation and you'll see the person in question made lots of bets from 1.001 odds to 1.81 odds. Not all were winners as well. So, how is that abuse? I can agree that most of the people we see in the scam accusations section are dumbasses trying to apply pressure to a site to hopefully get paid. This particular case I disagree with. After a few minutes to cool off, myself and Hhampuz had a chat and decided we let our emotions get to us. I apologize to the community and Hhampuz for the outburst.
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First off, I'm glad it is getting more attention now, regardless if you think I'm just a 'regular abuser' and part of the 90% scamming. If you read through the thread I have been quite calm, collected and asking normal questions while supplying plentiful evidence from my side.
I know people in this forum have to sift through the bad eggs and there are plenty of them. Even if my case goes nowhere I do want to help people in this community moving forward for various issues and crypto related problems and become an active member. I was never aware of the community here previously.
Most people here have not been in the position I am in now, and it is not enjoyable to say the least. Woke up one morning, account disabled right after I lose a 1k bet on 1.008 odds.
I think it is quite an unusual case here and Rollbit's lack of explanation on the bonus feature abuse is concerning for me and others. Polite emails to support are ignored, same responses in the scam thread. Twice now they keep telling everyone I am in profit so that seems to make it ok I guess?
Hhampuz - I would love to have mediation for this, but there seems to be no ADR platform for Sportsbook cases AND one Rollbit is on. If you have any leads on that I'm all ears and would take everything off bitcointalk to the mediation so people here don't have to deal with it.
arallmuus - Discord is just confusing and complicated for me... I still can't figure out the servers and where to even talk or write. Would need a step by step walkthrough lol I appreciate the help with this though, thanks.
PS: still learning the quote thing here so I wasn't sure how to respond accordingly to each person, sorry!
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May 11, 2023, 05:37:02 AM |
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My goal is not to make a fuss and cause a huge problem just to get banned there. -snip Well if you are not trying to make a scene then perhaps the only way is to ask them nicely again and probably ask them to return your funds with the promise of leaving the site forever? Pretty sure they would let you do that and its much better than having them seize your account. Probably they dont really allow sportsbettor to bet like and somehow make money from the rakeback though If there is any abuse the casino won't allow you to get your funds back as they have stated earlier also even if you ask them because the player is at wrong side and they have taken action against him by seizing the funds.But yes if the casino finds it suitable they can close the matter by returning funds also if they liked.
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I can agree that most of the people we see in the scam accusations section are dumbasses trying to apply pressure to a site to hopefully get paid. This particular case I disagree with.
Those particular scammers can easily be identified as they keep crying trying to defame the casino because they were fool enough to bet without reading the terms or even after loss they can't handle it.We should not give importance to them when we know about legit casino.But it's all good everything is sorted between you both.
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Well if you are not trying to make a scene then perhaps the only way is to ask them nicely again and probably ask them to return your funds with the promise of leaving the site forever? Pretty sure they would let you do that and its much better than having them seize your account. Probably they dont really allow sportsbettor to bet like and somehow make money from the rakeback though
If there is any abuse the casino won't allow you to get your funds back as they have stated earlier also even if you ask them because the player is at wrong side and they have taken action against him by seizing the funds.But yes if the casino finds it suitable they can close the matter by returning funds also if they liked. That is why they "check", that's the whole process is all about. If you did nothing wrong then they are going to end up checking and seeing if you are doing anything wrong or not, which is understandable and I can see why they would do that. If you did nothing wrong then they are going to end up with paying you the money and allow you to withdraw it easily, but to understand someone did nothing wrong, first they need to check it and see if that's actually the case. However, if you did something wrong then they are going to keep that money and in order to be able to see that, they have to halt the actions of that account first, check it, and figure out what's wrong, and they will tell the customer what was the abuse they did and just keep the money. That's how it is in every casino.
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However, if you did something wrong then they are going to keep that money and in order to be able to see that, they have to halt the actions of that account first, check it, and figure out what's wrong, and they will tell the customer what was the abuse they did and just keep the money. That's how it is in every casino.
When they find something suspicious in your account they will block it so the first thing is you can't withdraw the amount from your account because it's the first step the scammers will do after cheating.Then they investigate the matter and if found you on the right side after all the verification and you can also withdraw after that.
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May 13, 2023, 03:48:54 PM |
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Coming back to normal discussion about Rollbit if you are active on twitter they are now giving away $100 on different tweets like guess the slot , guess sports and others which is really impressive.Just want to share that with you all so if anyone is interested in these you can try it and have chance of winning the same.
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May 13, 2023, 04:27:17 PM |
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I can agree that most of the people we see in the scam accusations section are dumbasses trying to apply pressure to a site to hopefully get paid. This particular case I disagree with.
Those particular scammers can easily be identified as they keep crying trying to defame the casino because they were fool enough to bet without reading the terms or even after loss they can't handle it.We should not give importance to them when we know about legit casino.But it's all good everything is sorted between you both. When they play at a trusted casino site and they try to defame their name by saying that their account cannot be accessed or something else, people are frustrated because they have lost a lot of money, and it happened because they could not control themselves. There may be people who have actually experienced it, and usually they can provide authentic, credible evidence. But scammers like this usually can't provide any proof and they keep on babbling things that can tarnish the good name of the casino site. But, unfortunately, they don't know that they are playing on a trusted casino site and have lots of users. The arguments they convey can be refuted by other users without having to involve the team from the casino itself.
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May 13, 2023, 11:23:03 PM |
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However, if you did something wrong then they are going to keep that money and in order to be able to see that, they have to halt the actions of that account first, check it, and figure out what's wrong, and they will tell the customer what was the abuse they did and just keep the money. That's how it is in every casino.
When they find something suspicious in your account they will block it so the first thing is you can't withdraw the amount from your account because it's the first step the scammers will do after cheating.Then they investigate the matter and if found you on the right side after all the verification and you can also withdraw after that. This is what we called standard operating procedure or SOP. When there is abnormalities on the account, the first thing the casino will do is to prevent losses thus withdrawal is suspended to the point of account suspension. Next is validating their suspicion, if they are sure that a player violated the rule it is outright banned without any documentation needed from the player but if they suspect the player is playing from a restricted country, multi-accounting, then they will ask for documents to verify their claim. If there is no problem then the casino will return our account to normal state. The problem with a cheater is that they keep on insisting that they don't do wrong while not providing the needed documents required by the casino which prolong the case.
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May 14, 2023, 07:49:08 AM |
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Coming back to normal discussion about Rollbit if you are active on twitter they are now giving away $100 on different tweets like guess the slot , guess sports and others which is really impressive.Just want to share that with you all so if anyone is interested in these you can try it and have chance of winning the same.
I thought the guess slot has a clue like a piece of an image of the slot, but the clue is only the first alphabet ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's really random and no one have win yet, but I don't think there are 600 users haven't guess correctly. As for the recent accusations, it's better to discuss on scam accusation section because this thread isn't the right place. AFAIK Rollbit had a problem with their license and they have successfully renewed it, there's no complaint too in their social medias. I always feel skeptic against newbie account make a complaint and call everyone are scammers.
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May 14, 2023, 08:27:54 AM |
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Coming back to normal discussion about Rollbit if you are active on twitter they are now giving away $100 on different tweets like guess the slot , guess sports and others which is really impressive.Just want to share that with you all so if anyone is interested in these you can try it and have chance of winning the same.
Yeah I saw that and not only the best tweets in slot games but it's also on the GIFs and some other betting guesses. This is a pretty interesting bonus given by Rollbit because there are several options that we can follow to participate, besides that getting a $100 win is just an easy way and if we're lucky we can be chosen by Rollbit to get the prize. I am looking about NFT LOOTBOXES to be able to win listed NFTs or also cash or $RLB. Has anyone here tried it and gotten a sizable profit?
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May 14, 2023, 08:02:17 PM |
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I am looking about NFT LOOTBOXES to be able to win listed NFTs or also cash or $RLB. Has anyone here tried it and gotten a sizable profit?
Tried them obviously but winning NFT from these boxes are a different story. NFT lootboxes are mostly created by players therefore the odds to win an NFT through it usually are less than 0.01% which is absurd. You could win some cash or RLB from those boxes but you got higher chance of hitting decent profit from slots rather than hitting NFT from these
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May 14, 2023, 08:20:24 PM |
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Coming back to normal discussion about Rollbit if you are active on twitter they are now giving away $100 on different tweets like guess the slot , guess sports and others which is really impressive.Just want to share that with you all so if anyone is interested in these you can try it and have chance of winning the same.
Yeah, such a guessing contest is really interesting and a great way to being the community together again, I have participated in a few but have not been lucky lol, well, not actually luck though, but I am generally not good at guessing, coupled with the fact that I don't give special attentions to game design, environment and other factors that could aid in guessing correctly when some part of the game property is shown, most especially, slot games. Anyways, it's a great and interesting contest, and I hope all the members of Rollbit community here would join, it's one with a really good reward.
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May 14, 2023, 08:40:01 PM |
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Coming back to normal discussion about Rollbit if you are active on twitter they are now giving away $100 on different tweets like guess the slot , guess sports and others which is really impressive.Just want to share that with you all so if anyone is interested in these you can try it and have chance of winning the same.
Thank you for sharing this update, I am not aware of the guessing contest on Rollbit social media, and I did not follow them on Twitter before now but with the $100 giveaway from Rollbit, it will attract many players to actively participate in such promotion. And if I may suggest, I think having a free spin included in the giveaway it won't be a bad idea, $100 giveaway + free spin will be a dope combination that will usher in the casino to more market through the activities of those applying for the contest prize.
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