[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21

[Vaculin]

So this is it, we have the betting odds out already.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/opening-odds-manny-pacquiao-vs-errol-spence-jr-august-21st-2021/

Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr Opening Odds
Fighter   Odds at FOX Bet
Errol Spence Jr   -400
Manny Pacquiao   +300

That's a hell of an odds for Manny, bet $1000 and you'll get $3000 in return, would you skip that guys?

[Sithara007]

That's a hell of an odds for Manny, bet $1000 and you'll get $3000 in return, would you skip that guys?

I don't think that these odds are going to remain the same for more than a couple of days. As more and more fans of Pacquiao make their bets in his favor, the sportsbooks will be forced to adjust their odds. And we saw this happen during Pacquiao vs Thurman as well. Initially Pacquiao was an underdog as per betting odds, but then he rapidly narrowed the gap and eventually Pacquaio was placed with better odds when compared to Thurman. And the results also justified the adjustment in the odds.

[Kasabus]

That's a hell of an odds for Manny, bet $1000 and you'll get $3000 in return, would you skip that guys?

I don't think that these odds are going to remain the same for more than a couple of days. As more and more fans of Pacquiao make their bets in his favor, the sportsbooks will be forced to adjust their odds. And we saw this happen during Pacquiao vs Thurman as well. Initially Pacquiao was an underdog as per betting odds, but then he rapidly narrowed the gap and eventually Pacquaio was placed with better odds when compared to Thurman. And the results also justified the adjustment in the odds.

I saw the same on Thurman fight, in the opening odds, Thurman was the favorite but it was flip when the fight schedule was approaching. However, I think this one is quite different as Spence Jr. is a heavy favorite and in terms of standing, Spence Jr. is ahead over Thurman. I would not mind actually if the odds would not change, this is good for me as I'm a fan of Manny and I will certainly put my bet on him.

[Sanitough]

That's a hell of an odds for Manny, bet $1000 and you'll get $3000 in return, would you skip that guys?

I don't think that these odds are going to remain the same for more than a couple of days. As more and more fans of Pacquiao make their bets in his favor, the sportsbooks will be forced to adjust their odds. And we saw this happen during Pacquiao vs Thurman as well. Initially Pacquiao was an underdog as per betting odds, but then he rapidly narrowed the gap and eventually Pacquaio was placed with better odds when compared to Thurman. And the results also justified the adjustment in the odds.

I saw the same on Thurman fight, in the opening odds, Thurman was the favorite but it was flip when the fight schedule was approaching. However, I think this one is quite different as Spence Jr. is a heavy favorite and in terms of standing, Spence Jr. is ahead over Thurman. I would not mind actually if the odds would not change, this is good for me as I'm a fan of Manny and I will certainly put my bet on him.

I would not expect the odds will change here, I believe people are just too convinced that Spence is too much for money at his age. Maybe if he is at 30+ he will be a slight favorite here, but challenging a champion at 42 years old, there's a lot of proving to be done by Pacquiao here, or in short, he needs to shock the boxing world again.

[blockman]

That's a hell of an odds for Manny, bet $1000 and you'll get $3000 in return, would you skip that guys?

Looks like we've got some favorable odds but as the match goes near, the odds will for sure change. That's why we have to wait until a day before the match goes and everything will have it set. But if this is the opening odds, many are in favor of Spence but once we see more latest news and updates about this game. Things will change and we'll see that there are going to be more with Manny Pacquiao.

I don't think that these odds are going to remain the same for more than a couple of days. As more and more fans of Pacquiao make their bets in his favor, the sportsbooks will be forced to adjust their odds. And we saw this happen during Pacquiao vs Thurman as well. Initially Pacquiao was an underdog as per betting odds, but then he rapidly narrowed the gap and eventually Pacquaio was placed with better odds when compared to Thurman. And the results also justified the adjustment in the odds.

I agree to you, that was always been the case before. I saw it too when odds were not in favor of Pacquiao until it has changed as the fight night goes near.

[Sithara007]

I would not expect the odds will change here, I believe people are just too convinced that Spence is too much for money at his age. Maybe if he is at 30+ he will be a slight favorite here, but challenging a champion at 42 years old, there's a lot of proving to be done by Pacquiao here, or in short, he needs to shock the boxing world again.

Spence may be a better fighter at this point. But in all probability, this is going to be the farewell fight for Pacquiao and his fans are going to make a lot of bets. If by some chance Pacquaio wins despite these extremely low odds, the sportsbooks may face bankruptcy. If they want to take that risk, then it is fine. But my guess is that they will lower the odds, as more bets start pouring in. Don't expect Spence and Pacquiao supporters to bet on this match on equal amounts. IMO, at least 80% of the bets will be in Pacquiao's favor.

[kotajikikox]

I would not expect the odds will change here, I believe people are just too convinced that Spence is too much for money at his age. Maybe if he is at 30+ he will be a slight favorite here, but challenging a champion at 42 years old, there's a lot of proving to be done by Pacquiao here, or in short, he needs to shock the boxing world again.

Spence may be a better fighter at this point. But in all probability, this is going to be the farewell fight for Pacquiao and his fans are going to make a lot of bets. If by some chance Pacquaio wins despite these extremely low odds, the sportsbooks may face bankruptcy. If they want to take that risk, then it is fine. But my guess is that they will lower the odds, as more bets start pouring in. Don't expect Spence and Pacquiao supporters to bet on this match on equal amounts. IMO, at least 80% of the bets will be in Pacquiao's favor.

sorry but Farewell Game of Manny pacquiao? from where this come from ?

Manny does not even mentioned about His retirement ( things that i mistakenly believe earlier) but for sure this will not be the last fight of Manny Gods Willing.

There are many plans from his Boxing and political career so maybe both are connected to each other.

[Twinkledoe]

That's a hell of an odds for Manny, bet $1000 and you'll get $3000 in return, would you skip that guys?

Looks like we've got some favorable odds but as the match goes near, the odds will for sure change. That's why we have to wait until a day before the match goes and everything will have it set. But if this is the opening odds, many are in favor of Spence but once we see more latest news and updates about this game. Things will change and we'll see that there are going to be more with Manny Pacquiao.

I don't think that these odds are going to remain the same for more than a couple of days. As more and more fans of Pacquiao make their bets in his favor, the sportsbooks will be forced to adjust their odds. And we saw this happen during Pacquiao vs Thurman as well. Initially Pacquiao was an underdog as per betting odds, but then he rapidly narrowed the gap and eventually Pacquaio was placed with better odds when compared to Thurman. And the results also justified the adjustment in the odds.

I agree to you, that was always been the case before. I saw it too when odds were not in favor of Pacquiao until it has changed as the fight night goes near.

Fiat bookies have this fight already? Because I am not seeing yet this match in known crypto sportsbooks here in the forum. But guessing also that the odds will change once the fight is getting near. So if you are rooting for Pacquiao, better bet on him once these crypto bookies list this match. Because the odds will change once the fight is getting near and they are realizing that Pac has still power on him.

[btc_angela]

That's a hell of an odds for Manny, bet $1000 and you'll get $3000 in return, would you skip that guys?

Looks like we've got some favorable odds but as the match goes near, the odds will for sure change. That's why we have to wait until a day before the match goes and everything will have it set. But if this is the opening odds, many are in favor of Spence but once we see more latest news and updates about this game. Things will change and we'll see that there are going to be more with Manny Pacquiao.

I don't think that these odds are going to remain the same for more than a couple of days. As more and more fans of Pacquiao make their bets in his favor, the sportsbooks will be forced to adjust their odds. And we saw this happen during Pacquiao vs Thurman as well. Initially Pacquiao was an underdog as per betting odds, but then he rapidly narrowed the gap and eventually Pacquaio was placed with better odds when compared to Thurman. And the results also justified the adjustment in the odds.

I agree to you, that was always been the case before. I saw it too when odds were not in favor of Pacquiao until it has changed as the fight night goes near.

Fiat bookies have this fight already? Because I am not seeing yet this match in known crypto sportsbooks here in the forum. But guessing also that the odds will change once the fight is getting near. So if you are rooting for Pacquiao, better bet on him once these crypto bookies list this match. Because the odds will change once the fight is getting near and they are realizing that Pac has still power on him.

Not sure about fiat bookies, but obviously, for crypto bookies, no, the odds are not yet out.

But we can have a idea how it will be, Pacman seems to be the underdog, so this is good news for Manny fans as it will give us a good returns if we put money on him. Regardless of the betting odds, many are still on the Pacman's bandwagon, based on the last fight against Thurman. He still has a chance to win against a dangerous Spence.

[Distinctin]

based on the last fight against Thurman. He still has a chance to win against a dangerous Spence.

Pacquiao is more dangerous as he is underestimated now, he might shock the boxing experts again.

After a win against Thurman, they still can't believe that Manny could win even against any young fighter, I guess they have some problem.
I'll be cheering for our "People's champ" and I believe he will win this fight.

[stadus]

based on the last fight against Thurman. He still has a chance to win against a dangerous Spence.

Pacquiao is more dangerous as he is underestimated now, he might shock the boxing experts again.

After a win against Thurman, they still can't believe that Manny could win even against any young fighter, I guess they have some problem.
I'll be cheering for our "People's champ" and I believe he will win this fight.

He is always dangerous as a fighter, but he is not as strong as he was so his KO power percent is lower now.
For Spence, if he can hit Manny with a solid counterpunch, we might see what happens to the Marquez vs Pacquiao fight, but hopefully, it won't happen as we don't know if Pacquiao's body could still recover from that. He knows his body, he took this challenge, so let's assume that he is prepared and knows the risk.

[Kemarit]

based on the last fight against Thurman. He still has a chance to win against a dangerous Spence.

Pacquiao is more dangerous as he is underestimated now, he might shock the boxing experts again.

After a win against Thurman, they still can't believe that Manny could win even against any young fighter, I guess they have some problem.
I'll be cheering for our "People's champ" and I believe he will win this fight.

He is always dangerous as a fighter, but he is not as strong as he was so his KO power percent is lower now.
For Spence, if he can hit Manny with a solid counterpunch, we might see what happens to the Marquez vs Pacquiao fight, but hopefully, it won't happen as we don't know if Pacquiao's body could still recover from that. He knows his body, he took this challenge, so let's assume that he is prepared and knows the risk.

The bigger puncher here will be Spence obviously, but again, we should give credit for Pacquiao for taking this fight because it will be dangerous if he gets countered like Marquez and it will be the end.

Him and the team knows the risk, so they will be prepared to fight until the end. I do hope that Pacquiao still improves his stamina, this is one area that I'm concern, it was evident in the Thurman fight that Pacquiao seems to gas out in the championship round. Good though that he has build a lead, specially that knock down that he scored.

[yazher]

True, because most fans do not consider the KO loss of Manny against Marquez was a good one, they will always think Marquez just got lucky. If Spence will KO Pacman, I guess that would send Manny to retirement, a thing that Thurman promise but failed to do to him.

If he can do that, then most likely he will become the current most expensive fighter in the boxing industry. But he needs to do it flawlessly because a unanimous or split decision doesn't look like a good scenario when it comes to beat Manny Pacquiao. It should be a clean K.O like Marquez does to him. Pacquiao should retire now after this fight no matter what the outcome will be because he is already into other things. even though he always says that "boxing is his passion", when it comes to his age, he already at his peak.

[Sithara007]

sorry but Farewell Game of Manny pacquiao? from where this come from ?

Manny does not even mentioned about His retirement ( things that i mistakenly believe earlier) but for sure this will not be the last fight of Manny Gods Willing.

There are many plans from his Boxing and political career so maybe both are connected to each other.

Well.. it is clear that Manny won't be taking part in any fight during 2022, because he is participating in the presidential election. There is a chance of another fight in 2021, after the one against Spence. But I don't think that it is realistic. If they want another one, then the planning needs to be done now, and Pacquiao's team hasn't shown any interest in it. Also, Manny had earlier stated that he wants his farewell fight in Vegas. So this fight has all the characteristics of a farewell fight.

[wxa7115]

I thought Pacquiao will have the rematch to May Weather, this is the rematch that I want to watch again, as both boxers are really great and have different skills and ways on boxing, anyway with this fight. Errol Spence has the advantage in terms of age so I think he can show how speed and how strong he is,

Forget it as that wasn't on Mayweather's bucket list.

The only chance you will see them back in boxing is if Manny is retired now and they will put up an exhibition match. Easy money without putting hard tasks on their body.

Spence is a good pick. A popular one and currently in his prime. And age should not be looked at whenever there's a Pacquiao fight as he has already proven that he can deal with the young boxers.

Even then I doubt it would happen, Floyd even if he is still retired will not risk getting a loss with anyone at this point on his carrer, so even if a loss in an exhibition fight will not go to his professional record he is never going to accept any match in which there was even the smallest chance of this happening.

So I think people need to accept the fact that we are never going to see those two on the same ring again, something that is not as bad as it may seem as it is not like their only fight was incredibly exciting or anything.

[7788bitcoin]

Well.. it is clear that Manny won't be taking part in any fight during 2022, because he is participating in the presidential election.

What are the chances that we will see Manny Pacquiao as the president, a legendary boxer becoming the leader of any country would be the first time in history and hopefully we will see that happen if this is true.

There is a chance of another fight in 2021, after the one against Spence. But I don't think that it is realistic. If they want another one, then the planning needs to be done now, and Pacquiao's team hasn't shown any interest in it. Also, Manny had earlier stated that he wants his farewell fight in Vegas. So this fight has all the characteristics of a farewell fight.

Lets see how this fight goes as it is not going to be an easy fight and it is best to take things slowly rather than rushing things and if this to become the last fight of his career then it makes sense if he is really running for the presidency. But still i would like to see the rematch against Floyd Mayweather before his  retirement.

[stadus]

So I think people need to accept the fact that we are never going to see those two on the same ring again, something that is not as bad as it may seem as it is not like their only fight was incredibly exciting or anything.

Me, I'm done expecting because I already appreciate how brave Manny is by accepting the challenge of Spence, and now, we are going to witness one of the biggest fights in boxing and Manny made it possible as he did not demand a bigger purse in this fight. Kudos to him for making boxing great again.

[xenon131]

So I think people need to accept the fact that we are never going to see those two on the same ring again, something that is not as bad as it may seem as it is not like their only fight was incredibly exciting or anything.

Me, I'm done expecting because I already appreciate how brave Manny is by accepting the challenge of Spence, and now, we are going to witness one of the biggest fights in boxing and Manny made it possible as he did not demand a bigger purse in this fight. Kudos to him for making boxing great again.

 Manny got an offer of a striking  fight  and he accepted it. Having his 42 and being the greatest of all time he could reject to fight with Spence but he didn't and   I fully respect him for that. Probably he  and his team have their  own plot for the coming fight,  who knows. I believe in Manny and wish him to demonstrate the highest level of the boxing skills he has.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I'm thinking if Logan beat Mayweather and then Manny Pacquiao beat Spence, then the majority of boxing experts will consider Manny Pacquiao as the greatest boxer of all time and he will be unopposed with his claim as the greatest, the two coming fights of the two greatest will somewhat create an impact on their legacy.

We will see this debate over the next 50 years, as who is the best between the two in their generation, but even today the argument will go on and on. Floyd already stated that he doesn't care about his legacy anymore, because whatever he do, there will be critics of him. So he might just as well make easy money with this exhibition match, while on the other side, Manny continues to challenge himself with young generation of boxers like this one.

[Sanitough]

I'm thinking if Logan beat Mayweather and then Manny Pacquiao beat Spence, then the majority of boxing experts will consider Manny Pacquiao as the greatest boxer of all time and he will be unopposed with his claim as the greatest, the two coming fights of the two greatest will somewhat create an impact on their legacy.

We will see this debate over the next 50 years, as who is the best between the two in their generation, but even today the argument will go on and on. Floyd already stated that he doesn't care about his legacy anymore, because whatever he do, there will be critics of him. So he might just as well make easy money with this exhibition match, while on the other side, Manny continues to challenge himself with young generation of boxers like this one.

I can't believe that, if he doesn't care about his undefeated record and just want easy money, why not come back to boxing, fight Manny Pacquiao or Canelo Alvarez, both of these fighters are very popular now, a fight could easily reach $100 million in revenue.