[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21

[bbc.reporter]

After hearing that Spence is going to retire Pacquiao, it seems though that he mellow his statements against the Manny specially after they have a photo shoot and some sort of media interview. I've read a lot of Spence interviews and it seems that he really respect Pacquiao. And se said that it will be like passing of the torch if he beats the legends. But make no mistakes about it, yes Manny is also respecting him, but come fight, I don't think that Manny will get him off the hook here.

Hehehe Pacman is always respectful outside of the ring. I am a fan, however, sometimes I hate his interviews because he does not tell everyone what is in his mind. This might be because he cannot express himself well when he is speaking in English. He should hire a translator. This might make him look tougher similar to those Mexican boxers when they speak in Spanish hehehehe.

[blockman]

Yes, it isn't avoidable but that's just an opinion of me because if the topic is all about Pacquiao's political career, you'll really see a lot that are willing to discuss about it. Anyway, I've seen this news about Paradigm and Pacquiao but I'm sure that this has already been settled and there's no need to worry for the upcoming.
(https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/7/31/22603351/paradigm-sports-management-seeks-injunction-to-stop-manny-pacquiao-vs-errol-spence-boxing-news-2021)

It will not be settled right away, it might take time as this is a lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao for breaching a contract but this issue is already over, people are already tired of discussing it, instead, they focus on the politics and what's happening now about this fight. 

If there's no success for Paradigm in stopping his match against Spence which we're hoping for. Then, there shouldn't be any problem as they have to settle this after the match. I think that Paradigm is really digging on this situation and put some heat on it but Pacquiao and his team knows how to handle it. I cannot think of it that why Paradigm can't just let it pass and if Pacquiao breached their contract, they should have contacted him because the announcement of his fight. The first announcement came from Pacquiao on his social media account and why they didn't acted on it immediately? they've planned it long before the match is about to come.

[Twinkledoe]

After hearing that Spence is going to retire Pacquiao, it seems though that he mellow his statements against the Manny specially after they have a photo shoot and some sort of media interview. I've read a lot of Spence interviews and it seems that he really respect Pacquiao. And se said that it will be like passing of the torch if he beats the legends. But make no mistakes about it, yes Manny is also respecting him, but come fight, I don't think that Manny will get him off the hook here.

Many boxers had said the same - they will put Pacquiao into retirement just like the last one, Thurman. But they ended up respecting Pac after their fight inside the ring. Sometimes trash talks are needed any way to sell the fight. But this fight, I guess a lot are really looking forward to watch as it may be the last fight of Pacquiao before hanging his gloves.

[molsewid]

I am not sure whether Pacquiao would spend any of his personal wealth on the presidential campaign. Campaign funds are usually sourced from the public and the corporates. There have been exceptions, and one example is during the 2016 US presidential election when Donald Trump spent a lot of his own personal wealth on the campaign. Also, I don't think that the outcome of his fight against Errol Spence Jr will have any impact on the presidential race. He is already a well known figure in the Philippines and he don't need any such boost.

I don't have enough idea when it comes to a campaign funds that the politician spend on his campaign but I think Pacquiao can still spend his own money to pursue his plan to run as a candidate on a presidential position but maybe a minimum amount because he can still get a financial support from the party where he join. In addition to this, I agree that the outcome of Pacquiao's fight against Errol Spence Jr will not give assurance on a significant impact on his campaign because aside from Pacquioa is already a well known figure in Philippines, he still trying hard to prove his excellence in terms of politics.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I am not sure whether Pacquiao would spend any of his personal wealth on the presidential campaign. Campaign funds are usually sourced from the public and the corporates. There have been exceptions, and one example is during the 2016 US presidential election when Donald Trump spent a lot of his own personal wealth on the campaign. Also, I don't think that the outcome of his fight against Errol Spence Jr will have any impact on the presidential race. He is already a well known figure in the Philippines and he don't need any such boost.

I don't have enough idea when it comes to a campaign funds that the politician spend on his campaign but I think Pacquiao can still spend his own money to pursue his plan to run as a candidate on a presidential position but maybe a minimum amount because he can still get a financial support from the party where he join. In addition to this, I agree that the outcome of Pacquiao's fight against Errol Spence Jr will not give assurance on a significant impact on his campaign because aside from Pacquioa is already a well known figure in Philippines, he still trying hard to prove his excellence in terms of politics.

He can't go any political party because oppositions have their standard bearer as of now. The best possible scenario for Pacquiao is to have his own party and be their obvious presidential candidate.

@bbc.reporter - yes, that's one mental game that Manny is playing, that many of his opponents are not seeing. I don't think though he need translators, he just want to "play possum" during interviews and let his hands do the talking inside the ring.

[Russlenat]

I am not sure whether Pacquiao would spend any of his personal wealth on the presidential campaign. Campaign funds are usually sourced from the public and the corporates. There have been exceptions, and one example is during the 2016 US presidential election when Donald Trump spent a lot of his own personal wealth on the campaign. Also, I don't think that the outcome of his fight against Errol Spence Jr will have any impact on the presidential race. He is already a well known figure in the Philippines and he don't need any such boost.

I don't have enough idea when it comes to a campaign funds that the politician spend on his campaign but I think Pacquiao can still spend his own money to pursue his plan to run as a candidate on a presidential position but maybe a minimum amount because he can still get a financial support from the party where he join. In addition to this, I agree that the outcome of Pacquiao's fight against Errol Spence Jr will not give assurance on a significant impact on his campaign because aside from Pacquioa is already a well known figure in Philippines, he still trying hard to prove his excellence in terms of politics.

He definitely can afford that, but Manny is also a businessman at the same time and he finds opportunities to make more money, he is not yet donned in boxing, this is an opportunity for him to fight the champion and make more money from PPV revenue and other platforms. He has the luxury though as one fight of his might already cover all the expenses for his political campaign.

[mirakal]

I am not sure whether Pacquiao would spend any of his personal wealth on the presidential campaign. Campaign funds are usually sourced from the public and the corporates. There have been exceptions, and one example is during the 2016 US presidential election when Donald Trump spent a lot of his own personal wealth on the campaign. Also, I don't think that the outcome of his fight against Errol Spence Jr will have any impact on the presidential race. He is already a well known figure in the Philippines and he don't need any such boost.

I don't have enough idea when it comes to a campaign funds that the politician spend on his campaign but I think Pacquiao can still spend his own money to pursue his plan to run as a candidate on a presidential position but maybe a minimum amount because he can still get a financial support from the party where he join. In addition to this, I agree that the outcome of Pacquiao's fight against Errol Spence Jr will not give assurance on a significant impact on his campaign because aside from Pacquioa is already a well known figure in Philippines, he still trying hard to prove his excellence in terms of politics.

He definitely can afford that, but Manny is also a businessman at the same time and he finds opportunities to make more money, he is not yet donned in boxing, this is an opportunity for him to fight the champion and make more money from PPV revenue and other platforms. He has the luxury though as one fight of his might already cover all the expenses for his political campaign.

I think this is enough to tell that he can afford.

Manny Pacquiao world’s third-richest boxer behind Floyd Mayweather Jnr and George Foreman

And I don't think it he needs at least 1 billion pesos to fund the campaign. I'm sure he also has some sponsors as he could be the greatest rival of the administration now.

[KTChampions]

I don't have enough idea when it comes to a campaign funds that the politician spend on his campaign but I think Pacquiao can still spend his own money to pursue his plan to run as a candidate on a presidential position but maybe a minimum amount because he can still get a financial support from the party where he join. In addition to this, I agree that the outcome of Pacquiao's fight against Errol Spence Jr will not give assurance on a significant impact on his campaign because aside from Pacquioa is already a well known figure in Philippines, he still trying hard to prove his excellence in terms of politics.

It seems to me that spending your own funds on the presidential campaign is not a good idea. The main point in fundraising for a campaign is not the amount of money you have for advertising, but the number of people who are ready to financially support you as a candidate. If you have money but no support from people, then you shouldn't even start.
As for the result of the fight, it can affect the image of Pacquiao - if he loses, it can harm his image, especially if the fight is easy for the opponent.

[yazher]

I think this is enough to tell that he can afford.

Manny Pacquiao world’s third-richest boxer behind Floyd Mayweather Jnr and George Foreman

And I don't think it he needs at least 1 billion pesos to fund the campaign. I'm sure he also has some sponsors as he could be the greatest rival of the administration now.

To be honest, what he needs to focus on right now is to win the upcoming fight which will boost his popularity if he ended up victorious by completely dominating his opponent. The fight will determine if he gonna pursue to make his dream to become the next President of the Philippines but if he lost, I think that's one indication he needs to stop his ambition and focus on helping people to which ever things he has right now because presidency doesn't really need if you are sincere for helping people just like Dennis Rodman did when he gives toys to the children on the hospitals, no camera no media or whatsoever just pure good deeds.

[Viscore]

I think this is enough to tell that he can afford.

Manny Pacquiao world’s third-richest boxer behind Floyd Mayweather Jnr and George Foreman

And I don't think it he needs at least 1 billion pesos to fund the campaign. I'm sure he also has some sponsors as he could be the greatest rival of the administration now.

To be honest, what he needs to focus on right now is to win the upcoming fight which will boost his popularity if he ended up victorious by completely dominating his opponent. The fight will determine if he gonna pursue to make his dream to become the next President of the Philippines but if he lost, I think that's one indication he needs to stop his ambition and focus on helping people to which ever things he has right now because presidency doesn't really need if you are sincere for helping people just like Dennis Rodman did when he gives toys to the children on the hospitals, no camera no media or whatsoever just pure good deeds.

Manny Pacquiao is an underdog in this fight and in the coming presidential election, but if I have to choose where to bet, I think I will bet on this fight as he has a good chance of winning here. He can always help people if he wants, but his ambition is too high while his platform is not even realistic, just like when he said that he will give houses to all squatters which we know will not happen.

[bryant.coleman]

As for the result of the fight, it can affect the image of Pacquiao - if he loses, it can harm his image, especially if the fight is easy for the opponent.

Well. that's the point. The current president (Rodrigo Duterte) is having sky high approval ratings and naturally we can expect the same level of support being transferred to the individual he endorses (Duterte can't take part in the 2022 elections due to term limitation). The issue here is that in case Pacquaio loses badly and fails to qualify for the second round (if that is required), then it can ruin his plans for the future presidential runs. In the future, people will not take his political ambitions seriously if he performs poorly in 2022. The best thing for him to do will be to skip 2022, and to focus on the election after that.

[Taskford]

Being President has a lot of responsibilities to take. I can't say much on this because I don't want to underestimate Pacquiao's capabilities. Who knows, a country doesn't need a very well educated individual to make a change? But of course, when it comes to boxing, I am rooting for him. Excited to watch this fight as I'm placing bets on him.

His track record in politics will give everyone the idea if he is capable to handle bigger things and responsibilities as public servant.

But it seems those records and numbers gives the judgment that he isn't capable. Yeah, let us go back to the odds.

For his record the top 1 most absentee senator in Philippines it show that he is not really capable to handle the job plus he is not capable mentally since we know he doesn't have anything to prove yet as his reputation about this is totally zero. I don't judge Pacquiao as bad politician but he's not ripped yet to handle the office maybe he should study the law first and study the different issues occurs in his country so that in future maybe in year 2030 he is well equipped and knowledgeable politician.

[lienfaye]

I think this is enough to tell that he can afford.

Manny Pacquiao world’s third-richest boxer behind Floyd Mayweather Jnr and George Foreman

And I don't think it he needs at least 1 billion pesos to fund the campaign. I'm sure he also has some sponsors as he could be the greatest rival of the administration now.

No doubt he has the capability to sustain the financial expenses needed for his political campaign and this upcoming fight (if ever he win) can also be a plus point for him to get the votes of the people. Im thinking this way because we know some people prefer a popular personality especially if they are a fan regardless of the background of this particular person running for the position. Well its too early to judge but I hope we learn our lesson from the past administration.

Nevertheless for now lets focus on this fight and forget for a while the event next year.

[stadus]

Just an update on the betting odds of the fight, betting odds for Pacquiao to win have decrease again.

opening line AFAIR.

1. 2.80
2. 2.65
now 2.47

Big decrease, this means money is flowing on Manny Pacquiao to win.
please check your bookies to confirm.

[blockman]

To be honest, what he needs to focus on right now is to win the upcoming fight which will boost his popularity if he ended up victorious by completely dominating his opponent.

It is what it is that he needs to focus on, the political topic is really going to be unstoppable since he's already announced his desire to run for the highest position in the government. As said, winning first about this match is what he needs to take care of then if the match is done, win or lose then that would be the unstoppable discussion about his candidacy. There is an article that I've read that those who are trying to buy ticket are now having hard time to buy one.

[Baofeng]

Just an update on the betting odds of the fight, betting odds for Pacquiao to win have decrease again.

opening line AFAIR.

1. 2.80
2. 2.65
now 2.47

Big decrease, this means money is flowing on Manny Pacquiao to win.
please check your bookies to confirm.

Yeah, from 2.50 to 2.47 now, down to 3 weeks and I'm sure that the odds are going to be trim down to somewhat in the low 2.x or higher 1.x.

Obviously, money are already pouring on Manny's side now as we get closer to the fight.

Spence 1.48, just putting it down so that we may know if there is going to be some changes as well. And for sure, boxing fans are excited about this fight, and then maybe we can talk about Manny's chance on politics about the fight.

[Russlenat]

Just an update on the betting odds of the fight, betting odds for Pacquiao to win have decrease again.

opening line AFAIR.

1. 2.80
2. 2.65
now 2.47

Big decrease, this means money is flowing on Manny Pacquiao to win.
please check your bookies to confirm.

Yeah, from 2.50 to 2.47 now, down to 3 weeks and I'm sure that the odds are going to be trim down to somewhat in the low 2.x or higher 1.x.

Obviously, money are already pouring on Manny's side now as we get closer to the fight.

Spence 1.48, just putting it down so that we may know if there is going to be some changes as well. And for sure, boxing fans are excited about this fight, and then maybe we can talk about Manny's chance on politics about the fight.

I would not be surprised now if Manny ended up as a slight underdog only in the fight, if I have a lot of extra money now, I would not hesitate to take that 2.47 and I'm pretty sure that would not be seen weeks from now. Manny keeps going and he seemed to be focused on his training since he does not talk about politics, he is just so cool, trying to impress the fans with his daily routine, this guy is so friendly, no wonder people are coming back to the gym to see him.

[harizen]

opening line AFAIR.

1. 2.80
2. 2.65
now 2.47

Odds for Spence Jr have slightly adjusted too from 1.4 (afaik this is the opening line right?) to 1.5.

Just a slight movement but it means there's a possibility to move more while the fight is approaching. For me,  it will settle between 1.4-1.5 Spence / 2.4.2.5 Pacquiao a day before the fight.

A couple of weeks to go and we will now see the action.

[tippytoes]

opening line AFAIR.

1. 2.80
2. 2.65
now 2.47

Odds for Spence Jr have slightly adjusted too from 1.4 (afaik this is the opening line right?) to 1.5.

Just a slight movement but it means there's a possibility to move more while the fight is approaching. For me,  it will settle between 1.4-1.5 Spence / 2.4.2.5 Pacquiao a day before the fight.

A couple of weeks to go and we will now see the action.

Just to share that if you are really rooting for Pacquiao and you want to bet on him, you can try betja - https://betja.com/sport/boxing/world-fights-318137/errol-spence-v-manny-pacquiao-1101, their odds for Pacquiao is still at 3.0 while other bookies are already down to 2.44 (bitsler). Betja is relatively new sportsbooks here, and what they are promoting is their odds are really better than other. I don't think they will ruin their reputation in case, because they are just new.

[7788bitcoin]

I would not be surprised now if Manny ended up as a slight underdog only in the fight, if I have a lot of extra money now, I would not hesitate to take that 2.47 and I'm pretty sure that would not be seen weeks from now. Manny keeps going and he seemed to be focused on his training since he does not talk about politics, he is just so cool, trying to impress the fans with his daily routine, this guy is so friendly, no wonder people are coming back to the gym to see him.

It is possible that the lines might come down in the coming weeks and if you are confident enough that Manny Pacquiao is going to win the fight then this is the best time to wage a bet, my take on the fight is that if it goes to the decision there is no way the judges are going to give the fight to Manny Pacquiao and we have seen these stupid decision making judges in the past and he needs to knock him out to be the winner and i doubt he has that same speed that could surprise Errol Spence.