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Author Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread  (Read 40429 times)
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January 31, 2022, 06:12:59 PM
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any built in ability for a vpn or tor?

my concern is mining at home over clearnnet

The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.

Project Apollo: A Pod Miner Designed for the Home https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036
FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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January 31, 2022, 08:59:24 PM
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any built in ability for a vpn or tor?

my concern is mining at home over clearnnet

The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.

Except never got cpuminer to run.
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January 31, 2022, 09:58:35 PM
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any built in ability for a vpn or tor?

my concern is mining at home over clearnnet

The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.

except you can't run anything which uses CPU because controller will overheat and entire miner may shutdown. That's by design to keep device quiet, apparently.
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January 31, 2022, 10:21:47 PM
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any built in ability for a vpn or tor?

my concern is mining at home over clearnnet

The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.

except you can't run anything which uses CPU because controller will overheat and entire miner may shutdown. That's by design to keep device quiet, apparently.
C-Lightning doesn't need a lot of resources. I will definitely try to do it in like 3 steps to avoid too much load at once:
1) Blockchain IBD
2) C-Lightning setup
3) Start mining

Do you know if we can get the nice web interface that comes on the image files onto a clean Debian install (or similar)?
And where did you get the miner binary from, again?

I may be going to create a guide to replicate my setup eventually, since I see a lot of people here try to kind of do what it's advertised to do (be a full computer with potential for installing LN etc.) but have no idea how.

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February 02, 2022, 05:53:00 PM
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verify that the cable used to connect two units is a mini usb to mini usb.
Can you give me a link to something on amazon so I know what to order as an example.


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0135/3193/8875/files/mini-vs-micro-usb_large.jpg?v=1557770667
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February 02, 2022, 06:13:05 PM
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Okay so what is the cable that connects 2 miners in this case. Both ends need to be what________________?


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February 02, 2022, 09:41:45 PM
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Okay so what is the cable that connects 2 miners in this case. Both ends need to be what________________?


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Its a USB to Micro USB cable, but you should have received one if you ordered a standard unit.

Project Apollo: A Pod Miner Designed for the Home https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036
FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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February 02, 2022, 11:11:11 PM
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Can I install an LTC full node on the BTC miner?
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February 03, 2022, 01:12:17 AM
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Can I install an LTC full node on the BTC miner?
In theory yes, it's a 'normal PC'. In practice, you'll have to see if you got the thermal headroom, CPU headroom and disk space headroom for it.
Because it's a very very small 'normal PC'... Wink

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February 03, 2022, 08:26:04 AM
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I found this miner less expensive that GekkoScience Compac F for btc mining.
What's different this miner from GekkoScience Compac F?
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February 03, 2022, 11:13:56 AM
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I found this miner less expensive that GekkoScience Compac F for btc mining.
What's different this miner from GekkoScience Compac F?
That's wrong. A compac F will be around $250 while this is more like 4x the price.
And it has much more than 4x the hashpower.

1x CompacF: 300GH/s
1x Apollo: 3.8TH/s

So you would need over 10 Compacs to reach the Apollo's speed, which would cost you almost $3000, compared to ~$1000 for an Apollo.

The one point for the Compac-F is that it's super efficient. It runs at around 15W, so you will probably never mine at a loss and even if you are, you're only losing a few pennies a month.

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February 03, 2022, 11:32:12 AM
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It runs at around 15W, so you will probably never mine at a loss

300 GH/s earns you $18.84 a year at today's rate. You may as well buy $20 of Bitcoin and have positive return after a year (when you sell for $30), instead of buying $300 miner and never have a ROI.
Mining in a pool doesn't make sense with USB miners, only solo mining is left as a reasonable choice. Meaning, you always "mine at a loss" until you hit the block, of course, which for 99% of people, will never happen.
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February 03, 2022, 11:35:46 AM
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It runs at around 15W, so you will probably never mine at a loss

300 GH/s earns you $18.84 a year at today's rate. You may as well buy $20 of Bitcoin and have positive return after a year (when you sell for $30), instead of buying $300 miner and never have a ROI.
Mining in a pool doesn't make sense with USB miners, only solo mining is left as a reasonable choice. Meaning, you always "mine at a loss" until you hit the block, of course, which for 99% of people, will never happen.
Yes, that's pretty much correct. Though you don't factor in the resale value. You could run them for a year and sell them at MSRP, probably. But of course, makes little sense economically, it's much easier to just DCA.
One thing I love about home mining (esp. with sticks) is that you are DCA'ing without KYC and getting Bitcoin without KYC / AML little by little, just by paying a bit more for electricity. And with sticks you can easily 'scale'; $1000 is a lot of money for most people to spend on a miner. $200 or $250 might be easier to justify. Then after a while get a second, third, etc. - with Apollo it's obviously more like 'all in or nothing'. Grin

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February 03, 2022, 04:04:41 PM
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I'm new here.  Minned BTC on my discrete gpu in 2013 and sold it all at $125/₿.  Grin

Jumping back into mining, so I bought myslef a Futurebit node/miner.  

Fully agree with the DCA via electricity for Non-KYC!

Honesty, I also got one because I got scared when I saw how few nodes are protecting the Blockchain.  Even more so that USA only has 1770 nodes.  Huh Bitnodes.io

Figured it's time to step up and do my part to help the community and my own holdings.


Quote from: n0nce link=topic=5340015.msg59145980#msg59145980
Yes, that's pretty much correct. Though you don't factor in the resale value. You could run them for a year and sell them at MSRP, probably. But of course, makes little sense economically, it's much easier to just DCA.
One thing I love about home mining (esp. with sticks) is that you are DCA'ing without KYC and getting Bitcoin without KYC / AML little by little, just by paying a bit more for electricity. And with sticks you can easily 'scale'; $1000 is a lot of money for most people to spend on a miner. $200 or $250 might be easier to justify. Then after a while get a second, third, etc. - with Apollo it's obviously more like 'all in or nothing'. Grin
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February 03, 2022, 06:57:39 PM
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Can I install an LTC full node on the BTC miner?

[1] Why would you want to?
[2] What value would it provide to you?
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February 03, 2022, 07:19:08 PM
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Dr. J!!!....my man...the boys arrived beautifully and I have hooked them up to the initial apollo unit I had running...only thing is I am still trying to figure out how to get the two new miners up and running...lol...any advice would be appreciated...regardless bro...a big thanks to you and the crew there at Futurebit...you guys really do an awesome job please please keep up the great work... Smiley Wink Grin Cool
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February 03, 2022, 09:56:40 PM
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Dr. J!!!....my man...the boys arrived beautifully and I have hooked them up to the initial apollo unit I had running...only thing is I am still trying to figure out how to get the two new miners up and running...lol...any advice would be appreciated...regardless bro...a big thanks to you and the crew there at Futurebit...you guys really do an awesome job please please keep up the great work... Smiley Wink Grin Cool

Just reach out via email if your having any issues. If you got two extra standard units just shutdown your full node, plug in the new units to their power supplies and the USB cable to the back of the main unit, fire up the full node and it should auto recognize them and start mining. Keep in mind you might need an extra USB hub if you have more than 2.

Project Apollo: A Pod Miner Designed for the Home https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036
FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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February 03, 2022, 10:28:10 PM
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Dr. J...did as you instructed and yup the babies came up and mining has begun... Grin...but I am getting hardware errors on one of them...sent an email to futurebit to assist...I look forward to response...for now though...thank you thank you for great job... Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool
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February 04, 2022, 02:35:50 AM
Last edit: February 04, 2022, 04:22:41 AM by notabeliever
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All set with the cable thanks all. The good thing its one that we get with a lot of table and phone devices. The hookup was painless  and both hashing great.
Nice to see 313 watts used with 6TH hashing at the balance setting. I remember my Avalon 721 needing 1200watts for 6TH. Oh so quite too
Thanks for making this device possible
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February 04, 2022, 07:43:22 PM
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Dr. J!!!...my man...wanted to real quick let you know that the new miner that was giving me hardware errors yesterday when I first brought it up online...seems to have settled down overnight and the hardware error messages are gone...he is running spiffy like his brothers...3 brothers running in tandem and seamless...I love it...aye indeed you be the master...hehehe... Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool...once again my thanks to you and the crew at Futurebit...a loyal fan...Tempestblack
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