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June 15, 2021, 08:52:23 AM
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Praying and gambling... interesting combination. Praying on this case is asking for a favour of the gods or god for your own personal purposes. I only know a few religions, but most of them are not that much concerned with the completion of the specific goals of the individual in terms of wealth - arguably, some tv priests do sell that to people - so praying would philosophically be quite offensive to most deities in modern times. I am not so sure it will be a bad thing is you adore Satan, The Flying Spaghetti Monster or you are Jedi.

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I came across this news that may have a place in this topic.

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According to prosecutors, Kreuper was the principal of St. James Catholic School in Torrance for 28 years and admitted to embezzling money from the institution for a decade, ending in 2018
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June 17, 2021, 02:38:30 PM
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Why don't you just go for a test and place 100 bets with praying and 100 bets without praying. Then you check whether there is a statistically significant deviation from one form of betting to the other. I am sorry to tell you the result upfront, but there won't be a difference. Otherwise the whole betting scene would turn into a religious cult for sure. Wink

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June 17, 2021, 03:11:58 PM
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Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.

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June 17, 2021, 03:38:13 PM
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Gamblers always believe in luck, and if you are true gamblers, you will agree with the truth that gambling always involves prayers, most especially if you believe in the power of God.
That's a bit over the top, I don't think discrediting yourself in favor of praising some invisible guy upstairs is a good thing, believe that your strategy works and that it's your doing that you win and not because of luck or a prayer.
No one knows where luck comes from and from whom, basically we just do what we can do and then maybe involve others so that we are lucky about winning or losing. So yeah, as long as they don't harm other people because of different beliefs I guess they are free to do it about praying or not in gambling, because we're just going to keep trying to do our best and about the outcome it can be good and bad and it's not always the same.
There is not such a thing as luck, there are only probabilities, when people have a good time at the casino and they earn some money they think of it as getting lucky, but this is false, this is just one of the almost infinite ways of how that particular day could have ended for them and it just happened to be one that was beneficial for them, but probabilities dictate that this is not going to be very common and people knowing this, at least instinctively, and they try to change this by praying for divine intervention.
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June 17, 2021, 06:21:14 PM
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Cool! How many bets may it takes if we also includes those gods from every small religion that exist? but all in all
it's human behaviors that affects this beliefs.

Even you take it all and pray there's no assurance that the results of your gambling may changed uo and favor you,
still luck and good bankroll managements that will lead you to win.
Indeed, I have placed a bet before and I tried to pray but it didn't change the favor to me and it doesn't mean that I can't win. Bankroll management and luck is what most people need. If you win and lose less then it is your lucky day and it won't change to unlucky day when you have full control of your urge to gamble.

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June 17, 2021, 07:06:37 PM
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Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won Cheesy


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June 17, 2021, 08:40:40 PM
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Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won Cheesy
This is real!

When the time they hit up millions specially on lotteries then those kind of prayers would definitely be forgotten and some do even promise to make out some charitable works if they won but when it happened then those would be forgotten and they would prioritize on whats do they have in mind.

People would forgot God already when they got millions but honestly its not really that appropriate on tagging out divine intervention into your gambling
activity because luck cant really be influenced by any factors.


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June 17, 2021, 09:51:10 PM
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Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won Cheesy
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When the time they hit up millions specially on lotteries then those kind of prayers would definitely be forgotten and some do even promise to make out some charitable works if they won but when it happened then those would be forgotten and they would prioritize on whats do they have in mind.

People would forgot God already when they got millions but honestly its not really that appropriate on tagging out divine intervention into your gambling
activity because luck cant really be influenced by any factors.


They would forget everything and they would buy on things that they had wished and all the stuffs that they are longing to buy.
They wouldnt care about those promises that they had made when they are just still betting and make out some promises.
I have see several people who had been like this not on a lottery winner but on a simple gambling winnings where promising on making
charitable works and after that then t hey do forget but most of the time they cant do such thing because they do lost it all.

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June 18, 2021, 06:57:23 AM
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Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won Cheesy
This is real!

When the time they hit up millions specially on lotteries then those kind of prayers would definitely be forgotten and some do even promise to make out some charitable works if they won but when it happened then those would be forgotten and they would prioritize on whats do they have in mind.

People would forgot God already when they got millions but honestly its not really that appropriate on tagging out divine intervention into your gambling
activity because luck cant really be influenced by any factors.


They would forget everything and they would buy on things that they had wished and all the stuffs that they are longing to buy.
They wouldnt care about those promises that they had made when they are just still betting and make out some promises.
I have see several people who had been like this not on a lottery winner but on a simple gambling winnings where promising on making
charitable works and after that then t hey do forget but most of the time they cant do such thing because they do lost it all.
some local lotteries are a part of a movement where they help charities for every bet a bettor makes .
why cant they bet on it . win or loose they are helping someone and they dont need to worry even if they forgot their promise of helping a charity  .
god knows if who is sincere and will make its promise and for the people that won and forget god , god will make a way to punish that winner .
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June 18, 2021, 07:08:01 AM
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win or loose they are helping someone and they dont need to worry even if they forgot their promise of helping a charity
Instead of going through lottery system for helping charity, why not a gambler just go for helping directly to the needy people? Honestly I never believe into such things like a gambling house is donating something for charity and only from the remaining amounts, they are running their business. In my opinion people who are really having helping tendency, they will never advertise them for the cause of developing their business.

on a simple gambling winnings where promising on making charitable works and after that then t hey do forget but most of the time they cant do such thing because they do lost it all.
By knowing the final outcome in advance, it seems they are making such promises. The moral we need to learn here is, we should never make any promises based on the future profits of gambling because there is nothing like that in reality Wink.

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June 18, 2021, 08:17:41 AM
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Praying has nothing to do with our bets. We pray for our wants, but that does it mean we can already get what we want when we pray especially if it is about gambling. For me, we have the same God. It just depends on your beliefs but we have one God. I already experience praying before betting, like 'please make me win this time but not all the time it is granted because we are the ones who make our fate.
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Believing that you will win is what encourages you to gamble so it must be worth praying. I've seen a lot of people secretly praying they will earn big not just in gambling. If you observe some religious boxers going to do sign of the cross like they are about to give it all for the fight, it gives them the courage to fight. It's no different to gambling, you will eventually win after few spins but you got to learn when to stop too.


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June 18, 2021, 08:44:54 AM
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win or loose they are helping someone and they dont need to worry even if they forgot their promise of helping a charity
Instead of going through lottery system for helping charity, why not a gambler just go for helping directly to the needy people? Honestly I never believe into such things like a gambling house is donating something for charity and only from the remaining amounts, they are running their business. In my opinion people who are really having helping tendency, they will never advertise them for the cause of developing their business.
this is better to do too if you are in doubt of that movement and you can personaly pick your beneficiary . the reason why i believe them is they are government based,  long time running , have been telecast in the tv's and i can see the testimonies of the people that they help  .
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June 18, 2021, 09:20:33 AM
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Of course, gambling is more fun when you gain (win), but I'm not really sure if God will care if you win or lose at the casino, because basically in gambling luck is the determinant of your own destiny, Many religious people will say that gambling is a sin, but why do people keep doing it? surely some people will answer to have fun and enjoy life and some others make gambling their profession, so there is nothing wrong with asking God for a little help by praying for luck at the casino, regardless of whether your prayers are accepted or not, of course it all depends on your own intentions.

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Believing that you will win is what encourages you to gamble so it must be worth praying. I've seen a lot of people secretly praying they will earn big not just in gambling. If you observe some religious boxers going to do sign of the cross like they are about to give it all for the fight, it gives them the courage to fight. It's no different to gambling, you will eventually win after few spins but you got to learn when to stop too.
By the way, in many religions the topic of money, wealth, good and easy earnings is not considered something extremely necessary for a person.  In contrast, for example, the health of the person himself and his relatives and friends.  So it is not yet known how the higher beings relate to such prayers with a request to get rich from the gain.
Maybe it is the higher powers that learn from prayer that a person is wicked, for example, he already won some time ago, and vice versa, they will do it so that he does not win again. 
Nobody will ever know what the higher powers think, and we can only guess and then find out what happened.....

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June 18, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
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I think mostly people who pray before betting or gambling a certain game is like believing some higher being above us all listens and hopefully side with them when they talk to Him. It keeps the peoples faith too. And there is nothing wrong with praying even if you are betting or gambling, in my opinion it all boils down to your prayer if it is heartily being delivered or addressed to God. But you know, to each his own. I know a few people praying and making the sign of the cross before they bet on something like cockfighting or even betting a boxers game, for example a Manny Pacquiao’s fight.
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June 18, 2021, 10:29:20 AM
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I think mostly people who pray before betting or gambling a certain game is like believing some higher being above us all listens and hopefully side with them when they talk to Him. It keeps the peoples faith too. And there is nothing wrong with praying even if you are betting or gambling, in my opinion it all boils down to your prayer if it is heartily being delivered or addressed to God. But you know, to each his own. I know a few people praying and making the sign of the cross before they bet on something like cockfighting or even betting a boxers game, for example a Manny Pacquiao’s fight.
That's what those people who prays they are asking for some guidance or asking that luck may side with them. I agree there's nothing wrong believing in it but I guess it will all depend on what purpose you're asking it, just my two cents as I'm not that of a believer on a faith of prayer while gambling.
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June 18, 2021, 10:43:42 AM
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Praying has nothing to do with our bets. We pray for our wants, but that does it mean we can already get what we want when we pray especially if it is about gambling. For me, we have the same God. It just depends on your beliefs but we have one God. I already experience praying before betting, like 'please make me win this time but not all the time it is granted because we are the ones who make our fate.
You can say that but for some people, they will pray before they gamble because that can increase their confidence in playing gambling. They consider that after they pray, their luck will come to them to win the games. But that will not always happen like that because no matter what we say, we will not win the game if we do not have luck in gambling. So human is unique because they still pray to GOD to play gambling, which is prohibited in their religion.

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June 18, 2021, 10:46:24 AM
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Believing that you will win is what encourages you to gamble so it must be worth praying. I've seen a lot of people secretly praying they will earn big not just in gambling. If you observe some religious boxers going to do sign of the cross like they are about to give it all for the fight, it gives them the courage to fight. It's no different to gambling, you will eventually win after few spins but you got to learn when to stop too.
^ Definitely right but it does not mean this will give a guarantee that you will win, but I believe if a gambler that has courage and confidence in himself will most likely boost the chances that the gambler will win. I don't want to combine gambling and prayer because for me they are not related to each other, many religious groups believe that gambling is a sin but I think every one of us has a preferred belief that we think will give us luck while gambling. So there is nothing to argue, just respect what each of us believes and continues to gamble as what we want. Because sometimes in that point when we were faced heavy losses might we blame that above that we believe.
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