[CONMEBOL] Copa America 2021 [Argentina The Champions]

[hahay]

Venezuela - Ecuador
If I look at the odds at the moment Ecuador is the favorite and I think that's probably the right thing, considering from the two games the fact that Venezuela has still not scored. But if I consider the previous result where Venezuela was able to draw with Colombia, then it looks like this match will be tough too. That way, I bet Under 2.5 goals @1.59 because maybe the match will end in a draw or Ecuador will win by a narrow margin.

[mv1986]

So far, Brazil is the strongest team at the moment. they swept away the victory. I think they only need 1 victory to step away to the next round. Neymar playing well, he had the top score with 2 goals and create 1 assist to goal. I hope he creates any goal when playing versus Colombia on Thursday. in another side, lionel Messi plays alone in Argentina, I don't see another 10 players, different when I see him in Barcelona.

I didn't watched any of the matches live, but watched the highlights (the timing is a bit odd, for Indians). I would say that Brazil looks far ahead of all the other teams in terms of quality. They have widened the gap with Argentina and teams such as Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile.

Now I have a question related to Argentina. As we all know, Messi is not getting enough support from his team mates. Could the situation have been any different, if Paulo Dybala was not excluded from the Argentine squad? I would say that if he was there, then Messi could have got at least some support. When Dybala was omitted from the squad, the excuse being given was that he was not fit enough. But I can see him playing club football. And his so called replacement (Rodrigo De Paul) has failed big time.

I do like Paulo Dybala, but sometimes it feels like he is too inconsistent. One game a genius, the other game not so much. But still I think he belongs into the team. Keep in mind though that as far I recall correctly they already did play together for Argentina for quite a while and didn't win anything either. The team always suffered from its imbalance between the strong offense and the weak defense. They were never fully able to resolve that issue. At the end luck is also a factor if you look back at the world cup final in 2014. Argentina could have won that final as likely as Germany. The game was absolutely 50:50. Had Argentina won it, nobody would still be discussing how Messi failed to win something big. That's how sports work, nobody remembers the vice champions.

[john_nautica]

So far, Brazil is the strongest team at the moment. they swept away the victory. I think they only need 1 victory to step away to the next round. Neymar playing well, he had the top score with 2 goals and create 1 assist to goal. I hope he creates any goal when playing versus Colombia on Thursday. in another side, lionel Messi plays alone in Argentina, I don't see another 10 players, different when I see him in Barcelona.

I didn't watched any of the matches live, but watched the highlights (the timing is a bit odd, for Indians). I would say that Brazil looks far ahead of all the other teams in terms of quality. They have widened the gap with Argentina and teams such as Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile.

Now I have a question related to Argentina. As we all know, Messi is not getting enough support from his team mates. Could the situation have been any different, if Paulo Dybala was not excluded from the Argentine squad? I would say that if he was there, then Messi could have got at least some support. When Dybala was omitted from the squad, the excuse being given was that he was not fit enough. But I can see him playing club football. And his so called replacement (Rodrigo De Paul) has failed big time.

I do like Paulo Dybala, but sometimes it feels like he is too inconsistent. One game a genius, the other game not so much. But still I think he belongs into the team. Keep in mind though that as far I recall correctly they already did play together for Argentina for quite a while and didn't win anything either. The team always suffered from its imbalance between the strong offense and the weak defense. They were never fully able to resolve that issue. At the end luck is also a factor if you look back at the world cup final in 2014. Argentina could have won that final as likely as Germany. The game was absolutely 50:50. Had Argentina won it, nobody would still be discussing how Messi failed to win something big. That's how sports work, nobody remembers the vice champions.

Argentina has a very strong squad. I even think on paper equivalent to France. But in practice, France has done things better. If you looked at the players individually, it would be close together. And we're not just talking about Messi. Still, I don't think Argentina will become world champions in the next 10 years. certainly also because Messi will have retired by then.
Brazil will have a decent chance to win.

[blue Snow]

Now I have a question related to Argentina. As we all know, Messi is not getting enough support from his team mates. Could the situation have been any different, if Paulo Dybala was not excluded from the Argentine squad?

Not really, Dybala is in a forwarding position, I think if La Joya on the squad, he will fight for the ball with Messi. Argentine needs a midfielder who has supplied to Messi may be better if Lionel Scaloni places Dimaria on the squad.

Venezuela - Ecuador

At the moment Ecuador had lost vs Colombia, but Venezuela isn't on the full squad because of covid-19. average bet to Ecuador 1-0.

I do like Paulo Dybala, but sometimes it feels like he is too inconsistent. One game a genius, the other game not so much.

because of injury and rarely play in Juventus, it could make he be inconsistent. it will also decrease his performance.

[snipie]

Venezuela - Ecuador
If I look at the odds at the moment Ecuador is the favorite and I think that's probably the right thing, considering from the two games the fact that Venezuela has still not scored. But if I consider the previous result where Venezuela was able to draw with Colombia, then it looks like this match will be tough too. That way, I bet Under 2.5 goals @1.59 because maybe the match will end in a draw or Ecuador will win by a narrow margin.

I will stay away from this game although I believe Ecuador will win it. A very hazardous game for me that might end with a disappointment, without taking on consideration covid absentees...

[Sterbens]

Venezuela - Ecuador
If I look at the odds at the moment Ecuador is the favorite and I think that's probably the right thing, considering from the two games the fact that Venezuela has still not scored. But if I consider the previous result where Venezuela was able to draw with Colombia, then it looks like this match will be tough too. That way, I bet Under 2.5 goals @1.59 because maybe the match will end in a draw or Ecuador will win by a narrow margin.

yesterday I tried to access this site and there is indeed a problem with the domain. then i tried it today at first it was accessible but when i went to the site's auto bet page it came back like an error occurred.
can you explain how this keeps happening, i think my internet network is not good. don't tell me if the Domain is just a domain that you rent for a month until the game is over or will it continue?

[KTChampions]

I will stay away from this game although I believe Ecuador will win it. A very hazardous game for me that might end with a disappointment, without taking on consideration covid absentees...

I agree with you, with all due respect to these teams, their level is very low and here the result is too random to risk your money. It seems to me that more or less reliable bets will appear from the playoff stage. At the moment, it is best to follow the teams in order to understand their capabilities and wait for good matches.

[mv1986]

So far, Brazil is the strongest team at the moment. they swept away the victory. I think they only need 1 victory to step away to the next round. Neymar playing well, he had the top score with 2 goals and create 1 assist to goal. I hope he creates any goal when playing versus Colombia on Thursday. in another side, lionel Messi plays alone in Argentina, I don't see another 10 players, different when I see him in Barcelona.

I didn't watched any of the matches live, but watched the highlights (the timing is a bit odd, for Indians). I would say that Brazil looks far ahead of all the other teams in terms of quality. They have widened the gap with Argentina and teams such as Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile.

Now I have a question related to Argentina. As we all know, Messi is not getting enough support from his team mates. Could the situation have been any different, if Paulo Dybala was not excluded from the Argentine squad? I would say that if he was there, then Messi could have got at least some support. When Dybala was omitted from the squad, the excuse being given was that he was not fit enough. But I can see him playing club football. And his so called replacement (Rodrigo De Paul) has failed big time.

I do like Paulo Dybala, but sometimes it feels like he is too inconsistent. One game a genius, the other game not so much. But still I think he belongs into the team. Keep in mind though that as far I recall correctly they already did play together for Argentina for quite a while and didn't win anything either. The team always suffered from its imbalance between the strong offense and the weak defense. They were never fully able to resolve that issue. At the end luck is also a factor if you look back at the world cup final in 2014. Argentina could have won that final as likely as Germany. The game was absolutely 50:50. Had Argentina won it, nobody would still be discussing how Messi failed to win something big. That's how sports work, nobody remembers the vice champions.

Argentina has a very strong squad. I even think on paper equivalent to France. But in practice, France has done things better. If you looked at the players individually, it would be close together. And we're not just talking about Messi. Still, I don't think Argentina will become world champions in the next 10 years. certainly also because Messi will have retired by then.
Brazil will have a decent chance to win.

For some reason I agree with you. It is like Argentina is damned to not win something big. I don't know, I think they have also been unlucky in the important moments. They had two finals in the Copa America and the World Championship final, but to be honest it can happen to lose a dozen of finals. In Tennis it is even harder. Not sure who it was, but I think some guy played 5 or 6 major finals and lost them all before winning one, maybe Murray? I don't think it's their quality as a player or team, but just a mix of unlucky circumstances and dwindling confidence. If you reach the final so often, you are definitely good enough to also win it once. Let's see how Argentina does this year in the Copa.

[Rabi3]

I will stay away from this game although I believe Ecuador will win it. A very hazardous game for me that might end with a disappointment, without taking on consideration covid absentees...

I agree with you, with all due respect to these teams, their level is very low and here the result is too random to risk your money. It seems to me that more or less reliable bets will appear from the playoff stage. At the moment, it is best to follow the teams in order to understand their capabilities and wait for good matches.

i already said that i always try avoiding the first matches especially on group stages since not all matches are important, so i agree with you, group stages is like a view on what could happen in the playoffs, it's better if we keep watching and studying teams performances and then bet on the playoffs.

[KTChampions]

Hahahahaha
Venezuela - Ecuador 2 - 2 !!!
And the goal thanks to which Venezuela achieved a draw was scored in the second added minute.
It hurts me to imagine the emotions of those people who made a bet and failed at the last moment. As I wrote above, it is better to avoid bets on such matches, the results are too wide for adequate betting.

i already said that i always try avoiding the first matches especially on group stages since not all matches are important, so i agree with you, group stages is like a view on what could happen in the playoffs, it's better if we keep watching and studying teams performances and then bet on the playoffs.

This is the specifics of the Copa America, in the European Championship, for example, matches in groups are mostly predictable and teams rarely surprise.

[blue Snow]

Venezuela - Ecuador

yesterday I tried to access this site and there is indeed a problem with the domain.

I don't know what your problem here, which domain do you mean? I can't find the website you had talking about.
Ecuador has much a ball position but can't take a chance to create the goal. they can't take also the winning 1-2 and can't even handle the counterattack of Venezuela at the last minute. Ecuador deserved to win but their defense was a bit undisciplined, 2-2 in the last minutes make them regret it.

[slaman29]

Two surprise results again in Copa, Peru beat their fancied opponents while Venezuela came from behind to earn a draw. Good thing haven't been betting on them just so much more unpredictable these SAmerican teams especially when can't watch them not even sure how they're playing, how to be betting:)

@ Rabi3 and KTChampions yes, I agree predictable results actually happen in group stages in EURO but this isn't always the case, varies from season to season.

[KTChampions]

Two surprise results again in Copa, Peru beat their fancied opponents while Venezuela came from behind to earn a draw. Good thing haven't been betting on them just so much more unpredictable these SAmerican teams especially when can't watch them not even sure how they're playing, how to be betting:)

@ Rabi3 and KTChampions yes, I agree predictable results actually happen in group stages in EURO but this isn't always the case, varies from season to season.

The randomness of the Copa America results is a historical fact, most likely due to the mentality of the Latin American teams. And in fact, this randomness is present at all stages of the tournament. If we take the last 4 championships, then two super favorites (Brazil and Argentina), which should have taken 80% of all first places, then it turns out that only one cup has been won.

[blue Snow]

Two surprise results again in Copa, Peru beat their fancied opponents

Peru won for the first time after got big lost versus brazil, this makes them confirmed to stay in the 3rd position. if they were still consistent, probably will crossing Columbia in the 2nd place. I hope Yerry Mina still safe and healthy, I just remember in world cup 1994 (USA) when Colombia's defender (Escobar) accidentally creates his own goal, then the gangster blindly kills him. I hope it doesn't happen again.

[alegotardo]

The randomness of the Copa America results is a historical fact, most likely due to the mentality of the Latin American teams. And in fact, this randomness is present at all stages of the tournament. If we take the last 4 championships, then two super favorites (Brazil and Argentina), which should have taken 80% of all first places, then it turns out that only one cup has been won.

Exactly, what you said is something frequent here... despite being Brazilian, I like to bet a lot more on European championships.
Teams with much greater potential in relation to the opponent have a very poor performance on the field, especially in the group stages.

I generally refrain from betting around here before the quarterfinals, I recommend that you do the same.

[snipie]

Two surprise results again in Copa, Peru beat their fancied opponents while Venezuela came from behind to earn a draw. Good thing haven't been betting on them just so much more unpredictable these SAmerican teams especially when can't watch them not even sure how they're playing, how to be betting:)

@ Rabi3 and KTChampions yes, I agree predictable results actually happen in group stages in EURO but this isn't always the case, varies from season to season.

Yeah apart from the difficulty of watching the whole game and taking a look on highlights, the randomness of the play style of some teams and the inconsistency of others made Copa America very different than EURO as mentioned by the boys!
I felt that Venezuela and Ecuador will end with disappointment, which was the case, maybe the worst scenario I would call
Peru winning vs Colombia, dunno what should I say. I remember odds for Peru were above 6? Incredible!

[Saint-loup]

Two surprise results again in Copa, Peru beat their fancied opponents while Venezuela came from behind to earn a draw. Good thing haven't been betting on them just so much more unpredictable these SAmerican teams especially when can't watch them not even sure how they're playing, how to be betting:)

@ Rabi3 and KTChampions yes, I agree predictable results actually happen in group stages in EURO but this isn't always the case, varies from season to season.

Yeah apart from the difficulty of watching the whole game and taking a look on highlights, the randomness of the play style of some teams and the inconsistency of others made Copa America very different than EURO as mentioned by the boys!
I felt that Venezuela and Ecuador will end with disappointment, which was the case, maybe the worst scenario I would call
Peru winning vs Colombia, dunno what should I say. I remember odds for Peru were above 6? Incredible!

There is no difficulty for watching them, live streams of all matches of the Copa America are available on Stake. I recommend you to try Stake to place your bets on the Copa America, there are some very interesting promotions : if the team you bet on scores in the first 15 minutes your bet is paid out as a winning bet even if your team loses at the end. Besides that odds were @5.80 precisely... when I placed my bet on Peru last week

[blue Snow]

the result today,
Uruguay vs Chile: 1-1
Argentina vs Pataguay : 1 - 0
Suarez makes it draw in minutes 69, Vargas creates a goal in minute 27 to make him be the top score together with Romero (Paraguay). this result makes Chile be in 2nd place, it could have a chance to playing in the next round. while Argentina still playing an impressive game where Messi as the contributor team.

[slaman29]

The randomness of the Copa America results is a historical fact, most likely due to the mentality of the Latin American teams. And in fact, this randomness is present at all stages of the tournament. If we take the last 4 championships, then two super favorites (Brazil and Argentina), which should have taken 80% of all first places, then it turns out that only one cup has been won.

Ah I see, I did not know about history I always thought the winners were quite predictable: Brazil mainly for the past 20 years, though Chile back to back also. And Argentina not since I can't remember when I saw on a docu but many Messi finals. But I guess with such few teams and everyone playing to their best with such huge changes and tactics, I think if more people watched they would be interested (we in Asia actually love the South American style too).

@Saint-loup It is not about finding a stream, it is difficult for me to be AWAKE to watch the games as they happen around 5am to 8am my time which is just before I go to work, so that exact time I am either in the bus or train to work or at my office and if I watch, the cameras will see me and I will get fired;)

[onecall123]

the result today,
Uruguay vs Chile: 1-1
Argentina vs Pataguay : 1 - 0
Suarez makes it draw in minutes 69, Vargas creates a goal in minute 27 to make him be the top score together with Romero (Paraguay). this result makes Chile be in 2nd place, it could have a chance to playing in the next round. while Argentina still playing an impressive game where Messi as the contributor team.

Finally, Uruguay received their first point of the 2021 Copa America as match drawn between Uruguay vs Chile. Argentina playing amazing up until this point, and completing first position while Leo Messi is legitimately massive. Certainly he will outperform him in the following match and I strongly trust he wins the trophy this time.