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June 25, 2021, 10:58:07 PM
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Money is treasure, and gold is treasure.  So money is actually neutral.  However, because it is used by people who have a high sense of obsession and greed, it could have a bad impact.  The poor and the rich should not measure it only in terms of material things.  Because they may become poor because of their own choices and become rich because of their fate.
Human greed is where the main issue is because everything would really be needed for us to live but there are people who do really aim for more for other reasons that they do have in mind which i can say to be naturally be part of human nature on asking out for more even they had already enough but well we do know on this reality that theres no such thing about being enough as long you do able to accumulate or save up money then you would basically
be doing it because the more the better kind of mindset we do have.It is just on how people been treating up their money because not all would be having the same aims in mind.
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June 25, 2021, 11:51:52 PM
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It's just a normal slang by the average and low life individuals. If they said money cannot buy happiness, I want all the money in this life should be giving to me. I know how to  channel such money into something that will bring huge happiness towards me.
Cycle of poor people aren't supposed to be, we are meant to be mixed together  share knowledge and not stay in the lowly life style with lower thinking capacity.
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June 26, 2021, 04:35:08 AM
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When there say money is the root of all evil doesn't really means that money is evil and won't be used or touched because same Bible still told us money answereth all things, so i think it's just an idiom which simply tells us how people is ready to do so many dirty things in order to make money which is very bad, in our world today people cheat, kill, lie and do all sort of bad things in other to make money this is why there is a saying that money is the root of all evil but that doesn't mean money won't be made because it's evil.

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June 26, 2021, 06:29:34 AM
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Money isn't the root of all evil. It's the LOVE of money that's the root of all evil. At least, that's how it's captured biblically in 1 Timothy 6:10


One major question that always borders me is "are we created with different mindset at birth and what role does environmental factors have to place on mindset of an individual".
No, we aren't created with a mindset apart from that which is inmate in us like ability to be hungry and cry for food. Apart from that, nothing else. It's said that the human mind is a tabular rasa (empty, without words on it) a blank slate sort of until something begins to be written on it.

Ubong King said "what you see determine the level of your achievement. The rich man orientation differs from the poor man orientation because While the rich man is thinking about wealth creation and self dependence
The quoted king is absolutely right. Experience has taught me that too.

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June 26, 2021, 06:29:34 PM
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Money is treasure, and gold is treasure.  So money is actually neutral.  However, because it is used by people who have a high sense of obsession and greed, it could have a bad impact.  The poor and the rich should not measure it only in terms of material things.  Because they may become poor because of their own choices and become rich because of their fate.
Human greed is where the main issue is because everything would really be needed for us to live but there are people who do really aim for more for other reasons that they do have in mind which i can say to be naturally be part of human nature on asking out for more even they had already enough but well we do know on this reality that theres no such thing about being enough as long you do able to accumulate or save up money then you would basically
be doing it because the more the better kind of mindset we do have.It is just on how people been treating up their money because not all would be having the same aims in mind.
Indeed, money cannot actively create opinions and express its nature, it is only a broker between us and the rest of the material for our lives, if we had stayed neutral and didn't ask for too much, money wouldn't have been the catalyst for our sins, rich people would rarely think about it when money is working as their employee while with poor people, money becomes a big boss and when the boss wants us to break the law, employees who can only shut up and obey before being fired

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July 01, 2021, 11:22:32 AM
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The mindset predetermines personal future.
As for me, I think that the phrase 'money is the root of all evil' is an excuse for remaining lazy and poor. This phrase is actually extremely old and cane from the feudalism when the peasants were convinced about negative effect of the money in order not to think about it and keep on working the land for the feudal free of charge. Nowadays, this saying has become a motto for the poor. It is hard to admit that you just simply cannot make money because of your skills or educational background or laziness, it is much cooler to pretend that you have some philosophy behind the fact that you eat cheap food and cannot pay the rent for the apartments you live in.
I am not really a fan of Robert Kiyosaki but I liked his phrase which actually transformed my mindset: 'Don't ask yourself whether you can afford this or that thing, ask yourself how you can afford it'. This phrase makes it all different. It pushes you to do something in order to achieve a certain goal while 'I cannot afford it' just states the fact that you put up with. The same thing is about 'Money makes people worse' concept: by saying this phrase, you put up with the poverty you live in and it doesn't motivate you to become better and skillful in order to buy something.
That is why, if someone wants to be rich, he/she should first of all invest in themselves in order to get rid of poor philosophy and start making money.
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July 03, 2021, 03:25:52 AM
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Money is essential, it makes the world go round. Perhaps it is the root of all evil but it depends on the one who is handling it. if it will be used for good or bad, if it will help others or not. Many say that if you have lots of money you'll have many friends. but once you do not have money, one by one they will leave and forget you. We must make use of our money do not let it to be the root of all evil. God gave us skills and talents to use it for good and do good for others. People must not be greedy.

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July 03, 2021, 07:40:09 PM
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Money is essential, it makes the world go round. Perhaps it is the root of all evil but it depends on the one who is handling it. if it will be used for good or bad, if it will help others or not. Many say that if you have lots of money you'll have many friends. but once you do not have money, one by one they will leave and forget you. We must make use of our money do not let it to be the root of all evil. God gave us skills and talents to use it for good and do good for others. People must not be greedy.
You are 100% right. It is not about money, it is like saying guns kill people, well technically you are right but you can use a gun as a book holder too if you want to, wouldn't make sense but you can, or there are good people killing someone who is about to do something bad, in a case of one person shooting everyone around, wouldn't you want someone else with a gun to stop them? So long story short money is just the tool that people use, you can use it to make great stuff or you can use it to do horrible stuff there is absolutely nothing wrong with money itself, it is about who get the money.

However one thing that is problematic in the money world is that anyone who has a lot of it, and I do not mean a lot as in a doctor who is successful, I mean literally having a yacth that has a smaller yacht in it with helipad on top type of richness, those people usually earn it in bad manners, that is a bit of a problem I am afraid.
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July 04, 2021, 04:15:46 PM
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It is often said that the biggest difference between the rich and the poor has it origin from the mindset.
One major question that always borders me is "are we created with different mindset at birth and what role does environmental factors have to place on mindset of an individual".
Ubong King said "what you see determine the level of your achievement. The rich man orientation differs from the poor man orientation because While the rich man is thinking about wealth creation and self dependence, the poor is busy thinking how evil money is with the notion that money is the root of all evil hence they prefer to be poor than miss the Kingdom of God forgetting that our heavenly father who is rich expect us to take after him. Consider this,
"IS MONEY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL?"
Money is a lot of things. The answer you seek is relative.
If you are referencing your statement to the Bible, the line would "the love of money is the root of all evil". Emphasis on the love not the object itself. You should know the holy book is a template open to interpretation. Words paint a image in our mind and convey information. A picture they say is worth a thousand words. Ask a dozen people the same question and you'd get a dozen different answers. Whatever your experience is that is your truth
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July 04, 2021, 04:21:02 PM
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Money is essential, it makes the world go round. Perhaps it is the root of all evil but it depends on the one who is handling it. if it will be used for good or bad, if it will help others or not. Many say that if you have lots of money you'll have many friends. but once you do not have money, one by one they will leave and forget you. We must make use of our money do not let it to be the root of all evil. God gave us skills and talents to use it for good and do good for others. People must not be greedy.

From that perceptions, it's rue that it will depend from how the person looks with his money,

it's not an evil act if you use your money to help others and you do charities and express your

kindness using those money that you have, but, in the other way around, this same money

can work differently, evil things are also possible for peole that being move by their wealth.
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July 07, 2021, 07:42:07 AM
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This is actually a test of human nature. Does money make people "evil"? There are actually two aspects. Some people are rich and like to eat, drink and have fun. Some people are rich, work hard, and lead a better life. When there is no money, kind people will make money through normal channels anyway.  People with evil ideas may make money quickly outside the law. Everyone likes money and wants to get money, but it depends on how to get it.he important thing is to look at the inner thoughts。
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July 07, 2021, 08:37:04 AM
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Those who will praise money and greed, they will certainly be making evil thing in order to get what they want. Rich people could have such capabilities and they will easily manipulate the mind of poor people to follow them. Poor people have their choice but because they needed money, they simply ignore it and let evil things succeed.

It is too difficult to stop this because they will find a way no matter what it takes and they are now taking advantage of the existence of crypto.
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July 07, 2021, 08:51:24 AM
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Money is essential, it makes the world go round. Perhaps it is the root of all evil but it depends on the one who is handling it. if it will be used for good or bad, if it will help others or not. Many say that if you have lots of money you'll have many friends. but once you do not have money, one by one they will leave and forget you. We must make use of our money do not let it to be the root of all evil. God gave us skills and talents to use it for good and do good for others. People must not be greedy.
What you are trying to say is that money isn't the root of all evil, it's the people who use it. We need money not because it makes the world go round, we need money because the people that wants to control the many made it look like that, plus humans naturally want to be rewarded for their deeds and we want to be rewarded in some way.

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July 07, 2021, 08:52:00 AM
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It is often said that the biggest difference between the rich and the poor has it origin from the mindset.
One major question that always borders me is "are we created with different mindset at birth and what role does environmental factors have to place on mindset of an individual".
Ubong King said "what you see determine the level of your achievement. The rich man orientation differs from the poor man orientation because While the rich man is thinking about wealth creation and self dependence, the poor is busy thinking how evil money is with the notion that money is the root of all evil hence they prefer to be poor than miss the Kingdom of God forgetting that our heavenly father who is rich expect us to take after him. Consider this,
"IS MONEY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL?"


No

But it depends how the money is created.

Money that is printed out of thin air and then they ask interest for it. Yes! that's the very root of all evil because just like musical chairs, there is not enough money in the system to pay back the debt. For this reason, there will always be a large group that can not get their hands on money.

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July 07, 2021, 08:53:16 AM
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Bitcoin on the other hand, like gold, is found into existence with no interest and it does not need to go back to the ground or bitcoin can not be unmined. It just circulates or gets stored.

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July 07, 2021, 09:36:12 AM
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I think the source of all evil includes money. But I think desire is the most important factor. For example, the rich may not be a good person, or they may not have a good behavior. The same goes for the poor. It depends on your inner desire.
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July 07, 2021, 09:54:38 AM
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 Maybe not at all cause I've observed in some poor in there that living in the high way maybe they just suffered and living Vulnerable scenario cause they know already that they live in a risk place but besides there's status their hard work and perspective that they can eat 2 times or 1 time in a day are still remains and they never think and evil deeds.
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July 09, 2021, 06:54:48 PM
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Maybe not at all cause I've observed in some poor in there that living in the high way maybe they just suffered and living Vulnerable scenario cause they know already that they live in a risk place but besides there's status their hard work and perspective that they can eat 2 times or 1 time in a day are still remains and they never think and evil deeds.
The reality is that humanity is evil, and for some reason people do not see that, the more power you give someone the more evil they usually become. Of course there are exceptions to this, of course there are people who are not evil, even if they get a lot of money, but most of the time there are evil all around the world. Sometimes it is evil like Chinese dictator killing Muslims because he can level of horrible evil, but sometimes "I avoided tax because others too and this caused poor in my nation to be even worse" level of evil.

It is cultural as well, in some nations doing small or even big evil things are seen as something okay, in other nations it seems horrible and looked down on, depends where you live. Trump for example came out and defended his 750 bucks tax return and others defended him too, do that in Germany and you would be considered crazy and a psychological evaluation would be done to you. So it is not about money, money just shows the evil inside of you to other people.
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July 09, 2021, 07:35:35 PM
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Maybe not at all cause I've observed in some poor in there that living in the high way maybe they just suffered and living Vulnerable scenario cause they know already that they live in a risk place but besides there's status their hard work and perspective that they can eat 2 times or 1 time in a day are still remains and they never think and evil deeds.
The reality is that humanity is evil, and for some reason people do not see that, the more power you give someone the more evil they usually become. Of course there are exceptions to this, of course there are people who are not evil, even if they get a lot of money, but most of the time there are evil all around the world. Sometimes it is evil like Chinese dictator killing Muslims because he can level of horrible evil, but sometimes "I avoided tax because others too and this caused poor in my nation to be even worse" level of evil.

It is cultural as well, in some nations doing small or even big evil things are seen as something okay, in other nations it seems horrible and looked down on, depends where you live. Trump for example came out and defended his 750 bucks tax return and others defended him too, do that in Germany and you would be considered crazy and a psychological evaluation would be done to you. So it is not about money, money just shows the evil inside of you to other people.
But there are things that what makes them evil but of course, own intentions would be the main culprit because money is just a thing and since it does have value then normally human beings would really be focusing on how to accumulate more money no matter what the cost or what are the ways even if they would be ending up on illegal. For people specially poor who had said that money is the root of evil?
Those are just simply a line to those who are jealous or envy into those people who does have money to spent or use on and thats just simply a line which is a bit obvious for me.
Money would be only the root of evil if you dont know on how to handle up yourself on making use of it on a proper way.
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July 10, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
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Man is cruel by nature. We dominate and destroy. Just take a look at our environment.  Money is only a tool and has no real power. The one who holds the power is the Man in possession of this tool(money). He has control and whatsoever he decides to do with the money is his choice.
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