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July 10, 2021, 10:57:55 PM
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I haven't found an article that reports that someone died after being injected with the vaccine, if there is, I think there are other factors that caused
the person to die after getting the vaccine. Because before the vaccine is distributed, it will be tested properly, so I have a little doubt that the vaccine
can cause someone to die. It is possible that people who have been injected with the vaccine only feel mild symptoms, and do not cause death.
Until now the injection of vaccines in several countries has proven effective, starting to control the spread of the virus, although it has not been able
to completely remove the virus.
There are actually reports that have been romanticized by the medias that after getting jabs, those people died. But they don't highlight what's the actual reason of it, like those adults that have taken the shot and then afterwards they got the side effect and eventually died.
Most vaccines are still in the trial phase but they've been assured that they're effective to fight against the covid-19 virus. And there's much better result with those countries that got most of their citizens vaccinated and this is what Poland is trying to do.
For sure the media wouldnt really tend to show it up to public in terms of those people who died because of vaccine side effects.Why? this would create panic and would really be

changing up someones mind on getting a shot and of course this would affect business as well because people would already be hesitant on getting vaccinated.

Having some lottery chance is a good initiative but wont really be enough to convince people.

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July 11, 2021, 03:29:34 AM
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Having some lottery chance is a good initiative but wont really be enough to convince people.

On point. At least they are giving a form of perks to those who really want to get vaccinated.

On the other hand, the lottery is also an advantage for those people that don't have a problem having a shot. It's like they are being rewarded for something that they really want.

Let those people who don't want to be vaccinated as it is. The government can't really do something about it and I understand those people. The mandatory vaccine should only be applied to those people who work in essential jobs such as healthcare, food industries, supermarket personnel, etc.

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July 11, 2021, 02:03:05 PM
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It is sad but this is the way it is, it was impossible to expect that this vaccine was going to be developed for 5 years before it was released to the population, this is why if some people oppose to get the vaccine I do not criticize them as the risks are real, this is why we hear stories of people dropping dead a few minutes after they got the vaccine as the vaccine has a higher risk than usual, but that being said as soon as I get the opportunity to get the vaccine I will get it.

If you believe in such stupidity, then you deserve whatever you get. Anyway, vaccines are in short supply and no one will force you to take them. If you refuse to take them, then more deserving people will get a chance to be vaccinated. I wonder from where did you got the stories of "people dropping dead in a few minutes"... please post the url here, as I want to go through the article. 3.39 billion doses of the vaccine has been administrated till now. If what you were saying was even remotely true, then the world population would have reduced by half till now.
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July 11, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
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It is sad but this is the way it is, it was impossible to expect that this vaccine was going to be developed for 5 years before it was released to the population, this is why if some people oppose to get the vaccine I do not criticize them as the risks are real, this is why we hear stories of people dropping dead a few minutes after they got the vaccine as the vaccine has a higher risk than usual, but that being said as soon as I get the opportunity to get the vaccine I will get it.

I have not read news of people dropping dead after they got a vaccine do you have an article for this, this is scary if this true, some people react negatively to a particular vaccine but not to the point that they are dropping dead, and if this is true the percentage is very low based on their study, so far the vaccination is a huge success even if the virus is mutating.

People are dropping dead all around the world every day after taking all kinds of medicines, it really needs to be put into perspective. In general, would you prefer to risk a medium chance of getting life changing injuries (such as major lung damage) or even death after catching a highly contagious virus that has killed tens of thousands around the world in a short space of time, or would you prefer a super tiny chance of dying by taking some preventative medicine that will stop such damage in its tracks and lower the chance you infect others? As we have seen from heavily vaccinated countries that used even the astrazeneca jab for large amounts of people, there were very few deaths and it was generally given to elderly people who have a tougher time dealing with any potentially bad side effects.

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July 11, 2021, 08:41:57 PM
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It is sad but this is the way it is, it was impossible to expect that this vaccine was going to be developed for 5 years before it was released to the population, this is why if some people oppose to get the vaccine I do not criticize them as the risks are real, this is why we hear stories of people dropping dead a few minutes after they got the vaccine as the vaccine has a higher risk than usual, but that being said as soon as I get the opportunity to get the vaccine I will get it.

I have not read news of people dropping dead after they got a vaccine do you have an article for this, this is scary if this true, some people react negatively to a particular vaccine but not to the point that they are dropping dead, and if this is true the percentage is very low based on their study, so far the vaccination is a huge success even if the virus is mutating.
There are people who drop dead after few days of the vaccine (of course drop dead is just an expression, people just die) and you can find it easily on google news, but after minutes of the vaccine it's a surprise for me. However I remember before covid became a pandemic, when it was just starting in Wuhan, China, there were lots of videos on social medias showing people literally dropping dead on the streets without apparent reason. By now I don't know if those videos were true, since no one talked about it anymore. Crazy and scaring videos.

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July 11, 2021, 11:14:02 PM
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I haven't found an article that reports that someone died after being injected with the vaccine, if there is, I think there are other factors that caused
the person to die after getting the vaccine. Because before the vaccine is distributed, it will be tested properly, so I have a little doubt that the vaccine
can cause someone to die. It is possible that people who have been injected with the vaccine only feel mild symptoms, and do not cause death.
Until now the injection of vaccines in several countries has proven effective, starting to control the spread of the virus, although it has not been able
to completely remove the virus.
There are actually reports that have been romanticized by the medias that after getting jabs, those people died. But they don't highlight what's the actual reason of it, like those adults that have taken the shot and then afterwards they got the side effect and eventually died.
Most vaccines are still in the trial phase but they've been assured that they're effective to fight against the covid-19 virus. And there's much better result with those countries that got most of their citizens vaccinated and this is what Poland is trying to do.
For sure the media wouldnt really tend to show it up to public in terms of those people who died because of vaccine side effects.Why? this would create panic and would really be

changing up someones mind on getting a shot and of course this would affect business as well because people would already be hesitant on getting vaccinated.

Having some lottery chance is a good initiative but wont really be enough to convince people.
They're showing how many have died but they're not showing how many got vaccinated and out of thousands to millions of people, only a very few got that bad effect. And what's worse is that those people got another symptom not from the vaccine but from their natural disease that has been there before they take the jabs. The lottery incentive won't convince all but at least there's the government that's encouraging everyone to get vaccinated and they all want to see everyone's life turn back to normal.

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July 11, 2021, 11:44:07 PM
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The lottery incentive won't convince all but at least there's the government that's encouraging everyone to get vaccinated and they all want to see everyone's life turn back to normal.

I also agree with it. Better than nothing.

I'm not blind that the vaccine also has a side effect or worst, resulted in some death as people have different immunity to it. But the numbers were only a few percentages of all the whole people that got vaccinated meaning the efficiency is great despite of it. And new released doses are safer to consume so I trust the vaccines whatever the brand is.

There is no such reward as a lottery here for vaccinated people so those people are lucky that their country is doing that kind of encouragement.
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July 12, 2021, 04:18:18 AM
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The lottery incentive won't convince all but at least there's the government that's encouraging everyone to get vaccinated and they all want to see everyone's life turn back to normal.

I also agree with it. Better than nothing.

I'm not blind that the vaccine also has a side effect or worst, resulted in some death as people have different immunity to it. But the numbers were only a few percentages of all the whole people that got vaccinated meaning the efficiency is great despite of it. And new released doses are safer to consume so I trust the vaccines whatever the brand is.

There is no such reward as a lottery here for vaccinated people so those people are lucky that their country is doing that kind of encouragement.

It is true that Pfizer has reported the highest proportion of adverse reaction among all the COVID 19 vaccines. But even for Pfizer, the numbers are not alarming. 39 people per million died after taking the Pfizer vaccine, and the vast majority of these deaths occurred due to reasons unrelated to the vaccination. And also, the study was mostly conducted among the elderly people (those aged 80 and above). The COVID related mortality in this age group is almost 20%. So you need to chose between a 20% chance of death from COVID 19, and less than 0.0039% of death from the vaccine.


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From a mathematical point of view, this is a very clear case for a rational decision making process  Grin

- Evaluate your chances of being seriously affected by covid.
- Evaluate your chances of getting a nasty secondary effect from the jabs (growing a third arm or getting a trombo).
- Evaluate your chances of winning that lottery.

If you are young, you might choose not to get the jab. If you are old, you most likely want to go for it. The funny thing is that the chances of winning the lottery only have a minimal effect so this is all marketing.

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The lottery incentive won't convince all but at least there's the government that's encouraging everyone to get vaccinated and they all want to see everyone's life turn back to normal.

I also agree with it. Better than nothing.

I'm not blind that the vaccine also has a side effect or worst, resulted in some death as people have different immunity to it. But the numbers were only a few percentages of all the whole people that got vaccinated meaning the efficiency is great despite of it. And new released doses are safer to consume so I trust the vaccines whatever the brand is.

There is no such reward as a lottery here for vaccinated people so those people are lucky that their country is doing that kind of encouragement.
Yes, compared to those that have taken the shot and felt good, there really were those few that didn't have good results as they take the vaccine. It's still not convincing for those that are waiting for the perfect vaccine to come but as long as there's the availability of the vaccine, anyone who's in that place should take it. Poland got this step and their citizens are in a good situation unless there's another situation that their citizens are dealing with just like those countries that got a lot of anti-vax folks.

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There are actually reports that have been romanticized by the medias that after getting jabs, those people died. But they don't highlight what's the actual reason of it, like those adults that have taken the shot and then afterwards they got the side effect and eventually died.
Most vaccines are still in the trial phase but they've been assured that they're effective to fight against the covid-19 virus. And there's much better result with those countries that got most of their citizens vaccinated and this is what Poland is trying to do.
For sure the media wouldnt really tend to show it up to public in terms of those people who died because of vaccine side effects.Why? this would create panic and would really be

changing up someones mind on getting a shot and of course this would affect business as well because people would already be hesitant on getting vaccinated.

Having some lottery chance is a good initiative but wont really be enough to convince people.

What you say does make sense, because if there are many articles that report the side effects of vaccines can result in death, this will make people
even more refusing to be injected with vaccines. For now, the best chance to prevent the spread of the virus is vaccination. So it is not surprising
that various countries are looking for ways to make their population willing to be injected with vaccines. What the Polish government has done
with lottery offers is a very good move and deserves appreciation. Hopefully other countries follow what the Polish government is doing, because
the lottery has proven to be able to attract many people. Although there are definitely people who are still not interested in being injected with
vaccines for various reasons. At least the state is trying to do something to reassure its citizens and that's a good thing.

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July 12, 2021, 11:39:17 PM
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The lottery incentive won't convince all but at least there's the government that's encouraging everyone to get vaccinated and they all want to see everyone's life turn back to normal.

I also agree with it. Better than nothing.

I'm not blind that the vaccine also has a side effect or worst, resulted in some death as people have different immunity to it. But the numbers were only a few percentages of all the whole people that got vaccinated meaning the efficiency is great despite of it. And new released doses are safer to consume so I trust the vaccines whatever the brand is.

There is no such reward as a lottery here for vaccinated people so those people are lucky that their country is doing that kind of encouragement.
Yes, compared to those that have taken the shot and felt good, there really were those few that didn't have good results as they take the vaccine. It's still not convincing for those that are waiting for the perfect vaccine to come but as long as there's the availability of the vaccine, anyone who's in that place should take it. Poland got this step and their citizens are in a good situation unless there's another situation that their citizens are dealing with just like those countries that got a lot of anti-vax folks.
One of the factors on why people get sick after taking a shot is totally depending on someones health or body condition.Some of my family members had taken a shot of covid vaccine and thats 3 of them.

One had some chills after a day of the vaccine and the other two havent noticed any effects but we know that side effects doesnt really instantly come out specially if severe ones and lets hope
that there would no such instances that might happen but we have seen that there are really people who died because of some side effects.

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July 12, 2021, 11:59:39 PM
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One of the factors on why people get sick after taking a shot is totally depending on someones health or body condition.

I also feel dizzy and got a fever for about a day after I have taken a vaccine shot but as recommended, I just take a Paracetamol. Several weeks have passed now, and I feel much better. I got vaccinated mandatorily because of the nature of my work. It really depends on the person's reaction to the vaccine so we can say there's a possibility that it might become worst for others but good to some.

As a perk, I've now entitled to some discounts and no problem anymore bringing a medical health certificate which is a burden for us who always travel outside the capital. No lottery perks here in my country so these people that have lottery perks are fortunate to have a chance to win decent bucks if they are too lucky enough to be picked.

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July 13, 2021, 03:48:49 AM
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Having some lottery chance is a good initiative but wont really be enough to convince people.

On point. At least they are giving a form of perks to those who really want to get vaccinated.

On the other hand, the lottery is also an advantage for those people that don't have a problem having a shot. It's like they are being rewarded for something that they really want.

Let those people who don't want to be vaccinated as it is. The government can't really do something about it and I understand those people. The mandatory vaccine should only be applied to those people who work in essential jobs such as healthcare, food industries, supermarket personnel, etc.

The most common reason why people do not get vaccinated is because they are afraid of the side effects and the fake news that circulates on social media.

As for me, having some sort of perks after getting a shot would be fantastic; yes, those who get vaccinated are rewarded, but it still won't persuade people to get vaccinated, and I believe I saw on our local news that they give some money to senior citizens after they get vaccinated so that others will follow.
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July 13, 2021, 03:54:21 AM
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That is a win win situation for Poland citizen. Here in our country people had to wait for their turn fpr free vaccines and no other perks like what they have in Poland. It is a good program to attract their citizen to be vaccinated. Some people are hesitant to take the vaccine since it is uncertain what could be its long term side effect. However, if it will save you from Covid it might be worth to take a shot.
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July 13, 2021, 04:36:41 AM
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In my City most of people are distancing from pfizer instead all are aiming for Moderna vaccine because of many claims that pfizer has this side effect that harder to tolerate .
But i believe in Europe it is this vaccine that only allows?



But having this opportunity to be part of lottery while saving your own life from virus is just a bonus because what ever happens it is our life will benefits from this.

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Having some lottery chance is a good initiative but wont really be enough to convince people.

On point. At least they are giving a form of perks to those who really want to get vaccinated.

On the other hand, the lottery is also an advantage for those people that don't have a problem having a shot. It's like they are being rewarded for something that they really want.

Let those people who don't want to be vaccinated as it is. The government can't really do something about it and I understand those people. The mandatory vaccine should only be applied to those people who work in essential jobs such as healthcare, food industries, supermarket personnel, etc.

The most common reason why people do not get vaccinated is because they are afraid of the side effects and the fake news that circulates on social media.

As for me, having some sort of perks after getting a shot would be fantastic; yes, those who get vaccinated are rewarded, but it still won't persuade people to get vaccinated, and I believe I saw on our local news that they give some money to senior citizens after they get vaccinated so that others will follow.
They read on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, or other local media sources saying about the side effect of being vaccinated.
Before they register to get vaccinated, they must make sure they are healthy and not have any disease because that means you will have a good immune that can protect you from the side effect.
But yes, every vaccine will have different side effects and people who got vaccinated will have a different impact.
The incentive can make them go to hospital and vaccinated, whether they are afraid or not, because that is one program from the government in this pandemic.
Maybe they need to consult with a doctor before vaccinated to convince them that the vaccine is safe for them.

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From a mathematical point of view, this is a very clear case for a rational decision making process  Grin

- Evaluate your chances of being seriously affected by covid.
- Evaluate your chances of getting a nasty secondary effect from the jabs (growing a third arm or getting a trombo).
- Evaluate your chances of winning that lottery.
Supporting all of these mentioned because those are the things we must consider when thinking about vaccination.
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If you are young, you might choose not to get the jab. If you are old, you most likely want to go for it. The funny thing is that the chances of winning the lottery only have a minimal effect so this is all marketing.
While younger generation don't really need to take vaccine because they can stand the virus yet young generation nowadays are the risk takers and they will likely want to become a millionaire for free .

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Saw this quite late and it boggles my mind to think that in half of the world, people would kill for vaccines. In another half, people are getting paid and incentivized to take it.

I'd be taking pfizer anyway if I could access, not to mention getting a lottery! Antivaxxers I don't get also, they live such privileged lives.
That's the sad reality, people want to get their vaccines while the privileged ones resist because they think they're smarter than the doctors and scientists who developed the vaccines. The reason for the rise of anti-vaxxers is the fact that the critical thinking skills of many people all over the world has gone much lower compared to the last century or so. We have gone too soft and dumb. Get your vaccines and get that lottery ticket compensation if there's one in your city or country.

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July 13, 2021, 02:27:15 PM
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In my City most of people are distancing from pfizer instead all are aiming for Moderna vaccine because of many claims that pfizer has this side effect that harder to tolerate .
But i believe in Europe it is this vaccine that only allows?



But having this opportunity to be part of lottery while saving your own life from virus is just a bonus because what ever happens it is our life will benefits from this.
lately, I see tough competition on the covid vaccine, slander is inevitable...

Even in my country, moderna wins prestige over pfizer. The direction of our future life is really difficult to predict but if my government held a lottery campaign like this then I would be very supportive and definitely join it.



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