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July 18, 2021, 12:48:14 PM
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The same with my country they are a lot of campaigns that stating they are having an event such as a raffle to the player who already has their vaccines because some of them don't want to have this that might cause a different effect on their body. This kind of action is a kinda good thing for those people who don't want to have the vaccine but right now there are a lot of things that need to consider such as mandatory vaccination to all the people so they can go outside else if they don't have they cannot go to different establishments. As for now the same with here on us just lottery only to those participants.

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July 18, 2021, 12:54:42 PM
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People massively refuse to get vaccinated for some reason, right? I think it is worth eliminating these reasons. The governments of most countries, WHO officials throughout the entire pandemic constantly lie to people and after that expect trust? This is really weird.
As you rightly noted, the restrictions introduced in the pandemic have caused devastating damage to the economy and people's lives, I think much more than the pandemic itself. And this also does not help citizens trust the authorities and rush to use hastily made vaccines.

There is no "massive" refusal. Even here in India, you won't find more than 5% or 10% of the population who hold that view. For the third world nations, the major issue is with the unavailability of the vaccine and not the refusal from certain sections to get vaccinated. But for the government, this 5%-10% figure is a very big number. Because it hinders the required coverage to attain herd immunity. And I don't think that there was a better option other than imposing the restrictions. Countries such as Brazil and Sweden (which refused to impose restrictions) paid a massive price in terms of loss of lives.  

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In my country, at least 40 percent of ardent antivaxxers (more precisely, opponents of vaccination against covid). The government puts pressure on enterprises to force people to get vaccinated, but many refuse and the struggle goes to the extent that they quit their jobs to avoid getting vaccinated. I do not know 100% what is happening in other countries, but from the information that I receive your numbers and assumptions look wrong.

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July 18, 2021, 01:23:30 PM
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In my country, at least 40 percent of ardent antivaxxers (more precisely, opponents of vaccination against covid). The government puts pressure on enterprises to force people to get vaccinated, but many refuse and the struggle goes to the extent that they quit their jobs to avoid getting vaccinated. I do not know 100% what is happening in other countries, but from the information that I receive your numbers and assumptions look wrong.

It also depends on the type of vaccine that is used. For example, I have heard that in countries such as Indonesia, Chile and Mongolia, the infection rates have gone up after using the Chinese (Sinovac/Sinopharm) vaccines. So there may be resistance from a large section of the population against using these vaccines. What is the point in taking the vaccine, if it is not effective? Also, the chances of adverse reaction is much higher with Pfizer vaccine, when compared to other vaccines (as much as 10x). These factors can discourage a lot of people from taking the vaccine.
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July 18, 2021, 01:31:37 PM
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The same with my country they are a lot of campaigns that stating they are having an event such as a raffle to the player who already has their vaccines because some of them don't want to have this that might cause a different effect on their body. This kind of action is a kinda good thing for those people who don't want to have the vaccine but right now there are a lot of things that need to consider such as mandatory vaccination to all the people so they can go outside else if they don't have they cannot go to different establishments. As for now the same with here on us just lottery only to those participants.
I am sure the vaccine campaigns are running in many countries to get attention from their people and asking them to join to have the vaccinated. But the rewards will depend on the funds from the government because not all countries can give incentives to people who want to get vaccinated. Hopefully, the government will think about how they can give rewards to their people so many more will want to vaccinate. However, it is not easy to raise their awareness to be vaccinated, although they see from the news many people dying and suffering in the hospital and their homes.

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July 18, 2021, 01:55:09 PM
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In my country, at least 40 percent of ardent antivaxxers (more precisely, opponents of vaccination against covid). The government puts pressure on enterprises to force people to get vaccinated, but many refuse and the struggle goes to the extent that they quit their jobs to avoid getting vaccinated. I do not know 100% what is happening in other countries, but from the information that I receive your numbers and assumptions look wrong.

It also depends on the type of vaccine that is used. For example, I have heard that in countries such as Indonesia, Chile and Mongolia, the infection rates have gone up after using the Chinese (Sinovac/Sinopharm) vaccines. So there may be resistance from a large section of the population against using these vaccines. What is the point in taking the vaccine, if it is not effective? Also, the chances of adverse reaction is much higher with Pfizer vaccine, when compared to other vaccines (as much as 10x). These factors can discourage a lot of people from taking the vaccine.

Sure. In my country (Russia), all foreign vaccines are prohibited, and the quality of domestic vaccines is in great doubt. Given the government's endless historical lies and how aggressively it tries to impose vaccination, many people are just as aggressively trying to avoid it.

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July 18, 2021, 02:05:20 PM
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Sure. In my country (Russia), all foreign vaccines are prohibited, and the quality of domestic vaccines is in great doubt. Given the government's endless historical lies and how aggressively it tries to impose vaccination, many people are just as aggressively trying to avoid it.

I was always surprised with the low vaccination rates from Russia, despite they being one of the major vaccine manufacturers. They have supplied tens of millions of doses (of the Sputnik V) vaccine to countries such as Argentina and Serbia, and yet only 31.87 million have received at least one dose within Russia (20.6 million fully vaccinated - less than 15% of the population). I heard that the vaccination rate has picked up there, with around 600,000 doses being administered per day. But even at this rate, by the end of this year less than half of the population will be vaccinated.
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July 18, 2021, 03:07:36 PM
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The same with my country they are a lot of campaigns that stating they are having an event such as a raffle to the player who already has their vaccines because some of them don't want to have this that might cause a different effect on their body. This kind of action is a kinda good thing for those people who don't want to have the vaccine but right now there are a lot of things that need to consider such as mandatory vaccination to all the people so they can go outside else if they don't have they cannot go to different establishments. As for now the same with here on us just lottery only to those participants.
I am sure the vaccine campaigns are running in many countries to get attention from their people and asking them to join to have the vaccinated. But the rewards will depend on the funds from the government because not all countries can give incentives to people who want to get vaccinated. Hopefully, the government will think about how they can give rewards to their people so many more will want to vaccinate. However, it is not easy to raise their awareness to be vaccinated, although they see from the news many people dying and suffering in the hospital and their homes.

I only heard this kind of thing from poland and from where am I there is no available rewards to those who wanted to have the vaccines, though more people here are really aiming to have the vaccines,

Fearing that the virus will hit them up, and with the help of this vaccines the chance will be more lesser.

Lucky for those who have same offers like this, as they got the chance to win decent amount of money after taking the vaccines
that helps them being protected from the threat of Covid virus.

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July 18, 2021, 03:11:15 PM
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Sure. In my country (Russia), all foreign vaccines are prohibited, and the quality of domestic vaccines is in great doubt. Given the government's endless historical lies and how aggressively it tries to impose vaccination, many people are just as aggressively trying to avoid it.

I was always surprised with the low vaccination rates from Russia, despite they being one of the major vaccine manufacturers. They have supplied tens of millions of doses (of the Sputnik V) vaccine to countries such as Argentina and Serbia, and yet only 31.87 million have received at least one dose within Russia (20.6 million fully vaccinated - less than 15% of the population). I heard that the vaccination rate has picked up there, with around 600,000 doses being administered per day. But even at this rate, by the end of this year less than half of the population will be vaccinated.

I’ll tell you another interesting thing - a huge number of these vaccinated people did not actually get any vaccine. They just paid for the vaccination certificate due to the pressure but avoided this vaccination. I have many such acquaintances, so even these official figures are very far from reality.

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The same with my country they are a lot of campaigns that stating they are having an event such as a raffle to the player who already has their vaccines because some of them don't want to have this that might cause a different effect on their body. This kind of action is a kinda good thing for those people who don't want to have the vaccine but right now there are a lot of things that need to consider such as mandatory vaccination to all the people so they can go outside else if they don't have they cannot go to different establishments. As for now the same with here on us just lottery only to those participants.
I am sure the vaccine campaigns are running in many countries to get attention from their people and asking them to join to have the vaccinated. But the rewards will depend on the funds from the government because not all countries can give incentives to people who want to get vaccinated. Hopefully, the government will think about how they can give rewards to their people so many more will want to vaccinate. However, it is not easy to raise their awareness to be vaccinated, although they see from the news many people dying and suffering in the hospital and their homes.

I only heard this kind of thing from poland and from where am I there is no available rewards to those who wanted to have the vaccines, though more people here are really aiming to have the vaccines,

Fearing that the virus will hit them up, and with the help of this vaccines the chance will be more lesser.

Lucky for those who have same offers like this, as they got the chance to win decent amount of money after taking the vaccines
that helps them being protected from the threat of Covid virus.
That lottery really helps their lives to survive in this pandemic because we know that many people lost their job and many of them suffer because of the search for a new job. But people in other places can not do anything if their government can not do the same thing as what Poland's government did. But people should feel their government trying to concern with their health by giving the vaccine to them to prevent the infection. This pandemic really makes us sad because some of us lost our family, relation, and we still do not know when this will be over. But I believe that the pandemic will end sooner or later and we still need to survive no matter how hard it is.

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July 19, 2021, 03:44:36 AM
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I am sure the vaccine campaigns are running in many countries to get attention from their people and asking them to join to have the vaccinated. But the rewards will depend on the funds from the government because not all countries can give incentives to people who want to get vaccinated. Hopefully, the government will think about how they can give rewards to their people so many more will want to vaccinate. However, it is not easy to raise their awareness to be vaccinated, although they see from the news many people dying and suffering in the hospital and their homes.
I only heard this kind of thing from poland and from where am I there is no available rewards to those who wanted to have the vaccines, though more people here are really aiming to have the vaccines,

Fearing that the virus will hit them up, and with the help of this vaccines the chance will be more lesser.

Lucky for those who have same offers like this, as they got the chance to win decent amount of money after taking the vaccines
that helps them being protected from the threat of Covid virus.
That lottery really helps their lives to survive in this pandemic because we know that many people lost their job and many of them suffer because of the search for a new job. But people in other places can not do anything if their government can not do the same thing as what Poland's government did. But people should feel their government trying to concern with their health by giving the vaccine to them to prevent the infection. This pandemic really makes us sad because some of us lost our family, relation, and we still do not know when this will be over. But I believe that the pandemic will end sooner or later and we still need to survive no matter how hard it is.

Actually, lottery has always been in demand by many people, but with the current situation where most people are experiencing financial difficulties.
Lottery offers from the government are sure to get people excited, and the Polish government understands that. Therefore, to make the Polish
population willing to be injected with the vaccine, and also on the other hand the Polish government wants to help the population's finances through
the lottery. In this way two goals can be achieved, this is a very smart idea in my opinion. Hopefully, many other countries will follow it. Because
this pandemic has gone on for too long in my opinion, everyone is very tired, I also hope the pandemic can end soon.

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Actually, lottery has always been in demand by many people, but with the current situation where most people are experiencing financial difficulties.
Lottery offers from the government are sure to get people excited, and the Polish government understands that. Therefore, to make the Polish
population willing to be injected with the vaccine, and also on the other hand the Polish government wants to help the population's finances through
the lottery. In this way two goals can be achieved, this is a very smart idea in my opinion. Hopefully, many other countries will follow it. Because
this pandemic has gone on for too long in my opinion, everyone is very tired, I also hope the pandemic can end soon.

With people who are in suffering in this trying days, this kind of offer will drives them to take the chance.

Aside from taking the vaccines the chance also to win the jackpot will bring them to this, polish government take this step to give some hope
maybe for more people it's still luck that will let them win,

but for the government the shots already dictates that they've already won as this vaccines will help their people to lessen the chance
of getting infected with the virus.
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July 19, 2021, 11:28:30 AM
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I am sure the vaccine campaigns are running in many countries to get attention from their people and asking them to join to have the vaccinated. But the rewards will depend on the funds from the government because not all countries can give incentives to people who want to get vaccinated. Hopefully, the government will think about how they can give rewards to their people so many more will want to vaccinate. However, it is not easy to raise their awareness to be vaccinated, although they see from the news many people dying and suffering in the hospital and their homes.
I only heard this kind of thing from poland and from where am I there is no available rewards to those who wanted to have the vaccines, though more people here are really aiming to have the vaccines,

Fearing that the virus will hit them up, and with the help of this vaccines the chance will be more lesser.

Lucky for those who have same offers like this, as they got the chance to win decent amount of money after taking the vaccines
that helps them being protected from the threat of Covid virus.
That lottery really helps their lives to survive in this pandemic because we know that many people lost their job and many of them suffer because of the search for a new job. But people in other places can not do anything if their government can not do the same thing as what Poland's government did. But people should feel their government trying to concern with their health by giving the vaccine to them to prevent the infection. This pandemic really makes us sad because some of us lost our family, relation, and we still do not know when this will be over. But I believe that the pandemic will end sooner or later and we still need to survive no matter how hard it is.

Actually, lottery has always been in demand by many people, but with the current situation where most people are experiencing financial difficulties.
Lottery offers from the government are sure to get people excited, and the Polish government understands that. Therefore, to make the Polish
population willing to be injected with the vaccine, and also on the other hand the Polish government wants to help the population's finances through
the lottery. In this way two goals can be achieved, this is a very smart idea in my opinion. Hopefully, many other countries will follow it. Because
this pandemic has gone on for too long in my opinion, everyone is very tired, I also hope the pandemic can end soon.
It is a smart way to attract people who are willing to be injected with the vaccine and with difficulty searching for the money, which can open their eyes that the lottery can help them survive after vaccination. If all vaccinated people can get the incentive, that will really help them and people will not feel jealous of the winner because they will get the incentive.

Suppose the other countries can see that this can give awareness to their people about the importance of the vaccine while getting the money after the vaccinated. In that case, the number of people who want to get vaccinated will increase. Once the government sees the increases in the number of people who get inject, hopefully, that can prevent the virus transmission among them.

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I’ll tell you another interesting thing - a huge number of these vaccinated people did not actually get any vaccine. They just paid for the vaccination certificate due to the pressure but avoided this vaccination. I have many such acquaintances, so even these official figures are very far from reality.

If the vaccine was used only in Russia and the trials are not completed, then these tactics would make sense. But tens of millions of doses of Sputnik V have been administered in countries around the globe, and a total of 68 countries have given authorization to this vaccine (including some of the European countries). So I don't think that there is any solid reason for this hesitancy, apart from fake rumors. And I have heard that now Russia is witnessing close to 1,000 deaths per day from COVID 19. This is definitely not a good sign.
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I think the lottery is just there to motivate people to get the vaccine and probably make it something that most people will talk about and spread the word out so that they come in numbers.
This is to attract people to get the vaccine, this is good because the is for the benefits of everybody and to the lucky guy who will win the lottery, he save people from not getting infected and the reward is lottery, such a lucky guy.

Many countries compensate those who will get the vaccine in many ways, if you present your vaccine card in my place you can get discounts on your purchase plus you can travel without having any test aside from your vaccine card. We are slowly getting back to the normal life, the vaccine is what we need right now.
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July 19, 2021, 12:27:42 PM
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I’ll tell you another interesting thing - a huge number of these vaccinated people did not actually get any vaccine. They just paid for the vaccination certificate due to the pressure but avoided this vaccination. I have many such acquaintances, so even these official figures are very far from reality.

If the vaccine was used only in Russia and the trials are not completed, then these tactics would make sense. But tens of millions of doses of Sputnik V have been administered in countries around the globe, and a total of 68 countries have given authorization to this vaccine (including some of the European countries). So I don't think that there is any solid reason for this hesitancy, apart from fake rumors. And I have heard that now Russia is witnessing close to 1,000 deaths per day from COVID 19. This is definitely not a good sign.

It’s easy for you to think this way because you don’t know the local specifics. For example, there is a long-standing tradition of exporting better goods, and distributing much worse goods domestically. I do not know if this is the same in the case of vaccines, but as I already said, the population of the country has a historical distrust of any actions of the authorities. Compulsory vaccination increases this mistrust hundreds of times.

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July 19, 2021, 12:30:00 PM
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Sure. In my country (Russia), all foreign vaccines are prohibited, and the quality of domestic vaccines is in great doubt. Given the government's endless historical lies and how aggressively it tries to impose vaccination, many people are just as aggressively trying to avoid it.

I was always surprised with the low vaccination rates from Russia, despite they being one of the major vaccine manufacturers. They have supplied tens of millions of doses (of the Sputnik V) vaccine to countries such as Argentina and Serbia, and yet only 31.87 million have received at least one dose within Russia (20.6 million fully vaccinated - less than 15% of the population). I heard that the vaccination rate has picked up there, with around 600,000 doses being administered per day. But even at this rate, by the end of this year less than half of the population will be vaccinated.

I’ll tell you another interesting thing - a huge number of these vaccinated people did not actually get any vaccine. They just paid for the vaccination certificate due to the pressure but avoided this vaccination. I have many such acquaintances, so even these official figures are very far from reality.
So meaning your country is totally corrupt ? for this to be allowable to happen ? what kind of country and government will allow this very deadly pandemic be taken for granted by their own people?

doesn't  these people realized what they are doing and what they are missing?

it is their health and life at risk here.

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July 19, 2021, 12:37:17 PM
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I’ll tell you another interesting thing - a huge number of these vaccinated people did not actually get any vaccine. They just paid for the vaccination certificate due to the pressure but avoided this vaccination. I have many such acquaintances, so even these official figures are very far from reality.
So meaning your country is totally corrupt ? for this to be allowable to happen ? what kind of country and government will allow this very deadly pandemic be taken for granted by their own people?

doesn't  these people realized what they are doing and what they are missing?

it is their health and life at risk here.

Sure. How could it be otherwise if one person has been in power for 20 years in a row? And by the way, I do not think that the authorities care much about the high mortality rate - in fact, the deaths of the elderly only increase the possibilities of the authorities as the number of pensioners is decreasing.

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July 19, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
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I think the lottery is just there to motivate people to get the vaccine and probably make it something that most people will talk about and spread the word out so that they come in numbers.

Great initiative from the polish government if you ask me because it's very difficult to convince people to get the covid vaccination in any part of the world because of the many rumors that are being spread about the covax.

I don't have any issue with such initiatives. The US state of Ohio recently had such a lottery system and it was wildly successful. But along with these initiatives, they should also try to prosecute those individuals who spread unsubstantiated rumors about the vaccine. My friends in India claim that they have received dozens of WhatsApp messages, claiming that the vaccine would make people impotent. It is important to arrest such people who indirectly cause tens of thousands of deaths. Lotteries alone will not solve the issue of vaccine hesitancy.

I mean, what do these people get from deceiving the public about the reality of vaccines? It is really hard to comprehend on why anti-vaxxers spread such unsubstantiated rumors given the fact that Science has already proved the efficacy and success rates of vaccines.

Personally and not to offend anyone, I realized that most people who get persuaded easily are also the ones who lack proper education. I am not saying that they are stupid perse, but they are deeply misinformed and easily influenced.
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July 19, 2021, 01:14:01 PM
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I mean, what do these people get from deceiving the public about the reality of vaccines? It is really hard to comprehend on why anti-vaxxers spread such unsubstantiated rumors given the fact that Science has already proved the efficacy and success rates of vaccines.

Personally and not to offend anyone, I realized that most people who get persuaded easily are also the ones who lack proper education. I am not saying that they are stupid perse, but they are deeply misinformed and easily influenced.
hoaxes circulating are really not easy to fight. I have been injected with the AstraZeneca vaccine and until now my body is still fine
In my country, even those who want to leave the city must show the vaccine letter. It to force citizens to want to be vaccinated

I strongly refused vaccination at first but if not then my movement was not freely because my offline work a lot of traveling out of town
just trust the science and what I heard that Pfizer is one of the best covid vaccines

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July 19, 2021, 02:32:18 PM
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I like the idea to an extent if people need to be motivated and those loves lottery will eventually get it as that opens the door if they get vaccinated. So even if somebody is reluctant but this lottery would just force them or willingly they will take it and begin then normal routines. And government is in win-win situation here.
The same in some states in the US.

They've done that and it's very effective since people are also trying to recover from the pandemic and have hope that they probably were the one to get the prize.

It's really motivating if there's something like this although for some, they don't look good at it.
Many governments finds way to convince their people to go and do vaccines, it's very important to have vaccines but it's hard to trust the vaccines yet when their are people who shows some negative side effects. These moves to create activities to boost the vaccines count can help a lot same with some rules that only those who have vaccines are allowed to travel in some tourist spots.
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