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I don't understand what their purpose is to give gifts to those who are vaccinated because after all, in the end if this virus really exists then vaccination will definitely be done, right? So, all choices return to each individual, if they still want protection and safety for themselves then of course they will also vaccinate and that is enough with an appeal and not because of getting a prize or lottery.
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Here on our country where its already a mandated thing for you to do so on where you should take a vaccine and there are rumors that citizens who wont be accepting or get themselves vaccined are to be penalized or something like that which it turns out to be not that good or appealing since we do have our own personal rights in terms of our choices.
Is this legit or serious? What's your country? Curious to know what country is this too. Searching the internet, I have also found no one. Here in our country, vaccination is not mandatory but the government highly encourages the public to get vaccinated and be protected against preventable disease as per Health Department. I think that was against human rights for those people that don't like to be vaccinated because it has a penalty or violation for not getting a vaccine. The vaccine should be a choice. I agree, as much as I would like for everyone to receive the vaccine at the end of the day every single person needs to decide on their own if they want to get it, after all it is their body and they can decide what they want to do with it, what governments need to do is not to force people but to address the fears that people have over getting the vaccine, like those wild conspiracy theories and the fear they could die because of the vaccine.
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I don't understand what their purpose is to give gifts to those who are vaccinated because after all, in the end if this virus really exists then vaccination will definitely be done, right? So, all choices return to each individual, if they still want protection and safety for themselves then of course they will also vaccinate and that is enough with an appeal and not because of getting a prize or lottery.
The point is, many people is affraid of these vaccines. They have been approved without a complete clinical examination - for which it takes several years, not several months. But overall they should help, so for the government is better spend a proportionately small amount of money for prizes and encouraging people to get vaccinated than risking another wave of infections and paying for treatment in hospitals. In my opinion, this is about math and expenses.
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The point is, many people is affraid of these vaccines. They have been approved without a complete clinical examination - for which it takes several years, not several months. But overall they should help, so for the government is better spend a proportionately small amount of money for prizes and encouraging people to get vaccinated than risking another wave of infections and paying for treatment in hospitals. In my opinion, this is about math and expenses. research on Pfizer's impact on the human body is still not finished so it's not good to speculate. here we are all vaccinated with moderna, besides pfizer, moderna also got some issues about the bad impact on humans. The Polish government is really creative in campaigning for vaccinations, i hope my government does the same "lol" (give citizens who are willing to be vaccinated a lottery)
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The point is, many people is affraid of these vaccines. They have been approved without a complete clinical examination - for which it takes several years, not several months. But overall they should help, so for the government is better spend a proportionately small amount of money for prizes and encouraging people to get vaccinated than risking another wave of infections and paying for treatment in hospitals. In my opinion, this is about math and expenses.
When we talk about mathematics, we mean global values (at least in this case), but what will the government say if a person dies from vaccinations (there have already been a lot of such cases), which he went to make because of the incentive to get a prize? In such specific cases, it will look as immoral and fraudulent as possible.
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The point is, many people is affraid of these vaccines. They have been approved without a complete clinical examination - for which it takes several years, not several months. But overall they should help, so for the government is better spend a proportionately small amount of money for prizes and encouraging people to get vaccinated than risking another wave of infections and paying for treatment in hospitals. In my opinion, this is about math and expenses.
When we talk about mathematics, we mean global values (at least in this case), but what will the government say if a person dies from vaccinations (there have already been a lot of such cases), which he went to make because of the incentive to get a prize? In such specific cases, it will look as immoral and fraudulent as possible. Nice thinking KTCchampions! But knowing governments, they will probably try to hide that! In my opinion, the entire pandemic situation is fraudulent and immoral... especially now when they are trying to "buy" people to get that vaccine! As I said before, the next step will be forcing people to take it... it will be mandatory! Meanwhile, directors in pharmaceutical companies are buying crazy houses worth millions of dollars... that industry is fucking us all, they are making so much money we can't even imagine! And looks like they will have a guaranteed profit for the next years!
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Months before we heard a news where to increase the chances of people getting vaccinated they government gave them a chance to win prizes, lotteries and even in some countries you are allowed to travel for free. Yet again the Government of Poland announced quite an unusual prize for people who have gotten pifzer. You are eligible to participate in the lottery plus the prizes are up to 260,000$!!!! Which is a great news. But unfortunately only 35% of the people in Poland are vaccinated yet. Not only that read this : From 1 July every 500th person to take the dose will receive a cash prize of PLN200, while every 2,000th person will receive PLN500. The Polish Government will be giving away five prizes of PLN50,000 every week for three months, alongside the incentive each month to receive PLN100,000 and a Toyota Corolla for two lucky winners. The final winners will scoop up the PLN1m and a Toyota CH-R each... If you were thinking of moving to Poland, then now’s your chance. And if you need an electric scooter, they’re flogging them too, 720 to be precise. Now that's a gamble that you gotta try! If you are from Poland then you have to get the shot! I do think this is an interesting gamble for the people there what do you think ? ? https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/12395/pfizer-for-prizes-as-poland-launches-covid-lottery It seems like the main reward for getting vaccinated should be the great protection it offers you against dying - we've seen in heavily vaccinated countries that hospitalization rates for vaccinated people are way lower compared to the beginning of the pandemic, along with a large cut in the death rate. However anything that can get people who are undecided or ambivalent towards it should be praised. There seem like far too many countries where disinformation has been allowed to spread unchecked and who will ultimately suffer much worse, along with prolonging this devastating disease which has had a cure produced in an exceptionally fast time.
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As I know it's hard for countries to get the Pfizer vaccine and I don't think they have a surplus of it (idk to be fair) but I also don't know whats wrong with Moderna? I understand that Sputnik V is a Russian vaccine and Poland people don't like Russia but what's wrong with other vaccines for them?
They are all the same they have undergone clinical studies and have passed regulatory and testing I have been vaccinated by China's vaccine and although I was lucky to have a choice of other vaccines then if I only wait, I got the vaccine that is available, people should not be picky if there are available just go for it, especially if you are living in a third world country like me, the most important is you get vaccinated.
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When we talk about mathematics, we mean global values (at least in this case), but what will the government say if a person dies from vaccinations (there have already been a lot of such cases), which he went to make because of the incentive to get a prize? In such specific cases, it will look as immoral and fraudulent as possible.
Many of the governments have published data on adverse affects reported after the vaccination. A have seen one such report from Argentina, which claims that 2 out of 1 million doses have resulted in death. That translates to a possibility of 0.0002%. So what do you prefer? A 0.0002% chance of dying from the vaccine, or 7% chance of dying from the delta variant (as reported from India)? I am not saying that you need to trust the government figures. In reality, it may be 0.002% instead of 0.0002%. But even then, there is a huge difference between 0.002% and 7%.
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The world is upside down. While there are people who want to get vaccinated, others do not want to. It is obvious that the Polish government is doing everything possible so that its population makes the determination to get vaccinated against Covid19. The incentives are magnificent, I admire the country of Poland for the desire that its population is safe. On the other hand, in my country I was entering the website where we must make an appointment for a notification to arrive indicating the day of vaccination and I have noticed that my city does not appear on the list. I think the website needs updating. I would like to add something from a Covid19 case. A famous singer from my country after overcoming Covid19. He has suffered the sequelae of the virus and he is suffering from peripheral neuropathy, his relatives say that he has started from scratch to speak, etc. This is a message that he sent to his fans. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRnJVVWAjU8/?utm_medium=copy_linkChyno Miranda official YouTube channel https://youtube.com/c/CHYNOMirandaOficial
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As I know it's hard for countries to get the Pfizer vaccine and I don't think they have a surplus of it (idk to be fair) but I also don't know whats wrong with Moderna? I understand that Sputnik V is a Russian vaccine and Poland people don't like Russia but what's wrong with other vaccines for them?
They are all the same they have undergone clinical studies and have passed regulatory and testing I have been vaccinated by China's vaccine and although I was lucky to have a choice of other vaccines then if I only wait, I got the vaccine that is available, people should not be picky if there are available just go for it, especially if you are living in a third world country like me, the most important is you get vaccinated. I think that will because that country has a bilateral relationship with the country that produces the vaccine so their government only allow some company from that country. But the important thing is the government is trying to get the vaccine from the health company to distribute to their hospital or the other health center. Getting vaccinated will be important as that is one thing that the government concern about so far to help their citizen and give more protection to prevent the virus. Hopefully, people's awareness will increase and they will want to get vaccinated.
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When we talk about mathematics, we mean global values (at least in this case), but what will the government say if a person dies from vaccinations (there have already been a lot of such cases), which he went to make because of the incentive to get a prize? In such specific cases, it will look as immoral and fraudulent as possible.
Many of the governments have published data on adverse affects reported after the vaccination. A have seen one such report from Argentina, which claims that 2 out of 1 million doses have resulted in death. That translates to a possibility of 0.0002%. So what do you prefer? A 0.0002% chance of dying from the vaccine, or 7% chance of dying from the delta variant (as reported from India)? I am not saying that you need to trust the government figures. In reality, it may be 0.002% instead of 0.0002%. But even then, there is a huge difference between 0.002% and 7%. 7% ? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Do you really believe it? Tomorrow they will say that the mortality rate is 70%, and the day after tomorrow - 700% ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Do you remember how this "pandemic" began? All these videos from China with people who fell in the middle of the street and died ... Something like this I have not seen anywhere else later. And I lived for two years already in a pandemic and none of my friends died, although many were sick, but the symptoms were similar to the usual flu.
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7% ? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Do you really believe it? Tomorrow they will say that the mortality rate is 70%, and the day after tomorrow - 700% ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Do you remember how this "pandemic" began? All these videos from China with people who fell in the middle of the street and died ... Something like this I have not seen anywhere else later. And I lived for two years already in a pandemic and none of my friends died, although many were sick, but the symptoms were similar to the usual flu. I have to disagree with you, because I have seen people dying in front of my own eyes. When the pandemic started, it was widely believed that only the elderly people are at risk. And for the original strain it was true. Until 2021 March or so, the mortality rate in India was only around 1% and it was near zero for those less than 45 years of age. But all the hell broke loose in April. The Delta strain spread to every nook and corner of India and the mortality just sky-rocketed. The 7% figure that I had posted is from a study in the city of Bangalore. Link here: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/covid-19-7-fatality-rate-last-week-is-bengalurus-highest-ever-this-year/articleshow/83296528.cmsAnd more worryingly, the mortality rate for the younger people went up by around 20x, from 0.1% to around 2%. In my neighborhood, the majority of the COVID deaths during the last 3-4 months were those who aged below 45 years.
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7% ? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Do you really believe it? Tomorrow they will say that the mortality rate is 70%, and the day after tomorrow - 700% ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Do you remember how this "pandemic" began? All these videos from China with people who fell in the middle of the street and died ... Something like this I have not seen anywhere else later. And I lived for two years already in a pandemic and none of my friends died, although many were sick, but the symptoms were similar to the usual flu. I have to disagree with you, because I have seen people dying in front of my own eyes. When the pandemic started, it was widely believed that only the elderly people are at risk. And for the original strain it was true. Until 2021 March or so, the mortality rate in India was only around 1% and it was near zero for those less than 45 years of age. But all the hell broke loose in April. The Delta strain spread to every nook and corner of India and the mortality just sky-rocketed. The 7% figure that I had posted is from a study in the city of Bangalore. Link here: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/covid-19-7-fatality-rate-last-week-is-bengalurus-highest-ever-this-year/articleshow/83296528.cmsAnd more worryingly, the mortality rate for the younger people went up by around 20x, from 0.1% to around 2%. In my neighborhood, the majority of the COVID deaths during the last 3-4 months were those who aged below 45 years. Hmmm... During this period, the city witnessed 25,699 fresh Covid-19 cases and 1,797 deaths.
I think this is another example of a statistics curve. There are more than 8 million inhabitants in Bangalore, and only 25 thousand are infected by the "terribly contagious disease"? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think that only one conclusion can be drawn from this data: very few tests are done there and only almost fatal cases of infection are recorded. If we take into account all those who are easily tolerated or asymptomatic, then this terrible 7 percent will turn into tenths of a percent, as in all other countries.
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During this period, the city witnessed 25,699 fresh Covid-19 cases and 1,797 deaths.
I think this is another example of a statistics curve. There are more than 8 million inhabitants in Bangalore, and only 25 thousand are infected by the "terribly contagious disease"? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think that only one conclusion can be drawn from this data: very few tests are done there and only almost fatal cases of infection are recorded. If we take into account all those who are easily tolerated or asymptomatic, then this terrible 7 percent will turn into tenths of a percent, as in all other countries. Can't fully agree with your statement. Obviously some infections were not reported, but there was an under-count with the deaths as well. The real death toll in India from the second wave (April-May 2021) was somewhere around 4-5 million. But the officials reported it at around 1/20th of that number. There were 4.9 million excess deaths during this period: https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/2nd-covid-wave-was-india-worst-tragedy-since-partition-saw-up-to-49-lakh-excess-deaths-1830894-2021-07-21So it may not be 7%, but 3% or 4%. Still I don't believe that it may be 0.1% or 0.2% as you claim. And Delhi was the worst affected city during the second wave (not Bangalore, where the majority of the case were not from Delta). Almost every family I know in Delhi lost at least one member during this period. Many of them were in their 30s or 40s and didn't had any comorbidity.
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During this period, the city witnessed 25,699 fresh Covid-19 cases and 1,797 deaths.
I think this is another example of a statistics curve. There are more than 8 million inhabitants in Bangalore, and only 25 thousand are infected by the "terribly contagious disease"? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think that only one conclusion can be drawn from this data: very few tests are done there and only almost fatal cases of infection are recorded. If we take into account all those who are easily tolerated or asymptomatic, then this terrible 7 percent will turn into tenths of a percent, as in all other countries. Can't fully agree with your statement. Obviously some infections were not reported, but there was an under-count with the deaths as well. The real death toll in India from the second wave (April-May 2021) was somewhere around 4-5 million. But the officials reported it at around 1/20th of that number. There were 4.9 million excess deaths during this period: https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/2nd-covid-wave-was-india-worst-tragedy-since-partition-saw-up-to-49-lakh-excess-deaths-1830894-2021-07-21So it may not be 7%, but 3% or 4%. Still I don't believe that it may be 0.1% or 0.2% as you claim. And Delhi was the worst affected city during the second wave (not Bangalore, where the majority of the case were not from Delta). Almost every family I know in Delhi lost at least one member during this period. Many of them were in their 30s or 40s and didn't had any comorbidity. But as we know from European countries, the statistics were distorted not only towards a decrease in deaths from covid, but also towards an increase - when death for any reason (but with an accompanying covid) was recorded as death from covid. I strongly doubt that we can make any adequate estimates based on official data from corrupt government organizations. I think we should wait for more or less objective factors that are almost impossible to distort - for example, excess mortality. If this strain is so terrible (I don't believe it) then we should see a major jump in this figure. P.S. By the way, this morning I read on Twitter that it seems that a new strain has already been identified that is even more infectious and deadly. This series will never end ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is strange that the releases of the new episodes of this series coincide with the massive demonstrations against lockdowns that have covered many countries now ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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But as we know from European countries, the statistics were distorted not only towards a decrease in deaths from covid, but also towards an increase - when death for any reason (but with an accompanying covid) was recorded as death from covid. I strongly doubt that we can make any adequate estimates based on official data from corrupt government organizations. I think we should wait for more or less objective factors that are almost impossible to distort - for example, excess mortality. If this strain is so terrible (I don't believe it) then we should see a major jump in this figure. P.S. By the way, this morning I read on Twitter that it seems that a new strain has already been identified that is even more infectious and deadly. This series will never end ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is strange that the releases of the new episodes of this series coincide with the massive demonstrations against lockdowns that have covered many countries now ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) New strains are being reported from all over the world. Even the Delta strain in India has mutated into an even more contagious strain called Delta plus. Right now the focus is on this strain, because it is causing a lot of damage to countries such as Indonesia and Thailand. Even the UK has reported a spike in number of new infections, due to this particular strain. Dozens of strains have been identified till now, and one other strain that has been studied widely is the Colombian strain (B.1.621), that has spread to other countries.
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If they werent serious then they wont really mind on taking actions or showing of some concerns on how they would treat out their citizens and also its also a privileged for those
people who do get a chance on getting a ticket after doing a thing which is really also protecting their lives and thinking or seeing the whole picture then its really a win-win situation for the citizen.
They are really just too paranoid when it comes to side effects as if they are minding that much off that those things will kill them.
Some still thinks that way, those who are paranoid about the possible side effects continue to decline what the government is asking them to do, they are more on doubting instead of thinking positively. And yes, it's a win-win to those who'll going to accept the vaccines, just take it as protecting your life while having that opportunities to win huge amount of money from the lottery.
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Some still thinks that way,
those who are paranoid about the possible side effects continue to decline what the government is asking them to do, they are more on doubting instead of thinking positively.
And yes, it's a win-win to those who'll going to accept the vaccines, just take it as protecting your life while having that opportunities to win huge amount of money from the lottery.
Personally I find it odd that the government has to provide the vaccines for free, and at the same time convince the population with offers such as lotteries. Here in India, a lot of misinformation is being spread regarding the vaccines and the government hasn't done much to stop it. Whenever they took some action to curb such propaganda, the supreme court told them to stay out, as it was termed as suppressing the freedom of speech. In the end, the anti-vaxxers not only harm themselves, but also others who listen to them. Check this news, from the United States about one such individual who refused the vaccines: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57958358
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I don't understand what their purpose is to give gifts to those who are vaccinated because after all, in the end if this virus really exists then vaccination will definitely be done, right? So, all choices return to each individual, if they still want protection and safety for themselves then of course they will also vaccinate and that is enough with an appeal and not because of getting a prize or lottery.
Because the mindset of everyone is not the same. People are worried because they think that vaccines are made rush even, in reality, it was rush in the sense that it was prioritized and focused by health experts around the world and done countless clinical trials. To convince those doubters that don't want to hear the real benefits of the Covid-19 vaccine, there are lots of things and benefits offered to them just to convinced them to undergo vaccine and lottery is one of the examples.
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