Gambling or playing?

[Smartvirus]

Having an in app gambling on a gaming app doesn't hide the fact that, gambling is still being exposed to minors. Gambling has never been a minors thing and as such, gaming and gambling is actually a way of luring them into the gambling life and frankly speaking, most persons especially the minors would always go for anything that has a price and the thing about gambling is that, it always looks for a small fee, for a stake. A fee that often means nothing to you until it accumulates and becomes something. So, having minors exposed to this lifestyle is like grooming them for what is to come and when it comes, they are no longer scared of it and just like that, you've got a teenage gambler.

[DU18]

Having an in app gambling on a gaming app doesn't hide the fact that, gambling is still being exposed to minors. Gambling has never been a minors thing and as such, gaming and gambling is actually a way of luring them into the gambling life and frankly speaking, most persons especially the minors would always go for anything that has a price and the thing about gambling is that, it always looks for a small fee, for a stake. A fee that often means nothing to you until it accumulates and becomes something. So, having minors exposed to this lifestyle is like grooming them for what is to come and when it comes, they are no longer scared of it and just like that, you've got a teenage gambler.

I agree, if games are being sold to kids below 18 or even 16 years we need to make sure that it doesn't involve a gambling system. Parents can't be able to check every game of their kids, especially if there are a lot of mods and secondary service providers. The gaming industry became a billion dollar market over the last few years that attracts many new companies. Gambling should only be for 18+ year olds.

Apart from game developers, of course, we as parents also have to be able to keep away any games that smell like gambling and violence from minors, so that children can enjoy their lives naturally and not get involved with anything bad that can actually happen destroying their future, besides that in my opinion the government should be able to monitor every site or game circulating in a country with strict supervision for children because after all children are the future of the country and if their morals are starting to break now, of course it can be ascertained if the future of the country will also be ruined.

[Oasisman]

Having an in app gambling on a gaming app doesn't hide the fact that, gambling is still being exposed to minors. Gambling has never been a minors thing and as such, gaming and gambling is actually a way of luring them into the gambling life and frankly speaking, most persons especially the minors would always go for anything that has a price and the thing about gambling is that, it always looks for a small fee, for a stake. A fee that often means nothing to you until it accumulates and becomes something. So, having minors exposed to this lifestyle is like grooming them for what is to come and when it comes, they are no longer scared of it and just like that, you've got a teenage gambler.

Online games like those are surely for 18+ only, you can find them in their TOS.
I'm totally aware that these companies cannot identify the age of the players playing the game, since majority of these games are downloadable to the Pc or mobile.
Kids and below 18 shouldn't be playing this kind of game. Besides, it's always gonna the parents responsibility to look for their children.
Though there are things that these companies can do to identify and get rid of minors. KYC verification yeah, but that will usually drive the clients away. So, they're not going to do it anyway.

[Mahanton]

Having an in app gambling on a gaming app doesn't hide the fact that, gambling is still being exposed to minors. Gambling has never been a minors thing and as such, gaming and gambling is actually a way of luring them into the gambling life and frankly speaking, most persons especially the minors would always go for anything that has a price and the thing about gambling is that, it always looks for a small fee, for a stake. A fee that often means nothing to you until it accumulates and becomes something. So, having minors exposed to this lifestyle is like grooming them for what is to come and when it comes, they are no longer scared of it and just like that, you've got a teenage gambler.

Online games like those are surely for 18+ only, you can find them in their TOS.
I'm totally aware that these companies cannot identify the age of the players playing the game, since majority of these games are downloadable to the Pc or mobile.
Kids and below 18 shouldn't be playing this kind of game. Besides, it's always gonna the parents responsibility to look for their children.
Though there are things that these companies can do to identify and get rid of minors. KYC verification yeah, but that will usually drive the clients away. So, they're not going to do it anyway.

There are different markets between fiat gambling sites and crypto gambling sites and we know that here on crypto then this isnt really requiring anything but rather just funds for you to
play on and youre good to go and detecting minors is something that cant really get rid of 100% and its true that the rest would really be depending on parenting on where to guide
your children about the awareness on how gambling would really be that bad for them. For playing games then it would be just natural but when it comes to the point
that money is already involved then its an another story.

[Ryker1]

well you may be converting them to be a gamber if it interest the gamer. most gamers have budget. if it works then maybe the KYC is needed. kids often play thise video games.

It's up to the gamer and the approach or motive behind the video games if it's strictly for fun then it remains a game but if it involves staking then gambling is involved. Kids shouldn't be involved in the gambling part of this video games but sometimes they may be tempted to gamble as well that's where close monitoring from parents and loved ones is needed

Well, it could be they attempt but for sure it will not survive even though they know how to gamble in that mobile games, most likely teenagers now are in fun not on the income and perhaps they can gamble in a short time but they can survive of course due to the source of fund. However, that is good if parents were able to always monitor their activity to avoid possible addiction to gambling in any online games. Just like the game that I usually played here in my place, you know this game ^{[Rules of Survival]}, they had a betting every weekend using your gems, but I think no one will gamble and everyone chooses to play.

[Lucasgabd]

Having an in app gambling on a gaming app doesn't hide the fact that, gambling is still being exposed to minors. Gambling has never been a minors thing and as such, gaming and gambling is actually a way of luring them into the gambling life and frankly speaking, most persons especially the minors would always go for anything that has a price and the thing about gambling is that, it always looks for a small fee, for a stake. A fee that often means nothing to you until it accumulates and becomes something. So, having minors exposed to this lifestyle is like grooming them for what is to come and when it comes, they are no longer scared of it and just like that, you've got a teenage gambler.

I agree, if games are being sold to kids below 18 or even 16 years we need to make sure that it doesn't involve a gambling system. Parents can't be able to check every game of their kids, especially if there are a lot of mods and secondary service providers. The gaming industry became a billion dollar market over the last few years that attracts many new companies. Gambling should only be for 18+ year olds.

I agree that gambling should be restricted for those under 18 or even 21.
but why do you say parents can't check all games their kids play?
this is possible and as investors should do their own research parents should also do their due diligence on what they allow their kids to consume specially at really young age (before 7-12).

[stadus]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Of course, there will be an effect, children know that gaming is for fun and they are developing their skills on judging a situation, but if you put gambling alongside gaming, children will be confused because they are presented with a luck-based game and this will be their introduction to gambling, which is not good for a very young age.

The reality is, not every game you can gamble or you look to gamble on it, anyone who plays a game and gamble at the same time is called a gambler, and kids should just play the game, enjoy it, consider it a fun activity and don't gamble from it. There's a reason why casinos only allowed 18 up customers to be able to enter, that is because they want to ensure that you are already matured enough once you enter a casino.

[hahay]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Of course, there will be an effect, children know that gaming is for fun and they are developing their skills on judging a situation, but if you put gambling alongside gaming, children will be confused because they are presented with a luck-based game and this will be their introduction to gambling, which is not good for a very young age.

The reality is, not every game you can gamble or you look to gamble on it, anyone who plays a game and gamble at the same time is called a gambler, and kids should just play the game, enjoy it, consider it a fun activity and don't gamble from it. There's a reason why casinos only allowed 18 up customers to be able to enter, that is because they want to ensure that you are already matured enough once you enter a casino.

But with the games that children play, if they apply the game to gambling, then any game they play still has a chance to be used as gambling too. Gambling will come at any time in children and it can be realized or not, because the simple things in games even though they do not involve real money but allow there to be bets made in them. Therefore, gradually they will begin to realize about gambling as well and things like this have often happened in the environment where they play.

[smyslov]

It can teach the young players to gamble. If that's sort of an in-game NPC and place, those kids will gamble at their will as part of being curious. That's the side effect of having a game with a gambling game inside and you'll never know what will be the implication of it. They can bring that gambling experience even if it's just inside a game into the outside and real world until they grow up and the rest would be history. That's the side effect that I can see and for sure that I'm not the only one that's concerned with the young ones who will be introduced to gambling by that way.

I will also get concerned because you cannot expose or integrate gambling to kid's gaming sites, it's not right, even if some countries allow kids to gamble I will not let my kid gamble or even expose to gambling games like dice, slots or similar games that are very much associated to gambling, there will be many complaints if a gaming site integrates gambling or parents will prevent their kids to play there and look for alternatives.

[john_nautica]

I remember playing this game called red dead redemption 2 there's some mini games on this game about poker and i tried it and it's very addicting but I don't think underage people will focus on this game since the game itself is entertaining, I think there should always be a warning on every game. That's the only thing they can do, even now any underage can play casino and place bet on sports betting website without verifying itself that he or she is on a legal age.

[blockman]

It can teach the young players to gamble. If that's sort of an in-game NPC and place, those kids will gamble at their will as part of being curious. That's the side effect of having a game with a gambling game inside and you'll never know what will be the implication of it. They can bring that gambling experience even if it's just inside a game into the outside and real world until they grow up and the rest would be history. That's the side effect that I can see and for sure that I'm not the only one that's concerned with the young ones who will be introduced to gambling by that way.

I will also get concerned because you cannot expose or integrate gambling to kid's gaming sites, it's not right, even if some countries allow kids to gamble I will not let my kid gamble or even expose to gambling games like dice, slots or similar games that are very much associated to gambling, there will be many complaints if a gaming site integrates gambling or parents will prevent their kids to play there and look for alternatives.

There are the parents that have the most important role to guide their kids. But sometimes, it's out of scope already when the kids are too resourceful and they eventually gamble inside a game without the parents knowing it. And it doesn't look important to them so they don't tell it to their parents while the parents, as seem it's just a game, do not care at all as long as their kids are enjoying whatever game they're playing with but without the notice of what type of game they're playing.

[KTChampions]

I agree that gambling should be restricted for those under 18 or even 21.
but why do you say parents can't check all games their kids play?
this is possible and as investors should do their own research parents should also do their due diligence on what they allow their kids to consume specially at really young age (before 7-12).

I think he meant the impossibility of complete control. And this is close to the truth, ordinary parents simply do not have enough resources to monitor their child around the clock and what he is doing on his phone/tablet. You should take into account that even seeing in front of you a list of games that a child plays, it is almost impossible to understand what they are without additional research.

[YuginKadoya]

I remember playing this game called red dead redemption 2 there's some mini games on this game about poker and i tried it and it's very addicting but I don't think underage people will focus on this game since the game itself is entertaining, I think there should always be a warning on every game. That's the only thing they can do, even now any underage can play casino and place bet on sports betting website without verifying itself that he or she is on a legal age.

I have seen that game as well, and I think many on the mobile games department have some gambling features aswell and mostly on Gacha games with the RNG kind of thing if you have played Genishin Impact there is this random thing that you will get the powerful characters or items on the game and it surely features a random pick I think this is a kind of gambling as well and sometimes you will need to buy tokens to perform a random summoning,

I really think there are a lot of games that surely involve gambling RNG that some would use real money in getting good items and characters for the game.

[South Park]

I think the biggest risk isn't the games itself anymore but the big streamers on Twitch and YouTube. Almost all of the youngster these days spend a lot of time on these streaming platform, and if they see their favourite players to actually gamble online, they want to do the same. It is very hard to explain to kids these days that what they see on the Internet is not real. As parents there is no way to constantly supervise the kids and the line between gaming and gambling is disappearing.

Even if it's hard to keep up on what these kids are watching we should still keep, check the history of what they are surfing, and if you have a good anti-virus that can block certain sites, then block all these sites that you think can harm your children, we don't want our kids exposed to gambling at a very young age, this is too risky and we will regret later if the kids gets hooked on gambling at a very young age.

I do agree, if you can block certain sites that would be great. Because these days, youngsters can easily be influenced by social media or their peers. If you can't track their activities, better also to instill on them about the significance of money and how gambling may affect their lifestyle in the future. You need to lay out the consequences involved once they venture into this industry. They need to understand the risks involved.

many executives on silicon valley that work and build these businesses don't let their children use social media and sometimes even any screen/internet at all until certain age like 12 years old
may sound radical for some but its possible a way to go.

It is not that weird at all after all there are images of the CEO of Facebook using a laptop in which he put some tape above the camera in order to avoid being recorded without his permission, in fact one of my family members follows this policy with their kids as they are still young and they do not let them use any kind of smartphone or play video games and they are very well adjusted kids, so I think in the future this is something that we are going to see more and more commonly.

[Betwrong]

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There are the parents that have the most important role to guide their kids. But sometimes, it's out of scope already when the kids are too resourceful and they eventually gamble inside a game without the parents knowing it. And it doesn't look important to them so they don't tell it to their parents while the parents, as seem it's just a game, do not care at all as long as their kids are enjoying whatever game they're playing with but without the notice of what type of game they're playing.

Right, it's a common thing nowadays, not knowing what exactly your kids are doing online. I think what we can do as parents is explain what our kids might encounter with beforehand, before they saw it inside of a game or someone showed them in some other place. Don't wait for that. Explain the possible risks of gambling to your kid.

[xSkylarx]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Of course, there will be an effect, children know that gaming is for fun and they are developing their skills on judging a situation, but if you put gambling alongside gaming, children will be confused because they are presented with a luck-based game and this will be their introduction to gambling, which is not good for a very young age.

I think they will not get confused because gambling makes you feel excited . If we talked children playing is the one they like but later on if they get matured playing is not really exciting anymore but if playing + gambling makes them excited again but it is not really good to them since they are young and they grow up finding that kind of feeling which makes them addicted

[Chato1977]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Of course, there will be an effect, children know that gaming is for fun and they are developing their skills on judging a situation, but if you put gambling alongside gaming, children will be confused because they are presented with a luck-based game and this will be their introduction to gambling, which is not good for a very young age.

I think they will not get confused because gambling makes you feel excited . If we talked children playing is the one they like but later on if they get matured playing is not really exciting anymore but if playing + gambling makes them excited again but it is not really good to them since they are young and they grow up finding that kind of feeling which makes them addicted

They will be confused in the first experience because it is far different from their supposedly gaming .
they are usually playing using their mind and knowledge and winning win skills but in gambling that only for lucky one?
this will be confusing and they may find this confusing but if letting them play constantly then eventually they may learn and understand ,.

[molsewid]

Right, it's a common thing nowadays, not knowing what exactly your kids are doing online. I think what we can do as parents is explain what our kids might encounter with beforehand, before they saw it inside of a game or someone showed them in some other place. Don't wait for that. Explain the possible risks of gambling to your kid.

We can't deny that this kind of resources were made easily available in the use of internet and can be accessed by minor or kids. On the other hand, this is the kind of scenario that a parents guidance on a kid we're very much needed but the kids today were having their alone time with their gadgets that a parents sometimes couldn't hold or check the phone. So it is very important that a parent is very much attentive to observe the actions of the child.

[robelneo]

Right, it's a common thing nowadays, not knowing what exactly your kids are doing online. I think what we can do as parents is explain what our kids might encounter with beforehand, before they saw it inside of a game or someone showed them in some other place. Don't wait for that. Explain the possible risks of gambling to your kid.

We can't deny that this kind of resources were made easily available in the use of internet and can be accessed by minor or kids. On the other hand, this is the kind of scenario that a parents guidance on a kid we're very much needed but the kids today were having their alone time with their gadgets that a parents sometimes couldn't hold or check the phone. So it is very important that a parent is very much attentive to observe the actions of the child.

Some gaming and gambling sites can be traced on their history and some of them had an application that you can install, always check what applications are installed in your kids cellphone, give them a stern warning that they cannot use their cellphone for a limited time if they are caught using an application that deals with gambling, kids nowadays are afraid their phone confiscated so they cannot do anything but follow their parents. 

[Shamm]

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Some gaming and gambling sites can be traced on their history and some of them had an application that you can install, always check what applications are installed in your kids cellphone, give them a stern warning that they cannot use their cellphone for a limited time if they are caught using an application that deals with gambling, kids nowadays are afraid their phone confiscated so they cannot do anything but follow their parents. 

Yes your right some kids mistakenly install an gambling games cause some gambling games  if you do not know that app its look like a ordinary video games .
Parents must check the computer or phone of their kids in order to be aware what they installed  so that they can give some advice or give some reliable content about the application  installed by their children.