Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Soonandwaite]

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.

It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

i wouldn't like to see this club promoted to the first bundesliga. i'd rather go to st.pauli,hsv,kaiserslauter,nürnberg,braunschweig or düsseldorf.
they have a lot more fans and many of these fans travel with them to the away games. heidenheim brings 300 fans with them.
st. pauli or hsv 3000 or 5000 fans or more. there's a lot more atmosphere in the stadiums. that also brings a lot more money into the clubs' coffers.

bayern münchen : heidenheim after 93 minutes  in 2023 : 8:1  

[bct_ail]

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.

It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

i wouldn't like to see this club promoted to the first bundesliga. i'd rather go to st.pauli,hsv,kaiserslauter,nürnberg,braunschweig or düsseldorf.
they have a lot more fans and many of these fans travel with them to the away games. heidenheim brings 300 fans with them.
st. pauli or hsv 3000 or 5000 fans or more. there's a lot more atmosphere in the stadiums. that also brings a lot more money into the clubs' coffers.

bayern münchen : heidenheim after 93 minutes  in 2023 : 8:1  

I think many clubs deserve to play in the first Bundesliga. But the problem with many clubs is that they have difficulties switching between the first and second Bundesliga. So these typical lift teams. In my opinion, the number of teams in the first Bundesliga should be increased to 25. That would increase the quality of the first Bundesliga and many teams from the second division would not have the problem of having to be promoted and relegated again and again.

[samuraijin]

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.

It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

i wouldn't like to see this club promoted to the first bundesliga. i'd rather go to st.pauli,hsv,kaiserslauter,nürnberg,braunschweig or düsseldorf.
they have a lot more fans and many of these fans travel with them to the away games. heidenheim brings 300 fans with them.
st. pauli or hsv 3000 or 5000 fans or more. there's a lot more atmosphere in the stadiums. that also brings a lot more money into the clubs' coffers.

bayern münchen : heidenheim after 93 minutes  in 2023 : 8:1  

I think many clubs deserve to play in the first Bundesliga. But the problem with many clubs is that they have difficulties switching between the first and second Bundesliga. So these typical lift teams. In my opinion, the number of teams in the first Bundesliga should be increased to 25. That would increase the quality of the first Bundesliga and many teams from the second division would not have the problem of having to be promoted and relegated again and again.

It will multiply And it will take a long time for the competition to end, although it does create space/opportunity for the clubs playing in the second division, for sure there will be clashes with the schedule with competitions such as the Champions League, European Cup and World Cup, and that will makes the players tired, because they have a busy schedule every year..

[CryptoBuds]

Well Darmstadt is a team that is exciting many Germans and in particular many people who are not from Germany but who love football, as far as I'm concerned I think that Hamburguer SV is doing a good job too, but I don't know They can neglect, there are many teams that are eager to qualify and this is something that fills each of the players with a lot of hope, of course every dream of a player cannot be measured with a scale, but the fact of wanting Going to the Bundesliga is something that any player is excited about, the 2nd Bundesliga will always be exciting, but there will be teams that can complicate any classification, and it is a matter of seeing how everything continues to develop.

Darmstadt, Hamburger and Heidenheim are all three teams playing very well. And the points gap between them is not too much. All three teams have equal chances to qualify for the Bundesliga. However, the main problem of the second Bundesliga teams is their lack of consistency in performance. When teams lose their truck, they have a lot of trouble getting back into form. The next match in the second Bundesliga will be in the last week of January. It will be difficult for teams to consistently perform well after a long break. But I think either Darmstadt or Heidenheim will qualify for the Bundesliga.

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.
It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

Heidenheim is performing well in the second Bundesliga. But we are not sure exactly how well they will perform in the first Bundesliga. More importantly, Heidenheim must qualify for the Bundesliga. And they are now third in the table. Their performance needs to improve further if they want to qualify for the Bundesliga. Heidenheim has lost only 2 matches. On the other hand, Hamburger, who is second in the table, has lost 5 matches. Heidenheim has a very good chance of qualifying for the Bundesliga.

[mv1986]

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.

It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

i wouldn't like to see this club promoted to the first bundesliga. i'd rather go to st.pauli,hsv,kaiserslauter,nürnberg,braunschweig or düsseldorf.
they have a lot more fans and many of these fans travel with them to the away games. heidenheim brings 300 fans with them.
st. pauli or hsv 3000 or 5000 fans or more. there's a lot more atmosphere in the stadiums. that also brings a lot more money into the clubs' coffers.

bayern münchen : heidenheim after 93 minutes  in 2023 : 8:1  

Yes it is more attractive for fans if their are full stadiums with passionate people, but Hamburg failed so hard at getting promoted to the first Bundesliga that I would appreciate another, new club getting a chance. Also if a team like Heidenheim makes it in the end, don't they truly deserve it when they compete successfully with clubs like Hamburg or St. Pauli? This is also what soccer is about. Otherwise why let anyone be promoted or relegated anyway if there is no point in allowing smaller clubs to also thrive and perhaps establish themselves in the first Bundesliga?

[bct_ail]

Yes it is more attractive for fans if their are full stadiums with passionate people, but Hamburg failed so hard at getting promoted to the first Bundesliga that I would appreciate another, new club getting a chance. Also if a team like Heidenheim makes it in the end, don't they truly deserve it when they compete successfully with clubs like Hamburg or St. Pauli? This is also what soccer is about. Otherwise why let anyone be promoted or relegated anyway if there is no point in allowing smaller clubs to also thrive and perhaps establish themselves in the first Bundesliga?

Is it about who has the most fans or who has the most points at the end of the season? The first point is about emotion and the second is about facts. I don not think we can compare the two. Personally, I would also like to see the traditional club back in the first Bundesliga. But even if the clubs with fewer fans get promoted to the Bundesliga, they deserve it. And maybe in 10 years they will also fill a big stadium?

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, to be honest, the victory of Greuther Fürth surprised me and it is something that seems quite pleasant to me at the same time, I know that HSV is a very complete team and should not lose in games like this, for me they have to do better things within the pitch, I don't know if HSV has been too confident and that's why they lost, but they should take control of this team and do things better because as time goes by things get harder , and last season of the 2nd Bundesliga, there were many teams that took the first place and then went down, this is something that cannot be controlled, the truth is what I like about the 2nd Bundesliga, that volatility in the teams .

Not only Fürth, I was also surprised how they got the goals against Sandhausen. Something like that should not happen if you want to get promoted and play against the last team in the table. The defence made some mistakes and another team would have taken more advantage of that. But now Hamburg is at place 2 and will stay there for a while.

Well this is something that sometimes, the best teams after being at the top can fall, anything is very difficult to stay on top, the team has also had problems, after the player who has had problems with the alleged doping, that puts everything and the entire team in a very bad position in general, there everyone opposes in the study, both players and managers, the controls they have when the players get sick or something have to be much more delicate in terms of treatment in order to improve players, this is something that needs to be taken into consideration, not only for 2nds but for everyone else.

Yes it is more attractive for fans if their are full stadiums with passionate people, but Hamburg failed so hard at getting promoted to the first Bundesliga that I would appreciate another, new club getting a chance. Also if a team like Heidenheim makes it in the end, don't they truly deserve it when they compete successfully with clubs like Hamburg or St. Pauli? This is also what soccer is about. Otherwise why let anyone be promoted or relegated anyway if there is no point in allowing smaller clubs to also thrive and perhaps establish themselves in the first Bundesliga?

Is it about who has the most fans or who has the most points at the end of the season? The first point is about emotion and the second is about facts. I don not think we can compare the two. Personally, I would also like to see the traditional club back in the first Bundesliga. But even if the clubs with fewer fans get promoted to the Bundesliga, they deserve it. And maybe in 10 years they will also fill a big stadium?

Well, I can't deny that Heidenheim is a club that does have a lot of fans, but I think that what matters here is just what they do on the field, they can have the best fans and those who support them the most, but if the team doesn't respond honestly that does not fluctuate, although there is something that I really like a lot, it is that a 3rd place in the 2nd Bundesliga could quickly become the first place, it is good to see a team like this, of course, for me it has a better performance Darmstadt is a team that shows strength, speed in their attacks and at this point in order to move to the Bundeslitga they need all that and more experience.

[bct_ail]

The lower half of the table is very close together. The gap between place 18 and place 9 is only 5 points. And between place 17 and place 10 even only 3 points. None of these 9 teams can be said to be relegated.  I am curious to see how they will play the first games after this long break and if they will have been able to strengthen themselves with new players.

[Soonandwaite]

The lower half of the table is very close together. The gap between place 18 and place 9 is only 5 points. And between place 17 and place 10 even only 3 points. None of these 9 teams can be said to be relegated.  I am curious to see how they will play the first games after this long break and if they will have been able to strengthen themselves with new players.

the winter transfer period runs from 1 to 31 January. there will certainly be some changes. i'm also curious to see whether there will be any changes at hsv in the winter.
st.pauli and bielefeld will certainly try something.....because these two teams wanted to be at the top and not in 15th and 16th place.
but let's wait and see. on 31 January at 6 p.m. we'll all be smart and some clubs will have new faces in the team.

[bct_ail]

The lower half of the table is very close together. The gap between place 18 and place 9 is only 5 points. And between place 17 and place 10 even only 3 points. None of these 9 teams can be said to be relegated.  I am curious to see how they will play the first games after this long break and if they will have been able to strengthen themselves with new players.

the winter transfer period runs from 1 to 31 January. there will certainly be some changes. i'm also curious to see whether there will be any changes at hsv in the winter.
st.pauli and bielefeld will certainly try something.....because these two teams wanted to be at the top and not in 15th and 16th place.
but let's wait and see. on 31 January at 6 p.m. we'll all be smart and some clubs will have new faces in the team.

Of course, they have to strengthen themselves with better players. Or the bought players finally do what they were bought for. But the problem will be that most clubs do not have much money left over. So I think that some clubs will also bring their players from the youth team or the second tier.

Regarding Hamburger SV: The B-sample from Vuskovic will be examined in mid-December.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I would rather see Hamburg's performance in a bigger context that goes beyond just a few games or even a single season. A club with that much potential should be playing in the 1. Bundesliga beyond doubt. They have been failing for I think six years or so to make it back in to the 1. Bundesliga. They spent huge amounts of money and had trouble within the club all the time. It was less about soccer than about politics. Everyone who knows German soccer quite well also knows that it is unbelievable that the professional soccer club of the second biggest city is not in the top league. It is not only the second biggest town, they have also had tons of financial backing during all those times. In my opinion it is a lot about catastrophic management.

So if these things are like that, what psy? Why now with this kind of problem? I don't understand, I thought that this happened more in the South American leagues that it is much more likely to see this type of act, it is that neither in Colombia or in Mexico, which is where these substances come from, are they capable of consuming this, it is not to deny that this is a fight that has been going on for a long time and the drug in any of its versions destroys, so it is something that I do not understand, now there are many ways for the human body to yield more, with vitamins, supplements that do not contain drugs, why resort to this?

The lower half of the table is very close together. The gap between place 18 and place 9 is only 5 points. And between place 17 and place 10 even only 3 points. None of these 9 teams can be said to be relegated.  I am curious to see how they will play the first games after this long break and if they will have been able to strengthen themselves with new players.

the winter transfer period runs from 1 to 31 January. there will certainly be some changes. i'm also curious to see whether there will be any changes at hsv in the winter.
st.pauli and bielefeld will certainly try something.....because these two teams wanted to be at the top and not in 15th and 16th place.
but let's wait and see. on 31 January at 6 p.m. we'll all be smart and some clubs will have new faces in the team.

Of course, they have to strengthen themselves with better players. Or the bought players finally do what they were bought for. But the problem will be that most clubs do not have much money left over. So I think that some clubs will also bring their players from the youth team or the second tier.

Regarding Hamburger SV: The B-sample from Vuskovic will be examined in mid-December.

Well, yes, you are right, many need to be able to reinforce themselves and have a better team, I think that many teams in the 2nd Bundelisga need to take off, it is due, so that there is more explosion in their game, last season I think it is something different from what is in the present, because I feel that last season you saw the teams that were more hungry for promotion, now I see them as somewhat off, I don't know if it's my perception, I just feel that, with respect to As for HSV, I hope those negative results come out, it wouldn't be good for a team that is doing well to receive some of those ugly news where everything begins to disintegrate.

[bct_ail]

Paderborn often had coaches and players in the past who have moved on to other clubs. Now the manager has also changed. Paderborn receives 500,000 Euro from Stuttgart and Wohlgemuth works there as a sports director. His work at Paderborn was very good and the team is in a good position. So they are not in a hurry and can look for a new manager.

[cygan]

st. pauli sacked its coach Timo Schultz today. the 45-year-old and his co-coach Loic Fave were relieved of their duties, the second-division club announced on tuesday.
a successor has not yet been named...

[Soonandwaite]

st. pauli sacked its coach Timo Schultz today. the 45-year-old and his co-coach Loic Fave were relieved of their duties, the second-division club announced on tuesday.
a successor has not yet been named...

oha..oha  why was he only fired today ? i'm very surprised. the first 17 matches have been over for a while ! but now they still have time to find a new coach.
st. pauli has also played a bad season so far. the team has not won a single match in foreign stadiums.
that was much better last season. i am really curious who they will present as the new coach in the next few days or weeks.

[bct_ail]

st. pauli sacked its coach Timo Schultz today. the 45-year-old and his co-coach Loic Fave were relieved of their duties, the second-division club announced on tuesday.
a successor has not yet been named...

I did not expect it now, but obviously it is a good time at the moment. But they have to have a new coach quickly so that the preparation time can be used.  For now, co-trainer Fabian Hürzeler will take over. 
I think it was not easy.Timo Schultz had been with St. Pauli for 17 years and now he gets his termination on nicholas day. He would probably have preferred chocolate.

[Slow death]

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.

It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

i wouldn't like to see this club promoted to the first bundesliga. i'd rather go to st.pauli,hsv,kaiserslauter,nürnberg,braunschweig or düsseldorf.
they have a lot more fans and many of these fans travel with them to the away games. heidenheim brings 300 fans with them.
st. pauli or hsv 3000 or 5000 fans or more. there's a lot more atmosphere in the stadiums. that also brings a lot more money into the clubs' coffers.

bayern münchen : heidenheim after 93 minutes  in 2023 : 8:1  

it is sad that many teams that are promoted to the bundesliga and even in other leagues cannot survive in the first league, they can even survive in the first season, then in the second season but then they fall and are relegated again, it is a very sad scenario, I think I wonder if this is due to the lack of investment on the part of the team that was recently promoted to the first division? if that's the case what the hell do those who run the team think? Are you thinking that you will reach the first division and want to survive without making big investments in acquiring good players? It's hard to hear that any team from the second division has risen to the first division and in the same season has managed to become champion of the first division

[LUCKMCFLY]

Heidenheim would actually be an interesting club for the first Bundesliga. They have competed quite well over all those years, but there was just a little bit missing all the time. I would like to see them in the first league though. It is a nice club and the Bundesliga can need some fresh blood and new faces.

It is also interesting to see these underdogs play against the big teams like Bayern Munich. Would be an interesting game for sure!

i wouldn't like to see this club promoted to the first bundesliga. i'd rather go to st.pauli,hsv,kaiserslauter,nürnberg,braunschweig or düsseldorf.
they have a lot more fans and many of these fans travel with them to the away games. heidenheim brings 300 fans with them.
st. pauli or hsv 3000 or 5000 fans or more. there's a lot more atmosphere in the stadiums. that also brings a lot more money into the clubs' coffers.

bayern münchen : heidenheim after 93 minutes  in 2023 : 8:1  

Yes it is more attractive for fans if their are full stadiums with passionate people, but Hamburg failed so hard at getting promoted to the first Bundesliga that I would appreciate another, new club getting a chance. Also if a team like Heidenheim makes it in the end, don't they truly deserve it when they compete successfully with clubs like Hamburg or St. Pauli? This is also what soccer is about. Otherwise why let anyone be promoted or relegated anyway if there is no point in allowing smaller clubs to also thrive and perhaps establish themselves in the first Bundesliga?

Well, they both have their point of view, what happens is that sometimes when the 2nd Bundesliga has been followed with such intensity, since last season and this season, one usually thinks that there are some teams that are not in the top but that it is unfair that they keep them out of classification, for example StPauli has made many dream of reaching the Bundesliga, Heidenheim of the result against Bayern because there are not many to rescue much from there, really 8 goals is too much, well I don't consider it good and I believe that they lack a lot to be within the level required by the Bundesliga, so it is as you say, sometimes the other teams may have better preparation, but unfortunately they are not in the top positions.

[bct_ail]

The B-sample from Mario Vuskovic is to be opened this week. He has already prepared himself by having several lawyers. A total of 5 lawyers are taking care of his case.
If the Results from the B-sample are confirmed he will not only be sentenced by the sports court. But also to a regular court. The public prosecutor office has been obliged to investigate since 2015 due to the anti-doping law.

[bct_ail]

The result of the B sample from Vuskovic is finally published. EPO was also detected there. But that was also expected. It would have been very unusual if this sample had been negative. He will probably now be banned for 4 years.

Vuskovic has a market value of 5 million euros. Hamburger SV can depreciation this sum. Furthermore they have to look for a new defender. These will be turbulent weeks.

[Soonandwaite]

The result of the B sample from Vuskovic is finally published. EPO was also detected there. But that was also expected. It would have been very unusual if this sample had been negative. He will probably now be banned for 4 years.

Vuskovic has a market value of 5 million euros. Hamburger SV can depreciation this sum. Furthermore they have to look for a new defender. These will be turbulent weeks.

oha. but that's not good news. if it's all true, there could be a 4-year ban. that would be a catastrophe for hsv.
he's always shown very good games lately. if vuskovic is missing now, hsv needs another player.
but who's going to pay him. and is there a fine for vuskovic? not a good winter for hsv.