Should online gambling companies be responsible for harm related activities?

[Woodie]

Yes and No. Before playing any games we need to understand
that walking into their premises or using their online platforms you agree to their terms and conditions meaning you are agreeing to have  a sound mind to make the correct decisions as an adult. But not to put so much pressure on the gambling company...both player and gambling company have the responsibility to minimize harm that gambling can cause.

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[smyslov]

That’s alright to ask for some help but we have no right to demand for them to help us because in the first place, we choose to gamble at our own risk and the casinos are not responsible for the next action that you’ll take. Addiction is a broad concern for many, casinos can’t control it but they offer a help through their organizations that focuses more on addict gambler. We have to play based on capacity, don’t force yourself beyond the limit.

Gamblers will just say that it is ok to gamble because they will just charge the casinos and ask for compensation, that's their alibi why there's nothing wrong with gambling, we should be responsible for all our actions especially on gambling where you spend time and money and will cost addiction, let's be responsible on what we do with our time and money.

[Oshosondy]

Gamblers will just say that it is ok to gamble because they will just charge the casinos and ask for compensation, that's their alibi why there's nothing wrong with gambling, we should be responsible for all our actions especially on gambling where you spend time and money and will cost addiction, let's be responsible on what we do with our time and money.

Yes, I think I have posted like this on this thread before last week, this is true. Are the governments care? Government do not care about gamblers, that is part of the reason gambling is only meant for 18 years and above. Are the betting companies care? Even if they are saying they care about customers, that is a damned lie because they don't, betting companies only wish gamblers to play more so they can lose more, what betting companies care about is the progress of their companies and nothing more.

[rodskee]

Gamblers will just say that it is ok to gamble because they will just charge the casinos and ask for compensation, that's their alibi why there's nothing wrong with gambling, we should be responsible for all our actions especially on gambling where you spend time and money and will cost addiction, let's be responsible on what we do with our time and money.

Yes, I think I have posted like this on this thread before last week, this is true. Are the governments care? Government do not care about gamblers, that is part of the reason gambling is only meant for 18 years and above. Are the betting companies care? Even if they are saying they care about customers, that is a damned lie because they don't, betting companies only wish gamblers to play more so they can lose more, what betting companies care about is the progress of their companies and nothing more.

wrong mate, never generalized the government because if your country is corrupt and stupid in regards the gamblers rights there are still government in some part that they are concern and wanted to put reason to help gamblers not to become addicted or heal from being addict.
and also once the government act in behalf of the gamblers then the casino will no choice to follow what is required for them.
though this is a rare occasion lol.

[Oshosondy]

wrong mate, never generalized the government because if your country is corrupt and stupid in regards the gamblers rights there are still government in some part that they are concern and wanted to put reason to help gamblers not to become addicted or heal from being addict.
and also once the government act in behalf of the gamblers then the casino will no choice to follow what is required for them.
though this is a rare occasion lol.

I think you are the one that is wrong here, can you make examples of the governments that regulated gambling in betting company's customers favor. Let me show one example for you, I believe you know bet365.com, even the UK government wanted to regulate gambling, the betting site also comply to the rules, but have you used the site before? They have many articles that can help gamblers, there are even some spending limit you can set in a way it will not change over 24 hours in case of loss and against immediate gambling after the loss by making transaction from bank to your gambling account impossible for certain period of time. But I have used the site before, I lost over $25000 in just less than a month, how is that helping.

If truly they want to help, there should be rules like:

1. People not working should not gamble with more than certain amount which should be very low, people not working are more prone to gamble more and lose.

2. Government should make it in a way people can not gamble more than 2% to 5% of their monthly income

But is not like that, nobody cares, you only think they care but they do not. What the government are care more about is anti money laundering and means to counter terrorism.

I have gambled many times before and I a still gambling, I was once an addict, it is clear to me that neither the government not the betting companies cares, you can only care about this yourself and learn ways not to be addicted and betting with what you can afford to lose.

[tabas]

Yes and No. Before playing any games we need to understand
that walking into their premises or using their online platforms you agree to their terms and conditions meaning you are agreeing to have  a sound mind to make the correct decisions as an adult.

The casino doesn't have any liability, as long as they've already made a rule that their players must gamble responsibly then they are not accountable for any action and the equal result of their gamblers.

But not to put so much pressure on the gambling company...both player and gambling company have the responsibility to minimize harm that gambling can cause.

It is duly on the side of the gambler that has to minimize if gambling seems to be harmful to him already.

[ethereumhunter]

Yes and No. Before playing any games we need to understand
that walking into their premises or using their online platforms you agree to their terms and conditions meaning you are agreeing to have  a sound mind to make the correct decisions as an adult. But not to put so much pressure on the gambling company...both player and gambling company have the responsibility to minimize harm that gambling can cause.

For the first time, they understand their terms and conditions and agree with them. But then, when they lose, they blame the casino and do not think that they are making a mistake so they complain to the casino and ask for a refund. We do not know what is happening but in that case, the responsibility will come from the gambler because they have the money, they know that gambling has a risk, and they can lose their money anytime. So unless the casino cheats them, it will be difficult to blame the casino because of the gambler's mistake.

[Wexnident]

If truly they want to help, there should be rules like:

But doesn't that personal conflict with the freedom of a person's rights if they were to impose such rules? By that logic, then heck, the government should bloody ban liquor and cigarettes for people of ages below and above xx but no, it's only below (since they're minor but fr, there are still minor people who get to smoke ngl), same with alcoholic beverages. There's also a lot more stuff possible, like usage of the internet, websites accessed, etc, but they don't do it because it's a human right to access such stuff, the government has no legal right to actually stop you from doing so.

[passwordnow]

Moreover, for whatever reason it is true that the Casino does not need to be held accountable in such a way. We would find it very unethical if the Casino was burdened with the risk that should be on the side of the players. Everyone has their own responsibilities, if a gambler is really a gambler, how could they claim the risk that the gambler should bear.

There is really no accountability for the casino. It's known to be a casino and a gambler knows what he's doing and if he's down to gamble. And before he goes into that casino, login his username and password, he's aware of the possible drawback of his action.
If it's a win, will he blame the casino? no. But if he loses, then that's the blame that will start? That's unfair on the side of the business that the gambler already knew its side effects from the very start.

[Furious 7]

Moreover, for whatever reason it is true that the Casino does not need to be held accountable in such a way. We would find it very unethical if the Casino was burdened with the risk that should be on the side of the players. Everyone has their own responsibilities, if a gambler is really a gambler, how could they claim the risk that the gambler should bear.

There is really no accountability for the casino. It's known to be a casino and a gambler knows what he's doing and if he's down to gamble. And before he goes into that casino, login his username and password, he's aware of the possible drawback of his action.
If it's a win, will he blame the casino? no. But if he loses, then that's the blame that will start? That's unfair on the side of the business that the gambler already knew its side effects from the very start.

The casino has a responsibility when there is a complaint from your account then the support is ready to help until it recovers, if outside of that then it is not the responsibility of the casino but it is only outside the player how to play the casino regularly or not.
I think a gambler knows the meaning of being responsible, so it is still within us that we must be prepared to take any risks, including defeat or addiction.

[Oshosondy]

If truly they want to help, there should be rules like:

But doesn't that personal conflict with the freedom of a person's rights if they were to impose such rules? By that logic, then heck, the government should bloody ban liquor and cigarettes for people of ages below and above xx but no, it's only below (since they're minor but fr, there are still minor people who get to smoke ngl), same with alcoholic beverages. There's also a lot more stuff possible, like usage of the internet, websites accessed, etc, but they don't do it because it's a human right to access such stuff, the government has no legal right to actually stop you from doing so.

I did not want to mention that before because it will make people not to have freedom, government should not be too strict like that, but just want to clear rodskee that he is not totally right, we should know that nobody cares, if the government want to care that way, people will say the government are making people not to have freedom, but we should know that it is we ourselves that should care for ourselves, that is why only 18+ are the people that are allowed to gamble by law, children can not gamble, we should fight all means that can let us be an addict because nobody cares, neither the government, the betting companies do not care but like people to gamble more.

[lienfaye]

That’s alright to ask for some help but we have no right to demand for them to help us because in the first place, we choose to gamble at our own risk and the casinos are not responsible for the next action that you’ll take. Addiction is a broad concern for many, casinos can’t control it but they offer a help through their organizations that focuses more on addict gambler. We have to play based on capacity, don’t force yourself beyond the limit.

We are the one who control ourselves when we gamble thus its in our hands if we're going be affected negatively because of our actions and the outcome. Blaming others for our own mistake is not right because no one force us to gamble, and it is your problem if you cant control yourself and cant deal with losses accordingly. So simply dont play if you cant handle the consequences.

[passwordnow]

Moreover, for whatever reason it is true that the Casino does not need to be held accountable in such a way. We would find it very unethical if the Casino was burdened with the risk that should be on the side of the players. Everyone has their own responsibilities, if a gambler is really a gambler, how could they claim the risk that the gambler should bear.

There is really no accountability for the casino. It's known to be a casino and a gambler knows what he's doing and if he's down to gamble. And before he goes into that casino, login his username and password, he's aware of the possible drawback of his action.
If it's a win, will he blame the casino? no. But if he loses, then that's the blame that will start? That's unfair on the side of the business that the gambler already knew its side effects from the very start.

The casino has a responsibility when there is a complaint from your account then the support is ready to help until it recovers, if outside of that then it is not the responsibility of the casino but it is only outside the player how to play the casino regularly or not.
I think a gambler knows the meaning of being responsible, so it is still within us that we must be prepared to take any risks, including defeat or addiction.

The thing that we talk about is when the gambler becomes addicted and he just keeps on losing money. It's for sure that the casino will help with each of the complaints that have been sent to them. But if it's a different thing such as it's a behavioral problem of the gambler and he's the one that harms himself. The casino is outside of that scope already and it's the gambler's responsibility for every action that he does. Unfortunately, not all gamblers know how to become responsible.

[harizen]

So simply dont play if you cant handle the consequences.

Honestly, these people already know and are aware of the consequences and risks once they gamble.

But the thing is, they disregard it because they want to take chances. Everyone wants to win, who else wouldn't like that. And the next thing that will happen is now a part of history.

Some people are lucky, some people are not. In that case, gambling companies shouldn't be blamed for whatever they ended up.

[ethereumhunter]

So simply dont play if you cant handle the consequences.

Honestly, these people already know and are aware of the consequences and risks once they gamble.

But the thing is, they disregard it because they want to take chances. Everyone wants to win, who else wouldn't like that. And the next thing that will happen is now a part of history.

Some people are lucky, some people are not. In that case, gambling companies shouldn't be blamed for whatever they ended up.

The gambling tempts them to come and try to play some gambling games and their ear just hears a sound that tells it is no problem if they just play for some rounds. It keeps them playing the game and using money and does not realize the chance does not come to them.

Although they know the consequences and the risk, they think they can handle it, which is why they keep trying to win the games. But for a gambler who knows that their chance to win is not coming, they will stop at the right time and not chase the winning. They will try it in the next days but if the result is the same, they will stop for a while and try other things. When people know that their loss is not related to the gambling companies, they will not blame the companies because that will be their mistake.

[kotajikikox]

at least they will be required to put some amount each month for funding in case there is a need for gambling related activities?

example if someone tries to rob or other related case and he was killed or hospitalized because of his action and obviously done because of gambling addiction , then there is some funds that can be use to support their family or at least medications.

[xSkylarx]

Moreover, for whatever reason it is true that the Casino does not need to be held accountable in such a way. We would find it very unethical if the Casino was burdened with the risk that should be on the side of the players. Everyone has their own responsibilities, if a gambler is really a gambler, how could they claim the risk that the gambler should bear.

There is really no accountability for the casino. It's known to be a casino and a gambler knows what he's doing and if he's down to gamble. And before he goes into that casino, login his username and password, he's aware of the possible drawback of his action.
If it's a win, will he blame the casino? no. But if he loses, then that's the blame that will start? That's unfair on the side of the business that the gambler already knew its side effects from the very start.

The casino has a responsibility when there is a complaint from your account then the support is ready to help until it recovers, if outside of that then it is not the responsibility of the casino but it is only outside the player how to play the casino regularly or not.
I think a gambler knows the meaning of being responsible, so it is still within us that we must be prepared to take any risks, including defeat or addiction.

The thing that we talk about is when the gambler becomes addicted and he just keeps on losing money. It's for sure that the casino will help with each of the complaints that have been sent to them. But if it's a different thing such as it's a behavioral problem of the gambler and he's the one that harms himself. The casino is outside of that scope already and it's the gambler's responsibility for every action that he does. Unfortunately, not all gamblers know how to become responsible.

I havent yet to see anyone or a casino assist those who are addicted to gambling because of the games, but in our country, those owners are required to give a percentage of their income to the people, which includes those who are addicted as well as those who are hospitalized and do not have enough money to pay the bill. I believe casinos are advising their players about addictions, similar to how cigarettes and alcoholic beverages have warning labels, and we all know it is still our fault, not theirs, so we should exercise self-control.

[peter0425]

So simply dont play if you cant handle the consequences.

Honestly, these people already know and are aware of the consequences and risks once they gamble.

But the thing is, they disregard it because they want to take chances. Everyone wants to win, who else wouldn't like that. And the next thing that will happen is now a part of history.

Some people are lucky, some people are not. In that case, gambling companies shouldn't be blamed for whatever they ended up.

and also they can't resist the lust of winning because they have experienced once to win big so they keep on seeking how to win those back and I'm sure many addicted gamblers can relate on this part when they earn addiction over desires.

Just gamble if you have self control and if not then never enter gambling.

[finaleshot2016]

I don't think these gambling companies will accept responsibility for those who have spent a lot of time and become addicted to gambling because it's their personal choice and because they lack self-control. If you think logically, gambling companies are supposed to be entertainment; however, some people are taking it seriously in order to earn large sums of money, and it is their fault for having that mindset and not being concerned about their financial situation. Being greedy is a sin; you have a choice from the start and are still dragged by the temptation to win that huge pot; this is not the fault of the companies; it is yours.

[passwordnow]

The thing that we talk about is when the gambler becomes addicted and he just keeps on losing money. It's for sure that the casino will help with each of the complaints that have been sent to them. But if it's a different thing such as it's a behavioral problem of the gambler and he's the one that harms himself. The casino is outside of that scope already and it's the gambler's responsibility for every action that he does. Unfortunately, not all gamblers know how to become responsible.

I havent yet to see anyone or a casino assist those who are addicted to gambling because of the games, but in our country, those owners are required to give a percentage of their income to the people, which includes those who are addicted as well as those who are hospitalized and do not have enough money to pay the bill. I believe casinos are advising their players about addictions, similar to how cigarettes and alcoholic beverages have warning labels, and we all know it is still our fault, not theirs, so we should exercise self-control.

What type of assist are you thinking? they're assisting if it's about the game and the gambler is about to play. But if it's about the assistance that a gambler should get from them when they're already addicted and after they gamble. You'll never see a casino do that.
They are a business and not a charity so if that's the type of treatment that you're thinking, there won't be any in existence.