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July 23, 2021, 09:29:03 PM
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My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
^ Reading the TOS is considering that you are following correctly in the implementation of CSR policies because most of the gambling platforms they required to have that CSR policy to ensure their users are safe from any possible negative outcome. There are too many factors of components the CSR has and I think I will summarize some because it is too many to mention. Protection of vulnerable and underage gamblers is the main focus of CSR implementation and is followed by criminals and fraud activities.
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July 23, 2021, 09:37:00 PM
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I don't think they should be responsible because just like with any other addictions you can't put the blame on the source knowing they're not forcing their customers to consume the product. But gambling sites are trying their best to come up with a few solutions as long as their players are willing to admit their addiction. The main issue with online gambling addiction is that most gambling sites only have limited solutions since they can only put restrictions within the site. It could affect the gambler in some way but it all comes down on how he'll react or control his addiction knowing that he can always open another account on a different site.
They have got the responsibility, because it is a business where human minds are involved. It isn't something where we exchange goods for fiat/cryptocurrency. I agree on the support system that comes with self elimination and other features to restrict gamblers if they have a feeling of being addicted.

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July 23, 2021, 09:37:53 PM
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Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?

Of course not. Just a cheap PR move. You can't make your casino and try to minimize gambling addiction, because this things are contradictory. It's like to create a burger meat restaurant and start to fund vegan movement.

About responsibility: They're already pay their taxes (high taxes, sometimes like 80 % of the income) and i think this is enough big cross to bear for all evil things they bring to this world.  

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July 23, 2021, 10:06:55 PM
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That should be the gambler's responsibility if they're being like that. At first, most casinos today are giving warnings about severe gambling and those reminders are enough for a gambler to be aware of what he does.
But as much as the casinos want, they don't want such to happen and they're always aware that such thing is happening for addicted gamblers.

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July 23, 2021, 10:10:09 PM
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Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.
They propose,  that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However,  we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.
Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
No, they shouldn't be responsible at all. People who gamble on those casinos are adults. They know what they are doing. They took the decision, they will face the consequences. Do you expect the casino to monitor all its player? That would be impossible. At best what they can do is guide users that are looking for help. They can forward them to an appropriate organization dealing with addicts and block access to their account.

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July 23, 2021, 10:17:43 PM
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something funny about it all is that they always say: " people over 18 are adults responsible for themselves " at least that's the law, so why would casinos be held responsible for eventually someone becoming addicted? if the person is 18 years old and is addicted to the person's guilt and not the casino, the casino does its part and provide a good gaming environment with proven fair rules, casinos are not to be addicted people's psychologues... I wonder how many people the casinos would have to hire if they had to deal with each addicted user

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July 23, 2021, 10:23:55 PM
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Those companies can’t really know your real situation especially if you gamble online, they can only know if you approach them and ask for assistance.

This is also why there’s a so called responsible gambler on many sites, they encourage the gamblers to become more responsible and if not, you can consult to that site and tell your problem. Casinos are not forcing anyone to gamble, that’s your own will but if something bad happen you can always come to them.
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July 23, 2021, 10:31:42 PM
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Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.

They propose,  that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However,  we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?


Minding about that thing is bullshit because these companies shouldnt really be blamed off totally if someone gets addicted nor  mess up their life because of addiction.
They are aware on the first place that this is gambling and addiction could really be  possible if you do engage on it and make it as your primary activity or even
trying to make it as a source of income. Gambling site owners or physical ones are highly aware  of this but it isnt their responsibility to sermon out people about 
on what are the things they should do.Although, i do see some sites does  have links given about gambling addiction consultation or something like that.
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How gambling companies should be responsible for addiction? Paying them? Or Make special services for addicts?  Huh
No, it is not the responsibility of gambling companies to handle addiction. It is an individual matter. Although the companies have warned you to prevent addiction, not all people can understand it and know how to control themselves well. The companies are impossible to monitor the habits of all gamblers every time, it is not their business. The gamblers must be responsible themselves to avoid addiction. Only the gamblers know how to deal with addiction because it is about their own habits.


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July 23, 2021, 11:14:37 PM
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Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.

They propose,  that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However,  we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?



If they don't regulate this certain concerns about the addicts from gambling, in my own opinion they're held liable for that responsibility. Losses from anonymous people who kept pouring their money for them without even getting rewards or any dividends. They must act for this certain situation, because the damage they caused is more harmful to anyone who's having families to feed.
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July 23, 2021, 11:18:28 PM
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How gambling companies should be responsible for addiction? Paying them? Or Make special services for addicts?  Huh
No, it is not the responsibility of gambling companies to handle addiction. It is an individual matter. Although the companies have warned you to prevent addiction, not all people can understand it and know how to control their selves well. The companies are impossible to monitor the habits of all gamblers every time, it is not their business. The gamblers must be responsible themselves to avoid addiction. Only the gamblers know how to deal with addiction because it is about their own habits.


This is very true. No casino can track all their players and know their mental conditions towards gambling. What they can do is publish contacts of offices that can help gambling addiction aside from their usual warning about gambling addiction. I have never heard of a situation that someone sue a casino because he became addicted to their platform.
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July 23, 2021, 11:36:34 PM
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Anyone can gamble as long as they know the rules of the game and are willing to be responsible for what is caused by the gambling. The gambling site will not be responsible for anything related to the problem faced by the players that it agrees to when registering. That's why it's good to read the T&Cs and be a responsible gambler.

I would like to ask, is it possible for you to hold the site accountable when addiction and heavy losses are experienced by gamblers? I do not.

I haven't heard about such a case before and such cases might not hold well when presented anywhere even in a court. Because, as much as these gambling sites would put some setups like reminders, T&Cs, etc, about gambling sites and people still go ahead to go beyond their limit and eventually lose it all then it's their fact and has nothing to do with the gambling question in question. It's similar to what happens in trading. You've to take full responsibilities for your actions and not try to shift the blame. Casino sites might implement CSR but 95% of the efforts is expected from the users end.

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July 23, 2021, 11:46:15 PM
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In short, no, that’s not exactly what CSR is about. Think of it as a broader concept, and, therefore, consider that the actual gain for the society achieved through CSR programs is pretty hard to evaluate.

You’re talking about the company basically worrying about every other customer that gets addiction, but that kind of focus is impossible and the company really isn’t responsible for this kind of stuff, same as you can't make companies in the tobacco industry responsible for people getting lung cancer.

The concept can be more properly explained as a large and profitable company deciding that after receiving so much gain from society it has grown morally to give something back.

For instance, recently Mercedes had announced that since 2025 they will only be producing EV, which is good for the environment and, therefore, society.

Also, different fundraisers organized by renowned companies in order to financially support people struggling with certain diseases, poor people, etc. are the kind of thing that is done under the flag of CSR.
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July 23, 2021, 11:59:30 PM
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there is no one to blame but the gambler himself, they provided a fun service but a gambler abuses it, just like alcohol, you can drink just a little bit or you
can drink to the point that you can't even walk straight, and it can make you do or say bad things to others, and probably physically harm yourself, and who's responsible for that ? the brand who made that beverage ? the liquor store owner ? the cashier ? no, it's the adult drunk guy who always tries to find a way to blame others and not take responsibility for his actions.

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July 24, 2021, 12:49:27 AM
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Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional?
They will say yes if you ask them but we'll never really know unless you personally know a gambling addict under their program.

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My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
Should the tobacco companies be responsible for the harm their cigarettes have caused to the smoker and to those around him? You should also blame the authorities for allowing these companies to operate legally if you say yes to that question.

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July 24, 2021, 02:07:59 AM
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They never Beg for you to play in their site and they don't even try to force you betting in their games so why?

You mean businesses must be responsible for their costumers stupidity ?

They are even having AGE LIMIT before letting you play meaning this is for responsible people and if we become addicted then it is our mistakes and not from the operator.

Don't  make world complicated because if you don't wanna become addicted then you must not gamble in the first place.
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July 24, 2021, 02:27:17 AM
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Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?


I don't think so since engaging into any gambling activity is purely a unilateral act- they never forced anyone to gamble and the person bears all the responsibility of his losses.

From what I learned in by business degree, all the CSR made by businesses are nothing but words to make it appear that they care for their consumers. But in reality, all businesses have the end goal of profiting themselves. Even if they try to create a 'healthy gambling activity meter, etc.' at the end of the day that will definitely harm their business.

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July 24, 2021, 02:50:27 AM
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If they don't regulate this certain concerns about the addicts from gambling, in my own opinion they're held liable for that responsibility. Losses from anonymous people who kept pouring their money for them without even getting rewards or any dividends. They must act for this certain situation, because the damage they caused is more harmful to anyone who's having families to feed.

Who told these people to gamble anyways? Are they forced by the gambling operators? On what part should they be liable? They have the respective terms for all their players regarding responsible gambling on which I doubt it will be taken note of.

If there's a thing called perks, benefits, dividends for any certain losses, it might end up in a much worst scenario since that will encourage people to gamble more. Even how good the initiative of CSR's, they can't control what's on the gambler's mind. They will gamble no matter what as the interest and temptation are always there.

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July 24, 2021, 04:25:33 AM
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I don't Know what is the purpose of this thread But obviously this has nothing to do with reality because Gamblers Do gambling in their own Discretion meaning it is their own Will to gamble so why would be the gambling owner and operator has to be Liable for their negative effect?

gamblers must suffer from their own negligence that's it.

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July 24, 2021, 04:57:51 AM
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Maybe it is time that the world act as obligated in what the business might turn out for their costumers because Let says it is not their fault why the gamblers becomes addicted but it is their Offers why the gamblers turns on to it.

Maybe Casino Sites and Businesses Must Allot at least small funds for this effect in which will be used for their Players addiction process in time that they will ask for Help things that rarely to happen but for sure will come in time.

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