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August 07, 2021, 10:25:45 AM
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There is no need to put responsibility in the company in relation to harmful activities. at first, they did not force you to play the game and they didn't do anything to persuade you, if you get addicted to gambling, you lose your meals, taking a bath and you got sick because you only focused on gambling then that is not their fault because you are the one who chose to be like that.
I get your point the companies shouldn't be held responsible for gamblers carelessness but at some point this companies can also help reduce the harm. It will be ethical if this gambling companies require statement of account from gamblers before registration so the help them manage their deposits and regulate the amount the will stake for every bet And also set limits to which the can play on daily, weekly and monthly basis.
Maybe the gambling companies can warn the gamblers not to use too big money for gambling, although they do not like to say that but at least, that gambling companies help the gamblers to know the risk.
If a gambler does not know that and still uses more money to gamble, that will be a gambler's mistake because he can not manage his money.
That will not be the company's mistake because they already warned the gamblers but did not follow the suggestion.
If that so, people can not blame the gambling companies.
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August 07, 2021, 10:28:54 AM
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
Yes, basically gambling itself is a risky game so when they start playing then they are responsible for themselves and no one else. But indeed, the company can give warnings in many ways too, if a player enters using a ticket, the company can still remind him through the ticket about the gambling itself so that gamblers can make choices from the start. Because the main thing is to remain disciplined because once we make carelessness in betting, then it will certainly be detrimental and create danger because of our own choices or actions, all return to their respective self-awareness.

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August 07, 2021, 11:13:44 AM
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
Yes, basically gambling itself is a risky game so when they start playing then they are responsible for themselves and no one else. But indeed, the company can give warnings in many ways too, if a player enters using a ticket, the company can still remind him through the ticket about the gambling itself so that gamblers can make choices from the start. Because the main thing is to remain disciplined because once we make carelessness in betting, then it will certainly be detrimental and create danger because of our own choices or actions, all return to their respective self-awareness.
Some casinos offering a lock feature so the user can lock their account for a certain time period so they can avoid the gambling addiction and also they give warnings if we play too long and especially when we click the bet amount as a maximum of our balance because it can be a life savior on many occasions when people click the max instead of increase button.
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August 07, 2021, 11:44:27 AM
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
Yes, basically gambling itself is a risky game so when they start playing then they are responsible for themselves and no one else. But indeed, the company can give warnings in many ways too, if a player enters using a ticket, the company can still remind him through the ticket about the gambling itself so that gamblers can make choices from the start. Because the main thing is to remain disciplined because once we make carelessness in betting, then it will certainly be detrimental and create danger because of our own choices or actions, all return to their respective self-awareness.
Some casinos offering a lock feature so the user can lock their account for a certain time period so they can avoid the gambling addiction and also they give warnings if we play too long and especially when we click the bet amount as a maximum of our balance because it can be a life savior on many occasions when people click the max instead of increase button.

But that is not really the solution to any players whoa are addicted. That might work in the physical world if there was only one casino in your city, but in the online gambling world we all know how easy it is to just sign up with another online casino and play there. I know that is not the responsibility of any casino to full take care of players, but that's just how it is.

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August 07, 2021, 07:44:36 PM
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I did not want to mention that before because it will make people not to have freedom, government should not be too strict like that, but just want to clear rodskee that he is not totally right, we should know that nobody cares, if the government want to care that way, people will say the government are making people not to have freedom, but we should know that it is we ourselves that should care for ourselves, that is why only 18+ are the people that are allowed to gamble by law, children can not gamble, we should fight all means that can let us be an addict because nobody cares, neither the government, the betting companies do not care but like people to gamble more.
And that's why the current system of taking care of addicts is at an impasse, since the government nor the addicts themselves are actually able to do anything, since well, because of personal freedom. Ngl, the government DOES care (well, at least some of them I suppose), it's just that their care is way too old, ineffective, and useless, that it seems like they actually don't give a single damn about the current state of gambling addiction. It's a sad state yes, but it has been like that for a long time imo.
I have to say the main reason is that the addiction is not the same as other addictions and that is the biggest reason. For example cigarette addiction kills you with lung cancer, drinking kills you with liver cancer or any other liver problems, drugs kill you because of overdose, basically there has been a ton of addictions that literally kills you.

What does gambling addiction do? It makes you lose money, it could be a small amount, or it could be everything you have ever owned, even make you do crimes to gamble some more but in the end it just takes your money and everything else is what you do for money, you may do the same things for other reasons since people do want money and get greedy and commit crimes without gambling as well.

This vaaaast huuuuuge difference between addictions makes gambling addiction look very tiny and very unimportant compared to all other addictions.
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August 07, 2021, 08:22:17 PM
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you,
They will only take care of you in a manner that the service they'll offer will make you feel comfortable and wanting to bet some more because that's how their businesses are running.

if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management
Or better don't gamble at all.

I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
They monitor in so many ways but it's only if it's related to seeing how their players are enjoying.

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August 07, 2021, 09:41:56 PM
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you,
They will only take care of you in a manner that the service they'll offer will make you feel comfortable and wanting to bet some more because that's how their businesses are running.

if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management
Or better don't gamble at all.

I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
They monitor in so many ways but it's only if it's related to seeing how their players are enjoying.
Gambling platforms has no business in monitoring or knowing the later end of their customers and there is no where in the gambling policies of a country or firm that will hold gambling companies for being responsible for unethical behaviours of there gamblers/customers. Everyone has the liberty to do whatever they want or like without restrictions once it does not go contrary to the law. Gambling is lawful and anyone that choose to use it to create crime would be definitely hold responsible for their actions.

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August 08, 2021, 12:30:45 AM
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    I really don't know if there's still a responsible of the company Gambling for the Gambler if what happened on them inside the gambling site. I think there's is no cause they already know once they entered Gambling they know their limitless . We all know that gambling site is a business that's people will be interested an more likely to stay.

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August 08, 2021, 09:55:16 AM
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    I really don't know if there's still a responsible of the company Gambling for the Gambler if what happened on them inside the gambling site. I think there's is no cause they already know once they entered Gambling they know their limitless . We all know that gambling site is a business that's people will be interested an more likely to stay.
The casino will not be responsible for what happens to the gamblers because they have their own decision to play gambling and how much money they will use to gamble. But the casino was already telling them to be careful to gamble, but that does not stop gamblers from gambling. The casino can suggest the gambler but the gambler will decide by themselves and nothing can stop the gamblers from playing gambling except themselves.

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August 08, 2021, 09:59:29 AM
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.

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August 08, 2021, 11:29:26 AM
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Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.

They propose,  that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However,  we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?



As you said, they "claim" to be ethical and adhere to socially responsible play. The alternative is they ignore any pleas to help out people with gambling addiction, make lots of money in the short term but get the wrath of politicians who then are forced to create more punitive laws against them. This way they are effectively soft lobbying to be left alone, trying to walk a fine line where they can continue to target vulnerable people in different ways but show their "good" credentials when asked what they are doing to help the situation. It's basically goodwill shopping. Luckily in my country the gambling regulator is relatively effective and forces many companies to offer an opt-out service which allows people to self ban themselves for certain lengths of time if they feel like they've lost control.

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August 08, 2021, 01:48:47 PM
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.

Only responsible gamblers should gamble because a responsible gambler will not blame a casino when he losses it's part of the game, a responsible gambler knows he should gamble what he can afford to lose, the majority of gambling sites always warn their players, they do not lack warning their players if he failed to heed that, whatever the consequences it should be his responsibility.


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August 08, 2021, 01:55:52 PM
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.

Only responsible gamblers should gamble because a responsible gambler will not blame a casino when he losses it's part of the game, a responsible gambler knows he should gamble what he can afford to lose, the majority of gambling sites always warn their players, they do not lack warning their players if he failed to heed that, whatever the consequences it should be his responsibility.

Losing funds because of phishing sites isn't the responsibility of a gambling casino anymore. We're always advised to be mindful of our actions and be careful on clicking suspicious sites. Gambling sites don't have any control over that. It could harm careless players and aren't mindful of their actions. We must know how to get rid of phishing sites these days. We should think before we click.
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There should be a much stricter policy regarding customer welfare especially in these types of business models where customers who sign up are at risk of being addicted. Many may disagree with this but soon as you get into the habit of gambling it's quite hard to quit it without outside intervention. And in situations like this it is very helpful that online gambling sites set up parameters that track their customer's activity and provide them with health assistance or redirect them to a healthcare professional soon as they see patterns of addiction. It shouldn't be that bothersome to project empathy especially for someone who keeps your business running.
What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.
Phishing may of course be on the gambler's fault but the fact remains that they should inform people about this as soon as news of it come out. As for the other health detriments, they could do something about it like automatically locking the customer's account on certain parts of the day and redirecting them to a health professional which could be done within their system if my memory serves me correctly. Yes it's quite the trouble but in exchange for a much healthier gambling environment? Yes please.



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August 08, 2021, 05:52:21 PM
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My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
I think those CSR on every online casino are used as references and applied the advice of the service for gamblers in order to reduce its addiction if at some extent people feel got addicted to gambling. After all every single person that comes to online casinos are adults who supposed to take responsibility for all of their own activities, it isn't necessary for online casinos to fully accompany the customers on taking rehabilitation.
Adults already know what they're doing; they have the option of gambling or not gambling with their money. There are different stages of gambling addiction; there is a specific stage that CSR handles and is doing its job, but the next stage is already decided by the gamblers, so they are to blame.
What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.

Only responsible gamblers should gamble because a responsible gambler will not blame a casino when he losses it's part of the game, a responsible gambler knows he should gamble what he can afford to lose, the majority of gambling sites always warn their players, they do not lack warning their players if he failed to heed that, whatever the consequences it should be his responsibility.

Losing funds because of phishing sites isn't the responsibility of a gambling casino anymore. We're always advised to be mindful of our actions and be careful on clicking suspicious sites. Gambling sites don't have any control over that. It could harm careless players and aren't mindful of their actions. We must know how to get rid of phishing sites these days. We should think before we click.
This is another's gambler fault. You should always take care of what links are you clicking. If you get baited on some phishing sites then, this isn't the fault of the gambling company, it's your lack of knowledge about some fake sites spreading in the internet. 
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August 08, 2021, 09:16:25 PM
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Gambling seems to be painted as though it was a vice these days. Seriously, it's no more a bad sh*t like it is to drinking beer! I can almost categories them to be about the same thing.
Gambling and Gaking Beer is rated age sixteen and its advised to drink responsible as well as for you as a gambler to gamble responsible. Yet people get drunk and commit the actual vice without the brewery being crucified for it and so is expected of gambling platforms too. They are barely responsible for what a person does with his or her freewill after passing out informations on a responsible gambling.

Besides, even in the event that a gambler should put out a huge stake and he or she is being warned for it, the gambler is sure to have a mixed feeling if he or she is being warned due to a potential win and would still push on. Gamblers are entirely responsible for there actions!

absolutely! gamblers already know the consequences of his actions just like any other vices. don't expect that casinos will take care of your mental health here when it comes to your gambling activities. you enter and play inside the casino at your own free will. they don't care if you lose and where's your money come from. the truth is, the longer you play on them, the better for their business. i don't think gamblers should expect any kind of protection from the casino, because it is never their responsibility.

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August 08, 2021, 11:19:38 PM
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Gambling platforms has no business in monitoring or knowing the later end of their customers and there is no where in the gambling policies of a country or firm that will hold gambling companies for being responsible for unethical behaviours of there gamblers/customers. Everyone has the liberty to do whatever they want or like without restrictions once it does not go contrary to the law. Gambling is lawful and anyone that choose to use it to create crime would be definitely hold responsible for their actions.
Yes, they don't have the business to closely monitor their gamblers after gambling on their casinos. They are there to give what they're giving as a service as a casino and whatever comes next to it for the customer, it doesn't matter to them anymore.
Well, we're all grown-ups and it's not surprising to see some grown-up, adults, that are still cannot control their emotions and trying to look for some other things to blame with their own fault.

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August 09, 2021, 03:34:40 AM
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Well, we're all grown-ups and it's not surprising to see some grown-up, adults, that are still cannot control their emotions and trying to look for some other things to blame with their own fault.

It's really hard to control our emotions because that was our nature. The thing that should be controlled is those negative things that can happen after a painful loss on gambling. Try being responsible at all times.

Gambling sites don't have to take action for their customers that got being irresponsible after playing on their site. That's out of their service but if they will have a program for those who fall, I will support them at all costs.
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August 09, 2021, 03:47:42 AM
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Well, we're all grown-ups and it's not surprising to see some grown-up, adults, that are still cannot control their emotions and trying to look for some other things to blame with their own fault.
That's because we have different upbringings in life so we see things and control things at a different level and perspective, someone you might see compulsively gamble sees themselves as doing just fine according to them so you can't blame them too, iblame only disregards the issue which is the harm or hurt and it's causes that was caused by their actions.
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August 09, 2021, 04:19:23 AM
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Well, we're all grown-ups and it's not surprising to see some grown-up, adults, that are still cannot control their emotions and trying to look for some other things to blame with their own fault.
That's because we have different upbringings in life so we see things and control things at a different level and perspective, someone you might see compulsively gamble sees themselves as doing just fine according to them so you can't blame them too, iblame only disregards the issue which is the harm or hurt and it's causes that was caused by their actions.
and it is also about our ATTITUDE , it is not upbringings but the truly inside us.

gambling mostly comes bad to greedy people and this is how it goes for some, best not to treat gambling as vices but instead for fun activities.

so we don't need to bother those companies that only needs business.

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