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August 30, 2021, 09:59:28 PM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

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August 30, 2021, 10:54:56 PM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.
Gambling activities should be taken seriously? Dont know on why you dont presume out about the money involved with this activity?
You know that everything could really be targeted out in terms of taxation or something like that since it do really talks about very big revenue then its no surprise that
platforms would really be following some sort of requirement for them to continue to operate and this is something not new.
Some do follow and some isnt still able to require out thats why we do really have some options.

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August 30, 2021, 11:01:04 PM
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I still don't see a good reasons why a Gambling site will require KYC which is unnecessary for me cause gambling activities should not be taken seriously like exchanges that requires kyc for the protection of others users which can be scammed or use of fake alert and other illegal activities. KYC can be sold to third party paltforms which can be used against a user if necessary info of the user is gotten. Kyc is a vital information of a person which should not be disclosed to third parties mistakenly or not.

It's not about a gambling site because, in most fiat bookies, KYC is required.

What we are pointing here is, KYC shouldn't be necessary requirement for a crypto-gambling site. That's the purpose why we choose crypto in our gambling experience, to "partially" stay and keep our anonymity.

However, KYC might be valid at some point for crypto-gambling sites if the account has an alarming issue as it can help solve a problem of scam-related issues like sites can detect where the funds ended up once there's a complainant reporting a scam. But in that case, we should already accept the risks that scam in crypto is likely not to be solved in most cases.

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August 30, 2021, 11:04:13 PM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.
They do ask it because they're also asked to do so by the government that covers them. It's part of the regulation and that's why they're asking for KYC.

But if there's an option and it's not mandatory, there's no problem with that as the players will just keep going without anything to worry. So if you find the site where you've been playing poker has been mandating KYC, you can go to another one that's reputable that don't force it.

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August 30, 2021, 11:20:09 PM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.
They do ask it because they're also asked to do so by the government that covers them. It's part of the regulation and that's why they're asking for KYC.

But if there's an option and it's not mandatory, there's no problem with that as the players will just keep going without anything to worry. So if you find the site where you've been playing poker has been mandating KYC, you can go to another one that's reputable that don't force it.
I actually hated to sends KYC verification before due to some rumors or that possibly it is going to happen but later on, it was to realize that is the security purposes that could help to protect us when hacking incidents surprisingly comes. This is for us but yes, it is an option to take but most sites now are encouraging gamblers to take that process in order to be fully verified. If that you have trusted the site, I think it was not a big problem, we have to think that it was for our own good.

 
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August 30, 2021, 11:48:52 PM
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I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

Gambling sites are being pressured. Imagine someone can get away with a $10,000 single withdrawal or $50,000 and the government doesn't receive any tax.

Before, we didn't imagine exchanges will ask for KYC but since the centralized system is now taking over, we might end up in a mandatory KYC too on gambling sites, maybe around 5 years from now.

I hope it won't happen and just can be requested to us if there's something unusual on our account with valid basis.
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August 31, 2021, 02:40:05 AM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.
Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.

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August 31, 2021, 03:22:13 AM
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Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.

Yeah, well, and if I could fly with a cape I'd be Superman.

Gambling sites are being pressured. Imagine someone can get away with a $10,000 single withdrawal or $50,000 and the government doesn't receive any tax.

Before, we didn't imagine exchanges will ask for KYC but since the centralized system is now taking over, we might end up in a mandatory KYC too on gambling sites, maybe around 5 years from now.

I think that is what is going to happen, little by little governments are going to force crypto casinos to carry strict KYC policies. It will not happen overnight, and I guess there will always be some casinos who escape, but there will be less and less offer to gamble anonymously.

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August 31, 2021, 03:35:42 AM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.
Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.

Well, it should be noted that the KYC is a requirement that they now give thanks to the number of licenses that are available for casinos, it is also necessary that it is much easier for countries to restrict them in that way than to do it directly with cryptos and although I will never agree with those policies because that comes from government regulations worldwide, casinos do have to adhere to it. There are casinos that when they are launched initially do not have licenses, after they reach them there are prohibited countries, so it is something contradictory, if you go more to the legal thing you harm many possible strong clients.

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August 31, 2021, 04:00:46 AM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.
Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.
Well said .. if we will only consider why KYC is being required as the businesses of gambling will be in trouble if they wont comply to this government requirements . those scumbag must be blame for this because if they are not using gambling site as a Mixing place to hide their illegal funds sending then gambling site wont be required by this.
lets just comply or stop  using the site at all.

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August 31, 2021, 04:21:24 AM
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Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.
Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.

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August 31, 2021, 05:22:10 AM
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Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.
But it is though, especially if required by the government where the casino is registered in. Afaik, even online casinos have countries where they are registered in, and those registrations require them to ask for KYC once a certain amount was breached by the player. It's nothing new really, and yes, there are casinos that don't require KYC, but hey, that might just be the countries not really asking for one. It's more on protection against underaged people really, and also preventing citizens from countries where gambling is banned from playing in their country.

 
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August 31, 2021, 07:27:05 AM
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Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.
But it is though, especially if required by the government where the casino is registered in. Afaik, even online casinos have countries where they are registered in, and those registrations require them to ask for KYC once a certain amount was breached by the player. It's nothing new really, and yes, there are casinos that don't require KYC, but hey, that might just be the countries not really asking for one. It's more on protection against underaged people really, and also preventing citizens from countries where gambling is banned from playing in their country.
I think the online casinos will try to register outside of the country, which requires KYC to not follow their rules. Although, in the end, if that online casino uses a license, they still need to apply for KYC, but the rules will not be too strict if they registered in a country that needs KYC. Yes, maybe that is for protection against underaged people, but as we know, underaged people can easily play online gambling as they can play at their homes. It will almost be the same for players from the country that gambling is banned because they will use VPN to bypass the connection.

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August 31, 2021, 07:44:26 AM
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Some casinos are forced to by their regulators and there is really no choice for them.

Others do use KYC as a means to retain customer funds without paying interest.

I'd say that the casino in question is probably the former and doing this because they have to, given that they are offering incentives for people to sign up to their site with KYC.

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Poker casino needs kyc  because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc  status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc  status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.
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Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.
But it is though, especially if required by the government where the casino is registered in. Afaik, even online casinos have countries where they are registered in, and those registrations require them to ask for KYC once a certain amount was breached by the player. It's nothing new really, and yes, there are casinos that don't require KYC, but hey, that might just be the countries not really asking for one. It's more on protection against underaged people really, and also preventing citizens from countries where gambling is banned from playing in their country.

It's because you can launder money in casinos too... you can use them as mixers! Where's money involved there are regulations...

Reality is harsh here... if you wish to play good poker with a lot of actions with many games you have to play fiat poker, still there's no good crypto poker place with many players!

And one more reality, we had Bitcoin poker games... from all the people who like to talk about poker we had just 10-20 active players, in the beginning, later even that fall apart! That's saying a lot about how many crypto-oriented people are interested in really playing poker!

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However I don't think those launders are using casino for money laundering since there's a high risk you'll get caught, mostly they could use a mixer and has far better privacy.
That's what the money launderers want you to believe that they're not using that method, I mean we wouldn't know about it if it's not been used before so I think that it's better to have that KYC in place rather than wait for it to happen, it's all about prevention rather than cure.

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Poker casino needs kyc  because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc  status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc  status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.
But some online casinos will not use KYC for their members as they do not want to lose their members because KYC in crypto gambling is something that a gambler will stay away from the site. Maybe some gamblers will not have a problem by sending their document, but for the other, they will search for the other crypto gambling site. But the casino really knows about KYC so they do not force their members who do not withdraw big money to doing KYC. If the online casino does that, that will be a win-win solution for them.



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August 31, 2021, 11:44:37 AM
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However I don't think those launders are using casino for money laundering since there's a high risk you'll get caught, mostly they could use a mixer and has far better privacy.
That's what the money launderers want you to believe that they're not using that method, I mean we wouldn't know about it if it's not been used before so I think that it's better to have that KYC in place rather than wait for it to happen, it's all about prevention rather than cure.
Right, I agree with you, it's better for us to do KYC after we register on the site, but of course we must also make sure that the site is really trusted and can guarantee to maintain our personal identity, because doing KYC has risks if This site is an untrusted site and they can misuse our data as a tool to cheat.
I see that many members here have experience with difficulty making large withdrawals and KYC is the reason.

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