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October 18, 2021, 09:32:35 PM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.

You are free to bet on Porter to win if you think there should be no favorites in this fight, you will get a good odds if Porter will win as his current odds is.
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I'm sure Porter will try to bully his way, and he also has the power to KO Crawford so it's already a good deal to take.

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October 18, 2021, 09:50:42 PM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.

You are free to bet on Porter to win if you think there should be no favorites in this fight, you will get a good odds if Porter will win as his current odds is.
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https://www.vegasodds.com/news/free-pick-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-preview-odds-prediction-november-21/

I'm sure Porter will try to bully his way, and he also has the power to KO Crawford so it's already a good deal to take.

I was checking the predictions on:

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-odds/

Thanks for that link. +350 looks even better than on Betting Insider, because there is +300
I wonder what odds our favorite bookmakers will give when this fight becomes available. I hope the conditions will be similar. A boxing match on this level can always bring a surprise.

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October 18, 2021, 09:58:15 PM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.

You are free to bet on Porter to win if you think there should be no favorites in this fight, you will get a good odds if Porter will win as his current odds is.
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https://www.vegasodds.com/news/free-pick-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-preview-odds-prediction-november-21/

I'm sure Porter will try to bully his way, and he also has the power to KO Crawford so it's already a good deal to take.

I was checking the predictions on:

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-odds/

Thanks for that link. +350 looks even better than on Betting Insider, because there is +300
I wonder what odds our favorite bookmakers will give when this fight becomes available. I hope the conditions will be similar. A boxing match on this level can always bring a surprise.

The odds are already out in some crypto sportsbooks here like bitsler, betja.
Crawford, of course, is the favorite here with the odds of 1.14-1.16 vs Porter with 4.71-4.75 odds.
But after the recent upset in boxing, I am talking about Mikey Garcia vs. Sandor Martin, you can really never be sure even if the boxer has very good record.
Martin was huge underdog in his bout with Garcia. So a lot were really expecting that Mikey will emerge as winner.
And now, with Crawford and Porter, Porter for me is not an easy opponent. Let us see...
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October 18, 2021, 11:18:34 PM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.

You are free to bet on Porter to win if you think there should be no favorites in this fight, you will get a good odds if Porter will win as his current odds is.
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https://www.vegasodds.com/news/free-pick-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-preview-odds-prediction-november-21/

I'm sure Porter will try to bully his way, and he also has the power to KO Crawford so it's already a good deal to take.

I was checking the predictions on:

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-odds/

Thanks for that link. +350 looks even better than on Betting Insider, because there is +300
I wonder what odds our favorite bookmakers will give when this fight becomes available. I hope the conditions will be similar. A boxing match on this level can always bring a surprise.

There is no way the odds won't be similar on our favorite bookmarkers. Expect that line will not have a difference between fiat sportsbook and crypto sportsbook. That's the good thing in fiat sportsbook as they released early odds provided by the odds provider. We can now have an idea once the fight is open for betting on our favorite crypto sportsbook.
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October 18, 2021, 11:27:37 PM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.
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October 19, 2021, 04:49:28 AM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.
Of course a lot punchers make you looks more dominated, but throwing multiple random punch will make your opponent to give counter punch and you can't defend it since your hands isn't in defense position. To be honest both of Crawford and Porter is a good boxer, the major difference is the record. That's why Crawford being the favorite here, there's a high chance we might see an upset too.

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October 19, 2021, 12:22:13 PM
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@Boafeng. What is your prediction?

I'm still go with my original prediction of the fight going into a full 12 rounds.

Shawn Porter is still very durable and I don't think that the Errol Spence Jr fight soften him in any form. He has been with tough fighters, like going into distance with Garcia and also Ugas and Thurman as well. His chin is still intact and it will carry him on this fight with Crawford. Porter is a relentless pressure fighter that can maintain the phase in 12 rounds.

So I will go against the popular opinion that this fight with be under 10.5.

I'm going with you, although Crawford is the favorite here, the interesting odds to bet is the over/under of the fight and this should go 12 rounds as no fighter has stopped Shawn Porter yet in a showdown. Crawford also understands that Porter has power, so his aggressiveness might only result in a mistake that will make him open and Porter will capitalize on that.

BTW, what betting sites already have this kind of odds?


It's not yet on sportsbet mate, but definitely as we get close to the fight date, they are going to list this and give us the handicap and the per round options. And all of Porter's lost are very close, definitely he was hurt but wasn't fully knock down. And that's why I said that this fight will be a back and forth and will go for full 12 rounds. Crawford will be tested here and we will see how great he is. If he won this fight then we can all give credit for him to really stepping up against a durable fighter like Porter.

I see, but is that over/under 10.5 rounds going to be listed soon?

I think if the public believes that Porter will last until 12 rounds and experts had the same thought, then probably offering 10.5 rounds would only give free money to the bettors. As a bettor, I would also look for an easy win and I would agree with you that Porter is very durable, so the chance this fight to go rounds of over 10.5 is probably around 80%.

Definitely, it will be offered, maybe it's just a question on what will be the odds? It could be that attractive or not? really depends on how they are going to put it on us. Maybe it is a safe bet, but we will see if the odds is like 1.5x and higher, I'd say it's already good bet for us.

So we just need to be really check our sport bookies if when and what will be the odds in the beginning so that we can bet when it is still higher. Will update the thread as well.

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October 20, 2021, 04:06:56 PM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.

I won't consider his wins against Khan (way past his prime, china chin), and Kell Brook (way past his prime, soul taken by GGG, broken orbital bone) an impressive win, Benavidez Jr, I will give him credit, but he is not even in the top 5 of the best welterweight.

That's why we have been saying that this is the first time that Crawford will be stepping up the competition, Porter is a legitimate 147 lbs fighter and an ex-champion. So he will be tested in this fight and if he win, we will give full credit.
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.

I won't consider his wins against Khan (way past his prime, china chin), and Kell Brook (way past his prime, soul taken by GGG, broken orbital bone) an impressive win, Benavidez Jr, I will give him credit, but he is not even in the top 5 of the best welterweight.

That's why we have been saying that this is the first time that Crawford will be stepping up the competition, Porter is a legitimate 147 lbs fighter and an ex-champion. So he will be tested in this fight and if he win, we will give full credit.

Well said, this is one of the toughest fights of Crawford and there have been many critics on him that he cherry-picks an opponent to stay undefeated and have an easy win. This time, I know it's gonna be hard for Crawford to fight a very aggressive fighter who can pressure him all night and if they don't prepare for the style of Porter and underestimate him, then I think we will witness an upset in the fight night.

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October 21, 2021, 01:36:02 AM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.

I won't consider his wins against Khan (way past his prime, china chin), and Kell Brook (way past his prime, soul taken by GGG, broken orbital bone) an impressive win, Benavidez Jr, I will give him credit, but he is not even in the top 5 of the best welterweight.

That's why we have been saying that this is the first time that Crawford will be stepping up the competition, Porter is a legitimate 147 lbs fighter and an ex-champion. So he will be tested in this fight and if he win, we will give full credit.

Well said, this is one of the toughest fights of Crawford and there have been many critics on him that he cherry-picks an opponent to stay undefeated and have an easy win. This time, I know it's gonna be hard for Crawford to fight a very aggressive fighter who can pressure him all night and if they don't prepare for the style of Porter and underestimate him, then I think we will witness an upset in the fight night.

Exactly, all his previous fights have been cherry pick by Top Rank so it's all in-house money for Bob. And now that Crawford is going to fight someone outside of his promotional company, we can give him credit if he really wins in a big fashion, like knocking out Porter, who hasn't tasted a lost in the canvass.

So we will see how Crawford will manage this fight because we all know that Porter is a very aggressive fighter and this might be the first time that we will see Crawford getting in trouble.

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October 21, 2021, 01:52:01 AM
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.

I won't consider his wins against Khan (way past his prime, china chin), and Kell Brook (way past his prime, soul taken by GGG, broken orbital bone) an impressive win, Benavidez Jr, I will give him credit, but he is not even in the top 5 of the best welterweight.

That's why we have been saying that this is the first time that Crawford will be stepping up the competition, Porter is a legitimate 147 lbs fighter and an ex-champion. So he will be tested in this fight and if he win, we will give full credit.

Well said, this is one of the toughest fights of Crawford and there have been many critics on him that he cherry-picks an opponent to stay undefeated and have an easy win. This time, I know it's gonna be hard for Crawford to fight a very aggressive fighter who can pressure him all night and if they don't prepare for the style of Porter and underestimate him, then I think we will witness an upset in the fight night.

Exactly, all his previous fights have been cherry pick by Top Rank so it's all in-house money for Bob. And now that Crawford is going to fight someone outside of his promotional company, we can give him credit if he really wins in a big fashion, like knocking out Porter, who hasn't tasted a lost in the canvass.

So we will see how Crawford will manage this fight because we all know that Porter is a very aggressive fighter and this might be the first time that we will see Crawford getting in trouble.

How could the Crawford critics say Crawford's camp is cherry picking opponents? Are they not looking at the past fights of Crawford? Look at how many undefeated fighters Crawford faced and defeated convincingly? Before knocking out Kell Brook, who defeated Porter by the way, he TKOed the undefeated Kavaliauskas. Prior to him knocking out Amir Khan, Crawford also knocked out three undefeated fighters. That does not seem to look like cherry picking to me.

Let's go back to the odds. They're released by analysts. Crawford has 1.13 and Porter 5.20.
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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.

I won't consider his wins against Khan (way past his prime, china chin), and Kell Brook (way past his prime, soul taken by GGG, broken orbital bone) an impressive win, Benavidez Jr, I will give him credit, but he is not even in the top 5 of the best welterweight.

That's why we have been saying that this is the first time that Crawford will be stepping up the competition, Porter is a legitimate 147 lbs fighter and an ex-champion. So he will be tested in this fight and if he win, we will give full credit.

Well said, this is one of the toughest fights of Crawford and there have been many critics on him that he cherry-picks an opponent to stay undefeated and have an easy win. This time, I know it's gonna be hard for Crawford to fight a very aggressive fighter who can pressure him all night and if they don't prepare for the style of Porter and underestimate him, then I think we will witness an upset in the fight night.

Exactly, all his previous fights have been cherry pick by Top Rank so it's all in-house money for Bob. And now that Crawford is going to fight someone outside of his promotional company, we can give him credit if he really wins in a big fashion, like knocking out Porter, who hasn't tasted a lost in the canvass.

So we will see how Crawford will manage this fight because we all know that Porter is a very aggressive fighter and this might be the first time that we will see Crawford getting in trouble.

How could the Crawford critics say Crawford's camp is cherry picking opponents? Are they not looking at the past fights of Crawford? Look at how many undefeated fighters Crawford faced and defeated convincingly? Before knocking out Kell Brook, who defeated Porter by the way, he TKOed the undefeated Kavaliauskas. Prior to him knocking out Amir Khan, Crawford also knocked out three undefeated fighters. That does not seem to look like cherry picking to me.

Let's go back to the odds. They're released by analysts. Crawford has 1.13 and Porter 5.20.

Tell me who Kavaliauskas beat in the past that can even match Porter's resume?

The Porter vs Brook fight was close - scores are: 114-114, 112-116, 111-117. And this was 2014.

I will give him props for taking the 0 of Victor Postol.

Julius Indongo? anyone familiar with this name?

Jeff Horn? the guy that supposedly beat Manny Pacquiao?

Yuri Gamboa? way past his prime when Crawford fought him.

Jose Benavidez? again, look at the fighters he face defeated before facing Crawford. The level of opposition is weak.

And those fighters are all from the camp of Top Rank, so looks like cherry pick to me, IMHO.

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As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.
In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.

I won't consider his wins against Khan (way past his prime, china chin), and Kell Brook (way past his prime, soul taken by GGG, broken orbital bone) an impressive win, Benavidez Jr, I will give him credit, but he is not even in the top 5 of the best welterweight.

That's why we have been saying that this is the first time that Crawford will be stepping up the competition, Porter is a legitimate 147 lbs fighter and an ex-champion. So he will be tested in this fight and if he win, we will give full credit.

Well said, this is one of the toughest fights of Crawford and there have been many critics on him that he cherry-picks an opponent to stay undefeated and have an easy win. This time, I know it's gonna be hard for Crawford to fight a very aggressive fighter who can pressure him all night and if they don't prepare for the style of Porter and underestimate him, then I think we will witness an upset in the fight night.

Odds are really high for Porter 5.20 currently, so style makes fight, and this is a classic example.

Cherry-picks means picking a fighter that will show you strength and that's what we have seen throughout Crawford's career, a fighter can be undefeated but it doesn't mean a thing, maybe all he defeated in the past has a bad record. And that's why I said I will give full credit for Crawford for fighter a boxer like Porter and outside of his comfort zone in Top Rank.
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I remember that Keith Thurman commented about his analysis for the two boxer. Thurman has a lot of experience facing Porter in the ring and he is biased on his analysis. He has a point on all of his comment about the different on skills for Crawford to Porter but this is still boxing and a boxer can formulate a counter for a formidable opponent just like what Marquez did to Pacquiao during there final fight. I think Thurman comment has a mixed emotion because he still didn't faced Crawford and yet he is downgrading much Porter just because he defeat it before. Maybe he is jealous for not facing Crawford.

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How could the Crawford critics say Crawford's camp is cherry picking opponents? Are they not looking at the past fights of Crawford? Look at how many undefeated fighters Crawford faced and defeated convincingly? Before knocking out Kell Brook, who defeated Porter by the way, he TKOed the undefeated Kavaliauskas. Prior to him knocking out Amir Khan, Crawford also knocked out three undefeated fighters. That does not seem to look like cherry picking to me.

Let's go back to the odds. They're released by analysts. Crawford has 1.13 and Porter 5.20.

Tell me who Kavaliauskas beat in the past that can even match Porter's resume?

The Porter vs Brook fight was close - scores are: 114-114, 112-116, 111-117. And this was 2014.

I will give him props for taking the 0 of Victor Postol.

Julius Indongo? anyone familiar with this name?

Jeff Horn? the guy that supposedly beat Manny Pacquiao?

Yuri Gamboa? way past his prime when Crawford fought him.

Jose Benavidez? again, look at the fighters he face defeated before facing Crawford. The level of opposition is weak.

And those fighters are all from the camp of Top Rank, so looks like cherry pick to me, IMHO.

That's a lot of name. I don't want to respond to it one by one. Anyway we could present it this way so that Crawford could appear as if he or his camp is cherry picking. In a similar way that we could also present Porter's resume, which is actually worse than Crawford's in any way you look at it, in this way so that he could look a worse fighter.

At the end of the day, however you discredit Crawford's opponents and praise Porter's opponents, you cannot revise their fight statistics, their pound-for-pound rankings, the records of their performances inside the ring, etc.

All this I think is created to make an impact that the two fighters are at par with each other and are equal in terms of boxing skills. This is to make boxings fans interested. This is just to promote the fight, that this is a showdown of equals. Which is not.

I could have challenged you for a friendly bet here but since the betting sites are offering very high odds for Porter, it is not worth it on your part.
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October 22, 2021, 03:00:27 AM
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^^ I'm not discrediting Crawford's resume, it was really superb as he takes 0 of his opponents in the past. I think the trend has been set by Top Rank and Bob Arum on Manny Pacquiao, they put a opponent in front of him that can really enhance his ability and it's the fight is all in house as they said that's why critics argues that Arum "cherry pick" Manny's Pacquiao's opponents. So they have a blue print now, and that's what they did on Crawford, that's why we have the same critics saying the same on Crawford. And this is the first time that Bud Crawford will step up that will define his legacy if he beat Porter.

Yep, smart money and smart bettors will still go for Crawford, maybe by decision or fight goes to distance.

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October 22, 2021, 05:38:11 AM
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^^ I'm not discrediting Crawford's resume, it was really superb as he takes 0 of his opponents in the past. I think the trend has been set by Top Rank and Bob Arum on Manny Pacquiao, they put a opponent in front of him that can really enhance his ability and it's the fight is all in house as they said that's why critics argues that Arum "cherry pick" Manny's Pacquiao's opponents. So they have a blue print now, and that's what they did on Crawford, that's why we have the same critics saying the same on Crawford. And this is the first time that Bud Crawford will step up that will define his legacy if he beat Porter.

Yep, smart money and smart bettors will still go for Crawford, maybe by decision or fight goes to distance.

I disagree with that, I believe that Manny Pacquiao is just exceptional, he beat a lot of champions during his career that's why he became an 8th division world champion and no one will achieve that for sure, he is a legend, we can't compare him with Crawford.

however, we can say that Manny owes his success to Bob Arum as well as he was given big fights under the promotion of Bob Arum, so I guess they are still good friends until now although they don't look like one in the media.

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October 23, 2021, 05:01:24 AM
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I remember that Keith Thurman commented about his analysis for the two boxer. Thurman has a lot of experience facing Porter in the ring and he is biased on his analysis. He has a point on all of his comment about the different on skills for Crawford to Porter but this is still boxing and a boxer can formulate a counter for a formidable opponent just like what Marquez did to Pacquiao during there final fight. I think Thurman comment has a mixed emotion because he still didn't faced Crawford and yet he is downgrading much Porter just because he defeat it before. Maybe he is jealous for not facing Crawford.


He's pointing his opinion and it shouldn't be treated like that,
not because you beat the person automatically, you can downgrade his capacity.

Porter is an aggressive type of fighter, but if he will manage to convert, Crawford will be at risk.
But for sure Crawford's camp also reviewing those previous fights from Porter and analyze to where to find the advantages.

All those opinions and speculations will be concluded after the fight.
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I remember that Keith Thurman commented about his analysis for the two boxer. Thurman has a lot of experience facing Porter in the ring and he is biased on his analysis. He has a point on all of his comment about the different on skills for Crawford to Porter but this is still boxing and a boxer can formulate a counter for a formidable opponent just like what Marquez did to Pacquiao during there final fight. I think Thurman comment has a mixed emotion because he still didn't faced Crawford and yet he is downgrading much Porter just because he defeat it before. Maybe he is jealous for not facing Crawford.

He's pointing his opinion and it shouldn't be treated like that,
not because you beat the person automatically, you can downgrade his capacity.

Porter is an aggressive type of fighter, but if he will manage to convert, Crawford will be at risk.
But for sure Crawford's camp also reviewing those previous fights from Porter and analyze to where to find the advantages.

All those opinions and speculations will be concluded after the fight.

That's just his opinion though, but maybe it has substance because he has face Porter before and he was able to beat him in a close fight. And right, Keith hasn't face Crawford so his opinion might be biased at all angle.

I don't see though that Porter will change his style, he already own it, and it's really effective as he has beat a lot of good fighters, and close to beating Spence in that style if not for the knock down scored.

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^^ I'm not discrediting Crawford's resume, it was really superb as he takes 0 of his opponents in the past. I think the trend has been set by Top Rank and Bob Arum on Manny Pacquiao, they put a opponent in front of him that can really enhance his ability and it's the fight is all in house as they said that's why critics argues that Arum "cherry pick" Manny's Pacquiao's opponents. So they have a blue print now, and that's what they did on Crawford, that's why we have the same critics saying the same on Crawford. And this is the first time that Bud Crawford will step up that will define his legacy if he beat Porter.

Yep, smart money and smart bettors will still go for Crawford, maybe by decision or fight goes to distance.

I disagree with that, I believe that Manny Pacquiao is just exceptional, he beat a lot of champions during his career that's why he became an 8th division world champion and no one will achieve that for sure, he is a legend, we can't compare him with Crawford.

however, we can say that Manny owes his success to Bob Arum as well as he was given big fights under the promotion of Bob Arum, so I guess they are still good friends until now although they don't look like one in the media.

I'm with you mate, Terence Crawford is nowhere near the footsteps of the boxing legend Manny Pacquaio. The Filipino boxer has taught most of the famous Mexican fighters like Barrera, dela Hoya, Marquez, and Morales not to mess with him. And surely Pacquiao made a huge steps on his career just to be the only boxer who holds 8th division world championship.

Crawford is also an aspiring professional boxer who wants to carve his name in the boxing industry. But given his age, we can't compare him for a bit with Manny Pacquiao.

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