Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable?

[Timelord2067]

However, if over long periods of time, if a manager allows lots of shit posts, and doesn’t do anything about it, it will reflect negatively on the person who didn’t fire the campaign manager in favor of someone who would address the shit posts.

Campaign Managers don't have any kind of editorial control over a participants posts.  

There is no requirement to continue to receive merits once in the campaign - far from it.  If a participant can con or buy as little as five merits in the last 120 days, then they are in.  The Campaign Manager for the signature campaign I am in will, on occasion, make a comment on the Google Spread Sheet for a user to "spread out" their posts.  However, this is as close as a CM dares come to exert editorial control over a user's post's content.

I don't include the stipulation that for example five posts each week must be in (for example) the gambling/gaming sections.  But, even then as I said at the start, there is no editorial control over those post's content.

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[Poker Player]

This is the first time I let a thread opened by me continue without locking it after page 5 because I see that there is meaningful discussion.

In this case I want to bring here a quote that I found interesting from the bitvest official thread:

Checking in here after a time. And happy to see owner's responded and paid up what's owed, but yeah, he really needs to do something about hot wallet OR get the manuals approved quicker.

I haven't had problems since the last time I posted in here some months ago though. This week requested 11 LTC and a significant sum of BTC. Both were processed immediately, so I guess hot wallet was working then.
 
There're already so few places left to invest in a casino bankroll. Would be a great shame if this site didn't continue to succeed.

Let's see if the problems with withdrawals also end.

[LoyceV]

Over the short run, it is the campaign managers responsibility to prevent lots of crap posts coming from the campaign. However, if over long periods of time, if a manager allows lots of shit posts, and doesn’t do anything about it, it will reflect negatively on the person who didn’t fire the campaign manager in favor of someone who would address the shit posts.

The manager can only do so much given the pay rate. Rejecting all bad posters would result in an almost empty campaign, and probably replacement of the manager.

I forgot how to check who's on DT2.

Go to any profile he left feedback on, and add ;dt to the URL. If it shows up, he's on DT.
Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2509476;dt

[AB de Royse777]

but I forgot how to check who's on DT2.

You must be getting old. How old you are? 70+ :-P
By the way, is Jet Cash still around?

PS: Yeah, I know I am off-topic LOL

I forgot how to check who's on DT2.

Go to any profile he left feedback on, and add ;dt to the URL. If it shows up, he's on DT.
Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2509476;dt

I guess Pharmacist wanted to know exclusively for DT2 not entire DT (1&2)

It should be like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt
Then check manually.

[Quickseller]

Over the short run, it is the campaign managers responsibility to prevent lots of crap posts coming from the campaign. However, if over long periods of time, if a manager allows lots of shit posts, and doesn’t do anything about it, it will reflect negatively on the person who didn’t fire the campaign manager in favor of someone who would address the shit posts.

The manager can only do so much given the pay rate. Rejecting all bad posters would result in an almost empty campaign, and probably replacement of the manager.

That might be true, but that does not excuse the manager. If the pay rate is too low, he should say something. I do think that Lightlord probably knows what kind of people his low rates are going to attract.

[Mahdirakib]

Let's see if the problems with withdrawals also end.

The withdrawal issue has been resolved. But I got surprised to see ‘Zodiac1233’ (another admin of Bitvest) response in that. He was silent in the forum for years. It means lightlord isn't alone. Zodiac1233 still working with him to run Bitvest. But they aren't showing professionalism to run their business.

Updating.    100% resolved to satisfaction.  Thank you to everyone involved who helped.  
Esp Zodiac.

100% satisfied

[Timelord2067]

But I got surprised to see ‘Zodiac1233’ (another admin of Bitvest) response in that. He was silent in the forum for years. It means lightlord isn't alone. Zodiac1233 still working with him to run Bitvest. But they aren't showing professionalism to run their business.

I've just had a look at Zodiac1233's post history and although they haven't posted for the last four months I can see they have a pattern of coming online every two, three or four months and posting information concerning the back-end operations of the two sites.  This makes me think lightlord is the owner/operator while Zodiac1233 is a third party tech support person given their posts are *just* concerning the two websites.

[Mahdirakib]

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Zodiac1233 previous post was made one year and four months ago (not four months only). lightlord and Zodiac1233 knows each other very well, you can see it in their trust page. It proves that he isn't a third party tech support. Probably Zodiac1233 is deeply engaged with those two websites and he is an admin too.

Another addition is admin badges. Admins will now show up in chat with their role in a badge next to their name.

BTW, Zodiac1233 isn't well known to the forum members as an admin of Bitvest. And this topic is about lightlord behavior. Our discussion is getting out of the track.

[Timelord2067]

Not necessarily - if Zodiac1233 wanted to, they could have come on anytime in the last ten weeks to say their dear friend lightlord was ill, but didn't.  

(Yes, my bad. Zodiac1233 hadn't posted for over twelve months - but in saying so according to BPIP.org, Zodiac1233 hasn't "woken up" so in those more than twelve months Zodiac1233 has been quietly logging in once in a while and doing "stuff" that isn't posting).

you can see it in their trust page

I could say you are a great guy on your trust page, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is true...

(You're a great guy BTW)        

[examplens]

ok, this is really serious. new problems are emerging and what's worse, he ^lightlord ignores it all. at this point, I have more confidence in tranthidung words.
although I have tried to be moderate here and believe that this is a temporary problem, lightlord seems to settle the arrears here only after the pressure from the community.
I really don't see a reason why he doesn't answer and leave a clear statement about what is happening and what its users can expect in the future. ignoring it only makes things worse.

tranthidung

2021-10-20

Reference

I worked for lightlord as a moderator (Telegram, Discord). I trusted him and did not ask for payment each week. He paid me once after 4 weeks. Next 6 weeks. $725 (from 10 July to 13 Aug), no payment. He replied, promised to pay me, then stop replying to my DMs, even he logged in account. After the drama of his campaigns, I respected him for what we had, did not open scam accusation, I sent him a PM again, but he does not respect me, no reply (still actively on the forum). No reply is unacceptable!

[UserU]

Well, the plot thickens. He doesn't seem to mind pissing off them DTs

[Poker Player]

ok, this is really serious. new problems are emerging and what's worse, he ^lightlord ignores it all. at this point, I have more confidence in tranthidung words.
although I have tried to be moderate here and believe that this is a temporary problem, lightlord seems to settle the arrears here only after the pressure from the community.
I really don't see a reason why he doesn't answer and leave a clear statement about what is happening and what its users can expect in the future. ignoring it only makes things worse.

tranthidung

2021-10-20

Reference

I worked for lightlord as a moderator (Telegram, Discord). I trusted him and did not ask for payment each week. He paid me once after 4 weeks. Next 6 weeks. $725 (from 10 July to 13 Aug), no payment. He replied, promised to pay me, then stop replying to my DMs, even he logged in account. After the drama of his campaigns, I respected him for what we had, did not open scam accusation, I sent him a PM again, but he does not respect me, no reply (still actively on the forum). No reply is unacceptable!

Lol. And here I was thinking that maybe from now on everything would change, and that in some months I would perhaps change the feedback to neutral. Facepalm.

Maybe now it will change, but seeing that Lighlord only reacts to pressure and that this has been going on for a long time, I don't think it's wise to change it just because things are going well for a couple of months. We'll see.

I have edited the OP to add this point.

[NotATether]

tranthidung

2021-10-20

Reference

I worked for lightlord as a moderator (Telegram, Discord). I trusted him and did not ask for payment each week. He paid me once after 4 weeks. Next 6 weeks. $725 (from 10 July to 13 Aug), no payment. He replied, promised to pay me, then stop replying to my DMs, even he logged in account. After the drama of his campaigns, I respected him for what we had, did not open scam accusation, I sent him a PM again, but he does not respect me, no reply (still actively on the forum). No reply is unacceptable!

Shit - I really dodged a bullet on that one.

(There was a time when I was about to work with lightlord a few months ago).

[AB de Royse777]

I really don't see a reason why he doesn't answer and leave a clear statement about what is happening and what its users can expect in the future. ignoring it only makes things worse.

From the record, eventually he pays, but I do not understand all these delays. It is not looking good now on LL.

[actmyname]

From the record, eventually he pays, but I do not understand all these delays. It is not looking good now on LL.

Building up a reputation of being late is quite ill-advised.

If business agreements are not fulfilled and are regularly ignored, why would you bother dealing with such an individual? Your expectations are dissolved: there is no point of making any further contractual obligations (including but not exclusively apropos to time) because everything is determined by a single party. May as well be tied up and bent over in an inviting position.

[Rikafip]

I am surprised that people are surprised at his behavior as @The Pharmacist left feedback almost three years ago, stating that he is late with payments and zero fucks given attitude about it, so it's not something new but a thing he consistently does yet people rushed to be hired by him for that Eloncoin crap. Then we laugh at bounty hunters that are getting scammed and mistreated all the time...

@tranthidung since he is more than 2 months late with the payment, as as you said no reply is unacceptable, maybe its time  for more drastic measures as some said that he only sorts stuff out after being pressured, and couple of negative tags doesn't seem like its doing the trick.

[FatFork]

Actually, I'm not as surprised by his constant delays in paying for signature campaigns as by his general attitude towards this community. The way he behaves is irresponsible and disrespectful towards other members. No matter who it is or what his previous contributions have been, everyone here should treat each other with respect.

I'm not sure whether this thread will help bring things to a more positive conclusion, but only lightlord can solve this and make things better by answering and clearly explaining what's going on.

[NotATether]

I am surprised that people are surprised at his behavior as @The Pharmacist left feedback almost three years ago, stating that he is late with payments and zero fucks given attitude about it, so it's not something new but a thing he consistently does yet people rushed to be hired by him for that Eloncoin crap. Then we laugh at bounty hunters that are getting scammed and mistreated all the time...

It's not like he doesn't have money or anything, how else did he pay for those Bitvest/777coin/Eloncoin banner slots all these months? And those things are expensive.

[Rikafip]

It's not like he doesn't have money or anything, how else did he pay for those Bitvest/777coin/Eloncoin banner slots all these months? And those things are expensive.

Of course he has money (most likely), that's not the issue here. It's just that he doesn't care much about being on time with payments and has a long history of doing that, as seen in his trust feedback. So yeah, those willing to work for him should be prepared to be paid at his whim.

I can bet you that even after all this is finally resolved and people get their money, if he launches another shitcoin project and start looking for admins/whatever, bunch of people would apply anyway. It's just how it is here, a lot of members willing to take a risk for a couple of satoshis, like bounty hunters do all the time.

[UserU]

I can bet you that even after all this is finally resolved and people get their money, if he launches another shitcoin project and start looking for admins/whatever, bunch of people would apply anyway. It's just how it is here, a lot of members willing to take a risk for a couple of satoshis, like bounty hunters do all the time.

He favors quantity over quality. The unlimited quota for Bitvest is an example...