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March 09, 2022, 03:17:54 AM
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So be it, this is still as interesting as Inoue vs Casimero. When we thought that Donaire is over the hill already, he shows some brilliance in his last couple of months paving the way for a rematch.

I do hope that the fight will happen in the US, so that there will be no restrictions from fight fans to be able to watch the fight live and for sure the tickets can be sold out and this is one of the most anticipated fight in the lower division.

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March 09, 2022, 03:42:41 PM
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Though I want to see the rematch, but I'd interested to see Casimero vs Inoue first. Donaire is better than Casimero, so he should be in the last fight if Casimero lose from Inoue.

Sounds good but it will derailed their respective timeline.

- Naoya Inoue wants to plan of coming back in June but that was depend on Japan's restriction which from what I read, will be lifted now on April instead of the speculation that it will be on June. Therefore, the Japanese monster might fight right away and Donaire is the best pick for that.

- Casimero will fight Paul Butler next month. if let's say he win, it needs again another 3 months of preparation to fight another boxer. I think 2 months is not enough for Casimero to rest and prepare against Inoue.

- Donaire also don't want to wait hanging for long. If he will be on the final stage, he have to wait until 4Q to face either Casimero and Inoue.

But that's all "what if".

I also read about that speculation, Inoue's target will be on June this year and just like as you said, 2 months of preparation alone won't be enough for Casimero as he needs to rest first after his fight with Butler this April. So the best case scenario is that Inoue will face Donaire first, a rematch. Also, Bob Arum isn't interested in Casimero for now and he definitely another boxer in mind whom he wants to fight with his boy.
Here's the article, but this one was released last January 24, 2022. After that, there's no update about Inoue's next opponet.

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“The Monster’s” ring return is now targeted for June. Unsurprisingly, his main targets are still WBC champ Nonito Donaire and WBO champ John Riel Casimero.
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March 11, 2022, 12:16:51 PM
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So be it, this is still as interesting as Inoue vs Casimero. When we thought that Donaire is over the hill already, he shows some brilliance in his last couple of months paving the way for a rematch.

I do hope that the fight will happen in the US, so that there will be no restrictions from fight fans to be able to watch the fight live and for sure the tickets can be sold out and this is one of the most anticipated fight in the lower division.

We can probably see about Inoue vs Casimero soon after the latter is finish to his fight next month against Butler, and the other possibility is a rematch between Inoue and Donaire since the Japanese boxer have said that he's going back this June. Either way, we'll see some news this coming few weeks or next month.

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March 18, 2022, 05:11:29 PM
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So be it, this is still as interesting as Inoue vs Casimero. When we thought that Donaire is over the hill already, he shows some brilliance in his last couple of months paving the way for a rematch.

I do hope that the fight will happen in the US, so that there will be no restrictions from fight fans to be able to watch the fight live and for sure the tickets can be sold out and this is one of the most anticipated fight in the lower division.

We can probably see about Inoue vs Casimero soon after the latter is finish to his fight next month against Butler, and the other possibility is a rematch between Inoue and Donaire since the Japanese boxer have said that he's going back this June. Either way, we'll see some news this coming few weeks or next month.
I think this match is very interesting, I hope it can take place, although I really wish the GGG vs. Canelo match could take place, it's a fight that looks very interesting, but I don't know how many fights there should be between both boxers and others so that they can get to it, I also have doubts about the fight with Bivol, we all know that he is a Russian boxer and that due to all the sanctions that the world has given to the country, in this particular one they have not pronounced, it will be because of the huge amount of money that moves here? because here there have been no such prohibitions (which seems good to me, I don't see politics) and I hope that it can happen, but will that fight be in check?

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March 18, 2022, 05:20:11 PM
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So be it, this is still as interesting as Inoue vs Casimero. When we thought that Donaire is over the hill already, he shows some brilliance in his last couple of months paving the way for a rematch.

I do hope that the fight will happen in the US, so that there will be no restrictions from fight fans to be able to watch the fight live and for sure the tickets can be sold out and this is one of the most anticipated fight in the lower division.

We can probably see about Inoue vs Casimero soon after the latter is finish to his fight next month against Butler, and the other possibility is a rematch between Inoue and Donaire since the Japanese boxer have said that he's going back this June. Either way, we'll see some news this coming few weeks or next month.
I think this match is very interesting, I hope it can take place, although I really wish the GGG vs. Canelo match could take place, it's a fight that looks very interesting, but I don't know how many fights there should be between both boxers and others so that they can get to it, I also have doubts about the fight with Bivol, we all know that he is a Russian boxer and that due to all the sanctions that the world has given to the country, in this particular one they have not pronounced, it will be because of the huge amount of money that moves here? because here there have been no such prohibitions (which seems good to me, I don't see politics) and I hope that it can happen, but will that fight be in check?


GGG vs Canelo would happen if the rumors are true, but they have to defeat their opponent first in their coming fight. As a fan, all I wish is to see a fight between the best of the best, and GGG vs Canelo is surely one of the best fights to see and of course, our very own Casimero fighting Inoue, that's another treat.

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So be it, this is still as interesting as Inoue vs Casimero. When we thought that Donaire is over the hill already, he shows some brilliance in his last couple of months paving the way for a rematch.

I do hope that the fight will happen in the US, so that there will be no restrictions from fight fans to be able to watch the fight live and for sure the tickets can be sold out and this is one of the most anticipated fight in the lower division.

We can probably see about Inoue vs Casimero soon after the latter is finish to his fight next month against Butler, and the other possibility is a rematch between Inoue and Donaire since the Japanese boxer have said that he's going back this June. Either way, we'll see some news this coming few weeks or next month.
I think this match is very interesting, I hope it can take place, although I really wish the GGG vs. Canelo match could take place, it's a fight that looks very interesting, but I don't know how many fights there should be between both boxers and others so that they can get to it, I also have doubts about the fight with Bivol, we all know that he is a Russian boxer and that due to all the sanctions that the world has given to the country, in this particular one they have not pronounced, it will be because of the huge amount of money that moves here? because here there have been no such prohibitions (which seems good to me, I don't see politics) and I hope that it can happen, but will that fight be in check?


It will definitely happen in the future, Canelo already is opening his mouth about the potential fight. They even have a date already, going to be around September of his year. The sanction is that no fights is going to happen in Russia, but him being a Russian though could post a threat against a fight with Canelo. But we will see, this boxing body is somewhat biased towards Canelo because he is the cash cow so maybe they will allow this fight to happen in May. And we all know that the war doesn't sit with most of the Russians and for sure Bivol could be one of them.
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March 19, 2022, 03:04:42 PM
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GGG vs Canelo would happen if the rumors are true, but they have to defeat their opponent first in their coming fight. As a fan, all I wish is to see a fight between the best of the best, and GGG vs Canelo is surely one of the best fights to see

Actually, that rumor is already not a rumor since likely it will really happen. But first, GGG and Canelo should win in their respective matches against Murata and Bivol. It's a big money fight that even Canelo is not interested anymore in a trilogy, he will accept the offer. It's also a big opportunity for him to silence the doubts that he won the 1st and 2nd matches. Canelo will now be able to seal who's the winner by defeating GGG for the last time.

But GG also has the same goal, to win. Although he's already 40 years at the time of the fight, let's hope that he will still give a difficult fight to Canelo who is currently in his prime.

and of course, our very own Casimero fighting Inoue, that's another treat.

There's already a negotiation between Donaire and Inoue that will likely happen first.

I'd rather see Donaire having revenge win on Inoue before involving Casimero in the discussion.
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Brazilian UFC star to receive fight earnings in BTC. This could be the new trend among the boxers. The UFC fighter Matheus Nicolau has announced that he will be getting his wages in bitcoin in order to fight against inflation. What's more interesting is that his manager Vinícius Las Casas is also impressed by him and he will be receiving some part of his salary in BTCitcoins.

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GGG vs Canelo would happen if the rumors are true, but they have to defeat their opponent first in their coming fight. As a fan, all I wish is to see a fight between the best of the best, and GGG vs Canelo is surely one of the best fights to see

Actually, that rumor is already not a rumor since likely it will really happen. But first, GGG and Canelo should win in their respective matches against Murata and Bivol. It's a big money fight that even Canelo is not interested anymore in a trilogy, he will accept the offer. It's also a big opportunity for him to silence the doubts that he won the 1st and 2nd matches. Canelo will now be able to seal who's the winner by defeating GGG for the last time.

But GG also has the same goal, to win. Although he's already 40 years at the time of the fight, let's hope that he will still give a difficult fight to Canelo who is currently in his prime.

Yup, the rumors have miraculously turned into a reality now because Canelo has been offered and signed a deal with Bivol and of course GGG is included in that deal, now he have no other choice now because he also needs to defeat Bivol. And yes, even if Canelo doesn't want the trilogy, he have the chance now to shut those critics for good and prove it for the 3rd time.

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GGG vs Canelo would happen if the rumors are true, but they have to defeat their opponent first in their coming fight. As a fan, all I wish is to see a fight between the best of the best, and GGG vs Canelo is surely one of the best fights to see

Actually, that rumor is already not a rumor since likely it will really happen. But first, GGG and Canelo should win in their respective matches against Murata and Bivol. It's a big money fight that even Canelo is not interested anymore in a trilogy, he will accept the offer. It's also a big opportunity for him to silence the doubts that he won the 1st and 2nd matches. Canelo will now be able to seal who's the winner by defeating GGG for the last time.

But GG also has the same goal, to win. Although he's already 40 years at the time of the fight, let's hope that he will still give a difficult fight to Canelo who is currently in his prime.

Yup, the rumors have miraculously turned into a reality now because Canelo has been offered and signed a deal with Bivol and of course GGG is included in that deal, now he have no other choice now because he also needs to defeat Bivol. And yes, even if Canelo doesn't want the trilogy, he have the chance now to shut those critics for good and prove it for the 3rd time.

Yeah, when we thought that Canelo will not give any 3rd fight with GGG as he moves to conquer different weight classes, and we have heard that he will go as high as Light HW, comes this surprising news that he will fight Bivol first in May and then will have Canelo in September this year. Perhaps it was all about the money or he just simply wanted to silence his critics for good with a good and very compelling win in the third fight.

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March 23, 2022, 04:17:58 PM
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GGG vs Canelo would happen if the rumors are true, but they have to defeat their opponent first in their coming fight. As a fan, all I wish is to see a fight between the best of the best, and GGG vs Canelo is surely one of the best fights to see

Actually, that rumor is already not a rumor since likely it will really happen. But first, GGG and Canelo should win in their respective matches against Murata and Bivol. It's a big money fight that even Canelo is not interested anymore in a trilogy, he will accept the offer. It's also a big opportunity for him to silence the doubts that he won the 1st and 2nd matches. Canelo will now be able to seal who's the winner by defeating GGG for the last time.

But GG also has the same goal, to win. Although he's already 40 years at the time of the fight, let's hope that he will still give a difficult fight to Canelo who is currently in his prime.

Yup, the rumors have miraculously turned into a reality now because Canelo has been offered and signed a deal with Bivol and of course GGG is included in that deal, now he have no other choice now because he also needs to defeat Bivol. And yes, even if Canelo doesn't want the trilogy, he have the chance now to shut those critics for good and prove it for the 3rd time.

Yeah, when we thought that Canelo will not give any 3rd fight with GGG as he moves to conquer different weight classes, and we have heard that he will go as high as Light HW, comes this surprising news that he will fight Bivol first in May and then will have Canelo in September this year. Perhaps it was all about the money or he just simply wanted to silence his critics for good with a good and very compelling win in the third fight.

Both, the trilogy will surely give them a nice pay cut so I think it's still all about money even if he verbally said that money doesn't give him interest anymore in this trilogy and second is yes he wanted to shut the critics and doubts about the 2nd fight for good and prove that to the people that he is much more dominant than GGG.

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March 24, 2022, 09:00:25 AM
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GGG vs Canelo would happen if the rumors are true, but they have to defeat their opponent first in their coming fight. As a fan, all I wish is to see a fight between the best of the best, and GGG vs Canelo is surely one of the best fights to see

Actually, that rumor is already not a rumor since likely it will really happen. But first, GGG and Canelo should win in their respective matches against Murata and Bivol. It's a big money fight that even Canelo is not interested anymore in a trilogy, he will accept the offer. It's also a big opportunity for him to silence the doubts that he won the 1st and 2nd matches. Canelo will now be able to seal who's the winner by defeating GGG for the last time.

But GG also has the same goal, to win. Although he's already 40 years at the time of the fight, let's hope that he will still give a difficult fight to Canelo who is currently in his prime.

Yup, the rumors have miraculously turned into a reality now because Canelo has been offered and signed a deal with Bivol and of course GGG is included in that deal, now he have no other choice now because he also needs to defeat Bivol. And yes, even if Canelo doesn't want the trilogy, he have the chance now to shut those critics for good and prove it for the 3rd time.

Yeah, when we thought that Canelo will not give any 3rd fight with GGG as he moves to conquer different weight classes, and we have heard that he will go as high as Light HW, comes this surprising news that he will fight Bivol first in May and then will have Canelo in September this year. Perhaps it was all about the money or he just simply wanted to silence his critics for good with a good and very compelling win in the third fight.

Both, the trilogy will surely give them a nice pay cut so I think it's still all about money even if he verbally said that money doesn't give him interest anymore in this trilogy and second is yes he wanted to shut the critics and doubts about the 2nd fight for good and prove that to the people that he is much more dominant than GGG.

This possible mega fight between the GGG and Canelo will be full packed and of course the pay cut will also be better but we already know that Canelo will have the bigger slice. I seriously thinks that the fight's fate is carried by GGG alone than Canelo because if he will be lost against the Japanese fighter then I think that the people wouldn't want to watch the trilogy anymore as it would really be clear that Canelo will win. What do you guys think?

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^^ I think both has pressure to win their fights, so that this mega fight will happen eventually. So if either one of them losses, as you and the other posters have said, the hype will go down a bit.

So its very important to hurdle their fight first, GGG against Murata in Japan, and then Canelo against the reigning LHW champion on Bivol.

And I agree that Canelo will be the A-side in this fight, maybe 70-30 in favor of him.
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^^ I think both has pressure to win their fights, so that this mega fight will happen eventually. So if either one of them losses, as you and the other posters have said, the hype will go down a bit.

So its very important to hurdle their fight first, GGG against Murata in Japan, and then Canelo against the reigning LHW champion on Bivol.

And I agree that Canelo will be the A-side in this fight, maybe 70-30 in favor of him.

70-30 in favor of Canelo Alvarez? Yeah, I think that's fair enough but maybe there would be someone to argue for the 60-40 or at least 6 person out of 10. Either way, both of them have the strengths and power to conquer their respective opponents and I think it's quite safe to say that a trilogy is inevitable this time around. Good luck for the both of them!

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March 25, 2022, 01:53:25 PM
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GGG vs Canelo would happen if the rumors are true, but they have to defeat their opponent first in their coming fight. As a fan, all I wish is to see a fight between the best of the best, and GGG vs Canelo is surely one of the best fights to see

Actually, that rumor is already not a rumor since likely it will really happen. But first, GGG and Canelo should win in their respective matches against Murata and Bivol. It's a big money fight that even Canelo is not interested anymore in a trilogy, he will accept the offer. It's also a big opportunity for him to silence the doubts that he won the 1st and 2nd matches. Canelo will now be able to seal who's the winner by defeating GGG for the last time.

But GG also has the same goal, to win. Although he's already 40 years at the time of the fight, let's hope that he will still give a difficult fight to Canelo who is currently in his prime.

and of course, our very own Casimero fighting Inoue, that's another treat.

There's already a negotiation between Donaire and Inoue that will likely happen first.

I'd rather see Donaire having revenge win on Inoue before involving Casimero in the discussion.

In the event that Canelo and GGG each lose that battle, how would this be? I suppose that for the sponsors it would be a serious problem and even more so if it represents a loss of money for them, where one of these boxers makes a single mistake and they lose, I don't think the match will take place, this forces the boxers who necessarily have to win .
On the other hand, the fight with Bivol continues to intrigue me, what the organizers will say because they know very well that it is of a Russian nature, this is something that has me thinking, because at any moment they can delay that event or simply not happen, the organizers Will they go over the sanctions and betos for Russian boxers too?

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^^ I think both has pressure to win their fights, so that this mega fight will happen eventually. So if either one of them losses, as you and the other posters have said, the hype will go down a bit.

So its very important to hurdle their fight first, GGG against Murata in Japan, and then Canelo against the reigning LHW champion on Bivol.

And I agree that Canelo will be the A-side in this fight, maybe 70-30 in favor of him.

70-30 in favor of Canelo Alvarez? Yeah, I think that's fair enough but maybe there would be someone to argue for the 60-40 or at least 6 person out of 10. Either way, both of them have the strengths and power to conquer their respective opponents and I think it's quite safe to say that a trilogy is inevitable this time around. Good luck for the both of them!

I also agree, a 60-40 or 70-30 split in favor of Canelo will be appropriate and I think GGG can't complain about it as well. He doesn't have a bargaining power in the table, he just need to win, and wait for Canelo and then hard for the trilogy.

And he is lucky that Canelo has finally agreeing with the third fight. I personally thought that it is a dead end already. But now its inevitable, the two will clash on a schedule Sept, and it's going to be a fierce contest.

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And he is lucky that Canelo has finally agreeing with the third fight. I personally thought that it is a dead end already. But now its inevitable, the two will clash on a schedule Sept, and it's going to be a fierce contest.

Nope. Canelo is the one lucky since it's a big money waiting for him. What after GGG is just to seal the doubts of the two previous fights.

70-30 split might be possible as Canelo is currently on his peak. But from what I see it will sound unfair to both parties and it will end up on a 60-40 split.

GGG currently holds a title and if he beat Murata, he will hold another one. Canelo is a spoiled brat if he will still ask a 70-30 split unless their fight won't be sanctioned as a non-title fight.
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In the event that Canelo and GGG each lose that battle, how would this be? I suppose that for the sponsors it would be a serious problem and even more so if it represents a loss of money for them, where one of these boxers makes a single mistake and they lose, I don't think the match will take place, this forces the boxers who necessarily have to win .

A good question. Canelo and GGG's upcoming fight is the ticket for the trilogy.

But if ever they will lose, the fight will still happen to satisfy the massive request for the community.

There's still big money that will generate as people will already move on right away on their supposed loss 5-6 months after their respective last fight. It will totally be forgotten and all will focus on the trilogy.
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On the other hand, the fight with Bivol continues to intrigue me, what the organizers will say because they know very well that it is of a Russian nature, this is something that has me thinking, because at any moment they can delay that event or simply not happen, the organizers Will they go over the sanctions and betos for Russian boxers too?

Still no update regarding that. But as far as the progress are concerned, looks like the fight will happen as what is supposed to be. No sanctions and it will be an official title fight. They should not involve the match that was already prepared for long to pressure Vladimir Putin.

The fight must go on regardless of the status of what's happening in Ukraine and Russia. Many fans already waiting for the first advancement of Canelo in moving up. Fans also waiting if Bivol will now taste the first defeat of his boxing career.

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^^ I think both has pressure to win their fights, so that this mega fight will happen eventually. So if either one of them losses, as you and the other posters have said, the hype will go down a bit.

So its very important to hurdle their fight first, GGG against Murata in Japan, and then Canelo against the reigning LHW champion on Bivol.

And I agree that Canelo will be the A-side in this fight, maybe 70-30 in favor of him.

As far as I can see, even Canelo and GGG will lose their upcoming fight, the impact and excitement is still there when they faced for a third time. It's a fight that everyone anticipated to happen for a long. To settle everything and it seems it's now likely happening, a third match is necessary to negotiate.

Just seems concerned to GGG here how he can deal with the prime Canelo if he will lose to Murata that is not even in his league.

About the split, 70-30 split is too much. Canelo is too overrated if that will be the final split.

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