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June 10, 2022, 08:32:24 AM
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It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.

Yes, saw that scheduled fight but the odds though. Nevertheless, I don't think that Inoue will go up in weight. Too early for him, and knowing that he is under Bob Arum, I doubt that he will allow his cash cow to immediately jump on the next weight unless he is very sure that he can take Fulton out or any of the champion in that division. So let Fulton battered Roman this weekend, and his chance to win are high because obviously he is the favorite.

It does not look too early for the Monster Inoue to move up in weight division and challenge Fulton after what we witnessed versus Donaire yesterday. It also certainly appears that Inuoe has improved since their first fight and will improve more. He is also 29 years old already. That is not very young for the sport of boxing. It is the right time for him to find new challenges in his career.

He still has one Filipino on his hit list and that is Casimero, hehehe. This could be a good fight in paper as he is brandish and trash talk Inoue prior. But not sure if Top Rank is willing to give Casimero his fight since he no longer has any belt for now.

I move up to fight Fulton is not that bad at all, as you have said, timing is just about right. If Inoue wanted to be recognized as one of the best in this generation then he should look for new challenge and that is going up in weight. Pacquiao proved that already and he sets the bar high that no one can touch what he reach. But others can try to go as high and see their limits. Like in the case of Canelo 175 lbs might be too much for him. But for Inoue, we don't know how far can he go.

However, before Inoue can consider Casimero's challenge, I reckon Casimero should first win his WBO bantamweight championship back by challenging Paul Butler. Inoue might be now on a different stage in his career where his next fight will be to challenge the champions of the super bantamweight division or become the undisputed champion in bantamweight.

Also, with what Inoue has shown, I speculate he can knockout Casimero within 6.5 rounds. Inoue might become the pound for pound best boxer within 3 years.

Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

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June 10, 2022, 09:16:56 PM
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Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

There's a possibility that it can happen and it will pave the way for an Inoue - Casimero match, its a much better match-up than the Inoue Butler match, it will be an easy win for Inoue, Casimero is again taunting Inoue to fight him claiming that he will take revenge to what happened to Donaire and he also claims to be the strongest fighter in that division which is, of course, doubtful, everybody knows Inoue is the strongest.

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Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

There's a possibility that it can happen and it will pave the way for an Inoue - Casimero match, its a much better match-up than the Inoue Butler match, it will be an easy win for Inoue, Casimero is again taunting Inoue to fight him claiming that he will take revenge to what happened to Donaire and he also claims to be the strongest fighter in that division which is, of course, doubtful, everybody knows Inoue is the strongest.

Yes, this could be a good route for Casimero and this is the only chance he can go to Inoue. Hopefully Richard Schaefer will match him with Butler first as they are in the same roof. And then when Casimero wins this fight, go taunt Inoue more and let Arum match them up. There is no blood bath between Schaefer and Arum so this match can easily be made and this could be the biggest fight in bantamweight as this is another unification fight, all belts + lineal championship.

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June 10, 2022, 11:59:03 PM
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Not much is heard about this fight,

Munguia vs Kelly

If you not familiar with Munguia, this kid is one of the future of Mexican boxing,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659924

He is supposed to fight and take a shot at at WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo, but the negotiations fall apart as what network is going to cover the match.

Now is is fighting Kelly at a catchweight of 165 lbs and this is the heaviest that he has been in his career. And as per sport bookies he is like 1.02-1.03 odds favorites. Maybe this is just one of those get busy fight for him and testing if he can go as high as 168 lbs in the future.

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June 11, 2022, 01:11:33 AM
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^^ Yeah, I heard his name and there are reports that he is being avoided by boxer from 160 lbs. Damn, a fight with Charlo will be a classic war, both at their prime.

Unfortunately, network wars as boxing is a billion dollar business, no one want's to move at inch. Greedy executives. Anyhow, as we look at the odds, he seems to be the outright winner already. So the question is, who is he going to fight next again?

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June 11, 2022, 01:22:41 AM
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Not much is heard about this fight,

Munguia vs Kelly

If you not familiar with Munguia, this kid is one of the future of Mexican boxing,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659924

He is supposed to fight and take a shot at at WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo, but the negotiations fall apart as what network is going to cover the match.

Now is is fighting Kelly at a catchweight of 165 lbs and this is the heaviest that he has been in his career. And as per sport bookies he is like 1.02-1.03 odds favorites. Maybe this is just one of those get busy fight for him and testing if he can go as high as 168 lbs in the future.

I have seen a lot of Munguia's fights and he is very ripe for a championship fight, he is very popular in Mexico and he has the making of a superstar and FYI he is being managed by hall of Famer Eric Morales, its unfortunate that the fight against Charlo did not push through, I'm sure Munguia will get a knock out against Kelly I like his style he is a combination of power and grace inside the ring, he loves to go to the body and his left hook is his best weapon.

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June 11, 2022, 01:39:53 AM
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Not much is heard about this fight,

Munguia vs Kelly

If you not familiar with Munguia, this kid is one of the future of Mexican boxing,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659924

He is supposed to fight and take a shot at at WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo, but the negotiations fall apart as what network is going to cover the match.

Now is is fighting Kelly at a catchweight of 165 lbs and this is the heaviest that he has been in his career. And as per sport bookies he is like 1.02-1.03 odds favorites. Maybe this is just one of those get busy fight for him and testing if he can go as high as 168 lbs in the future.

I have seen a lot of Munguia's fights and he is very ripe for a championship fight, he is very popular in Mexico and he has the making of a superstar and FYI he is being managed by hall of Famer Eric Morales, its unfortunate that the fight against Charlo did not push through, I'm sure Munguia will get a knock out against Kelly I like his style he is a combination of power and grace inside the ring, he loves to go to the body and his left hook is his best weapon.

I heard a lot of good  things from this kid, but I didn't know that he is being managed by El Terrible Morales. So that is good though, high KO percentage no wonder why they don't want to messed with him. Probably following the footsteps of Canelo but he need to step up and get good competition in his name. Yes, As I have said, chances are with the KO percentage, most likely Kelly will not last the full 12 rounds and could get knock out. So let's see if he can bring that power at 168 lbs as there are a lot of competition in that weight category.

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June 11, 2022, 08:48:38 AM
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Anyone wanted to see a war? Hiroto Kyoguchi vs. Esteban Bermudez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqvpBZCOs7Q

Kyoguchi won as he batters Bermudez in Mexico and defends his WBA 'Super' junior flyweight title.

But as you can see, it's clearly biased, the way I look at it. Referee deducting points from the Japanese fighter and it seems the ring physician still allow Bermudez to continue despite that opening from his temple. Nevertheless, Kyoguchi was not deterred and stop Bermudez in round 8.


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It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.

Yes, saw that scheduled fight but the odds though. Nevertheless, I don't think that Inoue will go up in weight. Too early for him, and knowing that he is under Bob Arum, I doubt that he will allow his cash cow to immediately jump on the next weight unless he is very sure that he can take Fulton out or any of the champion in that division. So let Fulton battered Roman this weekend, and his chance to win are high because obviously he is the favorite.

It does not look too early for the Monster Inoue to move up in weight division and challenge Fulton after what we witnessed versus Donaire yesterday. It also certainly appears that Inuoe has improved since their first fight and will improve more. He is also 29 years old already. That is not very young for the sport of boxing. It is the right time for him to find new challenges in his career.

He still has one Filipino on his hit list and that is Casimero, hehehe. This could be a good fight in paper as he is brandish and trash talk Inoue prior. But not sure if Top Rank is willing to give Casimero his fight since he no longer has any belt for now.

I move up to fight Fulton is not that bad at all, as you have said, timing is just about right. If Inoue wanted to be recognized as one of the best in this generation then he should look for new challenge and that is going up in weight. Pacquiao proved that already and he sets the bar high that no one can touch what he reach. But others can try to go as high and see their limits. Like in the case of Canelo 175 lbs might be too much for him. But for Inoue, we don't know how far can he go.

However, before Inoue can consider Casimero's challenge, I reckon Casimero should first win his WBO bantamweight championship back by challenging Paul Butler. Inoue might be now on a different stage in his career where his next fight will be to challenge the champions of the super bantamweight division or become the undisputed champion in bantamweight.

Also, with what Inoue has shown, I speculate he can knockout Casimero within 6.5 rounds. Inoue might become the pound for pound best boxer within 3 years.

Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

If I'm not mistaken, Nonito Donaire is also under the banner of Probellum. They have 3 boxers in the same division fighting with each other namely Donaire, Casimero and Butler.

Casimero should move to other promoter like MP Promotions, however, it seems that Casimero is not in good terms with Sean Gibbons but Casimero should be in the same banner with Magsayo. Anyway, I agree that should be busy building his name again because he is not back from scratch because of that incident.

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June 12, 2022, 02:53:33 AM
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Anyone wanted to see a war? Hiroto Kyoguchi vs. Esteban Bermudez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqvpBZCOs7Q

Kyoguchi won as he batters Bermudez in Mexico and defends his WBA 'Super' junior flyweight title.

But as you can see, it's clearly biased, the way I look at it. Referee deducting points from the Japanese fighter and it seems the ring physician still allow Bermudez to continue despite that opening from his temple. Nevertheless, Kyoguchi was not deterred and stop Bermudez in round 8.

The referee is also very tentative in his decision, no warning, he just deducted a point for low blow from Kyoguchi while Bermudez is throwing low blow as well.

Anyhow, it's good that the Japanese still won, I can't imagine if it goes to the judges scorecard and who knows, there could be some home cook decision. I read some interviews of Kyoguchi that he was inspired by Inoue's knocking out Donaire 3 days ago that's why he went like a 'monster' in this fight.

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June 12, 2022, 01:47:35 PM
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Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

I wish that was easy the offense that John Riel Casimero did, in cutting his weight has caused him his fight and his belt because he uses a sauna that was against the rules, I really don't know if there is still a chance that Casimero will get back the title belt that Paul Butler had taken to him, Jonas Sultan was the replacement of Casimero, against Butler, and we all know that Jonas Sultan has defeated Casimero once, so when Paul Butler defeated Sultan he also though the same outcome would happen if he faced Casimero, But I highly doubted that because I really think if there would be a John Riel Casimero VS Jonas Sultan rematch I think that Casimero will win that because I think he already surpasses Sultan in giving a great fight against Zolani Tete, given a loss to Duke Micah and Guillermo Rigondeaux, I sure wish a match against Butler will be a great start for Casimero, and please I wish he doesn't do something stupid again.


There's a possibility that it can happen and it will pave the way for an Inoue - Casimero match, its a much better match-up than the Inoue Butler match, it will be an easy win for Inoue, Casimero is again taunting Inoue to fight him claiming that he will take revenge to what happened to Donaire and he also claims to be the strongest fighter in that division which is, of course, doubtful, everybody knows Inoue is the strongest.

It could be a good route for John Riel Casimero and it could also be a great end for him, Naoya Inoue just got level up in terms of his speed and punching power, and again I doubt if the WBO would approve that fight to happen despite what happens with the Paul Butler incident that he uses a sauna to reduce weight it is surely against the rules and because of that they might halt every fight of Casimero for now, but I am still wishing about it happening, I surely belive in the power of Inoue, but for a Filipino boxer winning, I think Casimero has a better chance, 
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June 12, 2022, 10:31:41 PM
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Not much is heard about this fight,

Munguia vs Kelly

If you not familiar with Munguia, this kid is one of the future of Mexican boxing,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659924

He is supposed to fight and take a shot at at WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo, but the negotiations fall apart as what network is going to cover the match.

Now is is fighting Kelly at a catchweight of 165 lbs and this is the heaviest that he has been in his career. And as per sport bookies he is like 1.02-1.03 odds favorites. Maybe this is just one of those get busy fight for him and testing if he can go as high as 168 lbs in the future.

I have seen a lot of Munguia's fights and he is very ripe for a championship fight, he is very popular in Mexico and he has the making of a superstar and FYI he is being managed by hall of Famer Eric Morales, its unfortunate that the fight against Charlo did not push through, I'm sure Munguia will get a knock out against Kelly I like his style he is a combination of power and grace inside the ring, he loves to go to the body and his left hook is his best weapon.

I heard a lot of good  things from this kid, but I didn't know that he is being managed by El Terrible Morales. So that is good though, high KO percentage no wonder why they don't want to messed with him. Probably following the footsteps of Canelo but he need to step up and get good competition in his name. Yes, As I have said, chances are with the KO percentage, most likely Kelly will not last the full 12 rounds and could get knock out. So let's see if he can bring that power at 168 lbs as there are a lot of competition in that weight category.

Fight hightlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U51QNdJHIZE

It took Munguia 5 rounds to figure out and deliver that knock out punch and shows his power. Knock him down 3x. Respect for Kelly though, he was boxing perfectly until he was caught and it was over for him. The power of Munguia is in full display in this fight, upper cuts, left hooks. He will could a serious threat to Charlo at 160 lbs. And hopefully they can sit down and make the fight happen next year.

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June 13, 2022, 12:18:20 AM
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Not much is heard about this fight,

Munguia vs Kelly

If you not familiar with Munguia, this kid is one of the future of Mexican boxing,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659924

He is supposed to fight and take a shot at at WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo, but the negotiations fall apart as what network is going to cover the match.

Now is is fighting Kelly at a catchweight of 165 lbs and this is the heaviest that he has been in his career. And as per sport bookies he is like 1.02-1.03 odds favorites. Maybe this is just one of those get busy fight for him and testing if he can go as high as 168 lbs in the future.

I have seen a lot of Munguia's fights and he is very ripe for a championship fight, he is very popular in Mexico and he has the making of a superstar and FYI he is being managed by hall of Famer Eric Morales, its unfortunate that the fight against Charlo did not push through, I'm sure Munguia will get a knock out against Kelly I like his style he is a combination of power and grace inside the ring, he loves to go to the body and his left hook is his best weapon.

I heard a lot of good  things from this kid, but I didn't know that he is being managed by El Terrible Morales. So that is good though, high KO percentage no wonder why they don't want to messed with him. Probably following the footsteps of Canelo but he need to step up and get good competition in his name. Yes, As I have said, chances are with the KO percentage, most likely Kelly will not last the full 12 rounds and could get knock out. So let's see if he can bring that power at 168 lbs as there are a lot of competition in that weight category.

Fight hightlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U51QNdJHIZE

It took Munguia 5 rounds to figure out and deliver that knock out punch and shows his power. Knock him down 3x. Respect for Kelly though, he was boxing perfectly until he was caught and it was over for him. The power of Munguia is in full display in this fight, upper cuts, left hooks. He will could a serious threat to Charlo at 160 lbs. And hopefully they can sit down and make the fight happen next year.

I was just about right, the fight didn't go to distance, but Kelly has a big heart in this fight and it took Munguia a lot of rounds to be able to clipped Kelly and finished him out.

However, not sure if this peformance could fair against a good technical boxer and has power like Charlo. Sure, Munguia has serious power too, but Charlo can play defense. And if ever this two fights, I would favored Charlo to win and test Munguia chin in the process.

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June 13, 2022, 02:25:31 AM
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It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.

Yes, saw that scheduled fight but the odds though. Nevertheless, I don't think that Inoue will go up in weight. Too early for him, and knowing that he is under Bob Arum, I doubt that he will allow his cash cow to immediately jump on the next weight unless he is very sure that he can take Fulton out or any of the champion in that division. So let Fulton battered Roman this weekend, and his chance to win are high because obviously he is the favorite.

It does not look too early for the Monster Inoue to move up in weight division and challenge Fulton after what we witnessed versus Donaire yesterday. It also certainly appears that Inuoe has improved since their first fight and will improve more. He is also 29 years old already. That is not very young for the sport of boxing. It is the right time for him to find new challenges in his career.

He still has one Filipino on his hit list and that is Casimero, hehehe. This could be a good fight in paper as he is brandish and trash talk Inoue prior. But not sure if Top Rank is willing to give Casimero his fight since he no longer has any belt for now.

I move up to fight Fulton is not that bad at all, as you have said, timing is just about right. If Inoue wanted to be recognized as one of the best in this generation then he should look for new challenge and that is going up in weight. Pacquiao proved that already and he sets the bar high that no one can touch what he reach. But others can try to go as high and see their limits. Like in the case of Canelo 175 lbs might be too much for him. But for Inoue, we don't know how far can he go.

However, before Inoue can consider Casimero's challenge, I reckon Casimero should first win his WBO bantamweight championship back by challenging Paul Butler. Inoue might be now on a different stage in his career where his next fight will be to challenge the champions of the super bantamweight division or become the undisputed champion in bantamweight.

Also, with what Inoue has shown, I speculate he can knockout Casimero within 6.5 rounds. Inoue might become the pound for pound best boxer within 3 years.

Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

I reckon he should be the first one to be given an opportunity as the challenger. This is because it is his own belt hehehe. He never lost it versus anyone. Casimero's management should fight for their client's right as the no.1 WBO bantamweight contender considering that it appears that Butler has already shown his interest on Inoue for a unification. For boxing fans it might be a better storyline if a Filipino challenges Inoue as the avenger of his fellow Filipino hehehe.

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June 13, 2022, 05:57:18 AM
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5 next days, we will see a both championship on light heavyweight division will defending his own belt to collect more belt. Artur Beterbiev who own WBC and IBF belts vs Joe Smith Jr. who own WBO belt, anyone who win will face Dmitry Bivol who own the last belt e.g. WBA. I'm expecting Artur Beterbiev will win via KO against Joe Smith Jr. since he have 100% KO record. Joe Smith Jr ever lose against Bivol on 3 years ago, so he's the weakest champion on the light heavyweight division.

Honestly I'm more interested if Bivol will fight against Beterbiev in the future since whoever will win become an undisputed champion.

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June 13, 2022, 06:08:27 AM
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Honestly I'm more interested if Bivol will fight against Beterbiev in the future since whoever will win become an undisputed champion.

I am also interested now, before Canelo challenge name, I have no idea about the champions on the division of Bivol but after the fight, I realize that there are plenty of exciting fighters in a higher division, I just got so hype with Canelo and now I'm hype again with the Canelo vs GGG trilogy.

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June 13, 2022, 06:21:16 AM
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It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.

Yes, saw that scheduled fight but the odds though. Nevertheless, I don't think that Inoue will go up in weight. Too early for him, and knowing that he is under Bob Arum, I doubt that he will allow his cash cow to immediately jump on the next weight unless he is very sure that he can take Fulton out or any of the champion in that division. So let Fulton battered Roman this weekend, and his chance to win are high because obviously he is the favorite.

It does not look too early for the Monster Inoue to move up in weight division and challenge Fulton after what we witnessed versus Donaire yesterday. It also certainly appears that Inuoe has improved since their first fight and will improve more. He is also 29 years old already. That is not very young for the sport of boxing. It is the right time for him to find new challenges in his career.

He still has one Filipino on his hit list and that is Casimero, hehehe. This could be a good fight in paper as he is brandish and trash talk Inoue prior. But not sure if Top Rank is willing to give Casimero his fight since he no longer has any belt for now.

I move up to fight Fulton is not that bad at all, as you have said, timing is just about right. If Inoue wanted to be recognized as one of the best in this generation then he should look for new challenge and that is going up in weight. Pacquiao proved that already and he sets the bar high that no one can touch what he reach. But others can try to go as high and see their limits. Like in the case of Canelo 175 lbs might be too much for him. But for Inoue, we don't know how far can he go.

However, before Inoue can consider Casimero's challenge, I reckon Casimero should first win his WBO bantamweight championship back by challenging Paul Butler. Inoue might be now on a different stage in his career where his next fight will be to challenge the champions of the super bantamweight division or become the undisputed champion in bantamweight.

Also, with what Inoue has shown, I speculate he can knockout Casimero within 6.5 rounds. Inoue might become the pound for pound best boxer within 3 years.

Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

I reckon he should be the first one to be given an opportunity as the challenger. This is because it is his own belt hehehe. He never lost it versus anyone. Casimero's management should fight for their client's right as the no.1 WBO bantamweight contender considering that it appears that Butler has already shown his interest on Inoue for a unification. For boxing fans it might be a better storyline if a Filipino challenges Inoue as the avenger of his fellow Filipino hehehe.

Yes, hopefully and again this is a good fight to begin with. There is already a story line behind, as they supposed to face each other and they have been trash talking as well prior to Casimero not making it and been stripped. And money wise, it will be in house fight.

I'm sure Bob Arum and Inoue can wait and see who the winner is. And then fight him next year before he can move up in weight if he decided too.


Honestly I'm more interested if Bivol will fight against Beterbiev in the future since whoever will win become an undisputed champion.

I am also interested now, before Canelo challenge name, I have no idea about the champions on the division of Bivol but after the fight, I realize that there are plenty of exciting fighters in a higher division, I just got so hype with Canelo and now I'm hype again with the Canelo vs GGG trilogy.

Beterviev and Bivol though are dominating the light heavyweight for the last 2-3 years. So I agree that they should also face each other for unification. I think Canelo chooses what he thinks is the less riskier, but Bivol is very good and I think it will be a close fight between Arthur and him.

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June 13, 2022, 12:11:38 PM
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Honestly, I'm more interested if Bivol will fight against Beterbiev in the future since whoever will win become an undisputed champion.


That's a great fight to see if we have Spence and Crawford in the welterweight they are the light heavyweight version, they are knocking out the opposition and I believe if they held a tournament these two are going to be the two last men standing, both are offense-oriented are not afraid to engage and, Bivol Beterbiev are two great match up and promoters should make this fight happens.


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June 13, 2022, 03:55:18 PM
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Honestly I'm more interested if Bivol will fight against Beterbiev in the future since whoever will win become an undisputed champion.

I am also interested now, before Canelo challenge name, I have no idea about the champions on the division of Bivol but after the fight, I realize that there are plenty of exciting fighters in a higher division, I just got so hype with Canelo and now I'm hype again with the Canelo vs GGG trilogy.

Yes same here, I didn't even know that Dmitrii Bivol was this good because he managed to put Canelo Alvarez on his place. I know that Bivol is a champion but I don't watch the fights in this division but when I saw him fighting against Canelo and defeated him makes me see more fights in this division. Especially this Artur Beterbiev who have a 100% KO rate with the same nationality of Bivol.

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June 13, 2022, 06:48:24 PM
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It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.

Yes, saw that scheduled fight but the odds though. Nevertheless, I don't think that Inoue will go up in weight. Too early for him, and knowing that he is under Bob Arum, I doubt that he will allow his cash cow to immediately jump on the next weight unless he is very sure that he can take Fulton out or any of the champion in that division. So let Fulton battered Roman this weekend, and his chance to win are high because obviously he is the favorite.

It does not look too early for the Monster Inoue to move up in weight division and challenge Fulton after what we witnessed versus Donaire yesterday. It also certainly appears that Inuoe has improved since their first fight and will improve more. He is also 29 years old already. That is not very young for the sport of boxing. It is the right time for him to find new challenges in his career.

He still has one Filipino on his hit list and that is Casimero, hehehe. This could be a good fight in paper as he is brandish and trash talk Inoue prior. But not sure if Top Rank is willing to give Casimero his fight since he no longer has any belt for now.

I move up to fight Fulton is not that bad at all, as you have said, timing is just about right. If Inoue wanted to be recognized as one of the best in this generation then he should look for new challenge and that is going up in weight. Pacquiao proved that already and he sets the bar high that no one can touch what he reach. But others can try to go as high and see their limits. Like in the case of Canelo 175 lbs might be too much for him. But for Inoue, we don't know how far can he go.

However, before Inoue can consider Casimero's challenge, I reckon Casimero should first win his WBO bantamweight championship back by challenging Paul Butler. Inoue might be now on a different stage in his career where his next fight will be to challenge the champions of the super bantamweight division or become the undisputed champion in bantamweight.

Also, with what Inoue has shown, I speculate he can knockout Casimero within 6.5 rounds. Inoue might become the pound for pound best boxer within 3 years.

Yeah, before I forgot, Casimero and Butler is under one promotional banner, Probellum. So maybe John Riel might be given the first option to crack Butler, after all they've schedule to fight but we all know what happens to Casimero in the last minute.

So in that scenario, Casimero vs Butler, winner gets Inoue for unification.

And I do agree, that Inoue is too good for this division and Casimero might not last 6 rounds against the Monster. But let's see what the future brings for Casimero first. He need to build his name again in the division.

I reckon he should be the first one to be given an opportunity as the challenger. This is because it is his own belt hehehe. He never lost it versus anyone. Casimero's management should fight for their client's right as the no.1 WBO bantamweight contender considering that it appears that Butler has already shown his interest on Inoue for a unification. For boxing fans it might be a better storyline if a Filipino challenges Inoue as the avenger of his fellow Filipino hehehe.

Yes, hopefully and again this is a good fight to begin with. There is already a story line behind, as they supposed to face each other and they have been trash talking as well prior to Casimero not making it and been stripped. And money wise, it will be in house fight.

I'm sure Bob Arum and Inoue can wait and see who the winner is. And then fight him next year before he can move up in weight if he decided too.

Lots of expectation and surely it will happen if only Casimero don't have any issue in his weight, he could've fight Inoue this year because I know that Casimero won't have much trouble defeating Paul Butler. Unfortunately, Casimero is a bit too far to be in line against Inoue now and the latter's camp and Bob Arum won't be interested with it, sure money is not a problem but I'm sure Bob also want to give Inoue some freedom and that is to fight Butler next because Bob could lose Inoue he will continue to decide everything for him.

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