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September 24, 2022, 10:50:58 AM
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For  those who are interested on the PPV numbers regarding Canelo vs GGG fight.

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As Saul “Canelo” Alvarez ultimately outboxed Gennadiy “GGG” Golovkin this past weekend to bring one of the most compelling rivalries in sport to an end, DAZN Group has confirmed the Canelo vs. GGG III fight night saw a global audience in the millions, with more than 1.06 million buys generated worldwide including PPV and DAZN subscriptions.

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What do you guys think of the numbers?

I was thinking that the numbers will go high as this is the last fight of their trilogy and I was predicting that US audience alone could be around this ball park number. But this is globally already, and if I'm not mistaken the 2nd fight generated 1.1 buys and the rematch 1.2 buys.

The Canelo - GGG fight had gathered a lot of attention.  Even non-fans of the two become curious so I think the given numbers are true, there might be some discrepancy but I think it is negligible.  I also think that it should be more than the numbers since there is a possibility of late reports from their affiliates and other contacts.


I think otherwise though, if it has gathered a lot of attention for casual fans then the numbers should be high. But it is less than the two previous fight. There are also reports that they just got break even about the numbers it did because they have to pay more than $60-$70 million for this two fighters.

I don't think there will be late reports though, the numbers could be around that, give or take. And I also agree that free streamers could have kill or has been killing their business before they provided it for free around the world.

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I agree, Manny always gives funds to charity via his own pocket.  Often times he offers help and does not need to ask someone for funding, unlike those media company who always ask for a donation and claim the charity donations as theirs. 

But of course, it is always better to have funding outside the riches we have and I think Manny also thinks the same.  The exhibition match doesn't only give him the opportunity to showcase his skills, entertain his fans, and play the sports he is always fond of, but he can also gather extra funding for his charity projects.  It is like hitting multiple birds in one stone.


That means he doesn't want to give his own money that he has now, but rather getting money on an exhibition is viable, but let's not really get the wrong idea for Manny Pacquaio as I am saying can always do the charity work even without those fights, but just like you have said that I surely agree because Manny Pacquiao still want to fight inside the ring and do Charity at the same time and as you have said hitting multiple birds at the same time,

But Moving on Manny Pacquiao will have his 1st fight in December and it is against DK Yoo, and if you have watched DK Yoo fight in an Exhibition match against Bradley Scott we can see that DK Yoo doesn't really have experience in a real fight and all of what he is doing are just for show, he is a complete amateur in boxing, and Pacman Agaisnt DK Yoo will be a very fast fight, but for Jaber Zayani that will surely not treat this as an Exhibition fight but rather a true boxing fight, I think Pacquiao will be having a hard time with Zayani, but knowing Pacman, then he will not be merciful,


The election's done and that's why he's up for matches again. I don't think it's a good capitalization if he's going to do it for that agenda and he's lost already and accepted that he can reach that ambition.

That's why, he's choosing where he's better and where people love him more.

Maybe, about the recovery of some expenditures. There's a likely that he's trying to do that because of how huge his campaign funds was used and it's part of his entire wealth.

Well maybe you are right and the number of recovered will surely increase and likely a respect for people that are making bad reputation for themselves, and I think that I can put this together so I have exhibited
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September 24, 2022, 07:10:07 PM
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No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

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September 24, 2022, 07:16:22 PM
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No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

Don't have any idea about that but considering that Bivol has his own upcoming fight, it might not be him for this year. But if it's coming next year, the chance of him and Canelo to have their rematch is possible if Bivol will take down Zurdo. We might see Canelo's camp to pursue that intention to have the rematch, for sure it might be more money for both fighters even this time Bivol can ask for more cut compared to what he got last time.

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September 24, 2022, 07:35:57 PM
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No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Canelo having a rematch against Bivol is always on the table, I believe it is also written on their first match contract that a rematch is viable when needed.  I think it will be an interesting fight to see a rematch between the two and I am curious on the strategy Canelo's camp will implement to adjust to Bivol's strategy during their last fight.


Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

I think DAZN has 3 fight deal for Canelo, you already stated the two boxer, the third boxer is either of the two, Ilunga Makabu or John Ryder ( more inclined on Makabu).   It was stated in this article[1]

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According to Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn, the third fight for Canelo in December will be Ilunga Makabu or John Ryder. While some boxing fans will see those two as unworthy of
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For DAZN subscribers accustomed to watching boxing as part of their monthly subscription, they’re not going to be pleased having to shell out $60 to watch Canelo fight on PPV against Bivol, Golovkin, and possibly Makabu.



[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/365688/


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September 24, 2022, 08:15:00 PM
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No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

Don't have any idea about that but considering that Bivol has his own upcoming fight, it might not be him for this year. But if it's coming next year, the chance of him and Canelo to have their rematch is possible if Bivol will take down Zurdo. We might see Canelo's camp to pursue that intention to have the rematch, for sure it might be more money for both fighters even this time Bivol can ask for more cut compared to what he got last time.

with Canelo's win over GGG, wondering here if he will still be the favourite if he fights Bivol. because last time, bivol was underdog. so am thinking that bookies may favour canelo here. but the odds will be tight. this will be an interesting re-match if this will happen early next year. since bivol is the belt holder, high likely that he will get the bigger cut over canelo.

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September 24, 2022, 08:20:15 PM
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No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

Don't have any idea about that but considering that Bivol has his own upcoming fight, it might not be him for this year. But if it's coming next year, the chance of him and Canelo to have their rematch is possible if Bivol will take down Zurdo. We might see Canelo's camp to pursue that intention to have the rematch, for sure it might be more money for both fighters even this time Bivol can ask for more cut compared to what he got last time.

with Canelo's win over GGG, wondering here if he will still be the favourite if he fights Bivol. because last time, bivol was underdog. so am thinking that bookies may favour canelo here. but the odds will be tight. this will be an interesting re-match if this will happen early next year. since bivol is the belt holder, high likely that he will get the bigger cut over canelo.

I think he will still be the favorite against Bivol in this will have their rematch, although it might be closer this time, specially if Bivol will win by knockout against Ramirez or if he dominates him just like how he beat Canelo.

So it's important for Bivol to show another great performance so that he will be fighting Canelo next. And for sure I'm thinking that it will be greater that their first fight because people wanted to see if Canelo can avenge his defeat or if Bivol is really too much for Alvarez.

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Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.

Can't really blame him because that is Money Mayweather's passion and he is doing his best to do some exhibition fights anywhere in the world while he still can and while he's still known to the public. No denying that doing some exhibition fights is one of his easiest way to make money because of what he had achieved in his time. Sooner or later, that fire that keeps him fighting will burn-out and even Mayweather can't evade that.
That's true, Remember the Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight? I didn't believe that Mayweather would fight Logan Paul even on an exhibition boxing match even their weight differences are far different from each other. It's about money and it's what we are all thinking for the reason why Mayweather agreed. Mayweather is retired but I think he is still utilizing his strength and take a chance in making money thru his boxing skills. Shall we expect another Mayweather odd exhibition match?
Who could turn down easy money, right? I don't know who's the mastermind behind that exhibition fight is, but it's a win-win situation for both of them. Logan Paul has large fan base just like brother and Mayweather has the same because of what he attained in the boxing industry before he retired, so it's a good equation that resulted to a million-dollar revenue.

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Shall we expect another Mayweather odd exhibition match?
Recent speculation is that there may be a Mayweather vs McGregor 2, don't know if it's true but maybe both camps are already talking behind the scenes especially now that McGregor didn't get some fights in UFC since he was injured and defeated by Dustin Pourier last year. He looked so buffed in his recent pictures and seems that he is planning for heavyweight in his comeback in UFC, but even that is not yet confirmed by any sources.

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September 24, 2022, 09:45:31 PM
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Ok, so Eddie Hearn and Matchroom has filed a court case against Jake Paul for saying that judge ieldman is on the the pocket from Matchroom.

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Hearn’s Matchroom Boxing has filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the outspoken Paul, claiming defamation in a complaint filed Friday afternoon with the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York. The case was submitted following outrageous allegations dropped by Paul, who alleged that veteran boxing judge Glenn Feldman was on Matchroom’s payroll based on his recent scoring of Taylor-Serrano on April 30 in New York City and the Oleksandr Usyk-Anthony Joshua rematch on August 20 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-matchroom-boxing-file-defamation-lawsuit-against-jake-paul--169287

And Hearn is seeking $100 million as damages on the allege statement by Paul. Not sure how it will hold on court, but that number is insane and I doubt that the court will order to pay that amount in any case Eddie Hearn wins the case. So it's interesting how it will ended, or it will be settled out of court. Maybe Hearn is teaching Paul here not to messed with the big boys as far as boxing promotion is concern.

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A fight against Thurman would be great, and I think Thurman will win and that would make him one of the top contenders to fight the champion. Imagine, if the fight of Spence vs Crawford will not happen, then we can still see Thurman fighting one of them if the promoter will agree.
I'd say it's 50/50

Thurman lose against Pacquiao, but Ugas won. Ugas lose against Porter, but Thurman won.

I think the lose from Spence before will giving Ugas a good lesson because this is the first time he got KO'ed and would make him to improve his chin. However if the fight will happen, it's not surprised if Thurman will be favorite because he have better record.

Well, the fight between Spence and Crawford must happen for me, they have to be very stupid not to take advantage of this business to generate more money, on the other hand, many forget that this November and December will be full of emotions from the best sport in the world or the most favorite all over the world which is football, the world cup will monopolize all the attention of the people, or at least of the majority, then that is where you should take advantage of doing everything possible to do all the fights to keep fans aware of boxing and above all to make the respective bets, this is something they should not give up doing.

No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

Don't have any idea about that but considering that Bivol has his own upcoming fight, it might not be him for this year. But if it's coming next year, the chance of him and Canelo to have their rematch is possible if Bivol will take down Zurdo. We might see Canelo's camp to pursue that intention to have the rematch, for sure it might be more money for both fighters even this time Bivol can ask for more cut compared to what he got last time.

with Canelo's win over GGG, wondering here if he will still be the favourite if he fights Bivol. because last time, bivol was underdog. so am thinking that bookies may favour canelo here. but the odds will be tight. this will be an interesting re-match if this will happen early next year. since bivol is the belt holder, high likely that he will get the bigger cut over canelo.

I think he will still be the favorite against Bivol in this will have their rematch, although it might be closer this time, specially if Bivol will win by knockout against Ramirez or if he dominates him just like how he beat Canelo.

So it's important for Bivol to show another great performance so that he will be fighting Canelo next. And for sure I'm thinking that it will be greater that their first fight because people wanted to see if Canelo can avenge his defeat or if Bivol is really too much for Alvarez.

I am one of the people who should be most in favor of Canelo, but seeing all the events, let's put in context that Canelo has a very strong injury in his hand, after the fight he said that he wants his hand surgery quickly oprque the pain is unbearable, and no matter how good he is, a boxer with a bad hand is not a good thing, so Bivol is not just any boxer, the Russian has a lot of strength, a lot of strength and his technique is not just any, he has very good strategies and that's it He beat him, so I think that when Canelo is done he should postpone it, because fighting with a hand injury is very hard.

Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.

Can't really blame him because that is Money Mayweather's passion and he is doing his best to do some exhibition fights anywhere in the world while he still can and while he's still known to the public. No denying that doing some exhibition fights is one of his easiest way to make money because of what he had achieved in his time. Sooner or later, that fire that keeps him fighting will burn-out and even Mayweather can't evade that.
That's true, Remember the Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight? I didn't believe that Mayweather would fight Logan Paul even on an exhibition boxing match even their weight differences are far different from each other. It's about money and it's what we are all thinking for the reason why Mayweather agreed. Mayweather is retired but I think he is still utilizing his strength and take a chance in making money thru his boxing skills. Shall we expect another Mayweather odd exhibition match?
Who could turn down easy money, right? I don't know who's the mastermind behind that exhibition fight is, but it's a win-win situation for both of them. Logan Paul has large fan base just like brother and Mayweather has the same because of what he attained in the boxing industry before he retired, so it's a good equation that resulted to a million-dollar revenue.

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Shall we expect another Mayweather odd exhibition match?
Recent speculation is that there may be a Mayweather vs McGregor 2, don't know if it's true but maybe both camps are already talking behind the scenes especially now that McGregor didn't get some fights in UFC since he was injured and defeated by Dustin Pourier last year. He looked so buffed in his recent pictures and seems that he is planning for heavyweight in his comeback in UFC, but even that is not yet confirmed by any sources.

Well, to tell the truth, I have a very vague position when it comes to exhibition fights that have to do with Mayweather, because he is a very controversial boxer, and he does not stop doing things so that everything goes his way, to My nadi gets me out of my head that there had to be a lot of money to have won the fight with Pacquiao, so those things, in particular, I will always have mistrust when it comes to him, because before being a boxer, I see him as a businessman, too He's a good boxer, but it's like we say in South America, he's very "mañoso" to get things, so that makes the sense of boxing decline, at least that's what I think.



Plus there's something you need to know just in case if Bivol doesn't want to fight Canelo:

The best three options for Canelo Alvarez if the Dmitry Bivol rematch doesn't happen



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The face of boxing does not have a shortage of opponents to face if Dmitry Bivol somehow gets removed from the menu. Here are three options for Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez in the case a Bivol rematch doesn't work out.

Gilberto Ramirez, Jermall Charlo, David Benavidez...


Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/the-best-three-options-for-canelo-alvarez-if-the-dmitry-bivol-rematch-doesnt-happen/7t6es92o1veu1qy90tg43y74v

It's a very good article, informative because I don't know if Bivol will give him a rematch or if Canelo doesn't want to fight him, although the Russian is very jealous of how he is.

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September 24, 2022, 10:12:21 PM
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The election's done and that's why he's up for matches again. I don't think it's a good capitalization if he's going to do it for that agenda and he's lost already and accepted that he can reach that ambition.

That's why, he's choosing where he's better and where people love him more.

Maybe, about the recovery of some expenditures. There's a likely that he's trying to do that because of how huge his campaign funds was used and it's part of his entire wealth.
Well maybe you are right and the number of recovered will surely increase and likely a respect for people that are making bad reputation for themselves, and I think that I can put this together so I have exhibited
It will definitely going to increase.

He's got already a line up of match and I guess more offers would to come him since the promoters are now aware that he's still in but anymore with the pro matches.

I guess some offers are still on it that asks him to still have that matches for the pro boxing and promoters are ready to fill that for him.

But, it all depends on him as it seems that he's good and okay with the exhibitions.

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I am one of the people who should be most in favor of Canelo, but seeing all the events, let's put in context that Canelo has a very strong injury in his hand, after the fight he said that he wants his hand surgery quickly oprque the pain is unbearable, and no matter how good he is, a boxer with a bad hand is not a good thing, so Bivol is not just any boxer, the Russian has a lot of strength, a lot of strength and his technique is not just any, he has very good strategies and that's it He beat him, so I think that when Canelo is done he should postpone it, because fighting with a hand injury is very hard.

Canelo is beaten fair and square by Bivol.  And Bivol's camp probably thinks that Bivol is far superior to Canelo so they don't give much importance to the possible Canelo-Bivol rematch, instead, they are giving priority to having a match that unifies the light heavyweight belt.

If Canelo's hand is injured then it is obvious that he needs to fully recover from that injury.  Having a relapse of injury during a fight is very devastating for a boxer.

Well, to tell the truth, I have a very vague position when it comes to exhibition fights that have to do with Mayweather, because he is a very controversial boxer, and he does not stop doing things so that everything goes his way, to My nadi gets me out of my head that there had to be a lot of money to have won the fight with Pacquiao, so those things, in particular, I will always have mistrust when it comes to him, because before being a boxer, I see him as a businessman, too He's a good boxer, but it's like we say in South America, he's very "mañoso" to get things, so that makes the sense of boxing decline, at least that's what I think.

People just failed to notice how great as technical fighter Mayweather is.  I believe he has the highest IQ in the boxing ring in his era, even in the history of boxing.  He might cherry-pick sometimes (it is part of boxing), but Mayweather Jr had beaten almost all top-ranked boxers of his time.  People think that Mayweather's fight is boring because Mayweather is too technical for the normal audience to understand.  He is a businessman, yes, but Mayweather is a capable boxer I also considered him as one of the BEST boxers in the history of boxing and the GOAT when it comes to technical boxing style.  Take note, I am not a Mayweather fan.


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September 24, 2022, 11:05:00 PM
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Canelo said that he will not be fighting Benavidez yet, as he doesn't bring any on the table.

And I believed that before his contract with Matchroom or DAZN ends, he will definitely go for a 5th title, so most likely he will go CW to get another belt.

As for Floyd's technical abilities, yes I do agree with @lionheart78, inside the ring he is one of the best complete fighter that we have seen, specially his defensive skills. From 130-147 lbs, he dominated everyone with his technical skills. But as far as outside the ring and his personality, then it's a different story.
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September 25, 2022, 12:27:48 AM
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Ok, so Eddie Hearn and Matchroom has filed a court case against Jake Paul for saying that judge ieldman is on the the pocket from Matchroom.

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Hearn’s Matchroom Boxing has filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the outspoken Paul, claiming defamation in a complaint filed Friday afternoon with the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York. The case was submitted following outrageous allegations dropped by Paul, who alleged that veteran boxing judge Glenn Feldman was on Matchroom’s payroll based on his recent scoring of Taylor-Serrano on April 30 in New York City and the Oleksandr Usyk-Anthony Joshua rematch on August 20 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-matchroom-boxing-file-defamation-lawsuit-against-jake-paul--169287

And Hearn is seeking $100 million as damages on the allege statement by Paul. Not sure how it will hold on court, but that number is insane and I doubt that the court will order to pay that amount in any case Eddie Hearn wins the case. So it's interesting how it will ended, or it will be settled out of court. Maybe Hearn is teaching Paul here not to messed with the big boys as far as boxing promotion is concern.

I'm not siding with anyone, but it seems that Jake Paul has really crossed the line, I can't recall anyone with the likes of Bob Arum or Don King saying this in public.

Perhaps even if he won this in the court, perhaps he should be careful next time. And yes, Hearn sending a signal not just to Paul but to anyone, this is business, it's cut-throat competition, but you don't have to resort to this things to bad mouth your competition. Jake Paul should have known better.

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^ Anyone with fair eyes can see who wins in the Taylor-Serrano fight, it really is disappointing for Serrano's side when it's clearly a fight she owned. If this is the way to prove what Jake Paul is saying is true then he does have the chance to win it. But definitely, this is not what a court would accept as evidence.

$100M seems too much for Defamation.


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Ok, so Eddie Hearn and Matchroom has filed a court case against Jake Paul for saying that judge ieldman is on the the pocket from Matchroom.

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Hearn’s Matchroom Boxing has filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the outspoken Paul, claiming defamation in a complaint filed Friday afternoon with the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York. The case was submitted following outrageous allegations dropped by Paul, who alleged that veteran boxing judge Glenn Feldman was on Matchroom’s payroll based on his recent scoring of Taylor-Serrano on April 30 in New York City and the Oleksandr Usyk-Anthony Joshua rematch on August 20 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-matchroom-boxing-file-defamation-lawsuit-against-jake-paul--169287

And Hearn is seeking $100 million as damages on the allege statement by Paul. Not sure how it will hold on court, but that number is insane and I doubt that the court will order to pay that amount in any case Eddie Hearn wins the case. So it's interesting how it will ended, or it will be settled out of court. Maybe Hearn is teaching Paul here not to messed with the big boys as far as boxing promotion is concern.

I'm not siding with anyone, but it seems that Jake Paul has really crossed the line, I can't recall anyone with the likes of Bob Arum or Don King saying this in public.

Perhaps even if he won this in the court, perhaps he should be careful next time. And yes, Hearn sending a signal not just to Paul but to anyone, this is business, it's cut-throat competition, but you don't have to resort to this things to bad mouth your competition. Jake Paul should have known better.

Jake Paul could have filed a complaint against the judge and should have not spoken those things in public.  Jake Paul doesn't have enough evidence to back up his claim that the judge is under Matchroom's payroll.  That is clear defamation.  Jake Paul should have thought that anything he say would affect the business and reputation of Matchroom, now he is facing a $100m defamation case i wonder how he counters this lawsuit.

$100M seems too much for Defamation.

Depends on possible damage to the reputation of the complainant.  It is said that Matchroom is valued between $739 million and $862 million[1] so pretty much that $100m is too low if ever those statement of Jake Paul ruins that $700m company.



[1] https://frontofficesports.com/matchroom-sport-in-talks-to-sell-minority-stake-worth-215m/

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No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

Don't have any idea about that but considering that Bivol has his own upcoming fight, it might not be him for this year. But if it's coming next year, the chance of him and Canelo to have their rematch is possible if Bivol will take down Zurdo. We might see Canelo's camp to pursue that intention to have the rematch, for sure it might be more money for both fighters even this time Bivol can ask for more cut compared to what he got last time.

with Canelo's win over GGG, wondering here if he will still be the favourite if he fights Bivol. because last time, bivol was underdog. so am thinking that bookies may favour canelo here. but the odds will be tight. this will be an interesting re-match if this will happen early next year. since bivol is the belt holder, high likely that he will get the bigger cut over canelo.

I think he will still be the favorite against Bivol in this will have their rematch, although it might be closer this time, specially if Bivol will win by knockout against Ramirez or if he dominates him just like how he beat Canelo.

So it's important for Bivol to show another great performance so that he will be fighting Canelo next. And for sure I'm thinking that it will be greater that their first fight because people wanted to see if Canelo can avenge his defeat or if Bivol is really too much for Alvarez.

If Bivol win this upcoming fight again, we may hear lots of calls with a rematch against Canelo, it will be another money fight for both fighters, like what you have said, it will attract more viewers looking on how Canelo will try to avenge his first lost from that last fight, Though it might still Canelo will have bookies favorite as a crowd love fighter he might get that respect from the bookies.

It will be on the gambler's decision whether to follow that trend or they will bet against the favorite.

Though it will be a waiting time for the fans who wanted to see that possible rematch, Bivol needs to beat Zurdo first before planning or accepting another fight.

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September 25, 2022, 02:40:44 PM
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No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

Recent rumors are saying that Canelo might activate the rematch if Bivol succeeds on his title defense against Zurdo and that might pursue because Bivol has nothing to do afterwards as Beterbiev is currently injured and he also have his own title defense he needed to win.

Also, if you guys remember our past discussion on Canelo's contract, I think it was written somewhere in that said contract that Canelo will face 3 boxers this year or hopefully next year 1st quarter, we already know the 2 boxers namely Bivol and Golovkin. Now, can somebody here guess who's that 3rd boxer? Or can someone confirm that there's indeed 3rd challenger?

Don't have any idea about that but considering that Bivol has his own upcoming fight, it might not be him for this year. But if it's coming next year, the chance of him and Canelo to have their rematch is possible if Bivol will take down Zurdo. We might see Canelo's camp to pursue that intention to have the rematch, for sure it might be more money for both fighters even this time Bivol can ask for more cut compared to what he got last time.

with Canelo's win over GGG, wondering here if he will still be the favourite if he fights Bivol. because last time, bivol was underdog. so am thinking that bookies may favour canelo here. but the odds will be tight. this will be an interesting re-match if this will happen early next year. since bivol is the belt holder, high likely that he will get the bigger cut over canelo.

I think he will still be the favorite against Bivol in this will have their rematch, although it might be closer this time, specially if Bivol will win by knockout against Ramirez or if he dominates him just like how he beat Canelo.

So it's important for Bivol to show another great performance so that he will be fighting Canelo next. And for sure I'm thinking that it will be greater that their first fight because people wanted to see if Canelo can avenge his defeat or if Bivol is really too much for Alvarez.

If Bivol win this upcoming fight again, we may hear lots of calls with a rematch against Canelo, it will be another money fight for both fighters, like what you have said, it will attract more viewers looking on how Canelo will try to avenge his first lost from that last fight, Though it might still Canelo will have bookies favorite as a crowd love fighter he might get that respect from the bookies.

It will be on the gambler's decision whether to follow that trend or they will bet against the favorite.

Though it will be a waiting time for the fans who wanted to see that possible rematch, Bivol needs to beat Zurdo first before planning or accepting another fight.

They will surely aim for another rematch because it can easily attract viewers and bettors. We all know that boxing fans always want to know who is the best among the best. It will also be another opportunity for Bivol but if ever he'll faces Canelo, he must have enough time to prepare because for sure, Canelo would aim for a sure victory this time.
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They will surely aim for another rematch because it can easily attract viewers and bettors. We all know that boxing fans always want to know who is the best among the best. It will also be another opportunity for Bivol but if ever he'll faces Canelo, he must have enough time to prepare because for sure, Canelo would aim for a sure victory this time.
I think the way Bivol can prove he's better than Canelo is really a strong fighter mental since not every boxers can perform as good as they can when the crowd favoring on their opponent side. If the rematch happen and Bivol still win again, I have no word to say since I believe many people will disappointed to see Canelo still not able proving he's deserve to be on light heavyweight division. It just end of Canelo era since he have beat the best boxer on his current weight, but he's bad on the next weight.

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Floyd won another exhibition match in Japan,

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The 45-year-old Mayweather dropped Asakura just before the bell sounded to end the second round. He tried to get up, but the southpaw couldn’t quite beat referee Kenny Bayless’ count before it reached 10.

Mayweather won in the main event of a Rizin pay-per-view show at Saitama Super Arena.

https://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-drops-stops-mikuru-asakura-end-2nd-round-exhibition--169302

So another mismatch fight for Floyd and another easy money for him as he knock out Asakura in the second round.

Take note that Manny is amongst the crowd though, so maybe after his match against a South korean and then against his former sparring partner, he might go to Japan as well like Floyd and fight.

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