[CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi

[Mauser]

I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament. He is only one of three Indians grandmasters who managed to beat Carlsen. Blitz chess and normal chess games are very different, the players don't have the time at hand to think too deep about moves ahead. It is much easier to make mistakes. In a traditional tournament Carlsen would have probably won. But still, such a big win at such a young age his a pretty big boost for his self esteem. I hope he will keep training and maybe go for a world championship match vs Carlsen at one point. Now I am wondering how this Carlsen loss will impact betting on matches in the future. It is just a matter of time until we have a new world chess champion.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/sport/rameshbabu-praggnanandhaa-magnus-carlsen-chess-spt-intl/index.html

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[pinggoki]

I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament. He is only one of three Indians grandmasters who managed to beat Carlsen. Blitz chess and normal chess games are very different, the players don't have the time at hand to think too deep about moves ahead. It is much easier to make mistakes. In a traditional tournament Carlsen would have probably won. But still, such a big win at such a young age his a pretty big boost for his self esteem. I hope he will keep training and maybe go for a world championship match vs Carlsen at one point. Now I am wondering how this Carlsen loss will impact betting on matches in the future. It is just a matter of time until we have a new world chess champion.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/sport/rameshbabu-praggnanandhaa-magnus-carlsen-chess-spt-intl/index.html

That's actually pretty cool, you've got a bragging rights that you've beat the World Champion. Ramesh will definitely be a big player if he continues and pursues chess and becomes a competitive player, this win easily gave him a spotlight and people are going to expect, now that you mention it, I'd love to see him fight Carlsen in a standard match.

[Lucasgabd]

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

would love to see some data on distribution of grandmasters per age group and as % of total chess players.

[seoincorporation]

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

would love to see some data on distribution of grandmasters per age group and as % of total chess players.

You can find that information in the International Chess Federation, there you will find the rating with all the data for each GrandMaster.

https://ratings.fide.com/

And I agree with you, Carlsen Magnus is a really impressive chess player, and he proves how good he was when he play vs Kasparov at the age of 13.

[joeperry]

I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament.

I read this too and was surprised about it that a Indian teen managed to beat Carlsen in Blitz Chess tournament although just like what you have said it is different with normal chess since it is Blitz still you won't be able to beat Carlsen if you are not that good. I tried that Blitz before and that's true that I always made a mistake and wasn't able to think well because of the time pressure.

Anyway, congratulations to Nepomniachtchi for defeating Carlsen in Blitz Chess!

[KennyR]

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

In his interview to a news paper he said he was completely drained and was in the urge to sleep, but everything happened something as a miracle. With that one of his dream have come to reality. Maybe these kids are born different, but the way he grew up is a like a common Indian citizen. If this is some other game, now he could've been Known to the world. The game got over days back and now only slowly the world is getting to know about the 16 year old kid Praggnanandhaa.

[Mauser]

And I agree with you, Carlsen Magnus is a really impressive chess player, and he proves how good he was when he play vs Kasparov at the age of 13.

Yeah I remember that video from YouTube were you could see the nervous young Carlsen play Kasparow, and after the match you would hear how impressed he was with him. Magnus got a lot of support for his family, they took him out of school for a year and travelled with him through Europe. So he could play many tournaments against a lot of different players. Now with the rise of online chess and blitz chess apps, everybody can play against each other from home. The potential to train against grandmaster from the other side of the earth should help all players. Even Magnus offers now the chance to play Blitz games against him on his own website.

[Lucasgabd]

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

In his interview to a news paper he said he was completely drained and was in the urge to sleep, but everything happened something as a miracle. With that one of his dream have come to reality. Maybe these kids are born different, but the way he grew up is a like a common Indian citizen. If this is some other game, now he could've been Known to the world. The game got over days back and now only slowly the world is getting to know about the 16 year old kid Praggnanandhaa.

yes, it's amazing

I used more as an expression, I think it's a mix of training but there's probably a genetic component too that makes chess calculation easier

seeing more studies on that would be quite cool too

[qwertyup23]

The game between Magnus and Nepo in Airthings Masters Finals 2022 was just a privilege to watch!

We get to see an action between the former candidates challenger Nepo and Magnus battling each other in rapid format. Though 4 games ended in a draw, there were missing chances on both players on all of those games. As you can see, Nepo clearly wants to play chess and avoid any classical variations as he is exploring different opening repertoire to his disposal.

[qwertyup23]

So Magnus was able to win the entire Airthings Master Finals 2022 when he managed to beat Ian Nepomnaitchi in the final day of the match.

Surprisingly, Magnus won two (2) games both as white and black. On the first game, Ian terribly blundered/sacrificed his horse which costed him the match. On the second game, however, Magnus was able to produce winning ideas in which Ian failed to spot. A lot of people are saying that Magnus was not in shape in this tournament, but the fact that he won shows his continued dominance throughout.

[South Park]

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

In his interview to a news paper he said he was completely drained and was in the urge to sleep, but everything happened something as a miracle. With that one of his dream have come to reality. Maybe these kids are born different, but the way he grew up is a like a common Indian citizen. If this is some other game, now he could've been Known to the world. The game got over days back and now only slowly the world is getting to know about the 16 year old kid Praggnanandhaa.

yes, it's amazing

I used more as an expression, I think it's a mix of training but there's probably a genetic component too that makes chess calculation easier

seeing more studies on that would be quite cool too

According to some research that I read long time ago chess depends heavily on pattern recognition, for example we use pattern recognition to distinguish one person from another due to their distinctive features, however not everyone is as good as this and there are people that never forget a face while there are others that cannot remember even their own face, so it is likely that the best chess players are great at this and if to this we add their training then this explains why they can become so good at such a young age.

[babygun]

I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament. He is only one of three Indians grandmasters who managed to beat Carlsen. Blitz chess and normal chess games are very different, the players don't have the time at hand to think too deep about moves ahead. It is much easier to make mistakes. In a traditional tournament Carlsen would have probably won. But still, such a big win at such a young age his a pretty big boost for his self esteem. I hope he will keep training and maybe go for a world championship match vs Carlsen at one point. Now I am wondering how this Carlsen loss will impact betting on matches in the future. It is just a matter of time until we have a new world chess champion.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/sport/rameshbabu-praggnanandhaa-magnus-carlsen-chess-spt-intl/index.html

It is not because Carlsen looses one match that we will get a new world champion in chess. He currently only holds the title in normal chess and lost his titles in blitz and rapid chess earlier this year. Even the greatest players can make mistake or have some lapses in concentration causing them to loose matches. It is a very nice win for the Indian teenager but this doesn't really mean a lot right now (in my eyes).

[Lucasgabd]

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According to some research that I read long time ago chess depends heavily on pattern recognition, for example we use pattern recognition to distinguish one person from another due to their distinctive features, however not everyone is as good as this and there are people that never forget a face while there are others that cannot remember even their own face, so it is likely that the best chess players are great at this and if to this we add their training then this explains why they can become so good at such a young age.

really interesting and makes sense
I find it that memory also plays a role on being good at it
and math/calculations, it's really mathematical too when it comes to memorizing and checking future possibilities of how the game may develop

[LUCKMCFLY]

And I agree with you, Carlsen Magnus is a really impressive chess player, and he proves how good he was when he play vs Kasparov at the age of 13.

Yeah I remember that video from YouTube were you could see the nervous young Carlsen play Kasparow, and after the match you would hear how impressed he was with him. Magnus got a lot of support for his family, they took him out of school for a year and travelled with him through Europe. So he could play many tournaments against a lot of different players. Now with the rise of online chess and blitz chess apps, everybody can play against each other from home. The potential to train against grandmaster from the other side of the earth should help all players. Even Magnus offers now the chance to play Blitz games against him on his own website.

I didn't know that Magnus had that option on his website, I heard a long time ago that he had the option to do some blitz on his site, but never against him, this is something that is very fun and at the same time educational, I think that every teacher of Chess should have its own site and share your thoughts, there are many chess fans worldwide, and every thought, every plan that is generated is something that may be new for those of us who have always been playing, particularly I am going to visit the site , I am struck by having an encounter with this master..

By the way, Kasparov is a strong opponent of Putin, and it seemed to me that he was being taken away by the Russian authorities for demonstrating against him, a noble and courageous gesture.

[Lucasgabd]

must be hard to live only out of competitions too, would probably be a good idea for chess masters to boost their income with online trainings, coaching sessions and classes/courses

I know bit tournaments pay you well but what about off-season when they are just practicing and studying for it
are there such thing like sponsors for chess too?

[South Park]

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According to some research that I read long time ago chess depends heavily on pattern recognition, for example we use pattern recognition to distinguish one person from another due to their distinctive features, however not everyone is as good as this and there are people that never forget a face while there are others that cannot remember even their own face, so it is likely that the best chess players are great at this and if to this we add their training then this explains why they can become so good at such a young age.

really interesting and makes sense
I find it that memory also plays a role on being good at it
and math/calculations, it's really mathematical too when it comes to memorizing and checking future possibilities of how the game may develop

Without a doubt there are many factors that make a particular person talented at chess, and like you said their memory also plays a huge factor, after all if a person can only remember a handful of openings while another one can remember more openings and their many variations then the second person has a huge advantage over the first one, as they will be able to enter the middle game in a better position most of the time and they will be able to get more wins as a result of this knowledge they have memorized.

[Lucasgabd]

<..>Without a doubt there are many factors that make a particular person talented at chess, and like you said their memory also plays a huge factor, after all if a person can only remember a handful of openings while another one can remember more openings and their many variations then the second person has a huge advantage over the first one, as they will be able to enter the middle game in a better position most of the time and they will be able to get more wins as a result of this knowledge they have memorized.

yes! completely true
not only remembering the openings but how to defend from them, or how to play each opening from white or black pieces perspective

I found out that openings will many times decide the whole game, sometimes you get a small advantage on the start like 1 or 2 pawns and then it's worth it to just exchange a lot of pieces, clean the board and turn pawns into queens, a pawn alone can totally change the game and decide who will win.

[LUCKMCFLY]

must be hard to live only out of competitions too, would probably be a good idea for chess masters to boost their income with online trainings, coaching sessions and classes/courses

I know bit tournaments pay you well but what about off-season when they are just practicing and studying for it
are there such thing like sponsors for chess too?

It is not very difficult, chess is one of the most beautiful sports but unfortunately it does not have sponsors like soccer, what each teacher does is study alone, at least that is the knowledge I have of them, there are clubs worldwide that they can do a simulcast and get paid there, although those are special events and on particular dates.

In the case of some friends, they have completed their specializations as chess masters, I understand that training is day and night, practicing each move and its multiple options, it is not easy at all really.

[qwertyup23]

Congratulations for GM Richard Rapport for winning the 2022 Belgrade Grand Prix and also beating GM Dmitry Andreikin in their last match of the game. Though both had winning chances on the end, the last game is what sealed the deal for Richard in which he described his move as a a "leap of faith." The game should have ended in a draw but he managed to squeeze and somehow trick Dmitry into the end game.

I think as far as ratings go, Richard Rapport is now top 6 in the whole world, replacing Nepo and Giri on the standings. I do believe that he is capable of achieving greater heights, especially that he has now a chance to participate in the next year's candidates tournament!

[Lucasgabd]

for those interested on new topics about chess on the gambling area of the forum there's a new topic with vibrant discussion here:
Chess online?

good to see more people talking about chess around here

just posted it here because we talked about opening more topics on this thread a couple weeks ago