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Author Topic: [CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi  (Read 2079 times)
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June 14, 2022, 05:25:06 PM
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The other part of Queen gambit is how a poor girl strives and got her first chess board. Her first chess books - her new clothes and shoes.
There is struggle in the everything. Only the focused one wins.

totally agree, she comes from a really hard situation and still can create a good life for her, it's an amazing series
all this conversation about it makes me want to watch it again, maybe one day in the future




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The fact of seeing 4 or 5 moves is already enough, since I was 5 years old I played a lot of chess, then I stopped and when I was that age I had the ability to see many moves but I got very tired, so what I developed the most was concentration, obviously from then on for me math and everything that had to do with the study was too simple for me, in fact it still is, but what I admire most is that everyone reads the books, the openings and is aware of the updates, that's what makes them better chess players.


lately I feel that being able to master the finals is even more important then the openings, you can get along well with the same opening and the same defense until advanced levels, probably
but knowing how to go to the midgame and checkmate when the  board is almost empty is art!

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June 15, 2022, 02:27:13 AM
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lately I feel that being able to master the finals is even more important then the openings, you can get along well with the same opening and the same defense until advanced levels, probably
but knowing how to go to the midgame and checkmate when the  board is almost empty is art!
This is true, while openings are important even if you make a mistake you have the whole game to recover from it, so unless it is a terrible mistake you can still make a comeback, but when it comes to endings even the smallest inaccuracy in your play can be more than enough to produce a loss, also since the game is already on its latest stage any mistake is basically irreparable, and if to this we add that even if you have an advantage there are some endings in which if you did not took the time to study them you cannot pull off the win, like the ending of king, bishop and knight vs king, then this demonstrates the importance of studying end game theory.

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June 15, 2022, 02:35:25 PM
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lately I feel that being able to master the finals is even more important then the openings, you can get along well with the same opening and the same defense until advanced levels, probably
but knowing how to go to the midgame and checkmate when the  board is almost empty is art!
This is true, while openings are important even if you make a mistake you have the whole game to recover from it, so unless it is a terrible mistake you can still make a comeback, but when it comes to endings even the smallest inaccuracy in your play can be more than enough to produce a loss, also since the game is already on its latest stage any mistake is basically irreparable, and if to this we add that even if you have an advantage there are some endings in which if you did not took the time to study them you cannot pull off the win, like the ending of king, bishop and knight vs king, then this demonstrates the importance of studying end game theory.

yes, much easier to end if you have pawns/towers/queen
I want to dive into this and study it more.
endings and tactics for the middle game

it's impressive how many things there are to learn

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June 23, 2022, 12:53:28 AM
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lately I feel that being able to master the finals is even more important then the openings, you can get along well with the same opening and the same defense until advanced levels, probably
but knowing how to go to the midgame and checkmate when the  board is almost empty is art!

The truth is that I'm very bad at finals, I'm good at openings and keeping the game in dominance, but when I see that they start to beat me a lot, I don't know, I don't have that ability to recover like the others have, I don't know. if it is that I get tired of thinking or simply how my plans are knocked down, I can't think of another way to get out of trouble, that is why when I play I try to dominate the whole game so that the end doesn't have to think much, there are others who they are experts, who even losing and entering the final stage are capable of turning the game around, I say this because it has happened to me and it really makes me very angry, although I end up accepting that this is part of the game, my anger is with myself.

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June 23, 2022, 01:57:01 PM
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lately I feel that being able to master the finals is even more important then the openings, you can get along well with the same opening and the same defense until advanced levels, probably
but knowing how to go to the midgame and checkmate when the  board is almost empty is art!

The truth is that I'm very bad at finals, I'm good at openings and keeping the game in dominance, but when I see that they start to beat me a lot, I don't know, I don't have that ability to recover like the others have, I don't know. if it is that I get tired of thinking or simply how my plans are knocked down, I can't think of another way to get out of trouble, that is why when I play I try to dominate the whole game so that the end doesn't have to think much, there are others who they are experts, who even losing and entering the final stage are capable of turning the game around, I say this because it has happened to me and it really makes me very angry, although I end up accepting that this is part of the game, my anger is with myself.


it's crazy
sometimes the player who has the advantage is not the one who wins because of silly mistakes or not knowing how to finalize the opponent with a clean board, I've played against people who couldn't finalize even with queen + rook against a lonely king, they ended up messing up and losing their rook

of course this probably doesn't happen on higher ranks.

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June 24, 2022, 04:05:07 AM
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it's crazy
sometimes the player who has the advantage is not the one who wins because of silly mistakes or not knowing how to finalize the opponent with a clean board, I've played against people who couldn't finalize even with queen + rook against a lonely king, they ended up messing up and losing their rook

of course this probably doesn't happen on higher ranks.
While this does not happen at the higher levels, since checkmating with a queen or a rook is incredibly easy, there have been cases in which even a GM has failed to checkmate their opponent with bishop and knight vs king, some opponents are generous enough to resign and avoid getting checkmated, but there have been cases in which the opponent refuses to give up and basically dares their opponent to checkmating them on 50 plays or less, and since they have not practiced the proper technique for a long time they fail to do so and draw a game which should have been won by them.

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June 24, 2022, 04:28:20 AM
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it's crazy
sometimes the player who has the advantage is not the one who wins because of silly mistakes or not knowing how to finalize the opponent with a clean board, I've played against people who couldn't finalize even with queen + rook against a lonely king, they ended up messing up and losing their rook

of course this probably doesn't happen on higher ranks.
While this does not happen at the higher levels, since checkmating with a queen or a rook is incredibly easy, there have been cases in which even a GM has failed to checkmate their opponent with bishop and knight vs king, some opponents are generous enough to resign and avoid getting checkmated, but there have been cases in which the opponent refuses to give up and basically dares their opponent to checkmating them on 50 plays or less, and since they have not practiced the proper technique for a long time they fail to do so and draw a game which should have been won by them.
Even GM's like Hikaru have had a hard time mating with a bishop and a knight. Happened recently on his twitch channel. Especially when in time trouble, it could get very dicey and if the opponent is tricky. He/She could easily earn a draw or stalemate from it. I recently learnt how to do it, since I myself struggle to checkmate with a bishop and a knight.

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yes, checkmates with bishop and knight are challenging
any resources on learning it?

stalemate is another funny situation where sometimes a person has a game on their hands but fails to win because of it.

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June 24, 2022, 04:41:33 PM
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yes, checkmates with bishop and knight are challenging
any resources on learning it?

stalemate is another funny situation where sometimes a person has a game on their hands but fails to win because of it.

Try to look here: https://www.chess.com/terms/bishop-knight-checkmate
But the best thing to do is practice. Probably in any chess simulator you can set the position you are interested in and try to make this checkmate against the computer. Do not forget that you must meet the 50-move rule, otherwise a draw will be fixed.

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June 24, 2022, 05:09:19 PM
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yes, checkmates with bishop and knight are challenging
any resources on learning it?

stalemate is another funny situation where sometimes a person has a game on their hands but fails to win because of it.

A checkmate with bishop and knight will probably only happen in classic chess as you need to think carefully how to position them; in blitz or rapid chess it will rarely happen I guess.
Lol stalemate can be funny sometimes but also frustating. I still remember one game I played years ago that I always should have won (2 towers vs 0) and still somehow my opponent managed to get a draw by stalemate...



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June 24, 2022, 06:12:26 PM
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A checkmate with bishop and knight will probably only happen in classic chess as you need to think carefully how to position them; in blitz or rapid chess it will rarely happen I guess.
Lol stalemate can be funny sometimes but also frustating. I still remember one game I played years ago that I always should have won (2 towers vs 0) and still somehow my opponent managed to get a draw by stalemate...

For professional chess players, this checkmate is a common technical action. And if they are not in tight time trouble, they will easily realize the advantage. And as far as I know, in most tournaments, in order to avoid a "dirty" blitz, at least a couple of seconds of addition is given for each move. This allows you to play intelligently.

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June 28, 2022, 04:24:00 PM
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yes, checkmates with bishop and knight are challenging
any resources on learning it?

stalemate is another funny situation where sometimes a person has a game on their hands but fails to win because of it.

Try to look here: https://www.chess.com/terms/bishop-knight-checkmate
But the best thing to do is practice. Probably in any chess simulator you can set the position you are interested in and try to make this checkmate against the computer. Do not forget that you must meet the 50-move rule, otherwise a draw will be fixed.

thanks for the information!

interesting, didn't know this of the 50-move rule

chess.com and lichess also have this kind of simulators where you can put the pieces you want on the table?
never looked into it

A checkmate with bishop and knight will probably only happen in classic chess as you need to think carefully how to position them; in blitz or rapid chess it will rarely happen I guess.
Lol stalemate can be funny sometimes but also frustating. I still remember one game I played years ago that I always should have won (2 towers vs 0) and still somehow my opponent managed to get a draw by stalemate...

For professional chess players, this checkmate is a common technical action. And if they are not in tight time trouble, they will easily realize the advantage. And as far as I know, in most tournaments, in order to avoid a "dirty" blitz, at least a couple of seconds of addition is given for each move. This allows you to play intelligently.

even online you can play like that
there's like 10+5 games where you have 10 minutes and get 5 seconds extra after each move
not my favorite way to play but you're right, it gives you more time to breath

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Thanks everyone for a great discussion. I'm closing the topic as it is outdated and I suggest continuing the conversation in a new one: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022.
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