Brasileirão 2022 - Brazilian Championship Serie A

[alegotardo]

His predictions were right, Internacional managed to tie the game, and that's how it ended. With this result, the difference between the first and the second is 10 points. One more guarantee that Palmeiras will be champions this season.

Right now, the real fight is between 4th and 5th place. But I don't think the table will change much, and it should end up like this.

I even imagined, the International will beat Coritiba, but I was wrong!!

With this draw, Internacional they were unable to take advantage of this opportunity, and with this draw, Palmeiras distanced themselves even further from the other teams.

With the two recent draws by Palmeiras, I was even hopeful to see Internacional be champions, but now I'm resigned.... it won't be this year

Unfortunately, I believe that Internacional's goal was incorrectly disallowed, we could have won that match.... but I confess that Interncional could also have played much better agains Coritiba.

I hope they manages to keep this vice-leadership in the championship, after all... Flamengo is right behind in third place with just 3 points less.

[joker_josue]

I hope they manages to keep this vice-leadership in the championship, after all... Flamengo is right behind in third place with just 3 points less.

I start to think that despite the beginning of the very busy championship of Flamengo, they "slowly" are moving up the classification and finishing in second.
They just don't finish first, because Palmeiras is really playing very well and won a big advance in the beginning, managing to better manage what's left of the season.

[l3pox]

I hope they manages to keep this vice-leadership in the championship, after all... Flamengo is right behind in third place with just 3 points less.

I start to think that despite the beginning of the very busy championship of Flamengo, they "slowly" are moving up the classification and finishing in second.
They just don't finish first, because Palmeiras is really playing very well and won a big advance in the beginning, managing to better manage what's left of the season.

yes, seems like it'll be impossible to beat Palmeiras this time
but Flamengo could have some space on second place,
you're right

soon we will know.

who do you think will finish 3rd and 4th?

[gagux123]

So guys, giving a general answer...

Literally the championship belongs to Palmeiras, that's a fact lol

I believe that between 2nd and 12th, anything can happen.
Because there are few points of difference that separate one team from the other.

My bets are...

1st Palmeiras
2nd Internacional
3rd Flamengo
4th Corinthians
5th Fluminense

And what about the matches we will have in the next round of the Brasileirao? (10/31, 11/01 and 11/02)
What are your bets?

[alegotardo]

who do you think will finish 3rd and 4th?

The way the score is close, disregarding the leadership of Palmeiras... it is very difficult to predict who will finish the championship in which position.
If it was a knockout type competition it would even be easier, but as it is by points it is very difficult to predict.

However, I believe that the following teams will qualify for Conmebol Libertadores 2023:
Palmeiras, Internacional, Flamengo, Corinthians, Atlético-MG and São Paulo

Six in the Brasileirão, right?

[gagux123]

Six in the Brasileirão, right?

@alegotardo, to be more specific, there are 8 Brazilian teams that will go to the next Libertadores.

• Champion team of the last Libertadores
• Copa Sudamericana champion team
• Brasileirão Champion
• 2nd place in the Brasileirão  championship
• 3rd place in the Brasileirão championship
• 4th place in the Brasileirão championship
• 5th place in the Brasileirão championship
• 6th place in the Brasileirão championship

The teams that are in 5th place and 6th place in the Brasileirao, they still don't have 100% chance of participating in the next Libertadores, because they are in a repechage phase, that is, it will be necessary to play other games to actually go in the next Libertadores.

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Com isso, nove equipes brasileiras vão para a Libertadores, sendo oito pelo Brasileirão, o atual campeão da Libertadores e o atual campeão da Sul-Americana.

Palmeiras - Campeão da Libertadores 2021
Athletico-PR - Campeão da Copa Sul-Americana 2021
Atlético-MG - Campeão do Campeonato Brasileiro 2021
Flamengo - Vice-campeão do Campeonato Brasileiro 2021
Fortaleza - Quarto colocado do Campeonato Brasileiro 2021
Corinthians - Quinto colocado do Campeonato Brasileiro 2021
RB Bragantino - Sexto colocado do Campeonato Brasileiro 2021
Fluminense - Sétimo colocado do Campeonato Brasileiro 2021
América-MG - OItavo colocado do Campeonato Brasileiro 2021

Source: https://www.goal.com/br/not%C3%ADcias/quais-os-times-brasileiros-classificados-para-a-libertadores-de-2022/bltc3c3b7ba79867b05

[joker_josue]

My bets are...

1st Palmeiras
2nd Internacional
3rd Flamengo
4th Corinthians
5th Fluminense

And what about the matches we will have in the next round of the Brasileirao? (10/31, 11/01 and 11/02)
What are your bets?

I would say Flamengo has better conditions to finish 2nd than Internacional.
I say this by looking at the calendar until the end of the season. Flamengo has a series of more favorable games than Internacional. Despite the difference in points between the two is only 4 points, Intenacional have more complicated games and a tie is enough for this difference to disappear. And the last round, Internacional will play with Palmeiras. It is true that at that time Palmeiras is already champion, but we know well that they will not make it easy.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Hahaha, I hope nobody followed my bet because I lost 50 bucks 
Next week Corinthians will play again vs Flamengo but it will be the final decision, in Maracana
I think Flamengo is more favorite, but I'll try again my luck with Corinthians, but I don't know the odds yet, maybe will be good to Corinthians


Both teams will play tomorrow
Flamengo vs Atlético MG
Corinthians vs Goias

and both teams need to play with main team to stay at their positions and not lost the Libertadores zone

I believed in a victory for Corinthians, but I didn't get to bet on him in this round.
As for the next guesses, I believe that Corinthians can beat Goiás, and obviously Flamengo should also beat Atlético MG.

But, I will reserve my bets for the games between Palmeiras and São Paulo.... I will bet on São Paulo, all faith is necessary to make Palmeiras lose . And also at Internacional, which will obviously beat Botafogo.

This is the beauty of football, everyone thinks and makes their bets on their favorite teams and in part this unites, each person has a different position and sees the sport and anything else in their own way, and they put into context what is who dominates the most, if what one or the other thinks, on the other hand, I cannot deny that the corinthias at one point made me fall in love with how they played, wow it was a total class, but due to internal problems or whatever whatever it was, they went down very quickly, that's something that shouldn't happen, on the other hand, with Palmeiras, at this point I don't know, they're doing so well, that I think they shouldn't risk too much and play with a lot of restraint.

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Thanks for your comment! I found it interesting and useful!

Practically the champion of the Brasileirão this year is Palmeiras, that's clear. But there are still some interesting games until the championship is over, for example, some teams are close to the relegation zone and others teams that are among the top 6 or top 8 in which they are looking for a spot in Copa Libertadores.

Flamengo stood out in most of the Copa do Brasil games, and it was merit of the team! Although other teams also played well.
Regarding fans, Corinthians and Flamengo are the teams that have the most fans in Brazil, and in third place if I'm not mistaken is Sao Paulo.

Oh, by the way, yes, there is a slight difference between these languages, but at the same time there are also several similarities between Portuguese and Spanish.

Ah, that's a detail I didn't know, the only thing I know about Brazil is Manaus, and it seemed spectacular to me, with respect to Corinthias and Flamengo, I imagine they are the largest states, right? Just like Sao Pulo, since I am a native Spanish speaker, Portuguese is very easy for me and it is a beautiful language, in fact when I went to Brazil I did a quick course through Duolingo and it helped me a lot, as far as soccer for me was a paradise of soccer, it was incredible, it happened to me when Brazil was going to play its selection and that was like a national holiday, that day there was no work, it seems to me that it is a paradise there, besides that its people are very nice I imagine that for the local games of the Brasileirao it will be another level to be in those stadiums, the Arena do Brasil stadium seemed to me to be very good, updated, excellent.

My bets are...

1st Palmeiras
2nd Internacional
3rd Flamengo
4th Corinthians
5th Fluminense

And what about the matches we will have in the next round of the Brasileirao? (10/31, 11/01 and 11/02)
What are your bets?

I would say Flamengo has better conditions to finish 2nd than Internacional.
I say this by looking at the calendar until the end of the season. Flamengo has a series of more favorable games than Internacional. Despite the difference in points between the two is only 4 points, Intenacional have more complicated games and a tie is enough for this difference to disappear. And the last round, Internacional will play with Palmeiras. It is true that at that time Palmeiras is already champion, but we know well that they will not make it easy.

So you put Flamengo in 2nd? It seems good to me, Internacional is a team that has surprised a lot, in my opinion it has a great leadership and can do great things, as it has been doing, Palmeiras is sure that it will not make it easy, it is a very strong team and it seems to me well that it is so, because giving away a game is not the right thing either, for me these things should be done fighting, I am still doubtful about the second place, for me the Internacional has played very well, and I repeat, it is a team that has very surprised, of course Flamengo is another level, here both teams can represent very well.

This type of analysis seems excellent to me:

Brasileirão Série A 2022: Flamengo vs Santos – data viz, stats and insights

Wednesday night saw Flamengo vs Santos in Brazil Serie A.

We’ve broken down all the key stats for you to digest in this tactical analysis and provide insights around;

* shot maps
* pass flow
* heatmaps
* defensive actions
* average positions and much more!

Source: https://totalfootballanalysis.com/stats-pack/brasileirao-serie-a-2022-flamengo-vs-santos-data-viz-stats-and-insights

I like how they put a good analysis of the game here, not bad, Brazil always teaching fútbol.

[gagux123]

I would say Flamengo has better conditions to finish 2nd than Internacional.
I say this by looking at the calendar until the end of the season. Flamengo has a series of more favorable games than Internacional. Despite the difference in points between the two is only 4 points, Intenacional have more complicated games and a tie is enough for this difference to disappear. And the last round, Internacional will play with Palmeiras. It is true that at that time Palmeiras is already champion, but we know well that they will not make it easy.

Well, I don't know, but that's a possibility.
I imagine, Internacional has more chances to finish the championship in 2nd place than Flamengo

In fact, Flamengo will have easier games than Internacional. But on the other hand, Internacional will also have some easy games (not like Flamengo)

Another variable that is important is Libertadores.

I have no doubts that Flamengo will focus 100% on the Libertadores finals

the same applies to Athletico-PR, he will also play in the finals of Lbertadores and will also focus on this championship

[l3pox]

we are really close to the finals now
last 2 weeks of championship

the finals of Brasileirão 2022 are expected to happen on November 13th.

 

here we have the updated tables in case anyone wants to check
https://www.cbf.com.br/futebol-brasileiro/competicoes/campeonato-brasileiro-serie-a/2022

[gagux123]

we are really close to the finals now
last 2 weeks of championship

the finals of Brasileirão 2022 are expected to happen on November 13th.

 

here we have the updated tables in case anyone wants to check
https://www.cbf.com.br/futebol-brasileiro/competicoes/campeonato-brasileiro-serie-a/2022

Yes... great observation!!
I believe the championship is already decided, but with some minor changes.
By the way, I sincerely hope that my Sao Paulo can get some victories in these last games, to at least be able to climb to 6th place and try to get a spot for the next Libertadores... 

[l3pox]

I didn't even know only the top 6 would go to Libertadores, learned about it here these days
when it comes to soccer I'm really not the best one ahahaha don't even keep up with the news and threw away my television 10 years ago.

[joker_josue]

I didn't even know only the top 6 would go to Libertadores, learned about it here these days
when it comes to soccer I'm really not the best one ahahaha don't even keep up with the news and threw away my television 10 years ago.

Speaking of places for Libertadores...
Is there any other continental competition where clubs participate besides Libertadores?
For example, in Europe there is the Champions League and the Europa League.

[gagux123]

With the defeat that Internacional had today against America-MG, Palmeiras became champion of the Brazilian championship this year!!
Through this message, I congratulate the team and the fans for that excellent performance that Palmeiras obtained 

[alegotardo]

With the defeat that Internacional had today against America-MG, Palmeiras became champion of the Brazilian championship this year!!
Through this message, I congratulate the team and the fans for that excellent performance that Palmeiras obtained 

Maybe it was better that way....
Ending this anguish as soon as possible, as most already knew that Palmeiras would be champion, it was just a mathematical issue that prevented him from taking that title.

Perhaps some fanatic still believed in the possibility of Internacional winning the championship.... I myself was deluded for a long time.

Anyway, I had two disappointments this week: my president and my team lost. 

[gagux123]

With the defeat that Internacional had today against America-MG, Palmeiras became champion of the Brazilian championship this year!!
Through this message, I congratulate the team and the fans for that excellent performance that Palmeiras obtained  

Maybe it was better that way....
Ending this anguish as soon as possible, as most already knew that Palmeiras would be champion, it was just a mathematical issue that prevented him from taking that title.

Perhaps some fanatic still believed in the possibility of Internacional winning the championship.... I myself was deluded for a long time.

Anyway, I had two disappointments this week: my president and my team lost.  

Well, sometimes bad things happen lol

Look, honestly, if Internacional had better performance in these last rounds, and Palmeiras lost some games, I wouldn't doubt that there would be a chance for Internacional to be champion of the Brasileirão (a small chance, but there would be lol)

Worst of all were my co-workers who are Palmeiras fans, I had to put up with them all day, yeah, I confess it was hard lol

[rdluffy]

Speaking of places for Libertadores...
Is there any other continental competition where clubs participate besides Libertadores?
For example, in Europe there is the Champions League and the Europa League.

Hey Joker, there's a similar competition, just like Europa League, it's  Copa Sul-Americana.
It's official, organized by Conmebol and it's a secondary competition. Obviously every team focus to get a spot on Libertadores, but Sul Amaericana is important too, they give a good amount of money to teams, and in the quarter finals rounds give us good matches to watch.

Here's the official webpage: https://www.conmebol.com/pt-br/conmebol-sul-americana/

And there´s more, the champion of Libertadores and the champion of Sul-Americana will play the "Recopa Sul-Americana", it´s a "competition" with only 2 matches to define the "final" champion of Americas 

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think the most interesting games of this journey are Santos vs Corinthians, and America-MG vs Flamengo.
I think Corinthians win their game, as well as Flamengo wins too. Maybe it's two sure bets, but it shouldn't give you a lot of money.

Yes... despite the Santos x Corinthians will be a classic match, it will be an interesting game!
I don't know how the Corinthians roster is after the game against Flamengo in the final's of Copa do Brasil... maybe they will go with "max power" to get a guaranteed place in the next Libertadores. Corinthians is in 5th place in the championship (tied with Flamengo)

Corinthians vs Santos will be an interesting match, but I believe Flamengo vs America-MG can be an easy game for Flamengo (in my opinion)

The truth is that in this part I don't know what could happen, the truth is that both teams like me, although I think that I would gladly go for Santos, I have also seen Santos play live and direct, I like the way they do it, it is also the team del Ney, then the team has a good history, I like Corinthas their style, and the heart they put into it, but for special reasons they disappointed me when they were at their best, and that shouldn't be the case, in In the case of the Flmanego match, I will always support Flamengo, for now my teams have not changed, which are two, Palmeiras and Santos, they are the best teams that Brazil has, of course this is my opinion.

we are really close to the finals now
last 2 weeks of championship

the finals of Brasileirão 2022 are expected to happen on November 13th.

 

here we have the updated tables in case anyone wants to check
https://www.cbf.com.br/futebol-brasileiro/competicoes/campeonato-brasileiro-serie-a/2022

Yes... great observation!!
I believe the championship is already decided, but with some minor changes.
By the way, I sincerely hope that my Sao Paulo can get some victories in these last games, to at least be able to climb to 6th place and try to get a spot for the next Libertadores... 

I would also say that everything is already resolved and on the table, there is nothing for us to do now, and I see that Sao Paulo is your team, it is a very strong team, in reality the only thing that matters to me in this championship is that Palmeiras is always in Libertadores, despite the fact that my natural team is Deportivo Táchira, I am aware that they have no life with Palmeiras, sometimes it is difficult to recognize it, but you cannot cover the sun with a finger, and really I think that the Brazilian teams, all of them have a very high level, even from Latin America I like to see the clashes of the Brazilians against Argenitos, a Palmeiras vs Boca Jr, it is worthy of a final and very exciting, something like that.

[joker_josue]

And there´s more, the champion of Libertadores and the champion of Sul-Americana will play the "Recopa Sul-Americana", it´s a "competition" with only 2 matches to define the "final" champion of Americas 

Thanks for the information.
In Europe we also have something similar, which is the UEFA Super Cup, which is the winner of the Champions League against the winner of the Europa League.


I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate the Palmeiras fans on the victory of the Brasileirão!
It was another fantastic year for you, will you repeat it next year? 

[gagux123]

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Yes, absolutely this is something relevant and it could happen!
Practically the Brazilian championship is "closed/ended", and some teams may have some opportunity to move up in the championship ranking.

I believe that teams that are vying for a spot in Libertadores and other teams that are in the relegation zone will do everything to achieve their goals!