Brasileirão 2022 - Brazilian Championship Serie A

[alegotardo]

Yes, absolutely this is something relevant and it could happen!
Practically the Brazilian championship is "closed/ended", and some teams may have some opportunity to move up in the championship ranking.

I believe that teams that are vying for a spot in Libertadores and other teams that are in the relegation zone will do everything to achieve their goals!

Speaking of relegation.... let's go to the numbers, because I love researching probabilities and I want to share with you the fantastic data that UFMG discloses about the championship.
Juventude and Avaí are already relegated, unfortunately these are two teams that will compete in the B series next year.
Ceará and Atlético-GO have a 92% and 91% chance of being relegated and will most likely join Juventude and Avaí, as Cuiabá and Coritiba are next with only a 10% and 5% chance of being relegated.

[gagux123]

Speaking of relegation.... let's go to the numbers, because I love researching probabilities and I want to share with you the fantastic data that UFMG discloses about the championship.
Juventude and Avaí are already relegated, unfortunately these are two teams that will compete in the B series next year.
Ceará and Atlético-GO have a 92% and 91% chance of being relegated and will most likely join Juventude and Avaí, as Cuiabá and Coritiba are next with only a 10% and 5% chance of being relegated.

What a very interesting data site, thanks for sharing it with us, @alegotardo
I confess that I had never heard of her.

Well, at least São Paulo still has ~30.3% chance of going to Libertadores and ~69.7% of going to Sulamericana 

[rdluffy]

With only 2 matches remaining, it's pretty interesting to see there's only 3 teams there already "finished" brasileirão and have nothing to do anymore.
Palmeiras the winner, Avaí and Juventude already demoted to B series.

All another 17 teams have something to do and can change positions

This is the list of teams who still have chances to classify, to have a better position or to try to avoid being demoted


Goiás and Bragantino trying to get a spot to Sul Americana
São Paulo, Atlético MG and América MG trying to get a spot to Libertadores pre-qualify

in my opinion these above are the best teams and matches to bet on, because they will do their best to win

[joker_josue]

Palmeiras the winner, Avaí and Juventude already demoted to B series.

I didn't understand this statement... Yes, Palmeiras has already won, but at the end of the table there may still be changes.

There are still 6 points at stake. If Cuiabá loses both games, since devision, if Atletico-GO or Ceará, win both games. Therefore, the descent to series B will still be done in threes, at least until the next round.

[gagux123]

With only 2 matches remaining, it's pretty interesting to see there's only 3 teams there already "finished" brasileirão and have nothing to do anymore.
Palmeiras the winner, Avaí and Juventude already demoted to B series.

All another 17 teams have something to do and can change positions

This is the list of teams who still have chances to classify, to have a better position or to try to avoid being demoted


Goiás and Bragantino trying to get a spot to Sul Americana
São Paulo, Atlético MG and América MG trying to get a spot to Libertadores pre-qualify

in my opinion these above are the best teams and matches to bet on, because they will do their best to win

Excellent observation!
I was convinced that Flamengo would be able to move up to third place or maybe fourth, but that's not happening.
Fluminense managed to have some important victories and with that managed to get away from the fourth place.

I believe that between fourth place and tenth or twelfth, several things can happen, because what separates the teams are a few points of difference.... let's see how this championship final will end.

[Lucasgabd]

at this point the most interesting bet is probably who'll finish 3rd to 6th
may be a tuff spot to be on the 7th or 8th position and loose the chance to go to the other big championship (what was the next one again?)

[alegotardo]

at this point the most interesting bet is probably who'll finish 3rd to 6th
may be a tuff spot to be on the 7th or 8th position and loose the chance to go to the other big championship (what was the next one again?)

Currently, the six best places guarantee a spot for the Libertadores... seventh and eighth contest for the "pré-libertadores", then comes the "Sul Americana" for those who qualify up to the fourteenth position of the championship.
However, I've been reading that next year it is likely that Brazil will be able to guarantee up to 9 places for the Libertadores Cup.

[joker_josue]

Currently, the six best places guarantee a spot for the Libertadores... seventh and eighth contest for the "pré-libertadores", then comes the "Sul Americana" for those who qualify up to the fourteenth position of the championship.
However, I've been reading that next year it is likely that Brazil will be able to guarantee up to 9 places for the Libertadores Cup.

I had no idea that there were so many vacancies for Brazilian clubs. These are certainly excellent financial aids for clubs, even the smallest ones. Some clubs should already be very happy if they manage to stay in the top 10, as this gives them a spot in the international competition and some extra money comes in.

On that basis, in all these places being defined, we will have some level of competition in the games until the end of the season.

[Lucasgabd]

at this point the most interesting bet is probably who'll finish 3rd to 6th
may be a tuff spot to be on the 7th or 8th position and loose the chance to go to the other big championship (what was the next one again?)

Currently, the six best places guarantee a spot for the Libertadores... seventh and eighth contest for the "pré-libertadores", then comes the "Sul Americana" for those who qualify up to the fourteenth position of the championship.
However, I've been reading that next year it is likely that Brazil will be able to guarantee up to 9 places for the Libertadores Cup.

interesting, do you know why this change happened? (or may happen)

Currently, the six best places guarantee a spot for the Libertadores... seventh and eighth contest for the "pré-libertadores", then comes the "Sul Americana" for those who qualify up to the fourteenth position of the championship.
However, I've been reading that next year it is likely that Brazil will be able to guarantee up to 9 places for the Libertadores Cup.

I had no idea that there were so many vacancies for Brazilian clubs. These are certainly excellent financial aids for clubs, even the smallest ones. Some clubs should already be very happy if they manage to stay in the top 10, as this gives them a spot in the international competition and some extra money comes in.

On that basis, in all these places being defined, we will have some level of competition in the games until the end of the season.

money comes in only for the first places, not all of them, right?
what are the money prizes for the winners of  Brasileirão and Libertadores?

[joker_josue]

money comes in only for the first places, not all of them, right?
what are the money prizes for the winners of  Brasileirão and Libertadores?

It's not just the winner who makes money in Libertadores. All participating clubs receive money, for participating, for victories and each time they pass the next stage:

Prize money
As of 2019, clubs in the Copa Libertadores receive US$500,000 for advancing into the second stage and US$1,000,000 per home match in the group phase. That amount is derived from television rights and stadium advertising. The payment per home match increases to US$1,050,000 in the round of 16. The prize money then increases as each quarterfinalist receives US$1,200,000, US$1,750,000 is given to each semifinalist, US$6,000,000 is awarded to the runner-up, and the winner earns US$12,000,000.

Eliminated at the first stage: US$350,000
Eliminated at the second stage: US$500,000
Eliminated at the third stage: US$550,000
Group stage: US$3,000,000
Round of 16: US$1,050,000
Quarter-finals: US$1,200,000
Semi-finals: US$1,750,000
Runners-up: US$6,000,000
Champions: US$12,000,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores#Prize_money

[rdluffy]

money comes in only for the first places, not all of them, right?
what are the money prizes for the winners of  Brasileirão and Libertadores?

Joker already said, but I want to add something
All teams need money to travel to another countries, and the money of participation helps. Teams of Brazil or big teams doesn't have any problems, but small teams really need that money to pay expenses.

Talking about Brasileiro, top 16 teams will receive money, this is the list, and it's in BRL

1 - R$ 45,0 millions
2 - R$ 42,7 millions
3 - R$ 40,5 millions
4 - R$ 38,2 millions
5 - R$ 36,0 millions
6 - R$ 33,7 millions
7 - R$ 31,5 millions
8 - R$ 29,2 millions
9 - R$ 27,0 millions
10 - R$ 24,7 millions
11 - R$ 19,3 millions
12 - R$ 18,0 millions
13 - R$ 16,6 millions
14 - R$ 16,2 millions
15 - R$ 15,7 millions
16 - R$ 15,2 millions

Source: https://ge.globo.com/futebol/brasileirao-serie-a/noticia/2022/10/21/premiacao-do-brasileirao-veja-quanto-cada-time-deve-receber.ghtml

[Lucasgabd]

not bad
where do all the prizes come from? I imagine that CBF manages this or some similar institution
and that the money comes from a mix of sponsorships, tickets... but what else?

EDIT: made this post originally in portuguese as a mistake, just corrected it

[rdluffy]

...

It's from CBF, there's no other company / federation, only CBF

The money came from several sources like sponsors, tv rights, royalties, fees from players / negotiations, merchandise, licensed products etc
It´s a multi millionaire industry hehehe

Interesting fact: there's a lot of web casinos and gamble websites sponsoring brasileiro, it's easy to identify and they payed a great amount of money to CBF and teams.

[gagux123]

Well, so that someone doesn't have the knowledge... officially Palmeiras is already champion of the Brasileirao!

By the way, and for you guys!?? What are your bets on the other teams in the classification?
And for relegation?

[LUCKMCFLY]

who do you think will finish 3rd and 4th?

The way the score is close, disregarding the leadership of Palmeiras... it is very difficult to predict who will finish the championship in which position.
If it was a knockout type competition it would even be easier, but as it is by points it is very difficult to predict.

However, I believe that the following teams will qualify for Conmebol Libertadores 2023:
Palmeiras, Internacional, Flamengo, Corinthians, Atlético-MG and São Paulo

Six in the Brasileirão, right?

Wow, my Palmeiras is a team that it never fails, I'm surprised to see that Santos is not there, but that's football now, and Internacional is a team that surprises me, because I've seen many who are betting there more than Flamengo and Flamengo is a team that I like their game, their players do well, I like the way they understand each other when they get to the small area to hit the ball, in Corinthians it is a team that has it all, but I think it has to have a better psychologist, the players in the face of any eventuality or any internal problem should not affect them more in their game, and this is something that affected a lot.

money comes in only for the first places, not all of them, right?
what are the money prizes for the winners of  Brasileirão and Libertadores?

It's not just the winner who makes money in Libertadores. All participating clubs receive money, for participating, for victories and each time they pass the next stage:

Prize money
As of 2019, clubs in the Copa Libertadores receive US$500,000 for advancing into the second stage and US$1,000,000 per home match in the group phase. That amount is derived from television rights and stadium advertising. The payment per home match increases to US$1,050,000 in the round of 16. The prize money then increases as each quarterfinalist receives US$1,200,000, US$1,750,000 is given to each semifinalist, US$6,000,000 is awarded to the runner-up, and the winner earns US$12,000,000.

Eliminated at the first stage: US$350,000
Eliminated at the second stage: US$500,000
Eliminated at the third stage: US$550,000
Group stage: US$3,000,000
Round of 16: US$1,050,000
Quarter-finals: US$1,200,000
Semi-finals: US$1,750,000
Runners-up: US$6,000,000
Champions: US$12,000,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores#Prize_money

I see a big question and everything they win is very interesting, it is impressive, the truth is they did not know that they could win so much, it seems to me that it is something for which the teams can be motivated, I know that the highest prize is $12 M, wow it's a lot of money, and for some players in Europe this is only part of what they earn, and here in the Brasileirao it represents so much and in the Copa Libertadores too, wow the truth seems to me that it's quite a lot of money, there is to recognize it.

And I dare to say that Palmeiras will take all this, they have a great line-up and the way they are playing is very likely, for me in the Copa Libertadores the strongest teams apart from Brazil are the Argentines.

[Dubaian]

Brazilian Serie A Table top 5 Rank 2022
1. Palmeiras GD 42 point 81
2. Internacional GD 24 point 70
3. Fluminense GD 21 point 67
4. Corinthians GD 9 point 65
5. Flamengo GD 22 point 62
 These teams are currently ahead in terms of the highest ranking, other teams have not been able to advance so much. Each team's group points are very good.Palmeiras team is very strong and they can perform the best in the field which is why they lead the group points the most. And this team has a lot of good stars which is why losing this team could not reduce their group points.

[rdluffy]

Well, so that someone doesn't have the knowledge... officially Palmeiras is already champion of the Brasileirao!

By the way, and for you guys!?? What are your bets on the other teams in the classification?
And for relegation?

In my opinion, there's some good matches remaning to do some money in the end rounds

Corinthians (3.20) vs Atlético MG (2.35)
I don't know why Atlético is the favorite in this odd, but it's weird, since Corinthians will play in home, and it's in 4th place
Thinking about to put 20 USD in this bet

[gagux123]

In my opinion, there's some good matches remaning to do some money in the end rounds

Corinthians (3.20) vs Atlético MG (2.35)
I don't know why Atlético is the favorite in this odd, but it's weird, since Corinthians will play in home, and it's in 4th place
Thinking about to put 20 USD in this bet

Yes, absolutely, that was a good observation!!
I have no doubt that we will have some interesting games and even some that are easy to predict.

This game you mentioned between Corinthians vs Atletico MG is a good opportunity to bet lol
I will also analyze some probabilities in relation to this game that we will have tomorrow.

[Ratash]

What a surprise we have seen today avai team managed to beat flamengo in an away game and whats crazy is that the odds for avai were extremly high x17 for them to win i don't expect anyone made a bet on them, this is their second win in a row but wha'ts sad is that even with this win they are relegated and they will be playing in the serie B next season.

[gagux123]

What a surprise we have seen today avai team managed to beat flamengo in an away game and whats crazy is that the odds for avai were extremly high x17 for them to win i don't expect anyone made a bet on them, this is their second win in a row but wha'ts sad is that even with this win they are relegated and they will be playing in the serie B next season.

I was also surprised by Avai victory against Flamengo (and they still won in a comeback)
Flamengo was practically with the main team, and they were also playing at home (Maracana). Even so, Avai was superior and won the game against Flamengo, but unfortunately it wasn't enough, because in any case next year they will play the B series of the Brasileirao.