Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[BADecker]

Russia is almost home in New Russia. Once she gets there, her next stop is Europe.

If Russia entered Europe it would end with Russia having to resort to nuclear weapons to save itself. Even with its combined states in tow Russia would be no match for the Europeans on the technological level alone not to mention NATO is obliged to engage if this happened. Any use of nuclear weapons by Russia would mean the immediate end to Russia and its allies and most of the planet along with it. Of course there are some completely insane people on the planet who would have no issue with this.

Maybe Putin is thanking his partners, the EU and European NATO, who are giving Ukraine to Russia. Poor little Zelensky. Big, strong Europe tricked him. They haven't helped him take back the Black Sea Corridor at all. In fact, they are giving all of Ukraine over to Putin. Of course, they don't want to let anybody know that they are the ones who are winning the war for Russia. So, they have to hit Russia a little.


Nobody can tell what the final outcome will be, but by the looks of it right now, Ukraine is done, the people of the EU are as much against their own leaders as they might be against Putin, the financial systems of the EU are entering such turmoil that nobody knows if they will last or not, Trump is making MAGA work against all the adverse media that the banks are doing against him, and MAGA is aligning with Russia against Europe. If the EU wants the oil from Russia, they will have to buy it from Trump.

Big bully-against-Ukraine Europe. I never though the European West could fall like that.

[DaRude]

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Think it's time to send in Nuland with cookies to Paris? I'll never understand why EU leaders decided to destroy EU over Ukraine, surely this surprises no one. Just need to send few billion dollars more to Zelenskiy

[montaga]

VK and Sber are completely down
Ukraine gave up a nuclear arsenal valued at over $1 trillion dollars, including 4,500 nuclear warheads for peace.
No country would surrender 20% of the territory for “peace”. Look at Albania after selling some property land to Soros.
JD Vance thinks it is ok to kill Ukraine  children but not bomb Russian diesel facilities.
And Trump, well... https://x.com/sarrah_bellus/status/2112262439110656224/video/1

[DaRude]

VK and Sber are completely down
Ukraine gave up a nuclear arsenal valued at over $1 trillion dollars, including 4,500 nuclear warheads for peace.
No country would surrender 20% of the territory for “peace”. Look at Albania after selling some property land to Soros.
JD Vance thinks it is ok to kill Ukraine  children but not bomb Russian diesel facilities.
And Trump, well... https://x.com/sarrah_bellus/status/2112262439110656224/video/1

So first Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal because it trusted joint promises from US and Russia. Then it trusted US, accepted US cookies, overthrew Ukrainian democratically elected president and turned against Russia. Then Ukraine trusted US promises that US will stand with Ukraine against Russia "for as long as it takes". Then Ukraine trusted that US will provide it patriot missiles for defense against Russia. Then Ukraine trusted US and used US satellites for all of its communications. Then it trusted US to give how many million of Ukrainian hectors to US agricultural companies? Then Ukraine trusted US and promised 50% of all new natural minerals/resources to US. Then Ukraine trusted the US that it should continue to fight when it became obvious to everyone that the war has switched to a war of attrition against Russia. And now, just fucking now, Ukraine starts to feel betrayed, and starts to question the basis for all of this trust? Is that like some fucked up mass Stockholm syndrome? Do you think Ukrainian leaders said no, we don't want to have a balanced compromise with both sides, we'd rather take our chances like Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, look how well they turned out?

If even this dumb bot is starting to realize this, perhaps it can even entertain us by drawing some conclusions from all of this? Like where did Ukraine go wrong, situation in Ukraine in 2013 before accepting US cookies vs position that Ukraine finds itself in now, compare what was offered in Minsk agreements to what Ukraine can receive now? Why US didn't provide security guarantees to Russia in 2021? Something something about keeping all your eggs in one basket? Or nah, fuck all that, just keep cherry picking some positive news in the last attempt to scrape few more Ukrainian souls for the front lines. Borders of 1991 and siege of Moscow surely any minute now, just step into this minivan...

[montaga]

You forgot Ukraine trusted US to send 5000 of its soldiers to Irak, Afghan wars.
US has not send any money of support since beginning of last year and somehow wants to negotiate.
The first to surrender in in conflict is Washington, not Ukraine or Russia.

In October the one Russian soldier eliminated  from the battlefield every 2 minutes and 42 seconds. Ukraine AI drones become become dangerously effective.
The current radio for wounded is 7 to 1 and for the dead 10 to 1
Looks like rough night for St. Petersburg ,,,,,

BTW

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Think it's time to send in Nuland with cookies to Paris?

It reeks very much like a inside job. Hegelian dialectic.


Ivanka and Putin's girlfriend way back

[DaRude]

You forgot Ukraine trusted US to send 5000 of its soldiers to Irak, Afghan wars.
US has not send any money of support since beginning of last year and somehow wants to negotiate.
The first to surrender in in conflict is Washington, not Ukraine or Russia.

In October the one Russian soldier eliminated  from the battlefield every 2 minutes and 42 seconds. Ukraine AI drones become become dangerously effective.
Looks like rough night for St. Petersburg ,,,,,

BTW

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Think it's time to send in Nuland with cookies to Paris?

It reeks very much like a inside job. Hegelian dialectic.

View it as you wish, view it as Washington's surrender, if that helps you. What conclusion should Ukrainians draw from all of their government's decisions since 2013? Or non whatsoever, UA leaders made great choices and Ukrainian population should continue to be encouraged to just stay on this course until borders of 1991 or last Ukrainian

[hellflame]

Everyone knows you should always reject cookies especially non essential ones from 3rd parties but it makes no difference because they will still make you eat those cookies anyway one way or the other. The globalists don't care about you or your feelings and while you argue here about good cop and bad cop both of them will share the spoils according to how many pawns and other players play for them because that is all you are to them. Speaking of global elite did you know that Irish protestants made huge profits during a so called potato famine in apartheid Ireland while their segregated catholic brothers and sisters were by legislation not allowed to go to school, get employment in any commercial setting, own land,livestock or grow crops apart from potatoes on the side of the road which was public common ground? Did you know they could be shot on sight if poaching game or even fishing in a river? While the "famine" took place food exports were increased 3 fold with record profits made by merchants and food commodity brokers in Ireland supplying rotherdam and liverpool ports with Irish beef, poultry,game,venison,dairy etc etc while imported indian grain was given to the catholic populace who refused it in many cases. In fact places like waterford were so busy exporting food they had to import immigrants from mainland europe to work in the docks instead of employing catholics who were forced out or starve or be deported to tasmania or australian penal colonies to be worked to death.If anyone are the real children of abraham,issac and jacob it is these folk while venomous spiteful haters "debunk" their harp and "factcheck" their stone of destiny.


Now the question is if globalist pharisee elites will do this to their own nationals what would they do to the whole of the worlds peoples? Fun fact: the father of globalism is an Irish guy called sutherland and everytime you get radiotherapy before getting on your flight you also have another one of these elite folk to thank for your intrusive experience. In fact everytime you tap your creditcard or take that selfie for your kyc on your crypto exchange. https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/dermot-desmond-s-daon-will-know-all-about-us-yet-we-know-nothing-of-it-1.3270030 Yet do you imagine for a second these elites are inconvenienced for even a moment before boarding their private jets?

You ALL are dummies because like I said earlier the whole ukraine / russia war is a slow cook until the real act happens with their blackouts, economic crash, food shortage etc. ITS ALL PLANNED.

Also the maga dummies larping while a citizen from their country can literally be bankrupted if they get ill and have to visit a hospital are probably the worst dummies of them all. Keep following the pied pipers into the abyss dummies while they literally sell out the country to others who will have an up and running social credit system up and running and get ready to buy whats left of it for themselves or do as that other globalist demagogue said and leave the world behind because these people are lining you all up for the mark of the beast.

[BADecker]

Zelensky doesn't care anything about the people of Ukraine. How can we tell? Because he has all kinds of manufacturing of military war machines, stuck right in the populated areas of Ukraine. He does this simply to protect war manufacturing, hoping that Putin will feel sympathetic towards Ukrainian people, and not bomb Z's war buildings.

Meanwhile, Putin and his military are so careful, that they take out Z's war manufacturing facilities without harming most civilians. Sure, once in a while somebody gets hurt. That's what happens in war. But Z isn't anywhere near that careful about not harming Russians with his bombardments. In fact, Z wants to hit Russian civilians, with the hopes that he can stir up trouble for Putin right in Russia.

Time for Z and his war generals to be arrested, and stand accused in trials like the Nuremberg Trials of WW2.

[montaga]

.............stay on this course until borders of 1991 ...........

Ukraine will stay on course until the Russian recognized border in several agreements is reaffirmed.
Kapotnya refinery burning in Moscow
People already wait for 60 hours at Sheremetyevo Airport
FSB active in Chechnya pro-independence mujahideen are on the move. Gun shots in Gudermes and Grozny.
Russians need visa for Montenegro starting November 1, winning at all fronts.

Lasting peace can not be enforced, it has to form naturally. Give land away does not give peace.

Seen other variants of it, but absolute classic
https://x.com/vrhunskeprice/status/2112546472461750486/video/1

[DaRude]

.............stay on this course until borders of 1991 or last Ukrainian ...........

Ukraine will stay on course until the Russian recognized border in several agreements is reaffirmed.
...

So all-or-nothing, until the last Ukrainian. Your position is recognized. Now, if Ukraine ends up accepting worse terms than were offered at the Minsk agreements, Istanbul negotiations etc etc etc... should people encouraging Ukraine to continue to fight despite all of the evidence to the contrary be held accountable/responsible? Or propagandists get full immunity and can continue to push Ukraine to fight despite Ukrainians getting in a worse position and regardless of the outcome for Ukrainians?

[Lucius]

We can see just how disgusting US policy is these days, when from the US president on down, everyone is doing their best to sabotage Ukraine in every possible way. Calling a man whom most of the civilized world compares to a modern Hitler a humanitarian is absolutely disgusting US policy. Now it has been shown that there is not too much of a difference between the one who carries out crimes and aggression and the one who supports him in it.

[paxmao]

We can see just how disgusting US policy is these days, when from the US president on down, everyone is doing their best to sabotage Ukraine in every possible way. Calling a man whom most of the civilized world compares to a modern Hitler a humanitarian is absolutely disgusting US policy. Now it has been shown that there is not too much of a difference between the one who carries out crimes and aggression and the one who supports him in it.

All this sounds quite desperate to be honest. For Trump to try blaming Ukraine for fuel prices, demanding a capitulation (yes, he says deal, but he means capitulation like DaRude when he says "peace") something is going wrong for MAGA.... All this is pointing to a disaster in the mid-terms. Next step for Trump is to judicialize the results where not convenient for him.

In the end, he did not end the war in Ukraine, did not lower inflation (rather the opposite), did not reduce the debt (rather the opposite), continued with tax breaks for the 1%, ... These do matter for some of the MAGA voters.

Other matter to some MAGA voters, like market manipulation, dealing with privileged information, charging for access to Trump´s tweets about the ongoing war, entering the Iran war without a clear exit plan, reputational damage across middle east countries, support to the current Israeli government beyond what would be reasonable.

There are many other things like the ideological impositions to unis, the ICE harassment and daylight executions of people, the concentration camps for immigrants and US citizen arrests based on skin colour or assumed background, ... All these do not matter much for MAGA voters (well, maybe Latinos finally understand "American Race" means not them).

.............stay on this course until borders of 1991 or last Ukrainian ...........

Ukraine will stay on course until the Russian recognized border in several agreements is reaffirmed.
...

So all-or-nothing, until the last Ukrainian. Your position is recognized. Now, if Ukraine ends up accepting worse terms than were offered at the Minsk agreements, Istanbul negotiations etc etc etc... should people encouraging Ukraine to continue to fight despite all of the evidence to the contrary be held accountable/responsible? Or propagandists get full immunity and can continue to push Ukraine to fight despite Ukrainians getting in a worse position and regardless of the outcome for Ukrainians?

It is never all or nothing, it is about a peace that can last. If Putin gets the Donbas, he goes to war again in 3 to 5 years, with a better army, more money and more carefully removing reserves from Europe before going to war.

BTW, at this rate it may be "to the last Ruzzian".

[BADecker]

We can see just how disgusting US policy is these days, when from the US president on down, everyone is doing their best to sabotage Ukraine in every possible way. Calling a man whom most of the civilized world compares to a modern Hitler a humanitarian is absolutely disgusting US policy. Now it has been shown that there is not too much of a difference between the one who carries out crimes and aggression and the one who supports him in it.

All this sounds quite desperate to be honest. For Trump to try blaming Ukraine for fuel prices, demanding a capitulation (yes, he says deal, but he means capitulation like DaRude when he says "peace") something is going wrong for MAGA.... All this is pointing to a disaster in the mid-terms. Next step for Trump is to judicialize the results where not convenient for him.

In the end, he did not end the war in Ukraine, did not lower inflation (rather the opposite), did not reduce the debt (rather the opposite), continued with tax breaks for the 1%, ... These do matter for some of the MAGA voters.

Other matter to some MAGA voters, like market manipulation, dealing with privileged information, charging for access to Trump´s tweets about the ongoing war, entering the Iran war without a clear exit plan, reputational damage across middle east countries, support to the current Israeli government beyond what would be reasonable.

There are many other things like the ideological impositions to unis, the ICE harassment and daylight executions of people, the concentration camps for immigrants and US citizen arrests based on skin colour or assumed background, ... All these do not matter much for MAGA voters (well, maybe Latinos finally understand "American Race" means not them).

.............stay on this course until borders of 1991 or last Ukrainian ...........

Ukraine will stay on course until the Russian recognized border in several agreements is reaffirmed.
...

So all-or-nothing, until the last Ukrainian. Your position is recognized. Now, if Ukraine ends up accepting worse terms than were offered at the Minsk agreements, Istanbul negotiations etc etc etc... should people encouraging Ukraine to continue to fight despite all of the evidence to the contrary be held accountable/responsible? Or propagandists get full immunity and can continue to push Ukraine to fight despite Ukrainians getting in a worse position and regardless of the outcome for Ukrainians?

It is never all or nothing, it is about a peace that can last. If Putin gets the Donbas, he goes to war again in 3 to 5 years, with a better army, more money and more carefully removing reserves from Europe before going to war.

BTW, at this rate it may be "to the last Ruzzian".

Until you realize that All Wars Are Bankers' Wars, you don't really have a clue.

[DaRude]

We can see just how disgusting US policy is these days, when from the US president on down, everyone is doing their best to sabotage Ukraine in every possible way. Calling a man whom most of the civilized world compares to a modern Hitler a humanitarian is absolutely disgusting US policy. Now it has been shown that there is not too much of a difference between the one who carries out crimes and aggression and the one who supports him in it.

All this sounds quite desperate to be honest. For Trump to try blaming Ukraine for fuel prices, demanding a capitulation (yes, he says deal, but he means capitulation like DaRude when he says "peace") something is going wrong for MAGA.... All this is pointing to a disaster in the mid-terms. Next step for Trump is to judicialize the results where not convenient for him.

In the end, he did not end the war in Ukraine, did not lower inflation (rather the opposite), did not reduce the debt (rather the opposite), continued with tax breaks for the 1%, ... These do matter for some of the MAGA voters.

Other matter to some MAGA voters, like market manipulation, dealing with privileged information, charging for access to Trump´s tweets about the ongoing war, entering the Iran war without a clear exit plan, reputational damage across middle east countries, support to the current Israeli government beyond what would be reasonable.

There are many other things like the ideological impositions to unis, the ICE harassment and daylight executions of people, the concentration camps for immigrants and US citizen arrests based on skin colour or assumed background, ... All these do not matter much for MAGA voters (well, maybe Latinos finally understand "American Race" means not them).

.............stay on this course until borders of 1991 or last Ukrainian ...........

Ukraine will stay on course until the Russian recognized border in several agreements is reaffirmed.
...

So all-or-nothing, until the last Ukrainian. Your position is recognized. Now, if Ukraine ends up accepting worse terms than were offered at the Minsk agreements, Istanbul negotiations etc etc etc... should people encouraging Ukraine to continue to fight despite all of the evidence to the contrary be held accountable/responsible? Or propagandists get full immunity and can continue to push Ukraine to fight despite Ukrainians getting in a worse position and regardless of the outcome for Ukrainians?

It is never all or nothing, it is about a peace that can last. If Putin gets the Donbas, he goes to war again in 3 to 5 years, with a better army, more money and more carefully removing reserves from Europe before going to war.

BTW, at this rate it may be "to the last Ruzzian".

We all know the results of Zelenskiy's 40-day campaign to force Russia to end the war by attacking Russia's oil from June. The 40 day timeline was not random, it aligned with Russia's peak oil demand, and ends before US midterms start to campaign. We're now at the end of October going into November, well past Russia's summer peak oil demand, so any major oil shortages in Russia are highly unlikely now. But as everyone knows cost of petrol sways elections in US. So why wouldn't EU clowns provide intelligence to Zelenskiy to undercut Trump and at least try to bring democrats to congress at US midterms?

September 24, 2024-Donald Trump says Zelenskiy wants Democrats to win US election
October 20, 2026-Why Trump Is Furious at Ukraine The president thinks the country [Ukraine] is trying to undermine his party’s chances in the midterm elections.

Trump is not a total idiot (or at least has advisors that tell him what's going on). Musk also sees what the "left" is doing, thus Ukraine's Starlink "problems". But regardless of the outcome of the midterms, Trump will still be US president for the next 2 years. But EU clowns don't care, as they know that they're on their way out anyway, so this is just their and Zelenskiy's last "Fuck You" to Trump.

Agree, it's not about Donbas. that's why Russian culture, open borders, business, religion, language etc... must be returned back to ALL of Ukraine as part of any peace plan. Did you already forget, or rewrite the history, Ukraine was in a balance and did have a lasting peace before 2014 and cookies arriving. Things going back to status quo of 2013 is the only realistic lasting peace solution here, anything else is temporary at best. Anyone that believes that Russia (who hasn't even fully mobilized) can run out of soldiers before Ukraine (in it's 5th year of full mobilization), is just clinically delusional.

[Branko]

Regarding cookies:

[montaga]

Putin is at a dead end: he can not win the war and can not end the war.

[paxmao]

Regarding cookies:

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Over and over with the cookie theory. A whole country does not run on cookies nor can hold a 4 year war on cookies. People in Ukraine are obviously against the Ruzzian occupation and that is evident to everyone by now.


Ukraine will not surrender the most fortified areas of the country for a piece of paper and Ruzzia seems unable to take it. Putin cannot end the war. Ruzzia has to solve Ruzzia.

And now that we are at it, US has to solve the US, with the advantage of not needing windows or tea to do so.

[Branko]

Regarding cookies:

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Over and over with the cookie theory. A whole country does not run on cookies nor can hold a 4 year war on cookies. People in Ukraine are obviously against the Ruzzian occupation and that is evident to everyone by now.


Ukraine will not surrender the most fortified areas of the country for a piece of paper and Ruzzia seems unable to take it. Putin cannot end the war. Ruzzia has to solve Ruzzia.

And now that we are at it, US has to solve the US, with the advantage of not needing windows or tea to do so.

Oh, how naive some people can be:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/scientists-missing-dead-fbi-nuclear-space-ufo-b2965352.html

https://legacyfirearmsco.com/news/the-list-of-clinton-associates-who-died-mysteriously-check-it-out/

https://www.newsweek.com/boeing-dead-whistleblowers-joshua-dean-john-barnett-1922941

[DaRude]

Regarding cookies:

Love it. Then Russians should have a discussion on  who should hold positions in the future France government. Everyone that supported Nuland should fully support this for real too! But something is telling me that the average media consumer is unable to even draw parallels and with the current level of hypocrisy and double standards, media will still somehow try to spin this as: Nuland doing it in Ukraine = good freedom cookies, Russia doing same thing in France = evil pancakes, totally unacceptable political interference in internal conflict, hybrid war blah blah blah...

Regarding cookies:

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Over and over with the cookie theory. A whole country does not run on cookies nor can hold a 4 year war on cookies. People in Ukraine are obviously against the Ruzzian occupation and that is evident to everyone by now.


Ukraine will not surrender the most fortified areas of the country for a piece of paper and Ruzzia seems unable to take it. Putin cannot end the war. Ruzzia has to solve Ruzzia.

And now that we are at it, US has to solve the US, with the advantage of not needing windows or tea to do so.

Cookies are a metaphor, another government directly interfering and sponsoring a coup detat of a democratically elected Ukrainian president, directly leading to this terrible loss of life for the slavs. Five years after accepting those cookies best Ukraine can wish for is to only loose 20% of their land. What a great plan huh, was that by design or by incompetence? Imagine where Ukraine could've been at now had it not accepted those cookies.

And what will you say once Zelenskiy does give up Donbas? Will you man up and concede that you were wrong, and perhaps even attempted to mislead others based on wrong assumptions? Seems like everyone opposing giving up Donbas are now getting a chance to show it by holding Dobropillia (like Azov/UPA/Banderites)

And France needs to solve France, Italy Italy, Germany Germany... great outcome of totally ingenious leaders, can't wait to see statues of them  
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[BADecker]

Putin and Trump Are About To Change Everything In The Ukraine War, Zelensky and Neocons are P*SSED


Putin and Trump Are About To Change Everything In The Ukraine War Zelensky and Neocons are P*SSED - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfQq47zpkyQ