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Question: Who will win the fight?
Fury - 35 (89.7%)
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Author Topic: [ BOXING FURY WON IN ROUND 6 ]: FURY vs WHYTE - THE FIGHT  (Read 1716 times)
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April 25, 2022, 12:46:03 PM
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That Knockout win was a nice way to conclude his boxing career, congratulations to him, he really gives his very best to secure his clean 24-0 record which is one of the best records in the heavyweight division. We have already seen how other boxers struggled to keep their record clean when they are facing some strong opponents and most of them are not successful to do so but Tyson Fury is one of a kind, so retiring after this win is an unforgettable memory for the boxing fans out there.

I like to believe that Fury is heading for retirement but this article I read confirm my opinion that he is still a fight away from retirement and it might be against Joshua if Joshua wins his rematch against Usyk the confirmation is coming from his wife Paris
we all know that wife's always know better and she knows Fury very well than all of us.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/hearn-tyson-fury-anthony-joshua-26789021

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Despite Fury's claim, his wife Paris has stated there is " no chance " he will retire after his latest win. If Joshua can win back his titles, a clash with Fury could still be on the cards according to Paris, as she admitted, "the only reason Tyson would come back would be a unification fight."


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April 25, 2022, 01:20:33 PM
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Was quite a lacklustre fight until that uppercut came out of nowhere.
True. there was not much going on until that point. Whyte was trying to probe and get closer to Fury to land punches but Fury had a game plan and that reach he has with the jab was a great weapon, it rendered the Whyte attack useless and made him look ordinary. Fury did not have to do anything spectacular because he was controlling the fight and taking energy away from Whyte and then the uppercut did the damage and won him the fight.

The Fury's are all a bunch of contradictions. His father comes out with some wise stuff sometimes and then goes and completely contradicts himself in the next sentence.
I think his wife released a statement saying he would be back in the ring again. Will he really be able to walk away knowing a unification fight could be on the cards? He will surely be tempted to go for it. because he could unify the belts then retire.


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April 25, 2022, 02:18:36 PM
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I think his wife released a statement saying he would be back in the ring again. Will he really be able to walk away knowing a unification fight could be on the cards? He will surely be tempted to go for it. because he could unify the belts then retire.

I find it hard to believe he would actually retire now. The unification fight would definitely mark a fitting end, and he would truly then have achieved everything. I can't see him passing up that chance, especially if it's against Joshua (but also if it's Usyk).

One other thing I do still find hard to believe is that Mike Tyson is not even the most successful heavyweight boxer named Tyson!






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April 25, 2022, 07:17:41 PM
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I didn't have the opportunity to see all the rounds in this fight, but I saw the highlights... Fury's punch must really be very deadly for it to have made a mature and experience fighter as Whyte loose balance on his feet, if the fight was allowed to continue, it would have resulted in serious complications for him. If I were other fighters, I'll try and much as possible to avoid Fury.
 
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April 26, 2022, 09:44:00 PM
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I also heard about his retirement plan after his fight against Whyte but I don't think he's going to retire now because he once talked about ending his boxing journey after he defeat Wilder which he didn't retire because he want to fight an opponent that worth handling over the belt to before his retirement and I am sure if Anthony Joshua defeats Usyk in their next fight Fury will like to fight him before he retires.

Don't listen to him regarding retirement. Most of that was likely just trying to sell this fight. He even brought Ngannou out and into the ring after the victory to try hype up the bout so it looks like that fight is probably going to happen next year. I'm sure he will fight the winner of Aj/Usyk as well. Maybe even both of them as AJ will struggle to win the belts back (though I don't think it's impossible). Maybe he will just look to do huge exhibition matches on his own terms but I doubt it's the last we'll see of Fury fighting. Keep an eye out if he vacates the belts or not. If he does then that will be a pretty good indicator he's done with fighting for them but is he going to walk away from the belts that easy? I'm not so sure. I think fights against Usyk/AJ will still be bigger than the Whyte fight so even if AJ doesn't have a belt if that fight comes up I'm sure he will take it again.
This is what I am saying but some people think Fury has made up his mind about retiring forever when the real picture is that he's the kind of person that always come up with the best strategy to sell his fight and has no intention of fighting Ngannou he won't have brought him out and into the ring because this will raise anther topic of him to fight Ngannou probably in his next interview. Besides, him fighting the winner of the fight between AJ and Usyk is something he doesn't want to miss before thinking about retiring.


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April 26, 2022, 10:02:04 PM
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It seems Francis Ngannou is confident he will fight Tyson Fury. He says he is 70% sure he will fight Fury in 2023

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/33807982/70-chance-my-next-opponent-tyson-fury



I find it hard to believe he would actually retire now. The unification fight would definitely mark a fitting end, and he would truly then have achieved everything. I can't see him passing up that chance, especially if it's against Joshua (but also if it's Usyk).

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April 26, 2022, 10:14:29 PM
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I didn't have the opportunity to see all the rounds in this fight, but I saw the highlights... Fury's punch must really be very deadly for it to have made a mature and experience fighter as Whyte loose balance on his feet, if the fight was allowed to continue, it would have resulted in serious complications for him. If I were other fighters, I'll try and much as possible to avoid Fury.
 
When it comes on being technical and being hard puncher then i dont really have doubts for Fury..Its normal for referee to make out some decisions as safe as possible for every fighter.

They wont really be that dumb on letting a fight continue if they do see there's high chance on bigger injuries if it would  be pushed further.

You could really see the reach do really make out some advantage i would say but the power difference is really that noticeable.
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April 26, 2022, 10:47:02 PM
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Its normal for referee to make out some decisions as safe as possible for every fighter.
Obviously Whyte had wobble out when he stands and the referee starts to count but he outbalanced which does indicate that he can't really fight anymore and it was just a good call on saving up his career
rather than on damaging more his brain cells due to punch impact.Some people had been complaining  about that push was illegal and shouldn't really be done but i would say that
push was just right to save up himself for more damage and lets see on how this complaint would actually goes far.

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April 27, 2022, 08:48:19 AM
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Do boxers always have some sort of excuse after a fight? I don't recall this a few years ago, but it seems recently boxers will say anything when they've lost. Wilder, and now Whyte claiming their opponent cheated. Quite frankly, while you might argue the push was illegal, I didn't think it was much in it. Whyte already looked buzzed, and sort of leaned into Fury, very likely a natural reaction to get space, which you see quite a few times in every fight. The reason he went down is because he was so hurt.

Also, I've looked at the replays, and it doesn't appear to show Whyte hitting the back of his head on the canvas after the punch like he claims. While, it might be a little more believable than Wilder's excuses, I don't think there's any real substance behind it.

I'm also convinced that we will see Fury in the ring again, even if it's against Ngannou. Although, the Joshua fight will likely come knocking, for very big money.
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April 27, 2022, 09:23:20 AM
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I am not sure if we will see Fury in a boxing fight again though a hybrid or UFC fight with Ngannou is more probable.

For Fury to fight Joshua there have to be belts on the line otherwise it serves Fury no purpose just for bragging rights. Fury must come out of retirement to fight again and he probably would only do it for a unification fight.

Will Joshua be able to defeat Usyk? I think Usyk will beat Joshua again.

I'm also convinced that we will see Fury in the ring again, even if it's against Ngannou. Although, the Joshua fight will likely come knocking, for very big money.

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April 27, 2022, 10:30:52 AM
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It seems Francis Ngannou is confident he will fight Tyson Fury. He says he is 70% sure he will fight Fury in 2023

Only if he did not sign new contract with UFC.

Ngannou is UFC heavyweight champion right now, with ended contract. If he signs new contract, Dana White wont let him have a boxing match (or other fighters will start a boycott, asking for a raise).

If he does not sign a new contract and fight Tyson Fury, he would earn a lot, but once and he most probably be banned in UFC. Where he would fight next then? Bellator? There are not fighters in heavyweight that can compete with him. Do boxing? It will hard for 35 y.o to start a boxing career on a high level. He will get a title fight in heavyweight at the age of... 40 ? He wont get tops at very beginning. But fighting against punching bags wont bring him good money.

So it is a huge dilemma for Ngannou. Either to continue earning 500k-1kk, or have one huge fight, that might end his career.

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April 27, 2022, 02:00:54 PM
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For Fury to fight Joshua there have to be belts on the line otherwise it serves Fury no purpose just for bragging rights. Fury must come out of retirement to fight again and he probably would only do it for a unification fight.

Will Joshua be able to defeat Usyk? I think Usyk will beat Joshua again.
Despite what Fury might say about legacy, I believe he cares about it more than he would lead you to believe. If he gets offered that Joshua fight with or without the belts, I think he'll take it.

Usyk beats Joshua, unless Joshua wakes up, and goes back to what made him, i.e adopt the more risker brawling type style, ever since he got clipped by Ruiz in their first fight he has been reluctant to get into those exchanges, which ultimately has negatively effected him as a boxer. Joshua isn't highly technical, and I'm not sure why he would pretend to be.

There's a path to beating Usyk, but I'm afraid it has to be via knockout. There isn't any other way for Joshua. Fury on the other hand could knock him out or very well just out point him. Joshua doesn't have that in his locker.

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Despite what Fury might say about legacy, I believe he cares about it more than he would lead you to believe. If he gets offered that Joshua fight with or without the belts, I think he'll take it.

He would 100% take it. Both his dad and wife have said that he would within the last few days. He will care about legacy. What boxer doesn't? He's undefeated but with every fight you risk losing that status and once it's gone it's gone. There's going to be so much money on the line to fight Usyk and AJ that I'm sure it's a risk he's willing to take. I think he wins both fights though.


There's a path to beating Usyk, but I'm afraid it has to be via knockout. There isn't any other way for Joshua. Fury on the other hand could knock him out or very well just out point him. Joshua doesn't have that in his locker.



I think AJ either has to go for the knockout or win it on points. I can't see either happening though. I'm sure AJ will be taking this fight very seriously though as he knows he needs to change things around if he wants the big fights after this.

It seems Francis Ngannou is confident he will fight Tyson Fury. He says he is 70% sure he will fight Fury in 2023

Only if he did not sign new contract with UFC.

Ngannou is UFC heavyweight champion right now, with ended contract. If he signs new contract, Dana White wont let him have a boxing match (or other fighters will start a boycott, asking for a raise).


He's said he won't be signing anything that doesn't allow him to box as well. He did a good interview with True Geordie recently that is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJ-w3sSG58

He seems to be being very reasonable. He's happy to re-sign with the UFC and even do a cross promo event with them for the Fury fight but he has to be allowed to do the Fury fight. If Dana can let Connor do it then he should be able to do it with Francis. Why would he contonie fighting in the UFC for 500k a fight when he get get multiple millions for a boxing match. Francis also explained how he lost a 1 million dollar sponsorship deal with Coinbase because UFC took the Crypto.com deal. Not letting fighters have their own sponsorships like that really stiffs them out of a lot of money. In fact, for the big fighters most of their revenue comes from sponsorships. The UFC is going to end up shooting itself in the foot if they don't compromise a little and start paying fighters what they're worth as the big names will just bounce and leave the organisation as soon as they can.

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He's said he won't be signing anything that doesn't allow him to box as well. He did a good interview with True Geordie recently that is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJ-w3sSG58

He seems to be being very reasonable. He's happy to re-sign with the UFC and even do a cross promo event with them for the Fury fight but he has to be allowed to do the Fury fight. If Dana can let Connor do it then he should be able to do it with Francis. Why would he contonie fighting in the UFC for 500k a fight when he get get multiple millions for a boxing match. Francis also explained how he lost a 1 million dollar sponsorship deal with Coinbase because UFC took the Crypto.com deal. Not letting fighters have their own sponsorships like that really stiffs them out of a lot of money. In fact, for the big fighters most of their revenue comes from sponsorships. The UFC is going to end up shooting itself in the foot if they don't compromise a little and start paying fighters what they're worth as the big names will just bounce and leave the organisation as soon as they can.

I dont know real story behind McGregor boxing fight and UFC, but I know that UFC usually sign 3 fight contract with their fighters. Of course Conor is an exception, but if we look on stats, he had 9 fights (third contract possibly ended), left his belt and went boxing Floyd.

Ngannou can do the same, leave his belt to Cyril Gane, fight Fury and try to get back.

Btw, I think Dana let Conor have that boxing fight, because Conor advanced UFC to a next level, made it earn millions and billions. Ngannou so far is just a heavyweight that knocks out cold. Btw, Ngannou is not the most scary heavyweight in UFC, Derrick Lewis has 21 KO in his record. He is more dangerous right now Cheesy

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He's said he won't be signing anything that doesn't allow him to box as well. He did a good interview with True Geordie recently that is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJ-w3sSG58

He seems to be being very reasonable. He's happy to re-sign with the UFC and even do a cross promo event with them for the Fury fight but he has to be allowed to do the Fury fight. If Dana can let Connor do it then he should be able to do it with Francis. Why would he contonie fighting in the UFC for 500k a fight when he get get multiple millions for a boxing match. Francis also explained how he lost a 1 million dollar sponsorship deal with Coinbase because UFC took the Crypto.com deal. Not letting fighters have their own sponsorships like that really stiffs them out of a lot of money. In fact, for the big fighters most of their revenue comes from sponsorships. The UFC is going to end up shooting itself in the foot if they don't compromise a little and start paying fighters what they're worth as the big names will just bounce and leave the organisation as soon as they can.

I dont know real story behind McGregor boxing fight and UFC, but I know that UFC usually sign 3 fight contract with their fighters. Of course Conor is an exception, but if we look on stats, he had 9 fights (third contract possibly ended), left his belt and went boxing Floyd.

Ngannou can do the same, leave his belt to Cyril Gane, fight Fury and try to get back.

Btw, I think Dana let Conor have that boxing fight, because Conor advanced UFC to a next level, made it earn millions and billions. Ngannou so far is just a heavyweight that knocks out cold. Btw, Ngannou is not the most scary heavyweight in UFC, Derrick Lewis has 21 KO in his record. He is more dangerous right now Cheesy

Derrick Lewis already has bad record including his KO loss to Tai Tuivasa last February. I doubt that he can be categorized as more dangerous than the reigning Champ on heavyweight division. UFC turning to Boxing and Vice versa is bullshit imho because they are just looking for money by doing this plus some ego that they dominate both sports. I never saw a successful fighter that fight on different sports that he was supposed to do except for Brock Lesnar which is very successful on his early stage of his career in UFC.

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Despite what Fury might say about legacy, I believe he cares about it more than he would lead you to believe. If he gets offered that Joshua fight with or without the belts, I think he'll take it.
As far as Fury is concerned, how would taking that fight and winning it improve his legacy?

Usyk beats Joshua, unless Joshua wakes up, and goes back to what made him, i.e adopt the more risker brawling type style, ever since he got clipped by Ruiz in their first fight he has been reluctant to get into those exchanges, which ultimately has negatively effected him as a boxer. Joshua isn't highly technical, and I'm not sure why he would pretend to be.
I noticed that too. In the Ruiz II fight and against Pulev then Usyk, it seemed as though Joshua was not wanting to either unleash massive punches (hit or miss) or get in to those close fighting positions. He may have won the rematch against Ruiz but he still seems to be affected by what happened.

There's a path to beating Usyk, but I'm afraid it has to be via knockout. There isn't any other way for Joshua. Fury on the other hand could knock him out or very well just out point him. Joshua doesn't have that in his locker.
You are right, Joshua will probably not beat Usyk on a points decision and he does not have what Fury can do which is win by knockout or a points decision. When it comes to Joshua, even if he is in the best pre-Ruiz loss shape of his career he will not be able to defeat Usyk as long as Usyk is mentally focused on the fight and that is because Usyk is technically far too good for Joshua.

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April 28, 2022, 11:10:18 PM
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He would 100% take it. Both his dad and wife have said that he would within the last few days. He will care about legacy. What boxer doesn't? He's undefeated but with every fight you risk losing that status and once it's gone it's gone. There's going to be so much money on the line to fight Usyk and AJ that I'm sure it's a risk he's willing to take. I think he wins both fights though.
I think Fury wins both, and to be honest I'd like to see it just so we could settle the debate, as there are definitely those that believe Usyk is the better boxer, which he might be, but he has to prove it, beating Joshua who arguably isn't at his best, isn't saying a lot. I'm not saying that Joshua is a easy fight these days or he's past it, I just believe Ruiz really did dent his sort of invincible attitude.

I don't see Joshua beating Usyk on points, for me the only route to victory for him is either knock out or technical knock out, since I don't see him outboxing Usyk, just as I don't see him out boxing Fury. Whatever the result of the fight, I'd still like to see Fury fight both. Both come with their different problems, but Joshua can knockout anyone, and that is at least more exciting to me than the Usyk fight.
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Gypsy King does the damage, even the upper cut that lead to the KO wasn't a clean one. Dillian went in and was throwing no punches nor keeping his guard up. These shorter guys need to learn how Mike Tyson beat taller guys or better yet watch better boxers like otto wallin. That guy punished Fury but fury won by points.
You can't be Shorter, with a shorter reach and yet be slower. How are you gonna hit the taller guy. undecided. Dillian did rubbish, way worse than wilder.

After Fury's defeat of Whyte I went back to search some of Fury's fights and how he performed in them. Otto Wallin gave Fury a big challenge as I watched his fight https://youtu.be/eh15wZ2zEic. I loved it that someone could draw blood from him. Not even like Wallin is a tall guy. Why are these boxers who are not as tall or big as Fury not fighting him from the inside since they know his reach is longer than theirs? They should learn from that fight and adjust their tactics.
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I dont know real story behind McGregor boxing fight and UFC, but I know that UFC usually sign 3 fight contract with their fighters. Of course Conor is an exception, but if we look on stats, he had 9 fights (third contract possibly ended), left his belt and went boxing Floyd.

Ngannou can do the same, leave his belt to Cyril Gane, fight Fury and try to get back.
Conor McGregor was at the top of UFC winning his second belt when Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather started hyping up the match up and even during that period Dana White was not interested in making that match up but since the hype was that high that every Conor McGregor fans started to believe that he could defeat Floyd Mayweather and that is how the match up was made.

Conor McGregor did not plan on defending any of his belts and he was still the champion when he faced Floyd Mayweather.


Btw, I think Dana let Conor have that boxing fight, because Conor advanced UFC to a next level, made it earn millions and billions. Ngannou so far is just a heavyweight that knocks out cold. Btw, Ngannou is not the most scary heavyweight in UFC, Derrick Lewis has 21 KO in his record. He is more dangerous right now Cheesy
Francis Ngannou is a scary knockout fighter and he could knockout anyone if he is able to connect but for him to think that he could connect a punch to probably one of the greatest boxer is just a dream.
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