[ BOXING FURY WON IN ROUND 6 ]: FURY vs WHYTE - THE FIGHT

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Gypsy King does the damage, even the upper cut that lead to the KO wasn't a clean one. Dillian went in and was throwing no punches nor keeping his guard up. These shorter guys need to learn how Mike Tyson beat taller guys or better yet watch better boxers like otto wallin. That guy punished Fury but fury won by points.
You can't be Shorter, with a shorter reach and yet be slower. How are you gonna hit the taller guy. undecided. Dillian did rubbish, way worse than wilder.

After Fury's defeat of Whyte I went back to search some of Fury's fights and how he performed in them. Otto Wallin gave Fury a big challenge as I watched his fight https://youtu.be/eh15wZ2zEic. I loved it that someone could draw blood from him. Not even like Wallin is a tall guy. Why are these boxers who are not as tall or big as Fury not fighting him from the inside since they know his reach is longer than theirs? They should learn from that fight and adjust their tactics.

Easy to say on doing with in-fighting against Fury which you see that Fury is good when it comes on making out adjustments.If he do sense about in-fighting stance on which obviously he would really be having

disadvantage then he do easily skips out and then try to make out some space to have some good countering and throwing off solid punches making use of reach advantage.

If it were easy to penetrate the defense then his opponent would definitely be doing this but we are seeing the different thing.

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If it were easy to penetrate the defense then his opponent would definitely be doing this but we are seeing the different thing.

Am not saying Fury is not a great boxer. Am only saying that he could easily be beaten. Any boxer who is very fast with his hands and has great leg work and can fight from the inside can cause a serious problem for Fury. Did you watch that YouTube video of his fight with Otto Wallin? If you did not, pls watch it and see how Wallin troubled him. Or you think if Fury had fought Mike Tyson at his prime he would not have been beaten?

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Despite what Fury might say about legacy, I believe he cares about it more than he would lead you to believe. If he gets offered that Joshua fight with or without the belts, I think he'll take it.

As far as Fury is concerned, how would taking that fight and winning it improve his legacy?

Well if he beats more people he's only going to cement his legacy. I think walking away now is a bit of a cop out when there's still a good few fighters he hasn't fought. Usyk would probably be the trickiest for him but if he beats him and unifies all the belts that's another huge career milestone. He could then walk away and vacate having nothing else left to prove. With or without the belts the AJ match it still the fight Brits want to see. It would be even better with the belts though.

Btw, I think Dana let Conor have that boxing fight, because Conor advanced UFC to a next level, made it earn millions and billions. Ngannou so far is just a heavyweight that knocks out cold. Btw, Ngannou is not the most scary heavyweight in UFC, Derrick Lewis has 21 KO in his record. He is more dangerous right now

I think Ngannou is by far the biggest hitter in the UFC and he's surely got to be one of the biggest draws outside of McGregor as well so the cross promo fight with Fury makes a lot of sense to me. Maybe Ngannou should rematch the Derrick Lewis fight at some point as that was one of the worst UFC fighters ever with both fighters failing to commit. Hardly any punches were thrown let alone landed.

He would 100% take it. Both his dad and wife have said that he would within the last few days. He will care about legacy. What boxer doesn't? He's undefeated but with every fight you risk losing that status and once it's gone it's gone. There's going to be so much money on the line to fight Usyk and AJ that I'm sure it's a risk he's willing to take. I think he wins both fights though.

I think Fury wins both, and to be honest I'd like to see it just so we could settle the debate, as there are definitely those that believe Usyk is the better boxer, which he might be, but he has to prove it, beating Joshua who arguably isn't at his best, isn't saying a lot. I'm not saying that Joshua is a easy fight these days or he's past it, I just believe Ruiz really did dent his sort of invincible attitude.

I don't see Joshua beating Usyk on points, for me the only route to victory for him is either knock out or technical knock out, since I don't see him outboxing Usyk, just as I don't see him out boxing Fury. Whatever the result of the fight, I'd still like to see Fury fight both. Both come with their different problems, but Joshua can knockout anyone, and that is at least more exciting to me than the Usyk fight.

I agree. I want to see him fight Aj/Usyk (or both)) and then Ngannou. I think he wins them all. I don't think it's out of the question for AJ to win the belts back somehow but the odds are stacked against him. Hopefully he's working on changing his game plan for the rematch as he's going to have to do something different.

Here is a SKYSPORTS report about Fury keeping his options open on returning the WWE.

Fuck wrestling. It's cringe AF. Doing stuff like that makes me disbelieve him when he says he doesn't care about money because he's only doing that for the money and he isn't going to agree to a storyline that he loses or makes him look bad.

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If it were easy to penetrate the defense then his opponent would definitely be doing this but we are seeing the different thing.

Am not saying Fury is not a great boxer. Am only saying that he could easily be beaten. Any boxer who is very fast with his hands and has great leg work and can fight from the inside can cause a serious problem for Fury. Did you watch that YouTube video of his fight with Otto Wallin? If you did not, pls watch it and see how Wallin troubled him. Or you think if Fury had fought Mike Tyson at his prime he would not have been beaten?

What happens is that adjusting your fighting style is not something easy to do at all, most boxers choose a style and then they stick to it and they try to master it instead of becoming more flexible and using different fighting styles, and even Tyson had problems with his own style when his trainer and adoptive father Cus D’Amato died, he fired his trainer Rooney and trainers that did not knew how to train him on his style were hired, do I think prime Tyson would beat prime Fury? Yes, but prime Tyson is one of the best boxers we have ever seen.

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As far as Fury is concerned, how would taking that fight and winning it improve his legacy?

Well if he beats more people he's only going to cement his legacy. I think walking away now is a bit of a cop out when there's still a good few fighters he hasn't fought. Usyk would probably be the trickiest for him but if he beats him and unifies all the belts that's another huge career milestone. He could then walk away and vacate having nothing else left to prove. With or without the belts the AJ match it still the fight Brits want to see. It would be even better with the belts though.

I think the opposite. For me, Fury does not have to beat Joshua for the sake of his legacy.

With the belts, Joshua needs Fury both a big massive pay day and the opportunity to get hold of his belts. If he wins he will brag about it and if he gets beaten he will play it the same way he did when he was beaten by Ruiz and Usyk. Without the belts, Joshua would not want to get in to the ring with Fury because he knows he will face another defeat.

Keeping these opinions aside, what do you think the outcome of a Fury vs Joshua fight will be?

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If it were easy to penetrate the defense then his opponent would definitely be doing this but we are seeing the different thing.

Am not saying Fury is not a great boxer. Am only saying that he could easily be beaten. Any boxer who is very fast with his hands and has great leg work and can fight from the inside can cause a serious problem for Fury. Did you watch that YouTube video of his fight with Otto Wallin? If you did not, pls watch it and see how Wallin troubled him. Or you think if Fury had fought Mike Tyson at his prime he would not have been beaten?

What happens is that adjusting your fighting style is not something easy to do at all, most boxers choose a style and then they stick to it and they try to master it instead of becoming more flexible and using different fighting styles, and even Tyson had problems with his own style when his trainer and adoptive father Cus D’Amato died, he fired his trainer Rooney and trainers that did not knew how to train him on his style were hired, do I think prime Tyson would beat prime Fury? Yes, but prime Tyson is one of the best boxers we have ever seen.

To be versatile wont really be that bad as a fighter or boxer since you could really make out some adjustments if you do really want to but its true that its hard on adjusting into something which you arent really get
used to and since each fighter does have its own style then your mind could say about specific strategy or technicality but your body wont really be getting used to on such change of action.
I've seen that Wallin vs fight which you do actually have the point that being more faster would be significant on beating up Fury but of course it wont be that simple.

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As far as Fury is concerned, how would taking that fight and winning it improve his legacy?

Well if he beats more people he's only going to cement his legacy. I think walking away now is a bit of a cop out when there's still a good few fighters he hasn't fought. Usyk would probably be the trickiest for him but if he beats him and unifies all the belts that's another huge career milestone. He could then walk away and vacate having nothing else left to prove. With or without the belts the AJ match it still the fight Brits want to see. It would be even better with the belts though.

I think the opposite. For me, Fury does not have to beat Joshua for the sake of his legacy.

With the belts, Joshua needs Fury both a big massive pay day and the opportunity to get hold of his belts. If he wins he will brag about it and if he gets beaten he will play it the same way he did when he was beaten by Ruiz and Usyk. Without the belts, Joshua would not want to get in to the ring with Fury because he knows he will face another defeat.

Keeping these opinions aside, what do you think the outcome of a Fury vs Joshua fight will be?

He doesn't have to, but I think a big complaint boxing fans tend to have is that a lot of the big fights that people want to see never end up happening, or they don't happen in their prime. Undefeated fighters often will duck fights for obvious reasons of not wanting to potentially lose their record, or disputes over money mean the contracts never get signed as both parties want bigger cuts. People have been wanting the AJ/Fury fight for probably near a decade. I don't think for one second Fury would duck that fight, but it's easier to walk away undefeated. When there's still people like Usyk to beat I can't see why he'd walk away. I think Fury beats both AJ and Usyk, though Usyk would be more difficult. I could see that fight going the distance. I just feel like Fury still is at his peak and has a good few years left in him before he walks away and doing so now when there's still good fights to be made is disappointing and he's walking away from the chance to cement his legacy further. I'm almost certain that even if Fury steps away from boxing for a number of years he'll just end up doing what most boxers do and end up doing exhibition matches way past their prime just for the money. Fight Usyk and/or AJ, do the blockbuster fight with Ngannou and then call it quits. I'd much rather see that happen than a 40/50 year old Tyson box and 40/50 year old AJ cos they're desperate for some cash.

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He doesn't have to, but I think a big complaint boxing fans tend to have is that a lot of the big fights that people want to see never end up happening, or they don't happen in their prime. Undefeated fighters often will duck fights for obvious reasons of not wanting to potentially lose their record, or disputes over money mean the contracts never get signed as both parties want bigger cuts. People have been wanting the AJ/Fury fight for probably near a decade. I don't think for one second Fury would duck that fight, but it's easier to walk away undefeated. When there's still people like Usyk to beat I can't see why he'd walk away. I think Fury beats both AJ and Usyk, though Usyk would be more difficult. I could see that fight going the distance.

I also think Fury would beat Joshua and Usyk but if only one of them has the belts for a unification fight why would be bother fighting the other? Seriously, if Fury has a unification fight with Usyk and wins, why would he fight a belt-less Joshua while himself risking all of the unified belts? It would not mean ducking one or the other but if there is no desperation on his part Fury should not bother.

If Joshua defeats Usyk then that all British unification fight will be a much anticipated encounter but  a legacy fight between the two with neither having belts on the line would not have the same impact as it would have done when they first had the opportunity to fight a long time ago.

I just feel like Fury still is at his peak and has a good few years left in him before he walks away and doing so now when there's still good fights to be made is disappointing and he's walking away from the chance to cement his legacy further. I'm almost certain that even if Fury steps away from boxing for a number of years he'll just end up doing what most boxers do and end up doing exhibition matches way past their prime just for the money. Fight Usyk and/or AJ, do the blockbuster fight with Ngannou and then call it quits. I'd much rather see that happen than a 40/50 year old Tyson box and 40/50 year old AJ cos they're desperate for some cash.

I understand what you wrote about exhibition fights. I would not want Joshua or Fury get in the ring in their 50s  

If Fury gets back in the ring, the easy part would be to fight the winner of the Usyk vs Joshua fight for a unification bout but the dilemma for him would be fighting the loser of that fight and offering them another chance.

Having said that Fury has maintained on Twitter just today that he is done with boxing therefore any unification or legacy cementing fight is probably never going to happen.

Fury said: "I am very happy and contented to be retired. It's been a long time coming and I am so much enjoying my retirement": SKYSPORTS

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Having said that Fury has maintained on Twitter just today that he is done with boxing therefore any unification or legacy cementing fight is probably never going to happen.

Fury said: "I am very happy and contented to be retired. It's been a long time coming and I am so much enjoying my retirement": SKYSPORTS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/61804428

The 33-year-old suggested he would retire after knocking out Dillian Whyte in front of 94,000 fans at Wembley in April to retain his title.

But on Tuesday he said he was planning for "something big" to happen.

"We've exciting news coming," he said.

Asked in an interview with Queensberry Promotions

if he would be seen in the ring again at some point in the future, Fury added: "100%. Just like in the movie when Jerry Maguire shouted 'Show Me The Money!'."

Fury's promoter Frank Warren said he had recently been in discussions with the British boxer about a return to fighting.

While Fury says a fight against Usyk or Joshua is not in his immediate plans, he has not ruled it out at a future date.

Fury is unbeaten in 33 bouts and retirement would mean he would miss out on an opportunity to fight for the undisputed crown, and with it a chance to cement his status as Britain's greatest ever heavyweight.

Usyk currently holds the other four world heavyweight belts and he is set to defend those titles against Joshua at some point this year.

Once that fight is done, Fury suggested a bout against the winner could be possible but that it would take a lot of money to tempt him to take it on.

"What I would say to the people who want this fight to happen is: you better have a big cheque book," he said.

"Because to bring the big GK out of retirement to redeem this country - yet again - it's going to cost.

"I am a prize fighter and I do fight for prizes, but it is going to cost if you want me to do a mission on this middleweight and show what a real heavyweight does to them.

"And that will be expensive, they will need deep pockets and then we can talk."

It seems there's something brewing in the Fury camp given what he's been saying the past couple of days and he's been doing a lot of media. His next fight might only be an exhibition but as I said before, this retirement talk is almost certainly just part of Fury's game plan to squeeze as much possible money out of his next fight. He's "retired", but not if someone offers him half a billion which is pretty much what he said recently. Of course getting that sort of money almost certainly won't happen but I'm sure he's willing to negotiate. Start high and see what the best offers are. I think it's safe to assume that we will likely see Tyson fighting again. There's going to be far too much money on the line for a unification fight for all the belts. Probably not anywhere near 500k but he will end up with at least 100k minimum, maybe even double that if he wins. I don't think either Usyk or AJ will trouble him too much either so I think it will be a silly move to walk away from all the belts especially when there's not much risk on the line and that fight will be by far his biggest payday.