CrazyTime and Monopoly, should we trust?

[pawanjain]

It's hard to trust such live casinos because we don't know what's happening in the backend.
We can never tell how corrupt the people can be. May be the casinos would have paid enough to the authorities to let them manipulate the rolls.
This is why I prefer online gambling which has a provably fair system so that everyone can verify that their rolls are in fact genuine.

In this case it is good to have a review about what the casino did in the starting of their business because some may done badly to customer and have had negative review but at another time they have good review again because they have changed. Trust and confidence in a casino is sure a need that players want to see in other players.

Getting reviews of a casino is a good way to get a basic judgement of casino but we cannot determine if it will remain the same in future.
Things are different if the casino has a long term good reputation, in that case we can have good trust on them.
But if a casino has good reviews only for the short term then it still comes under the risky category.
We have seen cases where scamsters initially build trust by giving good services and then scam their users out of nowhere.

[Cookdata]

So far on the poll, people here do not trust this game

Yes   - 4 (28.6%)
No   - 10 (71.4%)
Total Voters: 14

I also voted no the house has a big chance to win the game and he can easily manipulate the game by using devices, honestly, I have not played this kind of game because the chances are in favor of the house based on a calculation I prefer playing in a game where I can check the fairness of the game.

Yes   - 5 (26.3%)
No   - 14 (73.7%)
Total Voters: 19

The number of comments is more than the votes and the current result is slightly different from yours. I voted NO, the game looks like a dummy and unserious, I wouldn't trust this kind of game with my money.

Getting reviews of a casino is a good way to get a basic judgement of casino but we cannot determine if it will remain the same in future.
Things are different if the casino has a long term good reputation, in that case we can have good trust on them.
But if a casino has good reviews only for the short term then it still comes under the risky category.
We have seen cases where scamsters initially build trust by giving good services and then scam their users out of nowhere.

Reviews are mostly not the best approach to lean on a betting platform, I have seen people here get paid for reviews and since money may be involved, they will likely ignore the bad sides of the casino and make a positive review to attract more people, it happens by most YouTubers when they do reviews for these casinos, instead of making it looks neutral, they instead do it with hope to bring more customers.

[Silberman]

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As I expected, most gamblers do not trust this kind of games and this is not surprising because the algorithm of such a wheel is impossible to check and it carries additional risks for the player. In addition, the leading that spins the wheel must be paid and the payment comes out of the players' pockets. That is why the chances that you will lose are always higher.

I am pleasantly surprised by this as well, I know there are some people out there that like these kind of games, but at least in this market unlike with what happens with fiat we do not really trust the other party and instead we like to verify the results that we are given, casinos with a good reputation have gained said reputation by offering their customers the best service possible, and in this we can include a way to verify your bets, something that is not possible with live games.

[seoincorporation]

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Reviews are mostly not the best approach to lean on a betting platform, I have seen people here get paid for reviews and since money may be involved, they will likely ignore the bad sides of the casino and make a positive review to attract more people, it happens by most YouTubers when they do reviews for these casinos, instead of making it looks neutral, they instead do it with hope to bring more customers.

This is true, some of the promotion is with fake bets, a good example of this is the user Xposed who have a deal with a casino and he always shows some crazy max wins.

In the next video, we see how he ben $438 on x1600,  the profit should be $700800 but he gets $500,438. I guess half a million is the max win.

https://youtu.be/D4ZaPDdVV2I?t=628

[LUCKMCFLY]

For me, I see this game of Monopoly and CrazyTime as the possibility of winning at slots, normally I have come across this type of game a few times, but evaluating it for months, a game project was going to launch it as an NFT game, I don't know if it was patented under the same scheme as the traditional game or not, but when we evaluate that the slots have the Provably Fair system and this one doesn't, by manipulating the seed I don't know if it could worsen the configuration to win or maybe they integrate it with a different type of system like that of traditional casinos that applied to roulette.

[Alanaz]

I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.

That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.

Usually these live games are audited by a third party company, so the reliability of these games is directly related to who the auditors are, as they have a reputation to uphold, and reputation is the most valuable asset for these auditing companies.

But directly answering your question: NO, I don't trust and I don't like to bet on these games.

Even if that's the case, I think there will still be cheating, I think, but of course in a more subtle way because this kind of thing carries a greater risk, I think, compared to other gambling, even though this is live, but in some cases there is cheating there.
I did what you did because I also don't really like this game and even only tried this game a few times because I think the losses will be more than the advantages when playing there

[agustina2]

Even if that's the case, I think there will still be cheating, I think, but of course in a more subtle way because this kind of thing carries a greater risk, I think, compared to other gambling, even though this is live, but in some cases there is cheating there.
I did what you did because I also don't really like this game and even only tried this game a few times because I think the losses will be more than the advantages when playing there

If you think like that, then fine but don't consider it as the real thing happening in most of the cases. We are just all speculating and guessing here if those live feeds are really live. These gambling sites won't risk their reputation for that "cheating".

If you don't believe in those, a simple act of staying away is enough not to support those games.

Have fun at your preferred gambling type/s.

[pawanjain]

Reviews are mostly not the best approach to lean on a betting platform, I have seen people here get paid for reviews and since money may be involved, they will likely ignore the bad sides of the casino and make a positive review to attract more people, it happens by most YouTubers when they do reviews for these casinos, instead of making it looks neutral, they instead do it with hope to bring more customers.

Ofcourse there are people who get paid to post good reviews which is exactly why we should not trust casinos which are relatively new in the short term.
We can put a little trust on those which are in the community for a long term since it is hard to pay for fake reviews on a long term.
Talking specifically about this forum, although there are campaigns for reviews about casinos there are many people who post honest reviews.
Whether it be good or bad they do post honest reviews but again the amount of such people are very low.

[Wexnident]

Even if that's the case, I think there will still be cheating, I think, but of course in a more subtle way because this kind of thing carries a greater risk, I think, compared to other gambling, even though this is live, but in some cases there is cheating there.
I did what you did because I also don't really like this game and even only tried this game a few times because I think the losses will be more than the advantages when playing there

That was rather confusing but point is, cheating would still happen? Do you even know what auditors are lmao. They're usually the middle man in between providing fairness from the casino to the user, and them doing their jobs for these types of cases is very important. It wouldn't necessarily be the casino only that would be affected, but also the auditor that was responsible when the event happened. Wouldn't be impossible though for cheating to happen, not because it's "subtle" but rather both the auditor and the casino are in it.

[michellee]

I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.

That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.

Usually these live games are audited by a third party company, so the reliability of these games is directly related to who the auditors are, as they have a reputation to uphold, and reputation is the most valuable asset for these auditing companies.

But directly answering your question: NO, I don't trust and I don't like to bet on these games.

Even if that's the case, I think there will still be cheating, I think, but of course in a more subtle way because this kind of thing carries a greater risk, I think, compared to other gambling, even though this is live, but in some cases there is cheating there.
I did what you did because I also don't really like this game and even only tried this game a few times because I think the losses will be more than the advantages when playing there

Although we believe there is cheating in this game, we can't prove it easily because they will definitely cover up the cheating and still pretend that their system is fair. If that's the case, we don't have to try to play that gambling game because we have many other types of gambling games that we think are fair games so we think differently. Playing gambling really requires calm to be able to enjoy the game so if you keep thinking there is cheating in the game, you definitely won't be able to enjoy the game.

[iv4n]

I tried these two games a few times... and I didn't win or lose anything big! But I saw some people betting crazy and winning insanely high prizes when they hit this special x2 x3 and x4 numbers... I didn't have the luck to hit that, to be honest, I didn't play it long enough probably! These kinds of games are not so interesting to me, I don't have the problems with trusting them, it's gambling, after all, we can win or lose any time, it's just that some other games are more attractive to me!

[udidrone]

As long as it can't be proven that they are fair then we can't believe it spins and rollls like behind the scenes different from card games that can be seen in live
Some dubious things are, how the machine works and make sure it is without control provider never shows it. I have never seriously played this game only at the last balance when I'm going out of the casino.

[alegotardo]

I tried these two games a few times... and I didn't win or lose anything big! But I saw some people betting crazy and winning insanely high prizes when they hit this special x2 x3 and x4 numbers... I didn't have the luck to hit that, to be honest, I didn't play it long enough probably! These kinds of games are not so interesting to me, I don't have the problems with trusting them, it's gambling, after all, we can win or lose any time, it's just that some other games are more attractive to me!

Nothing compares to an online game where you have all the necessary tools to validate your bet and be sure that the result was fair. Obviously you will not check all the bets you place, but just by being able to do this at any time, you already have greater security, as the site does not know which bet you are going to validate, so they will be fair in all of them. .
In the case of CrazyTime and Monopoli, your only trust is in the company that is auditing the bets, you will never be able to prove the veracity of the bets yourself.

[iv4n]

I tried these two games a few times... and I didn't win or lose anything big! But I saw some people betting crazy and winning insanely high prizes when they hit this special x2 x3 and x4 numbers... I didn't have the luck to hit that, to be honest, I didn't play it long enough probably! These kinds of games are not so interesting to me, I don't have the problems with trusting them, it's gambling, after all, we can win or lose any time, it's just that some other games are more attractive to me!

Nothing compares to an online game where you have all the necessary tools to validate your bet and be sure that the result was fair. Obviously you will not check all the bets you place, but just by being able to do this at any time, you already have greater security, as the site does not know which bet you are going to validate, so they will be fair in all of them. .
In the case of CrazyTime and Monopoli, your only trust is in the company that is auditing the bets, you will never be able to prove the veracity of the bets yourself.

Yes, we either trust the provider or we don't! As a slot player I trust providers, why would I play them if I don't trust them!? You are right, there are provably fair games where you can check any bet with the validator, but slots, live games, poker are not games where you can do that... so you either trust the site and providers of those games and you play them, or you simply play in-house games where you have greater security! I know I play both...

[Johnyz]

Its fun to play since you watch the actual table but yeah, it can be edited or a replay but if there's an interaction between you and the other gamblers, the game might really on a live video which you can confirm but asking few things. .

Well, trusting is a big issue, this is why I only gamble on the top site and since I play not much on a live games, I'm still ok with them. Don't trust them fully, you still have not to be greedy and gamble only your extra money, this is still gambling and the house will always win.

[madnessteat]

I tried these two games a few times... and I didn't win or lose anything big! But I saw some people betting crazy and winning insanely high prizes when they hit this special x2 x3 and x4 numbers... I didn't have the luck to hit that, to be honest, I didn't play it long enough probably! These kinds of games are not so interesting to me, I don't have the problems with trusting them, it's gambling, after all, we can win or lose any time, it's just that some other games are more attractive to me!

Nothing compares to an online game where you have all the necessary tools to validate your bet and be sure that the result was fair. Obviously you will not check all the bets you place, but just by being able to do this at any time, you already have greater security, as the site does not know which bet you are going to validate, so they will be fair in all of them. .
In the case of CrazyTime and Monopoli, your only trust is in the company that is auditing the bets, you will never be able to prove the veracity of the bets yourself.

You are absolutely right. Cryptocurrencies have made it possible for us not to use trust in third parties, but to be able to verify everything on our own. That's why most cryptocurrency users will not trust this kind of games. And since we can't check anything, the winnings we see could be cheating.

Whoever wants to play this kind of games has to understand at once that he will most probably lose all his money.

[Alanaz]

Even if that's the case, I think there will still be cheating, I think, but of course in a more subtle way because this kind of thing carries a greater risk, I think, compared to other gambling, even though this is live, but in some cases there is cheating there.
I did what you did because I also don't really like this game and even only tried this game a few times because I think the losses will be more than the advantages when playing there

That was rather confusing but point is, cheating would still happen? Do you even know what auditors are lmao. They're usually the middle man in between providing fairness from the casino to the user, and them doing their jobs for these types of cases is very important. It wouldn't necessarily be the casino only that would be affected, but also the auditor that was responsible when the event happened. Wouldn't be impossible though for cheating to happen, not because it's "subtle" but rather both the auditor and the casino are in it.

I know this and by this I don't mean to doubt the auditors on duty because of course they are neutral people but on the other hand this as I said before there are some casinos that can indeed think of a more subtle way and the possibility exists even if let's see now there are some that do have indications of cheating in the rotation maybe one example is the link that the OP gave.

Although we believe there is cheating in this game, we can't prove it easily because they will definitely cover up the cheating and still pretend that their system is fair. If that's the case, we don't have to try to play that gambling game because we have many other types of gambling games that we think are fair games so we think differently. Playing gambling really requires calm to be able to enjoy the game so if you keep thinking there is cheating in the game, you definitely won't be able to enjoy the game.

I quite agree with what you say because the best choice is indeed when we are not sure why we are forced to play, we play for fun but that doesn't mean putting aside suspicion and when we are not really sure it certainly shouldn't be done.

[harizen]

I don't have the problems with trusting them, it's gambling, after all, we can win or lose any time, it's just that some other games are more attractive to me!

On point. Regardless of it's really live or not, gambling is gambling. I don't even think that these games are actually live on not will increase the chance of winning. In case this was pre-recorded, which I doubt it is, the same sequence applies, a bettor will place a bet then hope they will hit that pre-recorded result.

The bottom line, it's safe to assume that everything is fair and square especially if the involved site is popular. I don't see why they should cheat in the first place as that will affect their reputation.

And just to be clear, it's the Game Provider that hosts these games, not the gambling site in general.

[goinmerry]

As I expected, most gamblers do not trust this kind of games and this is not surprising because the algorithm of such a wheel is impossible to check and it carries additional risks for the player. In addition, the leading that spins the wheel must be paid and the payment comes out of the players' pockets. That is why the chances that you will lose are always higher.

It's not that they don't trust those games but rather, those people do have a bad experience playing those games. They didn't realize that in whatever form of gambling, there's no such thing as easy money. The same goes on their result playing on luck-based games like dice, slots, roulettes.

If they think those games are not trusted, then better shift career at those gambling types where they can apply their skills.

[MCVXYZ]

I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.

That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.

Usually these live games are audited by a third party company, so the reliability of these games is directly related to who the auditors are, as they have a reputation to uphold, and reputation is the most valuable asset for these auditing companies.

But directly answering your question: NO, I don't trust and I don't like to bet on these games.

Same here, I think they have their own understanding of what is Fair game concept. I don't trust and  will never play games based on nothing but some mathematical techniques. So, For me there is nothing about lucky, I don't even  know how their "mechanism works".