Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms?

[batang_bitcoin]

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Most of the news that we get is from the west and anything that comes from Russia is unsure if it's really coming from them or it's already been changed and modified by any source that covers that.

I am not sure where you got that idea. There are many pro-Russian and pro-Kremlin media outlets online. And, of course, there is a massive propaganda machine in Russia to support their view of the world.

Keep in mind, though, there is no such thing as "free media" in Russia. All media is subject to state control.
The Russian federal organization responsible for controlling and censoring the media, Roskomnadzor, recently issued a statement ^[1] instructing the media to "only use information and data received from official Russian sources."

So, if you're already skeptical of Western media, you should be doubly skeptical of any media that is controlled by the same people who created this conflict.


[1] - https://rkn.gov.ru/news/rsoc/news74084.htm

I've just read some posts about it and that made me think that it's possible and that's probably a propaganda and the agenda is to really confuse people like me and so I was confused. That's why I'm going with several sources if a news that I've seen is legitimate or not.
Thank you, it's really making me think more about the authenticity of the news that comes here and there and that's why we have to validate news coming from any source.

[delfastTions]

Ops can you add a link to the source of the screenshot you shared thank you. Back to the discussion.
Moscow Ukraine invasion to a far extent is not a war but genocide, as the Russian President is using military weapons to destroy key infrastructure in Ukraine and a lot of civilians casualties, have been recorded over the past one week since the invasion started, the Russian people have been in solidarity with Ukraine but their government seems to have lost control and are overzealous to go to war because of the nuclear and military powers the excess display of such power without following due process will attract penalties from the international court of justice.

I don't quite understand where you get this information from?  Is there any hard evidence of barbarism towards civilians in Ukraine?  I think that believing all those fakes that have flooded the Internet is simply naive and ridiculous.  If you understand that these are elements of psychological warfare, then you will be protected from misinformation and, by the way, from unnecessary emotional experiences that, as I think, you don’t need at all.  

But the topic is just about boycotting sites, of course.  This can be done emotionally.  You may or may not do this.  It's your personal choice.  
I also think no one will notice the difference, because there will be those who, on the contrary, will access these sites, although they have not used them before.  
So the balance will still be approximately preserved.

[Strongkored]

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

Boycotting and sanctioning the greatest effect will be felt by citizens, unfortunately the people who wage war and finance it will not feel the impact too much, and it needs to be questioned whether by boycotting the Casino owned by the Russians will help Ukraine, I am worried if the steps taken will only make more people suffer and in no way affect Putin who declared war.

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

Maybe no one mentioned Yobit yet, Yobit was also Dice in their exchange so they could be included in the Casino category.

[jrrsparkles]

Russian military is harming the Ukraine soldiers sonthe whole world is now going to harm the Russian civilians, seems to be unfair and leaders are not getting bothered about the sanctions. I already expressed my opinion in other board so I don't want to bring the political discussion here, just want to remain don't harm people financially or physically.

[xSkylarx]

I am neutral at this but from what I have seen at Linkedin,mostly European connections working in the IT area were posting a lot of posts with this meaning "To all the Russians and Belarussians out there,you won't get ANY business from us at all,ever",most of such connections are in Germany but I think it shows where it is going.Unfortunately the citizens have already started to see the consequences of the war which president of US,Biden said will be felt even more as time passes.

Sometimes I stop to wonder if Russia President Putin ever stop to consider the many negative impacts of this war on the Russian economy both the public and the private sectors, this devastating incident have shattered away what took the whole Russian Federation many years to build and I know things may not get back to normal again ever.

I am not an expert on this, but I believe that Putin did not consider the economic consequences of his actions; he believes that the other country will go to war, as evidenced by the sending of troops, tanks, and other military equipment, rather than economic sanctions. At first, I thought that economic sanctions would have little effect on them or that they would be insignificant, but in the long run, I could see that Russia is struggling, which is a good thing because if all of the countries send troops, I am confident that a nuclear war will erupt.

Exactly and to say that Russia President Putin is still seeing this whole scenario as a game of power show have thrown Russia into an unexpected economic crisis which will take them a long time to rebuild the extent of the damage caused by this Ukraine invasion can not be measured now but until the war is over. I hope Putin will not put Russia in a self-destruction mode.

They are relying on China now, as the majority of media reports, but I am not sure if this is true because I heard on the news that the pipeline going to Europe has not been closed, despite the fact that President Biden had said something about economic sanctions. It is already the seventh day, and there are still no signs of a halt. I'm not sure what to say, but we could see widespread support from civilians all over the world in support of or willingness to volunteer to go to war with Russia. I'm not sure why Putin is still not concerned about the sanctions, but I believe he has a contingency plan in place with his economy.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Compared to the population of all gamblers to general population I think we can't have much effect in their economy if we managed to unite since only few percentages are gamblers. I think it will be more effective if we wouldn't buy goods or products we can see on stores that came from Russia, I think I see the list of it in Twitter.

[m2017]

Compared to the population of all gamblers to general population I think we can't have much effect in their economy if we managed to unite since only few percentages are gamblers. I think it will be more effective if we wouldn't buy goods or products we can see on stores that came from Russia, I think I see the list of it in Twitter.

More efficient for what? To complicate the already difficult life of the russian citizens?

A strange boycott offers Marvelman. Not because 1xBET and 1xBit have a dubious reputation, but because their owners are from the Russia. Maybe should stop doing nonsense and produce such topics?

[delfastTions]

Compared to the population of all gamblers to general population I think we can't have much effect in their economy if we managed to unite since only few percentages are gamblers. I think it will be more effective if we wouldn't buy goods or products we can see on stores that came from Russia, I think I see the list of it in Twitter.

I think it's useless.  I draw your attention to the fact that in addition to the countries of the "golden billion" that are now in information hysteria from this military operation, there are another 7 billion inhabitants of the planet, all of Africa, Latin America, most of Asia, including China, where people generally do not care how it goes  operation, and many generally believe that all these are the consequences of US imperialist policy, they provoked the conflict.  
I don't think this would have happened under Trump.  
And this Joe - the old senile is very old, he generally does not care about the fate of the world.

[ethereumhunter]

Compared to the population of all gamblers to general population I think we can't have much effect in their economy if we managed to unite since only few percentages are gamblers. I think it will be more effective if we wouldn't buy goods or products we can see on stores that came from Russia, I think I see the list of it in Twitter.

It is their choice because if the goods from Russia are important for that person, they will still buy even if there is still a war.

If other countries stop importing products or goods from Russia, maybe that will work as the Russian government can sell their product to other countries and they can feel difficult to sell at their country. To support the boycott or not, it will depend on each gambler but I am sure they already have their own favourite casinos to play gambling.

[Marvelman]

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Thanks for this, I wasn't aware that the Russian online casinos are being owned by billionaires. You are right that probably most of the Russian oligarch have strong connections to the governments. As such boycotting the casinos will be another pressure point for the billionaires of losing money. That is also why many of the oligarchs are included personally in the sanctions against Russia. Increasing the pressure on their personal wealth is the strategy, so that they in return crease pressure on Putin to end the war.

That's exactly my point. These sanctions against oligarchs are the centerpiece of this pressure campaign, they will ultimately increase pressure on Putin to end this madness.

We shouldn't forget however, that there are normal people working on these casinos and boycotting them could lead to bankruptcy of the casinos. I am sure the average citizen in Russia doesn't want the war and for them losing their jobs is also a bad thing on top of economic downturn.

I agree. Not all Russians are responsible for the war, and the "little guy" is most likely to suffer the most from its consequences. However, many Russians do not even realize what is going on in Ukraine. They have been indoctrinated with Russian propaganda for years, and heavily censored media do not convey accurate information from the conflict area. If you live in Russia, it’s easier to be blindsided by false information, while listening to views from Moscow that are often divorced from reality. For instance, Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said Ukraine has been "taken over by fascist thugs" who want to "seize Kiev and eliminate Russian-speaking populations." This statement is logically absurd.

That's why I think it's important for people like us, to spread the word, in the hopes that people will become more aware of the facts and make informed decisions on their own.

I believe we must think of this thoroughly first before coming to a decision because boycotting can affect so many people that are innocent and are also struggling to survive.

Why would boycotting several Russian casinos affect people who are "struggling to survive"? That doesn't make sense, and I think you're overanalyzing it.

[bitterguy28]

I believe we must think of this thoroughly first before coming to a decision because boycotting can affect so many people that are innocent and are also struggling to survive.

Why would boycotting several Russian casinos affect people who are "struggling to survive"? That doesn't make sense, and I think you're overanalyzing it.

Supporting your point this mate, because indeed that this not make sense at all , Only the businesses will in affected because gambling operating Online does not have many employees instead they are just literally gaining big chunks of money thru online.
So Boycotting is my stand also , and there is a thread created yesterday about the list of gambling from Russia .

[Wiwo]

I am not sure if boycotting would have an effect but I think if we are going to do something we should do it in good ways, not with boycotting or not buying products, etc. We can offer financial support to Ukraine or to its people rather than boycotting Russian gamlbing sites it has no effect and waste of time. As a gambler what I can do is to offer 10% of my winnings daily or weekly to donate to Ukraine I think that's much better.

Exactly and there is already an online donation through cryptocurrency, I have been against the call for boycott because the businesses are owned and operated by individuals who have no involvement with the Moscow invasion. There have been a lot of sections on Russian own businesses and even Chelsea football club is one of such Rusian origin football club which stands a sanction due to the Rusian Ukraine unrest.

[Maslate]

I don't think it's the right idea, that's just a gambling platform so for me, I will continue to support a gambling site even if it's operating from Russia, but now 1xbit or 1xbet for sure as I am not using them due to their reputation. That's just my personal thoughts, we are free to do anything we want though.

[Ryker1]

I don't think it's the right idea, that's just a gambling platform so for me, I will continue to support a gambling site even if it's operating from Russia, but now 1xbit or 1xbet for sure as I am not using them due to their reputation. That's just my personal thoughts, we are free to do anything we want though.

Well the same on me too and for me, they belong to innocent people and they are individual businessmen here who did not even belong to the war and it also considers criticizing with their culture. We have been witnessed Russian innocent people who suffered because of their political leader and member.
But for me --they should not be treated like this.

[Wexnident]

I don't think it's the right idea, that's just a gambling platform so for me, I will continue to support a gambling site even if it's operating from Russia, but now 1xbit or 1xbet for sure as I am not using them due to their reputation. That's just my personal thoughts, we are free to do anything we want though.

And well, in addition to that, there are already boycotts by official organizations (such as being kicked from sports events afaik) so I don't think there's a need to add more. If you were to think about it that's already hurting people who aren't really part of the war issue or agree to it but they were still affected. I don't think we need to affect more unrelated people as consumers. Honestly, I'd rather much more offer support to Ukraine instead of boycotting Russian services, probably a more effective way to help.

[Marvelman]

And well, in addition to that, there are already boycotts by official organizations (such as being kicked from sports events afaik) so I don't think there's a need to add more. If you were to think about it that's already hurting people who aren't really part of the war issue or agree to it but they were still affected. I don't think we need to affect more unrelated people as consumers. Honestly, I'd rather much more offer support to Ukraine instead of boycotting Russian services, probably a more effective way to help.

Support for the Ukraine is good, but it won't stop the war. Neither will sanctions against Russia, nor boycotts of Russian products and services, nor a ban on Russian athletes from competing in sporting events. However, all of this is part of a larger global initiative aimed at exerting indirect pressure on the Russian government, which is the only one who can stop this.

As mentioned above, there is no easy way out of this crisis. But the alternative isn't more war, but economic sanctions, boycott campaigns and the like. The Kremlin must accept that, otherwise it will face a long and persistent period of sanctions, boycotts and isolation, along with growing social and political unrest, and the destabilization of Russia's political system.

[Cling18]

I don't think it's the right idea, that's just a gambling platform so for me, I will continue to support a gambling site even if it's operating from Russia, but now 1xbit or 1xbet for sure as I am not using them due to their reputation. That's just my personal thoughts, we are free to do anything we want though.

I also don't see it as a right way to support Ukraine because it won't make things better but rather affect innocent people who are just trying to run a gambling business. There are other ways to support Ukraine and ruining businesses isn't a good idea and it won't also bring down Russia. Their economy is too strong to be affected by this boycott.

[Renampun]

I don't think it's the right idea, that's just a gambling platform so for me, I will continue to support a gambling site even if it's operating from Russia, but now 1xbit or 1xbet for sure as I am not using them due to their reputation. That's just my personal thoughts, we are free to do anything we want though.

my thoughts are the same as yours...

I don't care if a gambling site is from russia or not because I believe the majority of gambling business people who run their business globally don't like putin attacking ukraine. a businessman from russia said that he lost a lot of money because of putin's attack, if their voices could be heard then they would scream for the invasion to be stopped.

[TimeTeller]

I don't think it's the right idea, that's just a gambling platform so for me, I will continue to support a gambling site even if it's operating from Russia, but now 1xbit or 1xbet for sure as I am not using them due to their reputation. That's just my personal thoughts, we are free to do anything we want though.

my thoughts are the same as yours...

I don't care if a gambling site is from russia or not because I believe the majority of gambling business people who run their business globally don't like putin attacking ukraine. a businessman from russia said that he lost a lot of money because of putin's attack, if their voices could be heard then they would scream for the invasion to be stopped.

Sadly, Putin will not be stopping this invasion anytime soon.
Even captured soldiers don't want this war and just wanted to go home.
Their businesses will suffer because of their selfish leader, who wants power over a small country that is not his.
Despite of the calls around the globe to stop this foolishness, I don't think Putin will just give up and stop.
It is a shame, his Russian people is suffering because of this leader. Maybe, it is time to overthrow his government.
I am not looking whether a casino is Russian owned or not, as long as they are credible and trustworthy, I will try and play.

[Silberman]

I think it's a smarter idea to boycott people who supports the invasion of sovereign countries (these are the dangerous ones), instead of boycotting every russians civilians, because not everyone there agrees with what the government is doing.

About 1xbit and 1xbet specifically, it's not advised for gamblers to play there for another reasons related to the scam accusations against them, and not exactly because they are owned by russians.

I have the same thought process, I know that people are mad about what is happening at Ukraine and they want to do something to punish Russia for their actions, and while punishing those that are directly responsible for the war seems like the correct thing to do, at the same time punishing every single business or Russian citizen does not seem like the right choice, after all there are many businesses and citizens that are against this but they have no say or power to stop the invasion that is currently going on.