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March 06, 2022, 01:50:45 PM
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Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

This is the only way the world can wage a war against Putin's administration let them feel they are isolated let the cash flow stop, there are many Russian billionaire assets frozen and these are the people who supported Putin, soon the Russian will turn against Putin and Putin will have to turn inside Russia to stop people from revolting, the people of Russia don't want to be cut off to the world.

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March 06, 2022, 02:47:46 PM
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We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians.
You obviously didn't do any research, but that didn't stop you from spreading lies and misinformation about the scamming casino to justify your cause. The articles I shared say that 1XBET company (casino) is banned, illegal and / or prohibited in those countries. And that's just a fraction of the stories I read. Regardless of whether 1xbet's website (and all its clones) is blocked in these countries, the fact that the company does not operate legally remains. You should read more and guess less.

I don't know what you think is false information. The only thing I wanted to say is that 1xbet is not a Russian company. I have this information from Wikipedia: "1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

They also state they are not scamming their players ... I'm not sure which I should believe - their statements, or hundreds of cases claiming the opposite.

If you don't know who you should to believe, then you should do your own research.
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March 06, 2022, 08:49:17 PM
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I don't know what you think is false information. The only thing I wanted to say is that 1xbet is not a Russian company. I have this information from Wikipedia: "1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

So now you trust the information from Wikipedia? You used to claim otherwise.

In any case, from the same source:

Initially a Russian Casino, it expanded its online presence in 2014 by partnering with 'BookmakerPub'.
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As of January 2022, 1xBet no longer appears to be located in Curaçao after filing for bankruptcy. A lawsuit against the company and its licensor remain open. The website continues to operate online.
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The website has had its access restricted in numerous countries, including: Russia, UK, USA, Spain, France, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal, Burkina Faso, Israel, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium.
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They filed a lawsuit against the owner of the Russian version of 1Xbet - bookmaker 1XStavka.


They also state they are not scamming their players ... I'm not sure which I should believe - their statements, or hundreds of cases claiming the opposite.

If you don't know who you should to believe, then you should do your own research.

Yeah, well ... That's called sarcasm. Read about it.

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March 06, 2022, 09:09:29 PM
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I don't know what you think is false information. The only thing I wanted to say is that 1xbet is not a Russian company. I have this information from Wikipedia: "1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

So now you trust the information from Wikipedia? You used to claim otherwise.

In any case, from the same source:

Initially a Russian Casino, it expanded its online presence in 2014 by partnering with 'BookmakerPub'.
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As of January 2022, 1xBet no longer appears to be located in Curaçao after filing for bankruptcy. A lawsuit against the company and its licensor remain open. The website continues to operate online.
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The website has had its access restricted in numerous countries, including: Russia, UK, USA, Spain, France, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal, Burkina Faso, Israel, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium.
...
They filed a lawsuit against the owner of the Russian version of 1Xbet - bookmaker 1XStavka.

The conversation is about 1xbet, when it comes to who owns them and where they are registered, no one should have any doubts, unless you want to undermine the credibility of all sources presented on this forum and in internet.
It is clearly written everywhere that 1X Corp N.V. (owner of 1xbet) is a company from Cyprus.
So it is foolish to boycott a company that is not Russian, unless the purposes of the boycott are different than what you described in the topic and opening post.

Ps. If 1xStavka is website of 1X Corp N.V. it means that it still is website of company from Cyprus.
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March 06, 2022, 09:19:46 PM
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Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

This is the only way the world can wage a war against Putin's administration let them feel they are isolated let the cash flow stop, there are many Russian billionaire assets frozen and these are the people who supported Putin, soon the Russian will turn against Putin and Putin will have to turn inside Russia to stop people from revolting, the people of Russia don't want to be cut off to the world.
Stopping cash flow is really going to cleave their economy.

Well, there have been a lot of companies that have left Russia already. So, to sum it up, there go the sanctions, companies leaving Russia, and as well as this plan of ignoring these companies.

That's really going to be hard for the Russia if this is going to keep happening on their economy for a long time.

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March 06, 2022, 10:32:09 PM
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The conversation is about 1xbet, when it comes to who owns them and where they are registered, no one should have any doubts, unless you want to undermine the credibility of all sources presented on this forum and in internet.
It is clearly written everywhere that 1X Corp N.V. (owner of 1xbet) is a company from Cyprus.
So it is foolish to boycott a company that is not Russian, unless the purposes of the boycott are different than what you described in the topic and opening post.

Ps. If 1xStavka is website of 1X Corp N.V. it means that it still is website of company from Cyprus.

OK, I don't know if you have trouble reading or what? It is clear from the source you referred to that 1X Corp N.V. company filled for bankruptcy. What does it matter where it was registered if it is no longer operational?

PS You are confused. It wasn't me who wanted to undermine the credibility of the source but you.

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March 06, 2022, 10:40:06 PM
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Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

This is the only way the world can wage a war against Putin's administration let them feel they are isolated let the cash flow stop, there are many Russian billionaire assets frozen and these are the people who supported Putin, soon the Russian will turn against Putin and Putin will have to turn inside Russia to stop people from revolting, the people of Russia don't want to be cut off to the world.
Stopping cash flow is really going to cleave their economy.

Well, there have been a lot of companies that have left Russia already. So, to sum it up, there go the sanctions, companies leaving Russia, and as well as this plan of ignoring these companies.

That's really going to be hard for the Russia if this is going to keep happening on their economy for a long time.

This is the purpose of economic sanctions. The economic losses Russia will experience due to the product boycott, restrictions and sanctions must be bigger than any possible profit from the war that goes on . Once Putin realizes this he will end the invasion. Lets hope it will happen as soon as possible.

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March 07, 2022, 11:38:23 AM
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As stated by you guys, everyone has their own free will to make their own decisions, and support whoever and whatever causes they would want to. And so the bottom-line of this for all of us is to respect one another, it is not bad to educate other people but do not be too assertive in fighting your stand but do it with all respect.

RESPECT  one simple word but hard to do, sad but true nowadays, any people in this word lack of respect even some professionals or those people who are in the top position in their country,
And this is one of the reasons why people encounter some crimes or even war because they don't have respect for each other. Whenever we do respect is the most important we have in our lives in order to be peaceful.

Unfortunately, this virtue has been ignored by many. And now, we are clearly seeing it because we are witnessing this war. If there is respect, definitely, there will be no war, because they will sit on the table peacefully and negotiate what needs to be done. But if one of the leaders doesn't like that kind of arrangement, and push thru his self-interest, this is what happens - chaos and sufferings. When it comes to gambling or any Russian industry, it depends on you. Most of them don't want this war to happen, so I don't think they need to suffer in this situation.


I think Putin continue to do this because Ukraine President pursue his plan to join on NATO and the Russian president got worried about it since little by little USA slowly taking the control on every russian border and that is a big threat for them if the world war 3 fire up.

But hopefully they can settle this up and no more blood sheed will happen in Ukrainian soil because this is totally not good seeing childrens getting affected on this war and other country economy is affected to.
if the world war 3 will happen sooner the economy will rise up and I think that the price of our needs right now will be double or triple if the war will happen and I do hope that this will not happen many innocent people will suffer and many children or even adult will die in crisis. All we can do is pray that this two-country will peace in a short period of time.

Eventhough we are not residing at the affected country we can still feel the heavy effect of this war global economy is slowly crumpled prices of basic goods rise up and most provably we can see the worse of this if they prolong this war. The only thing we can do for now is to pray for them to get enlightened that there's no good benefits they can get for continue this conflict and they realize that human life is important.

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March 07, 2022, 01:07:08 PM
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Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault

How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?

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Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault
How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?
Can't say for sure on who's at fault over it but we don't know the real thing since they hide it publicly, some say it was just staged. I don't think that's what LEVSKI7 trying to portray for US to announce a war with Russia, it has to have a process and it wouldn't be just Biden that will say the word, this has to be decided by the Congress and not just solely by Biden.
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March 07, 2022, 02:00:19 PM
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In general, I understand what the majority of people here are saying. There is no doubt that civilians or Russian businesses are not directly responsible for any of this, and I am certainly not one who would say that. Yet virtually every country in the world is imposing sanctions against Russia as a whole. We can debate who brought Putin to power and who can take him down, but it doesn't matter at this point.
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March 07, 2022, 02:25:04 PM
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the russian people dont want the war this happen and its all about the command of their president and its not good to blame to the russian people that dont want this war happen if you want to support the both country because they are suffering right now those people needs help theres a way we cannot blame them because they dont want even too and it does not relate to the OP given platform because they have the bad reputation in the forum so why trust them.

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March 07, 2022, 02:34:41 PM
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Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault
How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?
Can't say for sure on who's at fault over it but we don't know the real thing since they hide it publicly, some say it was just staged. I don't think that's what LEVSKI7 trying to portray for US to announce a war with Russia, it has to have a process and it wouldn't be just Biden that will say the word, this has to be decided by the Congress and not just solely by Biden.

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Seeing the video of the Ukrainian president's speech made my mind speculate a little, NATO made this war happen, it was purely their fault. ukraine never wanted war, it's like war between US and russia but it happened in ukraine. The Russian and US governments should be the ones who are penalized, not a russian gambling site.

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March 07, 2022, 02:43:18 PM
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Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault
How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?
Can't say for sure on who's at fault over it but we don't know the real thing since they hide it publicly, some say it was just staged. I don't think that's what LEVSKI7 trying to portray for US to announce a war with Russia, it has to have a process and it wouldn't be just Biden that will say the word, this has to be decided by the Congress and not just solely by Biden.

The news flying every day on tv are all just destructions in Ukraine like its something new. We've seen alot worse destructions in the wars of middle east. No one bats an eye, no Reuters or BBC coming even to just flash images on tv.

No news these days talks about the nevotiations before the war. People will not seek the reason any more or whos fault. No tv station explains why Ukaine wants to Join NATO and why Russia oppose it. But some TV stations reports how many brothers were established overnight because of many sexy Ukrainian runaways.


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March 07, 2022, 05:42:42 PM
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The conversation is about 1xbet, when it comes to who owns them and where they are registered, no one should have any doubts, unless you want to undermine the credibility of all sources presented on this forum and in internet.
It is clearly written everywhere that 1X Corp N.V. (owner of 1xbet) is a company from Cyprus.
So it is foolish to boycott a company that is not Russian, unless the purposes of the boycott are different than what you described in the topic and opening post.

Ps. If 1xStavka is website of 1X Corp N.V. it means that it still is website of company from Cyprus.

OK, I don't know if you have trouble reading or what? It is clear from the source you referred to that 1X Corp N.V. company filled for bankruptcy. What does it matter where it was registered if it is no longer operational?

PS You are confused. It wasn't me who wanted to undermine the credibility of the source but you.


It is important that 1X Corp N.V. (owner of 1xbet) was never Russian company.

So could you explain why you want to boycott a non-Russian company that, from what you say, doesn't even exist?
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March 07, 2022, 06:18:13 PM
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Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault
How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?
Can't say for sure on who's at fault over it but we don't know the real thing since they hide it publicly, some say it was just staged. I don't think that's what LEVSKI7 trying to portray for US to announce a war with Russia, it has to have a process and it wouldn't be just Biden that will say the word, this has to be decided by the Congress and not just solely by Biden.
The news flying every day on tv are all just destructions in Ukraine like its something new. We've seen alot worse destructions in the wars of middle east. No one bats an eye, no Reuters or BBC coming even to just flash images on tv.

No news these days talks about the nevotiations before the war. People will not seek the reason any more or whos fault. No tv station explains why Ukaine wants to Join NATO and why Russia oppose it. But some TV stations reports how many brothers were established overnight because of many sexy Ukrainian runaways.
Because if it's America that trying to invade a nation it's called a liberation but if other country does it's an act of aggression. Yosemite (pun intended)? You would just mbe surprised how media these days operate, we may never know how to spot the right from wrong.
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March 07, 2022, 06:19:57 PM
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I also don't see it as a right way to support Ukraine because it won't make things better but rather affect innocent people who are just trying to run a gambling business. There are other ways to support Ukraine and ruining businesses isn't a good idea and it won't also bring down Russia. Their economy is too strong to be affected by this boycott.
I think you are right cause supporting Ukraine by scrapping gambling platform that originated from Russian is not the best way to tackle this situation. We don't need to follow aggression to follow this scene. We all know that we have my Russians on this platform which are potential members of this forum. We all need to focus on different ways to tackle this situation, not by using aggressive means to create more problem here.

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March 07, 2022, 06:34:23 PM
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I also don't see it as a right way to support Ukraine because it won't make things better but rather affect innocent people who are just trying to run a gambling business. There are other ways to support Ukraine and ruining businesses isn't a good idea and it won't also bring down Russia. Their economy is too strong to be affected by this boycott.
I think you are right cause supporting Ukraine by scrapping gambling platform that originated from Russian is not the best way to tackle this situation. We don't need to follow aggression to follow this scene. We all know that we have my Russians on this platform which are potential members of this forum. We all need to focus on different ways to tackle this situation, not by using aggressive means to create more problem here.
This is right, that any boycotts against people or organizations that you personally do not know and in general have not done anything bad to you cannot be necessary. 
I believe that, of course, everyone decides for himself what to do, but keep in mind that a boycott of people unknown to you, who may not deserve it at all, is morally unfair and, in my opinion, wrong.

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March 07, 2022, 06:49:00 PM
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I also don't see it as a right way to support Ukraine because it won't make things better but rather affect innocent people who are just trying to run a gambling business. There are other ways to support Ukraine and ruining businesses isn't a good idea and it won't also bring down Russia. Their economy is too strong to be affected by this boycott.
I think you are right cause supporting Ukraine by scrapping gambling platform that originated from Russian is not the best way to tackle this situation. We don't need to follow aggression to follow this scene. We all know that we have my Russians on this platform which are potential members of this forum. We all need to focus on different ways to tackle this situation, not by using aggressive means to create more problem here.
This is right, that any boycotts against people or organizations that you personally do not know and in general have not done anything bad to you cannot be necessary.  
I believe that, of course, everyone decides for himself what to do, but keep in mind that a boycott of people unknown to you, who may not deserve it at all, is morally unfair and, in my opinion, wrong.

Are you guys saying that nobody should care about what is happening in Ukraine?
What is happening there is a crime that should not happen anywhere in the 21st century! Boycotting casinos is a banal thing compared to the punishment that the Russian government should pay! Cutting off the flow of tax money from casinos to support this war is a drop in the ocean, but we should at least in this way protest against murdering people for no reason.

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March 07, 2022, 07:01:10 PM
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Are you guys saying that nobody should care about what is happening in Ukraine?
What is happening there is a crime that should not happen anywhere in the 21st century! Boycotting casinos is a banal thing compared to the punishment that the Russian government should pay! Cutting off the flow of tax money from casinos to support this war is a drop in the ocean, but we should at least in this way protest against murdering people for no reason.
You are missing the point. It's not like they don't care. Instead, they don't want to harm innocent Russians who don't support this war which makes complete sense since they are the ones who suffer along with the innocent Ukraine citizens.

If sanctions and restrictions actually worked, Putin would have stopped the invasion in the early stages itself. However, that clearly didn't happen since he isn't scared of anything.

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