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March 07, 2022, 07:26:24 PM
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Are you guys saying that nobody should care about what is happening in Ukraine?
What is happening there is a crime that should not happen anywhere in the 21st century! Boycotting casinos is a banal thing compared to the punishment that the Russian government should pay! Cutting off the flow of tax money from casinos to support this war is a drop in the ocean, but we should at least in this way protest against murdering people for no reason.
You are missing the point. It's not like they don't care. Instead, they don't want to harm innocent Russians who don't support this war which makes complete sense since they are the ones who suffer along with the innocent Ukraine citizens.

If sanctions and restrictions actually worked, Putin would have stopped the invasion in the early stages itself. However, that clearly didn't happen since he isn't scared of anything.

Innocent Russian citizens are also suffering in this war. If people around the globe will cut them off from any possible source of income, how they will survive in this crisis? They are also human beings who want to live. The unfortunate situation is that they have a leader who doesn't want to hear the begging of his people to stop. There are so many rallies inside Russia also but seems that their leader won't stop now. Maybe, what we need is just respect to everyone. Let them do their thing to survive in this battle.
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March 07, 2022, 07:52:51 PM
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Are you guys saying that nobody should care about what is happening in Ukraine?
What is happening there is a crime that should not happen anywhere in the 21st century! Boycotting casinos is a banal thing compared to the punishment that the Russian government should pay! Cutting off the flow of tax money from casinos to support this war is a drop in the ocean, but we should at least in this way protest against murdering people for no reason.
You are missing the point. It's not like they don't care. Instead, they don't want to harm innocent Russians who don't support this war which makes complete sense since they are the ones who suffer along with the innocent Ukraine citizens.

If sanctions and restrictions actually worked, Putin would have stopped the invasion in the early stages itself. However, that clearly didn't happen since he isn't scared of anything.

The purpose of boycotts and sanctions is not to destroy the country. It is only a tool to put pressure on the decision to stop the war. If the current sanctions and boycotts do not work, they must be increased until they are effective. If not Putin himself understand that, the oligarchs and society should understand this and remove Putin from the presidency. If this does not happen, there will be a war between Russia and NATO, and this is what the Russian people certainly does not want.

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March 07, 2022, 10:01:48 PM
 #203

Are you guys saying that nobody should care about what is happening in Ukraine?
What is happening there is a crime that should not happen anywhere in the 21st century! Boycotting casinos is a banal thing compared to the punishment that the Russian government should pay! Cutting off the flow of tax money from casinos to support this war is a drop in the ocean, but we should at least in this way protest against murdering people for no reason.
You are missing the point. It's not like they don't care. Instead, they don't want to harm innocent Russians who don't support this war which makes complete sense since they are the ones who suffer along with the innocent Ukraine citizens.

If sanctions and restrictions actually worked, Putin would have stopped the invasion in the early stages itself. However, that clearly didn't happen since he isn't scared of anything.

The purpose of boycotts and sanctions is not to destroy the country. It is only a tool to put pressure on the decision to stop the war. If the current sanctions and boycotts do not work, they must be increased until they are effective. If not Putin himself understand that, the oligarchs and society should understand this and remove Putin from the presidency. If this does not happen, there will be a war between Russia and NATO, and this is what the Russian people certainly does not want.
I know that NATO is doing quite a great job in making sure that the war ended soon. The sanction was to put an end to the Russian aggressive attack on the Ukrainians soil. I am very happy that the war had ended which is a good effort. Now that the war had ended, we shouldn't use this means to attack the Russians because of the scene which I know that many of them never supported this act.

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March 07, 2022, 10:07:10 PM
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when a people choose a president, people must be aware that they are choosing someone who will fight to ensure their well being, what other countries are doing when putting sanctions against russia and precisely to remind the russian people that they must remove the cause of all evils that in this case would be its leader, the other countries are right to put sanctions against Russia, about boycotting gambling sites that the owners are Russians is something that needs to be analyzed in each case, for example if the site is located in the USA so person needs to follow what the US government determines if they are banning people from russia to have gambling sites there then it makes sense not to use the site, if the person is american and the site is located in russia it also makes sense the person from america does not use the site, it will depend on each person if they will respect the law and if they will have morals
What you are saying makes sense, however can the Russian population do that? I mean Putin has been the leader of Russia now for a very long time, so I think we can assume there is not a true democracy at Russia for their citizens to remove him peacefully, which means that the only way to get him out of power would be for other powerful officials to see what is going on and decide to start a revolt against him, but when every single public officer is his friend and has been bought then the chances of a change of leadership at Russia seem to be very low.
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March 07, 2022, 10:21:25 PM
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when a people choose a president, people must be aware that they are choosing someone who will fight to ensure their well being, what other countries are doing when putting sanctions against russia and precisely to remind the russian people that they must remove the cause of all evils that in this case would be its leader, the other countries are right to put sanctions against Russia, about boycotting gambling sites that the owners are Russians is something that needs to be analyzed in each case, for example if the site is located in the USA so person needs to follow what the US government determines if they are banning people from russia to have gambling sites there then it makes sense not to use the site, if the person is american and the site is located in russia it also makes sense the person from america does not use the site, it will depend on each person if they will respect the law and if they will have morals
What you are saying makes sense, however can the Russian population do that? I mean Putin has been the leader of Russia now for a very long time, so I think we can assume there is not a true democracy at Russia for their citizens to remove him peacefully, which means that the only way to get him out of power would be for other powerful officials to see what is going on and decide to start a revolt against him, but when every single public officer is his friend and has been bought then the chances of a change of leadership at Russia seem to be very low.

There are also very rich Russians who have already lost billions by this war and are losing more with each passing day. I think Putin was wrong because he thought he would get Ukraine in 3-4 days and not suffer financial losses. Blocked funds by Russian billionaires around the world are changing the situation. I think Putin's removal is very likely, and it is precisely actions such as sanctions and boycotts that will lead to it. (Because I do not allow the thought that this war could flow over the whole world.)

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March 07, 2022, 11:08:50 PM
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Stopping cash flow is really going to cleave their economy.

Well, there have been a lot of companies that have left Russia already. So, to sum it up, there go the sanctions, companies leaving Russia, and as well as this plan of ignoring these companies.

That's really going to be hard for the Russia if this is going to keep happening on their economy for a long time.

This is the purpose of economic sanctions. The economic losses Russia will experience due to the product boycott, restrictions and sanctions must be bigger than any possible profit from the war that goes on . Once Putin realizes this he will end the invasion. Lets hope it will happen as soon as possible.
I am not sure if Putin is going to count that for.

He looks eager in continuing the war and doesn't mind the damages that Russia's economy is taking. I don't know if I've read it correctly elsewhere that the upend for this war is about to be seen due to the help of China regarding their economy.

As China is one of the top in the economy right now.

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March 07, 2022, 11:29:06 PM
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We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
These are scammers and nonreputable platforms. I never use them because of so many scam accusations. Better not to use them.

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
We can support the victims, but by boycotting, it will also make victims also for the Russian people? I heard that not all Russian people also want this war. Will this kind of boycott really work to decrease the income of the country?
The war is about politics between the government and certain parties. I also heard that Russia doesn't attack the civilians. Well, don't know the turth excatly. Hopefully they will exactly face the peace deal soon

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March 07, 2022, 11:29:13 PM
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when a people choose a president, people must be aware that they are choosing someone who will fight to ensure their well being, what other countries are doing when putting sanctions against russia and precisely to remind the russian people that they must remove the cause of all evils that in this case would be its leader, the other countries are right to put sanctions against Russia, about boycotting gambling sites that the owners are Russians is something that needs to be analyzed in each case, for example if the site is located in the USA so person needs to follow what the US government determines if they are banning people from russia to have gambling sites there then it makes sense not to use the site, if the person is american and the site is located in russia it also makes sense the person from america does not use the site, it will depend on each person if they will respect the law and if they will have morals
What you are saying makes sense, however can the Russian population do that? I mean Putin has been the leader of Russia now for a very long time, so I think we can assume there is not a true democracy at Russia for their citizens to remove him peacefully, which means that the only way to get him out of power would be for other powerful officials to see what is going on and decide to start a revolt against him, but when every single public officer is his friend and has been bought then the chances of a change of leadership at Russia seem to be very low.

There are also very rich Russians who have already lost billions by this war and are losing more with each passing day. I think Putin was wrong because he thought he would get Ukraine in 3-4 days and not suffer financial losses. Blocked funds by Russian billionaires around the world are changing the situation. I think Putin's removal is very likely, and it is precisely actions such as sanctions and boycotts that will lead to it. (Because I do not allow the thought that this war could flow over the whole world.)
Everything could really lead into this situation if this war would continue to hold for long.Sanctions would be everywhere and cutting off ties would be also there which it would really hurt the economy so

bad which would really result into some sort of total u-turn of events on kicking out Putin into its current position.They are really putting their country at bad shape which it is really just the consequences
on what he had done on UK or due to his own ambitions and things that circling out into his mind on resulting to this war.

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Stopping cash flow is really going to cleave their economy.

Well, there have been a lot of companies that have left Russia already. So, to sum it up, there go the sanctions, companies leaving Russia, and as well as this plan of ignoring these companies.

That's really going to be hard for the Russia if this is going to keep happening on their economy for a long time.

This is the purpose of economic sanctions. The economic losses Russia will experience due to the product boycott, restrictions and sanctions must be bigger than any possible profit from the war that goes on . Once Putin realizes this he will end the invasion. Lets hope it will happen as soon as possible.
I am not sure if Putin is going to count that for.

He looks eager in continuing the war and doesn't mind the damages that Russia's economy is taking. I don't know if I've read it correctly elsewhere that the upend for this war is about to be seen due to the help of China regarding their economy.

As China is one of the top in the economy right now.

Of course, China is a giant at the moment, but it is not involved in this dispute.
If the boycotts and sanctions do not work for Putin, they should work for Russian billionaires and the citizens. If he cannot understand that he is leading his country to a catastrophe, other Russians should understand and remove him from the presidency chear. In my opinion, that would be the best solution. Except, of course, to stop the war immediately.

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Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault
How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?
Can't say for sure on who's at fault over it but we don't know the real thing since they hide it publicly, some say it was just staged. I don't think that's what LEVSKI7 trying to portray for US to announce a war with Russia, it has to have a process and it wouldn't be just Biden that will say the word, this has to be decided by the Congress and not just solely by Biden.

The news flying every day on tv are all just destructions in Ukraine like its something new. We've seen alot worse destructions in the wars of middle east. No one bats an eye, no Reuters or BBC coming even to just flash images on tv.

No news these days talks about the nevotiations before the war. People will not seek the reason any more or whos fault. No tv station explains why Ukaine wants to Join NATO and why Russia oppose it. But some TV stations reports how many brothers were established overnight because of many sexy Ukrainian runaways.

Its all around broadcasted all over the world and the people dont want this war happen thats why they make an immediately peace talk the both president of the country with bidens face each other to make sure they can make an agreement for having a ceasefire for a while because many people affected and they dont have a choice but to evacuate the area to make themselves secured. The people of both country does not want this war.

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Why would others have to suffer because of their country?
Even though we know that those given gambling platform have negative trust but what about other platforms from Russia that are giving their customer a good service?
We don't even know if their owner is participating or in favor for the war or just wants to live in peace.

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I am not sure if Putin is going to count that for.

He looks eager in continuing the war and doesn't mind the damages that Russia's economy is taking. I don't know if I've read it correctly elsewhere that the upend for this war is about to be seen due to the help of China regarding their economy.

As China is one of the top in the economy right now.

Of course, China is a giant at the moment, but it is not involved in this dispute.
If the boycotts and sanctions do not work for Putin, they should work for Russian billionaires and the citizens. If he cannot understand that he is leading his country to a catastrophe, other Russians should understand and remove him from the presidency chear. In my opinion, that would be the best solution. Except, of course, to stop the war immediately.
Those Russian billionaires have been complaining already that they're losing a lot of money due to the war.

He understands that he's the one who's causing ruckus with their economy. He's the main reason why countries putting sanctions to their economy and while China is backing him up through making up with their economy, he's still going to ignore the sanctions.

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Why would others have to suffer because of their country?
Even though we know that those given gambling platform have negative trust but what about other platforms from Russia that are giving their customer a good service?
We don't even know if their owner is participating or in favor for the war or just wants to live in peace.


That happens when you start a war out of nowhere.A lot of innocent people from the country starting the war usually suffer consequences although not all countries starting invasions do so,but in this specific case they do.The whole world is against what Putin is doing and they are putting all sort of sanctions and even further strengthening them that they are all inclusive when they hit the "targets" in this scenario all the Russians citizens pro and against this war.

It may be wrong but Europe is in support of all big IT businesses in Europe which collectively have said to Russians normal citizens: "Not a single job ever you will get again from us."

Most other big businesses are following by cutting business relations in Russia completely.The innocent civilians in Russia are paying a really high price too from this war.

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We don't even know if their owner is participating or in favor for the war or just wants to live in peace.

If they are licensed gambling site, of course they are paying taxes and where do taxes go? To government and what will the government do with the tax? Use it for war and besides licensed or regulated gambling platforms has the highest taxes in the world if I am correct. So whether the owner is in favor of war or not it doesn't matter.

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Why would others have to suffer because of their country?
Even though we know that those given gambling platform have negative trust but what about other platforms from Russia that are giving their customer a good service?
We don't even know if their owner is participating or in favor for the war or just wants to live in peace.


That is temporarily sanction for government to notice about their bad decision made since if there economy will suffer for sure it will reach to their people until to other branch of governments then they protest about this since this hurt them badly. For sure many think about that since its crazy to see if your economy got crumpled and for sure it will reach unto the leaders head about this situation.

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The way everyone is sanctioning things in Russia, it seems there are no one living in Russia that the 144.1 million people are not human LOL

Imagine from the point of a Russian Civilian who is not supporting the war in Ukraine, who wants peace dialog and want to see the brotherhood between these two county. But just because he is a Russian now he can not visit an EU county or in a state of America , he can not have assets in these regions, he can not conduct any business at all, his assets are being seized . He has no right in those countries. Or may be he is in any of these countries living for long time. From now on his life will be a harder. The Russian military is killing innocent civilians but the rest of the word is making Russian civilians life a misery.

What are we achieving from this WAR?

PS: This is not an statement in favor of 1xBET and 1xBit . These scammers should not be existed in the first place.

This is what I'm pertaining to. If we were to boycott everything related with Russia, not only in gambling industry to take the initiative, but in general, innocent people would be affected as well. Hence, we should really think twice is doing it if we intend and plan to do so, because the impact won't be directed to those who are in favor of war, but also to those people who are against it and just want peace and unity. People in Russia have expressed their stance against their president's decision in invading and bombing Ukraine. In fact, people even gather to make a protest, taking their chance to be heard by the authorities. Right now, there are a lot of sanctions given to them which impacts the innocent ones as well. The sanction applies to everyone. With this, those who belong to the middle and lower bracket would be likely be affected the most compared to those elites that have stored their wealth in most forms, preparing for this to happen.

I believe most of the Russian citizens don't want war because what they even gain from it? Only those who are greedy and those people who are in line with the things related to war are celebrating while majority are suffering. It would be so hard for the business owner if that the rate would decrease, most especially if there would be totally none playing on their business. It would really take a toll on them especially those who only relies from it as their main source of income. Even the most known gambling site can fall too. Let's think again before deciding to avoid further damages to those who don't deserve to be persecuted.
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Are there a lot of Russian gambling platforms, that everyone wants to boycott? Those who want to do it, do you even gamble there? Or you just want to boycott something you dont use? Funny. I think mostly Russians are the only one who gamble there. Maybe someone from neighbour countries use them. But not many people abroad Russia, gamble there.  There are so many gambling platforms nowadays, than no one will even noticed that part of them are being under boycott.

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Are there a lot of Russian gambling platforms, that everyone wants to boycott? Those who want to do it, do you even gamble there? Or you just want to boycott something you dont use? Funny. I think mostly Russians are the only one who gamble there. Maybe someone from neighbour countries use them. But not many people abroad Russia, gamble there.  There are so many gambling platforms nowadays, than no one will even noticed that part of them are being under boycott.

Honestly speaking, you have a point. With the number of Russian casino operating, and many players gamble on their site, starting a boycott campaign won’t ensure that these casinos would feel a significant impact with the act especially that Russian people are naturally supporting them. However, regardless of such opposing circumstances, I really look up to those participating with the act since it is a symbolism of their desire for peace, unity and equality for all against the inhumane acts of Russian government.

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Are there a lot of Russian gambling platforms, that everyone wants to boycott? Those who want to do it, do you even gamble there? Or you just want to boycott something you dont use? Funny.

That's true I am not even familiar with other Russian gambling sites but I think the community only wants to support to boycott Russian gambling site but I think we can show support in other terms such as in donation to help people from Ukraine that wants to migrate to neighboring countries. I think simple donations would make a good impact, I see Bitcasino has a donation run where they double the donation of the donator and I think that is a good one.

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March 08, 2022, 06:00:26 PM
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Why would others have to suffer because of their country?
Even though we know that those given gambling platform have negative trust but what about other platforms from Russia that are giving their customer a good service?
We don't even know if their owner is participating or in favor for the war or just wants to live in peace.

Boycotts of this type can hardly cause suffering in the true sense of the word. As the Ukraine facing a human tragedy, maintaining the illusion of normality is going to be a tough sell. Russia's leaders are ignoring the wave of sanctions, and the economy of the country will be devastated if it doesn't alter its course. But how much will average Russians really feel the effects of boycotts by losing the freedom to travel, enjoy music and concerts or not be able to participate in world sports competitions?

The boycotts are a campaign of "soft terror" designed to make life harder for middle class and wealthier Russians. And they may be effective in making these Russians turn their backs on Putin and his policies. But this is unlikely to mean much for the majority of average Russians, and certainly will not be enough to cause them to turn away from him. Putin remains in power because, despite his unpopularity, there is enough support in Russia for his tough approach to the crisis, including the war in Ukraine.

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