Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms?

[delfastTions]

An article released earlier this week stating that Swiss Banks in Russia are being advice to close every accounts that is own by Russian citizen, with this move of the EU, this will definitely take a lot of toll in the Russian economy. I've read an article stating that Russia is utilizing its cryptocurrency capability, if the cryptocurrency community have taken sides with Ukraine, this will surely take down half of the Russian Economy. There is also a news where the U.S has stopped the exportation of Russian Oil in their port. Russian economy is now experiencing a serious downfall.

As I understand it, it will be impossible for any cryptocurrencies to get around such tough sanctions because the scale of the cryptocurrency markets is incomparable with the usual fiat markets. 
And the fact that the Bank of Switzerland has closed access to the accounts of a couple of hundred Russian citizens does not play any role at all. 
It will be even more interesting if the Russian authorities decide to sell energy supplies, natural resources, metals, wood, fertilizers and other raw materials exclusively for their national currency - for rubles.  It will be interesting to see how the dollar, euro and yuan will swing in this case. 
And I'm sure it will be quite funny, given that European countries receive 40% of their natural gas from Russia.
 

[Lanatsa]

An article released earlier this week stating that Swiss Banks in Russia are being advice to close every accounts that is own by Russian citizen, with this move of the EU, this will definitely take a lot of toll in the Russian economy. I've read an article stating that Russia is utilizing its cryptocurrency capability, if the cryptocurrency community have taken sides with Ukraine, this will surely take down half of the Russian Economy. There is also a news where the U.S has stopped the exportation of Russian Oil in their port. Russian economy is now experiencing a serious downfall.

Even I have read that US has stopped trading Oil and other commodities from Russia. It will create a major impact on Russia's economical growth.
But I doubt that Russia is planning to use cryptocurrencies because from what I read the Russian banks are still against cryptocurrencies.
Their stance on cryptocurrency is still to ban the usage of all coins.

Why people do really mind much on how Russian would be handling out their economic problems? Whether they do like it or not there would be some effects that could be felt out but they didnt end up on such decision

if they werent prepared on the first place.Lots of countries had already cut ties with this country but still they do able to withstand somehow with the effects and couldnt deny that Russia is also an importer
which it did really affect several places or even the world market which is really that evident as of this moment.

[Hamphser]

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Not just these two countries are affected by their war but we also affected due to delay of foods exported and imported in our different countries and like you said some prices will roll up like here in my country Philippines, gasoline and many daily needs was marked up, last 4 days and if this war will continued in a few months for sure many country will be affected.

Totally relevant on rising up prices because they are worlds  leading natural gas exporter and also oil exporter and producer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia

So it isnt surprising that this current war did really make out some effects and this would even gotten worse as this war would continue.

Some times it cross on my mind on why such things create a huge effect on the economy while Middle east is also an option if we talk about oil supply, maybe there are global players play this and manipulate the current situation just to increase the price of the oil. Hopefully we can see the price of oil get back to normal after the war ends since this is really one of the biggest reason why the price of basic commodity rise up.

On this particular condition on which there are competitors had already close their borders then of course they would really take advantage of that on which they could rise up prices as they do they like.
They would just simply reason out on the current crisis that we do have now which do affect overall supply which as a consumer then we wont really be having any choice but to deal with high prices
not only on oil but also in other commodities as well.

[bitbollo]

Meanwhile... other gambling platforms from "Western countries" have clearly decide to make public effort about this war/support population offended directly by bombs (a noble gesture of course).
It seems this news was not to be provided on public but at the end... it was released !

https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1501371018585075714

Stake has donated $1 million worth of bitcoin (25.63 BTC) towards humanitarian efforts in Ukraine.

Should offer a donation also for the population hit by the "economic bombs" (sanctions / monetary collapses)?

[Eureka_07]

What choice do we have to somehow slow down the much dominant Russia on this war? If it means we have to boycott all Russian gambling platforms, then so be it to feel that there's always a consequences for any actions. I consider the war mostly as Putin's war and not Russia's war that's why to end this mess, put a pressure to Putin as a head of the state.

Generally, from what i see, here in the forum, there's only a few Russian-based gambling here so there's no impact or difference if we have to boycott or not those gambling platforms based on Russia since in the first place, we are not really used on betting on those.

I believe most (if not all) Russian citizens are against this war. This doesn't bring any good thing. All of us know that, it jut creates destruction of lives and properties, peace is abrupted. It also costs a lot of money. Specially to the one that was directly attacked (Ukraine in this case).

Is PNXbet russian based? Here on our region, this casino is actively advertised, until now, I don't hear any complaints (I didn't looked a lot).

[udidrone]

Meanwhile... other gambling platforms from "Western countries" have clearly decide to make public effort about this war/support population offended directly by bombs (a noble gesture of course).
It seems this news was not to be provided on public but at the end... it was released !

https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1501371018585075714

Stake has donated $1 million worth of bitcoin (25.63 BTC) towards humanitarian efforts in Ukraine.

Should offer a donation also for the population hit by the "economic bombs" (sanctions / monetary collapses)?

A campaign like this is more real than a boycott campaign that has no direct effect on the Russian authorities. Boycotting russian gambling platforms does nothing for the government more specifically, only a loss for site owners who actually don't know anything. War is a political dispute between countries not between citizens the one who is under pressure should be the government, not the citizens and the business.

[AmoreJaz]

Meanwhile... other gambling platforms from "Western countries" have clearly decide to make public effort about this war/support population offended directly by bombs (a noble gesture of course).
It seems this news was not to be provided on public but at the end... it was released !

https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1501371018585075714

Stake has donated $1 million worth of bitcoin (25.63 BTC) towards humanitarian efforts in Ukraine.

Should offer a donation also for the population hit by the "economic bombs" (sanctions / monetary collapses)?

A campaign like this is more real than a boycott campaign that has no direct effect on the Russian authorities. Boycotting russian gambling platforms does nothing for the government more specifically, only a loss for site owners who actually don't know anything. War is a political dispute between countries not between citizens the one who is under pressure should be the government, not the citizens and the business.

unfortunately, in this war, their people are the ones who will suffer the most of its impact. because their leader, can still live a luxury lifestyle. hunger is not his problem but power. so yeah for me, there's no sense of boycotting russian casinos or any other businesses, because it is the innocent people who will suffer the consequences not the leader himself.
but these casinos can always donate to the people affected by this crisis, as they have no means to survive for now.

[harizen]

Should be a good initiative as a form of peaceful rally.

However, Putin won't likely feel the negative effect of it. Prior to the start of the invasion, Putin already anticipates that some boycott or any related thing might happen on the process not just in gambling platforms but for the other sectors, businesses, industries etc. as well. He surely knows about it and the consequences their country will face once he push on that war which he actually did.

Russia might not feel the impact of it on their economy for a short-run but it should be if the on-going invasion won't be stopped for long.

[traderethereum]

unfortunately, in this war, their people are the ones who will suffer the most of its impact. because their leader, can still live a luxury lifestyle. hunger is not his problem but power. so yeah for me, there's no sense of boycotting russian casinos or any other businesses, because it is the innocent people who will suffer the consequences not the leader himself.
but these casinos can always donate to the people affected by this crisis, as they have no means to survive for now.

Yes, that's correct. I wonder how their leaders will react when they see and know that their people are suffering from hunger and so on.
Do these leaders not think about the lives of their people who are suffering the consequences of the war?
Hopefully, there will be more donations for people who are suffering from it to feel the need for help.
But the most important thing is to think about how to save his people.

[Furious 7]

there is a little error here, Don't really agree with the boycott doesn't mean we are pro to a country, right?
I think it's okay to do Boykot on everything related to Russia, but that doesn't mean we have to force other people who don't want to deal with it. because it's good to boycott or not, it's up to each individual and indeed we can't force what we want on other people.

When you say the invasion of Russia and Ukraine, it's clearly purely about politics and the sanctions that are given as a form of solidarity are to give something of a deterrent effect to those who do it. But on the other hand we also have to see who should be attacked and who should not because even if we see that not everyone there agrees with the invasion, there are even those who tend to vehemently oppose it. My point is don't generalize everything because of one mistake. what is done due to political problems because business and politics will still be different

[ScamViruS]

Meanwhile... other gambling platforms from "Western countries" have clearly decide to make public effort about this war/support population offended directly by bombs (a noble gesture of course).
It seems this news was not to be provided on public but at the end... it was released !

https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1501371018585075714

Stake has donated $1 million worth of bitcoin (25.63 BTC) towards humanitarian efforts in Ukraine.

Should offer a donation also for the population hit by the "economic bombs" (sanctions / monetary collapses)?

A campaign like this is more real than a boycott campaign that has no direct effect on the Russian authorities. Boycotting russian gambling platforms does nothing for the government more specifically, only a loss for site owners who actually don't know anything. War is a political dispute between countries not between citizens the one who is under pressure should be the government, not the citizens and the business.

Looking at the current situation, it is understood that normal people are suffering more. All the traders are suffering a lot due to various sanctions. It is true that the owners of gambling websites are not to blame and this is purely political. But the political leaders are living their luxurious life from a safe place but on the other hand normal people are suffering a lot. While this may be strongly linked to other campaigns, the situation is heading in that direction. So I think it's up to the gamblers to decide where they really want to go.

[Silberman]

when a people choose a president, people must be aware that they are choosing someone who will fight to ensure their well being, what other countries are doing when putting sanctions against russia and precisely to remind the russian people that they must remove the cause of all evils that in this case would be its leader, the other countries are right to put sanctions against Russia, about boycotting gambling sites that the owners are Russians is something that needs to be analyzed in each case, for example if the site is located in the USA so person needs to follow what the US government determines if they are banning people from russia to have gambling sites there then it makes sense not to use the site, if the person is american and the site is located in russia it also makes sense the person from america does not use the site, it will depend on each person if they will respect the law and if they will have morals

What you are saying makes sense, however can the Russian population do that? I mean Putin has been the leader of Russia now for a very long time, so I think we can assume there is not a true democracy at Russia for their citizens to remove him peacefully, which means that the only way to get him out of power would be for other powerful officials to see what is going on and decide to start a revolt against him, but when every single public officer is his friend and has been bought then the chances of a change of leadership at Russia seem to be very low.

There are also very rich Russians who have already lost billions by this war and are losing more with each passing day. I think Putin was wrong because he thought he would get Ukraine in 3-4 days and not suffer financial losses. Blocked funds by Russian billionaires around the world are changing the situation. I think Putin's removal is very likely, and it is precisely actions such as sanctions and boycotts that will lead to it. (Because I do not allow the thought that this war could flow over the whole world.)

That is without a doubt an interesting perspective and you may have a point, but when we take into account that a great deal of the Russian Billionaires are that way precisely because of their link with Putin and they begin to think of the huge amounts of money they can still make with him then this weakens your argument somewhat, since regardless of what we may think about Putin as a person there is little doubt that he is skilled politician and that he will do everything that is necessary for him to remain in power.

[DoublerHunter]

^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.

[Marvelman]

there is a little error here, Don't really agree with the boycott doesn't mean we are pro to a country, right?
I think it's okay to do Boykot on everything related to Russia, but that doesn't mean we have to force other people who don't want to deal with it. because it's good to boycott or not, it's up to each individual and indeed we can't force what we want on other people.

No one said we should force people into anything they don't want to do. We are not in Russia.  
From the title, you can see that this topic is framed as a question to encourage an exchange of views. Of course, each individual has the right to decide how they want to proceed.

When you say the invasion of Russia and Ukraine, it's clearly purely about politics and the sanctions that are given as a form of solidarity are to give something of a deterrent effect to those who do it. But on the other hand we also have to see who should be attacked and who should not because even if we see that not everyone there agrees with the invasion, there are even those who tend to vehemently oppose it. My point is don't generalize everything because of one mistake. what is done due to political problems because business and politics will still be different

I never intended to generalize or claim that all Russians were to blame. Their government should be held responsible, not ordinary citizens.
The boycott is in protest. Similar to other companies withdrawing their services and activities from Russia, and similar to the boycott of Russian athletes from sports competitions.

^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.

If this is true, then Mr. Putin is ahead of us. Instead of voluntary boycotting some Russian services, he will force us to boycott them all, and he will force his people to boycott the rest of the digital world. Imagine that! This is how a true leader behaves. 

[mak013]

^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.

And how the gamblers will withdraw their money? The support willn`t work, the casinos willn`t work. I don`t see any problems to anyone except gamblers from this boycott. The best choice is to withdraw your money and boycott after that. Possible that the OP did so. If you so want to boycott - boycott real things and real men. These gambling sites - is a profit of 20-50 men, and they don`t pay anything to Russia.

[Marvelman]

And how the gamblers will withdraw their money? The support willn`t work, the casinos willn`t work. I don`t see any problems to anyone except gamblers from this boycott. The best choice is to withdraw your money and boycott after that. Possible that the OP did so.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. How can a customer withdraw money if both the website and customer support are unavailable?
I think withdrawing all funds and abandoning all Russian-based platforms is the best thing we can do before the Russian government decides to completely cut itself off from the rest of the Internet. Just as I suggested in my OP.

If you so want to boycott - boycott real things and real men. These gambling sites - is a profit of 20-50 men, and they don`t pay anything to Russia.

Again, I don't understand, what do you mean by "they don't pay anything to Russia"?
All legal businesses must pay taxes in their home countries. Licensed casinos pay even more since gambling is subject to additional laws and regulations.

[mak013]

And how the gamblers will withdraw their money? The support willn`t work, the casinos willn`t work. I don`t see any problems to anyone except gamblers from this boycott. The best choice is to withdraw your money and boycott after that. Possible that the OP did so.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. How can a customer withdraw money if both the website and customer support are unavailable?
I think withdrawing all funds and abandoning all Russian-based platforms is the best thing we can do before the Russian government decides to completely cut itself off from the rest of the Internet. Just as I suggested in my OP.

I don`t think that it will be Russian government initiative, but it doesn`t matter.
I mean that there are men in this casinos that are paid for reading the board. If they see that a lot of gamblers decided to boycott - the decision to stop withdraw and steal deposits looks logical. If you decided to boycott - firstly withdraw your money.

If you so want to boycott - boycott real things and real men. These gambling sites - is a profit of 20-50 men, and they don`t pay anything to Russia.

Again, I don't understand, what do you mean by "they don't pay anything to Russia"?
All legal businesses must pay taxes in their home countries. Licensed casinos pay even more since gambling is subject to additional laws and regulations.

Do you think they are registered in Russia? No, they pay taxes to Panama, Bahamas, Cyprus, etc.
If you really want to boycott Russia - don`t use or minimize using of gas and petrol.
If you really want to help Ukraine - don`t gamble but send you money to the Ukraine, host refugees from Ukraine.

It looks silly - to boycott russian casinos, cry about war and continue gambling.

[pawanjain]

^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.

But according to the link that you have posted, wasn't it only for March 11 ?
Will Russia be connecting to the global internet again on March 12 ?
What are they going to achieve by cutting off from the global internet just for 24 hours ?

[Shamm]

And how the gamblers will withdraw their money? The support willn`t work, the casinos willn`t work. I don`t see any problems to anyone except gamblers from this boycott. The best choice is to withdraw your money and boycott after that. Possible that the OP did so.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. How can a customer withdraw money if both the website and customer support are unavailable?
I think withdrawing all funds and abandoning all Russian-based platforms is the best thing we can do before the Russian government decides to completely cut itself off from the rest of the Internet. Just as I suggested in my OP.

I don`t think that it will be Russian government initiative, but it doesn`t matter.
I mean that there are men in this casinos that are paid for reading the board. If they see that a lot of gamblers decided to boycott - the decision to stop withdraw and steal deposits looks logical. If you decided to boycott - firstly withdraw your money.

Yes you are right if they know that many people will boycott it seems that they will go advance and hold the withdrawal and make it difficult so we need to be vigilant and have a advance mindset over them.
 And I think that's a good idea when in terms of boycott you need to withdraw your money first in order to be safe and good,

[Webetcoins]

there is a little error here, Don't really agree with the boycott doesn't mean we are pro to a country, right?
I think it's okay to do Boykot on everything related to Russia, but that doesn't mean we have to force other people who don't want to deal with it. because it's good to boycott or not, it's up to each individual and indeed we can't force what we want on other people.

When you say the invasion of Russia and Ukraine, it's clearly purely about politics and the sanctions that are given as a form of solidarity are to give something of a deterrent effect to those who do it. But on the other hand we also have to see who should be attacked and who should not because even if we see that not everyone there agrees with the invasion, there are even those who tend to vehemently oppose it. My point is don't generalize everything because of one mistake. what is done due to political problems because business and politics will still be different

Yes your pro to it if you disagree but what I don't get is the error you that your trying to say. The op sound like he wants other people to join him on his advocacy but we can see that not all people on this thread are with him because they also know that it was not totally the fault of Russian citizens but they are only a victim here. They are already suffering in other forms of sanction given to them but aren't we contented with that? Because, we want more.

Not sure if the root of the war is about politics but what I heard before is about country related stuff, I think Russia got angry because it wasn't included, something like that but whatever reason it is, they are only doing what they can to punish Russians.