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March 14, 2022, 09:35:09 PM
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^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.



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March 14, 2022, 09:53:41 PM
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^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.
As far as i know or been aware off which Anonymous does set out cyberwar against Russia which it result on downing lots of websites and online operations which is commendable.
I wasnt aware that US is engaging with it but i did some research and it is really actually happening
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/12/cyber-russia-hacking-security-00016598


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March 14, 2022, 10:42:49 PM
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^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.
As far as i know or been aware off which Anonymous does set out cyberwar against Russia which it result on downing lots of websites and online operations which is commendable.
I wasnt aware that US is engaging with it but i did some research and it is really actually happening
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/12/cyber-russia-hacking-security-00016598


We will not know what they are doing to halt this Russian invasion or at least to slow down this war. Most of them will say that it is highly confidential but if they can contribute in slowing down this war, we will appreciate this move. People are dying for no reasons. But Putin seems to be not stopping this "demilitarizing" action towards Ukraine. Somebody needs to step up and if this Anonymous group can contribute in terms of cyber attack, why not?
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March 14, 2022, 11:37:36 PM
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I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.

Russia is a big country, with a lot of inhabitants and a significant part of them will certainly be interested in gambling. Certainly because it is possible via Crypto, the origin of their money cannot be traced. Russians like to gamble, you can feel your own moral obligation to keep Russian customers away, but we are talking about a lot of money that you miss out on. Plus, it's pretty useless if all the sites don't come together to take action. Then they can always play at another site. I don't believe that all gambling sites will ever join this idea, the interests are too great for that and the Russians can't help it that there is war in the end. Putin should actually take a gamble at a gambling site, he has enough money.

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March 15, 2022, 01:24:02 AM
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I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.
We hate and want to stop war but not have to boycott of all Russian gambling site platform trough still trusted with deposit and withdrawal still process why have to make Russian gambling site as fault on war invasion. I think many big mistake made so far from sport competition suspend by FIFA until have this announcement for boycott with Russian gambling site, why many people looks blind with Russian invasion and we need to know why this war happening without any good choose to make right with war but need way how to solve this war without boycott all Russian gambling site.
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March 15, 2022, 02:37:26 AM
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You are right. By getting lithium from Ukraine, he can get other resources that can further strengthen his position as a powerful country. Maybe he wanted to build the Soviet Union like it used to be and even stronger because now he had a much stronger fleet than before. If Putin manages to get to Ukraine, he will improve the economic standards in his country and there is a possibility that he will tighten things up even more. His dream probably won't go the way he wants it because many countries out there don't go his way.

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Everyone hopes that the war can end soon because, after all, it is the people who will suffer more and more from the effects of war. Maybe later, there will be an offer from Putin to Zelensky that will make him interested in Putin's plans and eventually, Zelensky will decide to join Putin to end the war. If the boycott continues, the Russian economy may take a bit of a hit but I don't think it will weaken Russia because Russia has a lot of natural resources that can still help them survive.



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March 15, 2022, 12:20:01 PM
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I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.

This has merit, but I believe the primary goal of this was to show support to Ukrainians who are currently fighting in their war; this is similar to other actions taken to show support to them, such as banning Russia from participating in games or other events. Despite the fact that it will have an impact on everyone, the main goal was to demonstrate to them that they were wrong and that they shouldn't do what they were doing. As you can see, a lot of large corporations are either outright banning Russia or allowing something to be done to mock Russia. That is simply unadulterated support for Ukraine.
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I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.

But if Russian citizens that are not really directly involved with the invasion are affected by this crisis, they will then look for ways to be free of these sanctions and damages that their own government is giving them. Think of it like they're going to start a rebellion against their government that will overthrow the current head of state. It's not far from happening, considering the many coups and revolutions Russia has had in its entire existence. If the citizens themselves are being oppressed for something that they didn't do, they will, sooner or later, act and remove the root cause of all these problems, just like what any other countries that has had successful revolutions in the past.

Russian gambling platform owners do have enough money and capacity to help fund a rebellion, or at least influence other officials to go against Putin. If their business is hurt hard enough, they'd surely band together and put an end to Putin's delusion.
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WE are in very difficult time now. Being unaware of what is coming next. Earlier the whole world was fighting the Corona war and now the whole world is  trying to cool the Ukraine war. The  warlords have all the authority to do whatever they think is the right thing, Just because they think they have right to kill anyone anytime. Even if it is turing the whole country to ashes and snatching bread winners from the family.
We are still trying to fight against Corona while the attention of world leaders is divided to cool down the Ukraine war. That is why if the war in Ukraine and Russia can be ended soon, the government can focus again on helping the recovery of its people affected by the Corona virus. But it seems that the war between Ukraine and Russia doesn't know when it will end because there are no signs of getting there. Hopefully, the war between Ukraine and Russia does not get worse and does not have a greater impact.



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March 16, 2022, 06:05:14 AM
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WE are in very difficult time now. Being unaware of what is coming next. Earlier the whole world was fighting the Corona war and now the whole world is  trying to cool the Ukraine war. The  warlords have all the authority to do whatever they think is the right thing, Just because they think they have right to kill anyone anytime. Even if it is turing the whole country to ashes and snatching bread winners from the family.
We are still trying to fight against Corona while the attention of world leaders is divided to cool down the Ukraine war. That is why if the war in Ukraine and Russia can be ended soon, the government can focus again on helping the recovery of its people affected by the Corona virus. But it seems that the war between Ukraine and Russia doesn't know when it will end because there are no signs of getting there. Hopefully, the war between Ukraine and Russia does not get worse and does not have a greater impact.
Just get new topic discussing right now after two years ago we only focus talk with corona and now have new update discussing about war, I hate invasion Russia to Ukraine but have give us alternative not  talking about covid 19 only right now and looks have gone after invasion war by Russia, almost many impact from war crisis until many sport and gambling site try to boycott after football in Russia suspended now many people ask to boycott with Russia gambling platform.
Corona itself is not finished because there are still new variants that keep popping up in various countries. At the same time, the war between Ukraine and Russia is a hot topic of conversation everywhere. I also hate war, let alone the invasion of one country to another and causing suffering to many people. But it seems the leaders who started the war didn't realize that and wanted to continue to expand their territory by trying to conquer the surrounding countries. And sadly, the war's repercussions are likely to continue to spread, considering that many people are trying to boycott the Russian industry.



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March 17, 2022, 03:05:53 AM
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Russia will not come easy against the sanctions, they have announced a crack down on all 310 companies, which have stopped their operations in Russia. But I find Putin the root cause of most of the evils. He thinks he will remain president forever. There is an end to everything, life, tenure, job, business. I think with the end of tenure of Putin. World will be a better place. HOPEFULLY!
Yes, that's correct. Putin can't be president forever. Perhaps he had forgotten about it, which made it seem like he was rushing to take crackdown on everyone who tried to fight him. Hopefully, Putin can soon realize that what he has done is wrong and has made his people suffer.

We have given so much importacne to Russian and Ukraine war. But hardly talked about the other counties in humanitarian crisis for long. I am so tired of the killing and blood shed. This is not the right approach to any problem - I hope this war ends soon and may we all witness the dawn of peace.
No one wants to see murder and bloodshed, especially when it involves the lives of many people who don't know the real problem and have nothing to do with the war going on. We don't know what will happen if the whole world finally unites and presses Putin hard but hopefully, it will stop Putin from continuing wars that will have even worse repercussions. But if Putin still wants to continue the war against all the countries that want to fight him, maybe it will be the final fight for us.

Both side between Ukraine and Russia president looks arrogant why not getting deal with peace to make their country back to normal and without have many citizen as victim. I hate with war and not any way to make war is true but still need how each other try to get deal for stopping this war. I hate with many boycott words every where with Russia and all side have impact from gambling network until football competition like Chelsea FC get suspend right now after have good relationship between Chelsea owner and Russia's president.
It was all for the sake of gaining greater power and showing if they did have the power to conquer other countries. But it will only cause casualties and the people who suffer the most. We all hate war but it has happened and other countries have not been able to stop the war. Maybe there needs to be help from other neutral countries who will invite the leaders to make peace and reach an agreement not to continue the war.



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March 17, 2022, 08:29:14 PM
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^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.
As far as i know or been aware off which Anonymous does set out cyberwar against Russia which it result on downing lots of websites and online operations which is commendable.
I wasnt aware that US is engaging with it but i did some research and it is really actually happening
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/12/cyber-russia-hacking-security-00016598


Some of the most powerful countries around the world have been fighting each other over the cyberspace for a very long time as they tried to get to the secrets of the other, but now that there is an open war then it makes sense for the US to increase and to concentrate all their activities against Russia in order to slowdown as much as they can the Russian army and to disable their infrastructure, so the Russian government trying to go offline would be a way to try to subvert those attacks while at the same time liberate their hackers from their duty to defend to some other area where they are needed even more.



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I guess it depends on the platform again they are still businesses that would like to run and it's not their mistake that their government and president declares a war they just working and all inspecting and decisions happen. Well if the collective boycott will introduce by scam gambling platforms ill do support it I guess. They commit a ware even though it has a covid its not good for the people of both each country they letting the people more suffering with the crisis.

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March 17, 2022, 08:59:06 PM
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^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389189.0. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.
As far as i know or been aware off which Anonymous does set out cyberwar against Russia which it result on downing lots of websites and online operations which is commendable.
I wasnt aware that US is engaging with it but i did some research and it is really actually happening
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/12/cyber-russia-hacking-security-00016598


Some of the most powerful countries around the world have been fighting each other over the cyberspace for a very long time as they tried to get to the secrets of the other, but now that there is an open war then it makes sense for the US to increase and to concentrate all their activities against Russia in order to slowdown as much as they can the Russian army and to disable their infrastructure, so the Russian government trying to go offline would be a way to try to subvert those attacks while at the same time liberate their hackers from their duty to defend to some other area where they are needed even more.
Would really be normal that there would be adjustments made as long they could able to avoid when they are being attacked and put up some focus or emphasis on where it is needed the most.

Wars doesnt really happen physically but also on online war too which it is true that it is happening already for a long time.It is just this time it did really been on emphasis or been looked upon.
It would really be just a matter of time whether these things are relevant or not on times like these.

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March 17, 2022, 09:02:21 PM
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I guess it depends on the platform again they are still businesses that would like to run and it's not their mistake that their government and president declares a war they just working and all inspecting and decisions happen. Well if the collective boycott will introduce by scam gambling platforms ill do support it I guess. They commit a ware even though it has a covid its not good for the people of both each country they letting the people more suffering with the crisis.
^ You are definitely right, why would we let innocent businessmen suffer because they are the same culture that cause a war by their dictatorship leader.
I would also support it if Putin has a gambling casino and run on its own. But that is innocent people who trap in the middle of the war. However, if that is a scam casino, on the other hand, they should not even be here and I will support the boycott too. I don't know why the forum still allows this very well know scam casino even though their manager and participants got the negative tag.
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March 17, 2022, 10:17:27 PM
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Putin has plans to deal with all those companies which have banned their operations due to war. Although Russia seems to be standing alone now.
They're standing alone in dealing with this war but about their economic recovery, they're not alone. There's the help of China that they're already talking about and surely going to be there once they've been asked to but not in terms of military aid.

Because if it happens then that's a big problem not just for Ukraine but in the entire world as that will trigger WW3.

But I don't believe in real case scanioro it is happening. Politics is a dirty game. they some one thing to the world and do another thing.
This is more than politics and it's really affecting all of us. I'm starting to take note of those conspiracies that I've read before and although I'm not a believer of most of those that make sense to get the idea of some of those related to the invasion.

Aside from conquering the land and masses, it's about conquering a country's economic status and stopping them of what they can offer which always relative to money, big amount of money.

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March 17, 2022, 11:10:19 PM
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I guess it depends on the platform again they are still businesses that would like to run and it's not their mistake that their government and president declares a war they just working and all inspecting and decisions happen. Well if the collective boycott will introduce by scam gambling platforms ill do support it I guess. They commit a ware even though it has a covid its not good for the people of both each country they letting the people more suffering with the crisis.
^ You are definitely right, why would we let innocent businessmen suffer because they are the same culture that cause a war by their dictatorship leader.
I would also support it if Putin has a gambling casino and run on its own. But that is innocent people who trap in the middle of the war. However, if that is a scam casino, on the other hand, they should not even be here and I will support the boycott too. I don't know why the forum still allows this very well know scam casino even though their manager and participants got the negative tag.
You mean 1xbit? Scams arent moderated on this forum thats why as a forum user/member you should really be wise on dealing up with something.We arent that blind
to see those negative feedbacks which is a solid indication that it should be avoided on the first place.As for culture similarities then i dont see that it would be
ethical on making out some generalization overall and its true that not all is supportive on what their leader is been doing.They have just been caught
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March 18, 2022, 03:10:46 AM
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I guess it depends on the platform again they are still businesses that would like to run and it's not their mistake that their government and president declares a war they just working and all inspecting and decisions happen. Well if the collective boycott will introduce by scam gambling platforms ill do support it I guess. They commit a ware even though it has a covid its not good for the people of both each country they letting the people more suffering with the crisis.
^ You are definitely right, why would we let innocent businessmen suffer because they are the same culture that cause a war by their dictatorship leader.
I would also support it if Putin has a gambling casino and run on its own. But that is innocent people who trap in the middle of the war. However, if that is a scam casino, on the other hand, they should not even be here and I will support the boycott too. I don't know why the forum still allows this very well know scam casino even though their manager and participants got the negative tag.

People getting suffer without doing anything they are just waiting to live their life and sustain those needs and the war came destroy and makes additional damage to their property and financially if the casino is made by Putin itself i will support the boycott as well, there's a lot of life disturb and get back to zero because of this war, there's no time scamming platform must required a red tag immediately to become aware other members.

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March 18, 2022, 04:57:47 AM
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why would we let innocent businessmen suffer because they are the same culture that cause a war by their dictatorship leader.
I would also support it if Putin has a gambling casino and run on its own. But that is innocent people who trap in the middle of the war. However, if that is a scam casino, on the other hand, they should not even be here and I will support the boycott too. I don't know why the forum still allows this very well know scam casino even though their manager and participants got the negative tag.
Putin has plans to deal with all those companies which have banned their operations due to war. Although Russia seems to be standing alone now. But I don't believe in real case scanioro it is happening. Politics is a dirty game. they some one thing to the world and do another thing.
In the end of the day? this is all about Power and Money so how would this be needed to take place all around the forum?

if we wanted to Not play and participate in this then let it be  , and let others that wanted to play in those site do their things.

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March 19, 2022, 08:17:04 PM
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I guess it depends on the platform again they are still businesses that would like to run and it's not their mistake that their government and president declares a war they just working and all inspecting and decisions happen. Well if the collective boycott will introduce by scam gambling platforms ill do support it I guess. They commit a ware even though it has a covid its not good for the people of both each country they letting the people more suffering with the crisis.
^ You are definitely right, why would we let innocent businessmen suffer because they are the same culture that cause a war by their dictatorship leader.
I would also support it if Putin has a gambling casino and run on its own. But that is innocent people who trap in the middle of the war. However, if that is a scam casino, on the other hand, they should not even be here and I will support the boycott too. I don't know why the forum still allows this very well know scam casino even though their manager and participants got the negative tag.
In our country - almost everyone is in trouble after Corona, businesses are facing down fall. We are all still battling post corona aftereffect. I wonder what made Putin to jump into another war? We are in very dangerous time. People are saving up money and cutting down expenses to make their ends meet. I am not sure how are Russians dealing with all this stress?
They know what they are doing for sure, but them deciding to cut the internet, probably they don't want to see the world struggle economically.  It's not only them who are affected by this war anyway, even our country is affected because of the oil price hike from time to time, and when the oil is high everything will follow.

Other countries may not be affected by the war directly but economically, it's a big burden especially to the average people.

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